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Hello. Welcome to another CHBMP space. Please give us a few minutes to get situated, and we'll get started. Hello. Welcome to another CHBMP space. Please give us a few minutes to get situated, and we'll get started. Hi, Miriam. How are you doing? I'm okay. How are you doing, Chelsea? Good. Can you hear me? I sure can. Excellent. I was, my dinner started late tonight, so I'm trying to I'm grabbing a bite in between talking. Well, that takes your time. I'll probably give everyone a few minutes to join us. Well, my my 92 pounder puppy was hungry too, but unlike me, he actually inhales his food. I don't think he actually breathes as he eats. Yes. I I had a Boston terrier that would just inhale his feet, so I I get that. Yep. I don't think he'll I really think he does actually inhale it because it takes him probably maybe 2 minutes at the most, and it's a huge bowl of food. So because you're a big boy, aren't you? Yep. At least this time, you guys aren't gonna have to hear him heavy breathing because he he can't can't get in my lap right now while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's been a very kind of crazy few days and week, I'm sure, for everyone. We I am, in Kentucky, and, I saw a headline I thought I would never see. So I thought I'd share that with you guys. In any other time in history, I probably would have thought it was the weirdest thing ever, but because things things are so crazy now, it was weird, but, I still I still didn't expect to see it. We have a hospital here in, Richmond, Kentucky that is part of the Baptist Health Systems that we have here. And, I came across a headline that said they named the patient's name. They named, different team members at the hospital, and they said that a gentleman actually woke up when they were getting ready to harvest his organs. And and, you know, that probably isn't that's probably happened before. But what hadn't happened before is the team was actually part well, part of the team was like, no. We can't continue. And the other part of the team was, oh, yeah. We're gonna. So they actually several members actually refused to proceed. The organ coordinator actually called her boss, and he was like, oh, no. We have to continue. And the way it was described was the man was actually thrashing, crying. So it wasn't like it was even questionable. But, literally, part of the team was was was advocating to continue, and the other part was like, we quit. So, yeah, of course, I, posted it to Facebook, and Facebook said, oh, our fact checkers have checked this, and it may not be true. So let's just shut it down. Right? Well, of course, it's true. They named the patient's name. So I don't know of any, news outlet that's gonna name a person's name unless they've done some research. So, anyway, I was like, isn't that typical of the time that we're living in? Not only do we have our protocols to kill people and the jabs to kill people, but now we just feel that we are able to continue when someone is obviously not dead. So, craziness. How are you tonight, Mick? I'm super, super good, but, you know, it made me wonder to myself, you know, where what what what were they harvesting? Because, you know, that's unfortunately big money. Right? That is the most disgusting, egregious. I I can't tell you how, I mean, you know, but how evil and vile that is. But, wow. Wow. But, I'm doing super, super fabulous. Just, getting things done has been a very, very busy day and a very productive week. And, so I wanna I wanna wait a little bit and then tell everybody because I don't think I I spoke to you guys, since after the, yeah. No. Because this was last Saturday. So, then on Sunday, we had a little meeting with JJ, so I wanna kinda give everybody an update. Anyhow, that was long winded, wasn't it? Not not at all, really. In the middle of all of this, I am actually multitasking, you know, because, you know, sometimes you have to do domestic duties. Right? Like, cleaning the kitchen or cleaning the cat box. Let's just, I'm just gonna go there. So, anyhow, we had a great Xspace last night. Ed Tarpley came on. He talked about, the hospital protocols and how excited he was, about the fact that, the, the the SCOTUS said that, you know, they they cannot what was it? They can't, was it, why am I losing my words? Why am I losing my brain? I hit another brain. In a in a few states, they can't be accepting counting ballots after election day, I believe it was. Thank you. I had it in my brain, and then my brain just suddenly went to trash. I'm like, oh god. That was so neat though how he came on to give us an update about this case and then came back on again when he got that good news to let us know. We were, like, the first people to know that had happened. Thanks to Ed Tarpley. I know. I he's so fabulous. And I think it is incredible all of the stuff that he is doing right now. You know? I mean, just just with what he's doing on making sure that he's connecting all of the dots for election integrity and that connection between election integrity and the hospital protocol, you know, casualties is what I'm calling them. Him and him and Brad Guy are make a pretty damn good team. Absolutely. Don't they, though? I love it when they team up on stuff. They are formidable. And they turn away together. I sent something to Brad today because I don't know if anybody else saw it, but there's a poll worker in, I believe it's Idaho. Mhmm. I'll have to find the article who got on x. It actually was describing the fact that there is no there's no way to confirm whether or not, illegals are voting, which is actually sadly true in many states now because, they're giving them, I ID cards, driver's licenses that look exactly like citizen's driver's licenses, which, yeah. So I'll put that in the purple pill. So, she was saying that, you know, we can challenge them, and I'm gonna be a poll worker this time. But what they get, once you do that, is they get a provisional ballot, and then the ballot, that ballot gets put on the outside of the envelope of the actual ballot that they were going to receive. Mhmm. And then that all goes to some unnamed person who comes and picks up all of the ballots. She doesn't the poll worker doesn't even know what the process is because she doesn't know who it goes to and how they determine if in fact that the person will be able to process the provisional ballot. So, anyway, sounds like a not very secure process. Mhmm. And so I will put that article in the purple pill. Well, I'll even go 1 further. What about what's happening in, Virginia where you've got your own government coming back and saying, uh-uh. You've gotta put all these, you know, people who you took off the role who were noncitizens Yeah. You gotta put it all on the back. Back on. Mhmm. Yeah. Correct. Is that not the most egregious thing in the whole wide world? And you can't. Even if you're here, you can't vote until you're a citizen. Right. Right. Ugh. But, you know, it's like Miriam said, you know, you have a driver's license. And even in Oklahoma, you've gotta fight that. Well, we've actually got a, person that was hired by the or appointed, excuse me, by the governor. And, she's over, like, I don't know, it's like, parts of transportation kind of stuff. And so, basically, what she's done is she is just making it working with the Mexican consulate and making it easier to just say, okay. Here you go. We're gonna get you all taken care of, and and I I guess they're giving them what do they call them? Those TPSs or whatever the work permits. I don't know what they're what all they're doing with it, but it, it definitely is making it, making the process much easier to just give them the pathway to citizenship and get that all taken care of for them. I mean And get them all set up on all all of the government taxpayer benefits. Go ahead. I'm sorry. In Texas and in many states or some states, a noncitizen with a driver's license, the driver's license actually indicates that they're a noncitizen. Right? So, I don't I don't know why all states aren't doing that. Well, because in our state, we tried to do that too. The problem was is that it doesn't transfer. So they'll get their driver's license in Oklahoma, and it has the little red because they're not interconnected. Mhmm. They're they will have their little indication, and then they'll go to some town in in Michigan or Chicago or wherever, and they're not gonna transfer that over. So then they get a real driver's license from that state, and that's where the fun begins. Yeah. That's that's a problem. That's why if it if it was everywhere across The United States that it that a driver's license had to indicate Oh, you're saying, like, legislation. Yeah. Whether Yeah. That person was a citizen, a noncitizen, or a citizen Yeah. That's you know, that would be the ideal thing. Because, like, in and I don't know about like, in Texas, you can't vote with an out of state license. Right. It has to be a it has to be identification from this state. Yeah. Right. And the thing of it is is that you actually probably would need that anyway because even if you're having to show your ID, if you're getting a driver's license and you have the little check mark or whatever and they go to the next state and that doesn't happen, then you've defeated the of of needing and requiring an ID to vote. Support list. And the registration process, you can't tell me that they can't use everify or something like that or something to verify that that person is a I mean, is a citizen or not a citizen. Yeah. And when you get your driver's license, you should not be allowed you should not be registered to vote. I don't even know how noncitizens get registered to vote or dead people are still registered to vote. When somebody dies, the funeral home immediately, you know, they they do all the paperwork to notify Social Security to cancel you know, to flag the Social Security card. Bank accounts will be closed with that Social Security card. The social if they're getting Social Security, it'll stop. Right? Like, there's all these things that happen that are triggered by death. Why couldn't they add also notifying the, you know, notifying that the person needs to be taken off the elect the the voter rolls? Right. Exactly. Was it just an, was it just an oversight, or is that intentional? I'm just saying. Yeah. I mean right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I think it's 1 of those oops, you know, kind of things that they like to do. There's so many there's so many easy solutions and common sense solutions, but neither party wants to do it because during the during the, primaries, both sides cheat. Yeah. Yeah. Well yeah. Absolutely. And and I mean, 1 1 more than the other. Yeah. I mean Nobody has clean hands in that. Right. No. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, just just look at the way that the that the system is. It's you know, anybody who wants to cheat is gonna be able to cheat. There's so many little loopholes. At least 1 side seems to put on the pretense of a primary, you know, like giving voters the opportunity to pretend to to support a candidate. Whereas 1 just openly stages sham primaries and actually argued in court that Yeah. It's their right to pick a a candidate in a smoke filled back backroom if they want to. Like, they don't have to honor the vote, and they they don't have Yeah. That's why they've always had the super delegates. Right? Yeah. Yep. Wow. Yep. Oh. It'll Bernie Sanders. He's been screwed over most of his life, but it's kind of apropos since he's also a socialist. I mean, look down to, Old Town Media, if you think Bernie Sanders is above the board. He most of his donations went to this group called Old Town Media, which, happens to be partnered with his his wife. So, bit of a conflict of interest there. And they traced this company to, like, some house. It's not even, like, a business address. It's a house. Didn't he also get kicked out of a commune 1 time for not working hard enough? That's hilarious if you really haven't heard that. That is hilarious if it's true. That would be hilarious. Good lord. That's crazy. That's amazing. So, yeah, I, just I'm just gonna I'm just gonna dip I'm gonna dip right into a a politics. Did anybody see the clips of where, comma comma comma comma comma chameleon, come alive, come Kamala was down in Texas. Did we talk about this? Oh my gosh. And she was booed. Yes. And she lost, like, total control. She lost, like, total control of that. And I and somebody was saying that, they were trying to say, well, the crowd got really upset because of the fact that, Beyonce was supposed to perform, and Beyonce didn't perform. Why? Just And she got $10,000,000 for standing there and giving, like, 5 minutes speech. Yeah. Yeah. Right? It was for the endorsement. She was doing it for the endorsement. Yeah. And they thought they were gonna get a concert, so people were pissed. Yeah. That's what I heard. But, you know, I'm like, that's that's interesting. And then there was a whole uproar in the back section too. So I don't know. I there was 1 that I was trying to see if I could refind where it showed, like, the beginning, it looked like somebody was coming over the rail or something like that. But, you know, you know how those things go. So Crazy. Did you see Lizzo? They she got $22,000,000 to appear. I think it was in Michigan or something at a rally, and she she said if come if Kamala wins, the whole country will be like Detroit. Yes. Yes. I was like, you don't have you don't have to convince us not to vote for Kamala. Right? Like Right. Right. Like, okay. Here is it. You know, here's the picture of, you know, where you're like, you're in don't don't have any more endorsements because then Bill Clinton came out and was telling people, look. If they had vetted the people at the border, Lake and Riley wouldn't have died. You know? And I'm like, Yeah. That's right. That was on Kamala. That was that was your girl. You know? So crazy. Yeah. That's when you say no more endorsements. So I I don't know. I guess she's speaking at the ellipse, though. You know? Wonder wonder what she's gonna focus on. I'm just guessing. I love I love the meme with, Bill Bill and Hillary Clinton where Bill's saying she doesn't know it yet, but I'm voting for Trump. Yeah. Yeah. I love the 1 of Bill Clinton saying that, Carrie Lake is very physically attractive but has some wacky ideas. Like, what? And then you saw Hillary come out this week and say that, Trump is, staging, because he's speaking at Madison Square Garden, that he's reenacting some white supremacist trope for, like, decades ago. Like, really? He's just he's just Really? It doesn't mean anything. Yeah. Literally Hitler. Literally Hitler. Yeah. Literally now. Hitler reincarnated. That's their line. And then they're like then we had Jennifer Rubin, like, why aren't the mainstream media outlets running with this Hitler reincarnated story? This is their family. How about because it's not true, you, you know, crazy dim witted propagandist dress window dresser who sees your, candidate crashing into the sea because the girl can't even talk. And when she does, she's totally and completely unrelatable. And she doesn't it's so messed up. He probably wouldn't even be this. Well, he was still he would still be popular, but everything that they come out and say, you know, they make him even more popular. Yeah. Right? Like, everything he becomes more and more and more popular. Yeah. So I don't really even know. And, you know, I I see that phenomenon just continuing and continuing. And I just look at it, and I think, how what special kind of stupid do you have to be to keep doing it and see his call numbers going up and up? And I I I just I don't understand what their thought process is. Can I just say I was stupid? I was at the Trump rally Wednesday, and I have there was so much energy in that place. It was amazing. It was awesome. Oh, wow. It looked like it was totally and completely live. I mean, Charlie Kirk was there, Tulsi Gabbard Yes. Robert Kennedy junior. I mean, they Marjorie Taylor Green. Yes. There was so many people there. It was amazing. I live about 2 and a half hours from there, and I was off that day. So I saw the lineup, and I'm like, why not? It's like a once 1 time thing right, but I tell you it was right up there with I mean the only other amazing thing that I can happen to think of that was better than that is giving birth to my children. It was it was unreal. Wow. It was amazing. And just like, you know, everybody got along. Everybody was talking. It was like you were a long lost family. Nobody was arguing. You know, there was a plane flying around that said he's gonna lose, overhead as we're waiting to get inside the rally and I was like, yeah. That's why you're you're still using that plane right right I was. I was like you know it was there's somebody from our group that came after work and they waited in line for like 3 and a half hours and didn't get in, which I felt really bad, but it was it was packed. Wow. So you know that's interesting that somebody would spend the money to fly a plane overhead or or whatever. You know? I mean, how and then but today, did you see today in Pennsylvania, supposedly, they had the militia members out there. You know? They had the pro Palestinian, Antifa, BLM, cover your faces because, you know, we we are unable to show our faces because we're, a bunch of thugs and, paid Or FBI. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, I love where your mind's at. Yes. Absolutely. That is so true. It's like, who would be surprised if it wasn't? You know? Right. Just to get somebody to to get a little out of line so that then they could, you know, go and say, well, you know, the DOD does have the ability, you know, to use lethal force against Americans. I'm just I'm going there. I'm going there because I'm RFA told that at the rally. Like, I think they found that out maybe. I mean, I don't know when he found it out. I think it happened a couple weeks ago. But he told that, you know, at the rally, and everybody was, you know, booing or whatever. And it was it was just amazing. It it really was. Yeah. I don't think, you know, the the normal America loving people of this country of any stripe are going to even tolerate the thought of the military taking that action. My husband was an art veteran, and that was the 1 thing that he always said when anybody would say, well, you know, the military could take over. He was like, absolutely not. It's illegal. You know? The the Right. There's an agency needed act that they cannot do that. Well, ultimately now, the DOD has written its own directive to say that it can. Yeah. That's the scary part. Right. Yeah. That's the scary part. Desperate. Like, it's so obvious that they're just so desperate, and they're just grasping at whatever they can. You know? And and it it's I mean, I I wish I could say that the police and the military were honorables like they were in my husband's day. Right. But, they've gutted it. They've they've, you know, they've they've worked hard to destroy what our military once was. I will do this, though, Gail. I was at an event about 3 months ago speaking about, you know, medical freedom and that kind of thing. Mhmm. And had a person in the audience who had been pushed out of the military because of the jab mandate. Mhmm. A young man. And he said he said, ma'am ma'am, I I wanna I want to say something. I said, sure. He said, I want you to know, I wanna reassure you and anyone else listening that there's plenty of us out here that were pushed out of the military, and there's plenty of vets from previous generations that we will not tolerate any kind of action against the civilian population. So it really warmed my heart because this this guy was Mhmm. He was probably late twenties. I mean, he was a very young man, and I just it it really warmed my heart to hear that. So that I mean, I think that's I think that's true, and I don't know how many, states have state run, militias that are, you know, like, we've got a bunch of judges and everything that sit on ours at Texas State Guard, is Texas. And I don't know how many states have that have something like that. I know Texas does. So y'all in other states, if tyranny happens, you might wanna come to Texas. No. I've done it for now. Yeah. I I know we have them in Kentucky, and, I live very near Fort Knox, and there's plenty of, you know, military loosely formulated organizations, military related that, you know, they just they wouldn't tolerate anything tolerate anything locally. Like, if if if the if the local civilian police force decided to because that's what 5240.0one, the directive from DOD says, that if the police need a request that they can pull in the active duty military to quell a civilian unrest. Well, I can tell I can tell you that won't happen in my area because the the the, the retired or the actual kicked out or the other local loosely formed organizations will not tolerate local police doing that, trying to pull in the active duty military. It will not happen. And I I would say that, probably same thing is true in Texas. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with many other states. So Well, I just can't imagine. And Jim was even saying this yesterday when we were talking about this. The same thing that you guys are saying that no no self respecting military member is going to fire back my my endless oh, sorry. Enlisted. I'm being corrected. But no enlisted, member would do that. But, you know, my my concern is what have they done to the military? They've really made that military woke, and they they have indoctrinated them with some not quite, patriotic and and Right. America First, you know. But, you know, I'm not saying be fearful of them, but I agree. We need to be connected with those people who are following the constitution, constitutional sheriffs, and and and those people like, you know, tactical civics or other organizations like that. I mean, our our military, unfortunately, would attack its citizens, what they have left. I mean, you saw what they did to other military members when they wouldn't supreme the shots. Right? And it's I see it as a parallel to what was done in the hospitals. Yeah. What they did was they drove the ethical, actual, real people who care about the patients out, and they did the same thing in the military. They drove out the patriotic senior officers who were so close to retiring. So now what you have is the people the brass at the very top who are uber liberal woke, and then you have the people at the bottom who weren't senior in the system. And, therefore, they they took the shots, stayed in, and the people they put the other people out who were very senior. And it's really sad because I followed a a group, that they call themselves military vacations because they didn't wanna use vaccinations because they figured they'd put it down. And, you wouldn't believe the number of people in that group and the atrocities that were done against the because the military's the spouses, the dependents were the most were the most outspoken people on that group because they could, because they weren't in uniform. They weren't in uniform, and they were able to tell what was happening. And it was absolutely egregious. I was following that back in 2021 and 2022. It was absolutely egregious. Wow. Well, look at what we know that they did through the remdesivir papers. You know? Not not just, you know, the fact that they were using it prior to the EUA, you know, the DOD of which we know had control had control over that. We know that they didn't give just, you know, like, he in the military, they didn't give him any informed consent. They didn't know about the death. They didn't know about the kidney failure. So that just sort of rolled on downhill. Right? Just steamrolled things in. Yep. Yeah. So, I mean, if they're willing to do that 200. Willing to kill 64 percent of the, you know, their military service members who were on a clinical trial, and they're willing to see that out to the end, god help us. Correct. Yeah. There there is no there's It's gotta be cleared out. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. The there's a lot of of actual just crazy in the in the narrative, in the agenda. And it's, you know, it's we like to think that it's just on the civilian side and just from the the the globalist billionaires, but, no, it's on the military side and in the you know, not just in the government, civilian government side. It's in the military branch side too, and that is very, very, very concerning. Yeah. Yep. It is. It's extremely concerning. You know? I am grateful though that, you know, we've got, you know, some good some good movement going on. Let's see. I think everybody is it okay if I if I tell about this, give an update? Is that okay? Go for it. Go for it. Okay. So, let's see. So last week last week when we tuned in, we heard that the study happened, and Gail was there, and Lisa was there. And, let's see. Jerome was there. Huckleberry, I mean, we had people coming in. You know, we got at least so far, I've I've encountered 7 who actually came to the event whose loved 1 died, of the hospital COVID protocols. And there's more. They were connecting with other people, and so that is kind of expanding right now. We please pray as we are finding more and more people. Of course, we know that, you know, the rural areas. Right? Those were hard hit or at least that's what I'm finding here. Maybe Oklahoma has more rural areas. I don't know. But well, I know it does, but you know what I'm saying. Maybe that's the reason why. But, we did Rachel Rodriguez and I went on JJ's podcast that he does once a week called Elephant in the Room. And, what we did is we talked a lot about excuse me, we talked a lot about, he's got a, a probable cause paper that he's got going on that he had already had that he was working on from, like, another case or 2. So he was already aware, but he had no idea of the extent and even said it himself. He had no idea how how large this was and how much it stretched across the nation. So now we're going to be able and he said this on his show on Sunday. He said that what he wants to do is take that, take what he's got, hand it over to Rachel, Let her put together the burp the brief for criminal investigation and prosecution and, you know, get get the ball rolling with all of the evidence, from not just the study, from the information, which was fabulous, what doctor Martin and Wyndham Mendenhall and all that was, like, hitting home and really solidly hitting home. But the, you know, but the, you know, troves of people that we're finding as we're as, you know, people are saying, yeah. I I my loved 1, my husband died. And you know what? There were 3 other people. You know? And let me connect you with those 3 other people. And and I think that's how we're going to get the investigations open. They are going to, it'll be, it'll be, prosecution. I think, they'll be Fauci, Daszak, Barrack, hospital administrators. You know, they'll they'll be a whole whole list. I think Rochelle Walensky is in there anyhow. You know, not to speak too much to that, but, but basically handed to the AG. And the the, great thing about it was is the other day, lieutenant governor Matt Pinnell was on a a podcast, and he said that he had heard about what was going on in the study. And he was very concerned about the hospital protocols. And Wendy, 1 of the people from our group, actually kinda had asked them some questions and had had, you know, brought it up, and he said he was very much against all the mandates and the lockdowns and all of that. Well, he's running for governor. Wants to run for governor. Right? He's the lieutenant governor, so it makes sense. Anyhow, I I think it's extremely, exciting because he says he's gonna go and look at that information and, is I I feel really good about it. I also feel really at peace about it. I feel like god's hand is upon this. You know, he's he's let us get to this point. He is guiding us through this, and I I think, the goal I know the goal is to get criminal investigation prosecutions open and go after Fauci and the gang. And we're gonna go after him, you know, hopefully being able to go against them with RICO charges. I think it's I I think God is good, and I'm praising him for all of this. Oh, Mick, that is so wonderful. The the, update is just a wonderful thing. And, I I just feel like the tide is turning because I'm sure that many other people in here also know that Bill Gates is actually, set up to be defeated in The Netherlands. He has to go to court as well as, Albert Bourla, the Dutch government, and Mark I'm not sure how to say that. It's r u t t e, Mark Rutte. He, I believe, was or is the prime prime minister. I'm not sure what the title is, but he's the head of government there in The Netherlands. So, seeing great signs of some definite pressure coming to bear on the tyrants and the villains who have done this to us all. So I'm very excited about what we're seeing. Yeah. I am too. And, in case you guys, didn't hear about it, I, I see that, Ronald's on, and yesterday, we kinda talked about this a little bit, but I think it's really great news for the for the vaccine. We've got at least a a crack, in the in the door, and we gotta get the word out about it. That in Southwest, Idaho, they had a vote 4 to 3 for their their health board, to in the southwest health, clinics and practices. They're, taking their COVID 19 injections off of the shelf. So, that is fabulous news. And if we've got 1 there, then I think we can go to our health boards and our county commissioners and and start making some, some noise there as well. And, yes, on that note, mentioning Ronald because I know he has a connection with, Julie. I did see a video today on x where Julie, just basically laid it all out for a gentleman named West who is a nurse there who's still pushing the COVID shots in Butte County. So, it was very interesting to watch the interaction because, he you could see that he was hesitant to even attempt to be very, pushy about the shots, and you could see that he was only engaging in name only. Very interesting video. I will try to find that. So I think a lot of the the, local health, officials who have been very, very, very pushy and very, very pronarrative are starting to see the handwriting on the wall. And they should. They absolutely should because, you know, we no longer can sit back anymore. We no longer can be those people that say, well, because we were told, no. That's that time that ship has sailed. It's time for us to to all dig in, get our research done, ensure that what we're listening to is is is good information. Those people who have been talking out, including everybody here from the former feds, The information that they're putting out is correct. Those are the people. Those those are the people. The ones who have been banned and censored. Good good heavens. You know? Why would you ban and censor somebody unless you wanna just shut them up because they're saying the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Right? Absolutely. Yep. And the thing is, I like what John Baldwin often says. There many of them now are are actually in the state of knowing mens rea. They actually know that it is a crime now. They know. And if they continue down this path, they are absolutely culpable. And and, that was, 1 of the points. I don't think Julie made it exactly that way, but she made the point. So, I'm loving to I I I love to see that because we do have to put these people on notice. You know, and if you continue, you can't claim ignorance anymore. Amen. Amen. That's exactly it. You cannot say I didn't know when you've got a piece of documentation sitting right there. And I think that's why the this the, the study was so important because, and, I know Rachel has pointed this out before, and I think it's incredibly true that now is in as part of the Oklahoma State congressional record. You can't deny that. You know? It's there, and and they can't just take it down and get rid of it. You know? I mean, I I you know what I'm saying? I mean and and it's out there because we've taken we've spliced it down. We've put it out. It's gotten shared. And so you know? Yeah. And if you share it from their site, they will see how many hits their site gets. Right? That's the beauty of speak even when you speak at when you speak at a city council meeting or a school board meeting or whatever. It's always there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just getting it on the record where it's incontrovertible, the it's gonna reach critical mass to where they're going to that those that remain on the opposite side, that is absolute proof that they know and they are studiously adhering to what they know to be wrong, illegal, and evil. And, that's the whole point of putting it in their face so that there's absolute proof that they know exactly what they're continuing to do. Right on. Right on. You know? And we need more of that. I think that's the 1 thing that, you know, people need to hear about giving their testimonies is the fact that, you know, those those voices when you get that voice out there, you can't deny. You can try and you can try and gaslight all you want. You can try and and be fake about it all you want. But when somebody tells you that they actually weren't allowed to be with their loved 1 when they were dying and nobody called, they didn't know until afterward. And then somebody called up and said, I'm sorry your husband or your wife is dead. That I I I dare you to argue with that, that that is not crimes against humanity intentionally causing pain when pain didn't have to come. Yeah. I think that's what Brad is always saying, the stories of the victims. Your your personal accounts are unimpeachable because nobody can deny your personal experience with those things. And that's why it's so important to get all those stories on the record. Yes. And I did find the video, of Julie catching, Wes at the local health department there in Butte County. So if anybody wants to take a look at it, it's in the purple pill. I love her technique and how she did it. She wasn't trying to change his mind. She was simply laying out the information straight in front of his face. So, you know, he can never say, I didn't know. He absolutely does know. So take a look at that. It's a great model to to work by if if you go out into your own community and want to lay the facts out in front of them so that they are in a state of mens rea, meaning they legally know what they're doing and choosing to continue. Yeah. Yep. And I pinned that video to the nest, so it it is really impressive. Like, I love watching Julie do what she does. She's so, you know, calm and professional, but also steadfast and resolute and knows exactly what she's talking about. And the way she laid it all out for this guy was just a beautiful thing to watch. And he was you know, he's not getting paid a whole lot to do this job. You know? He he doesn't get paid to take a a to educate people about and he's like, oh, of course, we we send people we give people the various information. And she's like, oh, yeah? And, it's just there's 2 clips in that in the the tweet that's pinned, and they're both really worth watching because Julie is just she's, she is a tiger for these causes, and she's kicking butt out there. Thank you, Julie. She's fearless, isn't she? I love it. That's the word I was looking for. Yep. She is absolutely fearless. And that is something that I want to encourage everyone in. You know, we we all have, you know, had terrible losses and pain, but turn that into turn that energy into, I'm going to take that and be fearless about it and get the truth out there straight in front of these people's faces. You don't have to change their mind, but you have to make them aware, that you are aware. They know what they're doing. They don't think anybody else knows. And if we show them that we know, they're not stupid, they know they'll see the handwriting on the wall, and and you're gonna see a bunch of rats deserting the ship. Some of them may do it a bit too late to get leniency and other things, but that's our goal. Put enough pressure on them where a bunch of them desert the ship and where, hopefully, earlier, a bunch of whistleblowers actually help us. That's that's the whole point of the pressure campaign and putting the truth straight in front of them. You're not changing their mind. You're letting them see reality, the handwriting on the wall that they're gonna have to choose and choose soon. Speaking of, some of you might remember, Harry Fisher was recently on our space and complaining that they were putting him in a corner where he was gonna be forced to Yeah. In you know, forced to provide the shots or seek another job. And he he posted some really good news, last night that I also just pinned in the nest to the effect that he doesn't have to get the shots. And he can give people proper informed consent before other people that he's working with do provide the shots while he's there. So, I mean, that's just the kind of thing. We put the the pressure on. They've got this great paramedic. They don't wanna lose him because they need him, but he put pressure on them. I'm not gonna give these shots, and he eventually prevailed. So now he doesn't have to give the shots, and he can continue to do his job. So that's just the kind of, you know, these small victories add up to to a huge impact that we're making, I think. Yeah. And he may very well save some lives because he's going to give he's going to give real informed consent. And at this point, if you're so programmed that real informed consent doesn't stop you from taking it, then you are truly consenting, and there's nothing that Harry can do for those people. But there may be some that come in there that literally are questioning, and it's wonderful that he was able to hold his ground and be there as a resource for people. Absolutely. There's a lot of people who you know, if you're not dialed in, you're not reading the news on x, you're maybe you're just on Facebook and watching CNN, you might actually not have a single clue that any of this is going on. So, being blessed with a a paramedic or a health care provider like Harry Fisher who's gonna tell you the truth and give you informed consent might make all the difference between whether you inject yourself with that poison or don't or or get that stuff for your children or don't. So it's it's really great to see that people are standing up, standing firm, and resolute in what they believe and and making inroads towards reality with people who have no comprehension of it. So good good for Harry. And restoring that patient relationship. I know we talk about the patient physician relationship, but what about those people who are doing things like Harry or other providers? You know, COVID COVID took that down. We have to get back and and look at the system, how the system was really turned and geared against us. You know, patient rights, informed consent, bodily autonomy, the the patient physician, patient health care provider relationship. That was totally torn down intentionally. And I don't know. Maybe we could get, you know, enough legislation, but I think we really need to take a hard serious look at at a lot of the industry itself overall. Right? That's gonna take a lot of digging. It's gonna take a lot of us, and it's gonna take some leaders to have some, you know, and and and stand up and and and, you know, do be a hairy. Be hairy. You know? Right. Be willing to lose your position. Be willing to take that principled stand and risk losing your position kind of like Ronald did when he stood up to, to his employers about the the same thing, the the toxic shots. Ronald, you wanna tell us a little bit about how that was for you and and how you were able to make a difference by refusing to, to comply and capitulate with that? Yes. Good evening, everybody. I was, wearing raring to jump in. I was preparing my dad's, meal. So I was listening, but I was also, busy as well. Thank you for asking the question. 1 of the reasons and before I answer it, 1 of the reasons why I wanted to jump in was to encourage all of us to get involved with our local government regarding this vaccine issue because, like, it was noted earlier what happened in Idaho was that the local government. I believe that's the first time a local department and in their their they call themselves a, Southwestern District, made such a historic decision. It's not gonna be the last. The momentum is building. And once all of these local governments start making that decision, it's going to have a domino effect. So, anyway and, insofar as you guys, talking about Judy Threed and others, I am just amazed at the temperance, the professionalism of those whose moms and dads were killed by COVID 19 vaccine or by the hospital protocols. Because someone had done that to my mom, I probably would be in prison right now, because, you know, there's a bond that, a son has toward his mom or a daughter has toward her mom or or her dad or either parent. And I'm just I'm just, I'm impressed, with how people like Julie and others have conducted themselves. I'm I'm reminded of this other gentleman in Canada, Michael Jackson. He's already served time, for taking a stand against against the system because they wanted to vaccinate his his his daughter. So but those kind of peaceful, professional, calm, how to conduct ourselves, it's it's going to that's how it's going to going to succeed. I'm answering your question for those who don't know my story. I was a public information officer at the California Department of Public Health for more than 14 years, and I came across what Javier Becerra said on 04/14/2022. He's talking about the COVID 19 vaccines, and he said that we know these vaccines are killing people of color, black, Latino, indigenous people at about 2 times the rate of white Americans. I brought this information plus supporting data from the vaccine adverse event reporting system to my management on in April of 20 22 and October of 20 22, things came to a climax on 08/22/2023, where I tried to articulate that Pacerra quote, doing a staff meeting that probably with 12 people on the call. And, basically, they they muzzled me, And I had the choice of staying muzzled by management or but I didn't wanna muzzle myself. So I took a, I took a, 50% 55% pay cut, which is the difference between my monthly salary and my my my pension. But I felt like this information needed to be shared with Californians so they could make informed decisions. And so I I basically have come out. I wrote a book about it called Nuzzled Truth, and I've been speaking before small groups, between January and May. And in May, I started attending, again, getting involved with local government with the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors, and I shared all this information with them for about about 3 or 4 times. And I didn't know during this time that God was using this ins the these these appearances to hone in the message that I would eventually take to the 57 other county boards of supervisors throughout California because I wrote a 5 page memo with 2 pages of attachments of sources. And, essentially, I just basically, wrote this memo, sent it out on July 29, and, included all the information about what Pacera said about various data, about other kind of information that they needed to know about so they can make those decisions. Well, hopefully, make the right decision, but thus far, they have not. Nevertheless, I'm I'm I I follow-up by sending out all that written documentation by making in person appearances, and I think I've appeared to 10 or 11 counties out of 58. And it looks like I'll be going to every county here in California, every Tuesday because that's when the board of supervisors meet. And in essence, what I have done is I have provided them with documentation. And from July 29 to the present, if someone in their county who takes the vaccine or is injured by the booster or 1 of their loved 1 dies because of the vaccine or booster, and I'm specifically talking about COVID 19 vaccine, then their attorney can see that there is legal documentation, that they were apprised, but they failed to act. I am providing written documentation for someone to move forward. I may not see any results of what I've done, but I'm planting seeds. I don't know who's watching, live or who may be watching on a replay. I don't know who might be sitting at a local health department in 1 of these counties who might come out as a whistleblower as well. Sometimes we just don't know what what our our outcome will be. God's not gonna judge me about that. Is he's gonna judge me about about obedience, and and and and that's what I've been doing, being obedient to god. The last thing I wanna share with you, and I appreciate the time, is that there's is a template on my website. My website is muzzledtruth.com, where that 5 page memo, I I I tailored it for anybody here in The United States to send to their local public official on my behalf about sharing about the dangers of this COVID 19. I'm just gonna say poison. It it and it it's really is poison. We shouldn't be calling it the vaccine. But I'm calling it a vaccine. I've called it a vaccine. I will continue to do so because that's the lexicon that is used and is being used at the California Department of Public Health. And I have to stick and stay in my lane, stick with the script. And so but, yes, you can forward that template to your local official. Print it out, write in the official's name, indicate the date. And, again, that's documentation where they could, in essence, be apprised of what I've done. Okay. So that's hopefully, I have answered your question. Thank you, Ronald. I think Sherry Martin had some things she wanted to add, and I also wanted to point people to your recent interview with up in the nest. Go ahead, Sherry. Can you guys hear me okay? Yep. Yes. Uh-huh. Cool. I got a I got a I'm testing out a new mic. Sorry. I wanted to verify. Mister Owens, I so much enjoy listening to you speak coming on these spaces now. It's been really a pleasure learning and, you know, getting to know you. You you started your discussion by pointing out that you were kinda surprised at how, restrained the people of loss have been because no 1 has. And I you didn't say it this way, but I'm gonna put it this way, that no 1 has actually gone postal on a hospital or a doctor yet. Mhmm. I'd like to point out that the majority of the victims were men, and that may or may not have been on purpose. But if my if I had been the victim, my husband would be famous now. Because I had I had to have conversations with both of my sons about it's not worth it for me to lose 1 of you if go deal with it the way you think you should. Mhmm. So I think I just wanted to put that out there. It's we don't know specifically how they targeted the men. Oh, dear. So plus, the family members, they were fed so many, you know, you're they they were conditioned over time. We're doing everything we can. They're a very sick man, a very sick woman. You're you know, whoever it is, your husband, your son, your daughter, they're very sick, very, very sick, and they heard that day in and day out. Most of the people that came forward with their stories of hospital protocol did not realize that their loved 1 was killed until I mean, they legitimately, many of them thought it was COVID. Mhmm. And and they just sort of felt like something was wrong. Like, they had like, things just didn't add up, and then they got their medical records, and then they saw things that, you know, they connected or they found us. There's still a lot of people that are sitting there out there with with that inkling that something wasn't quite right, but they can't put their finger on it, and they don't wanna be called crazy, but they feel like their loved 1 was euthanized or killed in the hospital. And we hear it time and time again when people find us, and they see all of these other stories and the 25 commonalities, which really opens people's eyes to getting their medical records. And so, so I think that had a lot to do with it. You know, my husband stormed the ICU because he used to be a nurse, and nothing made sense to him. Mhmm. Nothing made sense, and he and he's not 1 to be told. Like, Sherry was saying. Right? Like, he's not 1 to be told you can't take care of your wife, or you can't do this, or you can't do that. So Let let me share this. I talk about staying in my lane, and I and when I say that to you guys, I'm talking to me. Because when I I appeared before, Placid County, this past Tuesday, the speaker before me, he was talking about election integrity. Mhmm. And I was gonna comment about that, but I said, no. What I'm doing is immutable. I have to stick with the script. And because every appearance I make, that's part of the public record, and I need to stay in my lane. And I also need to stay in my emotional, psychological lane because in August of 20 23, I began to fantasize about that movie, John Q. It's it's stars Denzel Washington where he basically, his son is is has a heart condition. He's getting the runaround, and he's trying to raise money. He gets frustrated. And he takes ER hostage, you know. Yep. For those who haven't seen it, I won't do the spoiler alert. And I was fantasizing John q at the California Department of Public Health. My lane is to outthink, is to intellectualize, is to use my brain. I am not a soldier. I have not been in the military. I haven't taken any self defense classes. I I don't know anything about, you know, using a firearm. So my lane is out thinking, writing. I'm really glad God gave me the ability to write. And so, because I stayed in my psychological, my emotional, my spiritual lane, and I can write, I can speak. This is how I am constructively channeling, my anger. I have been very angry, but I can say that with the spirit of love as well. And and and and I I I'm not bragging on myself, please. No. I'm just talking about how my journey has led to this point. But I am very impressed with, Julie. I think she's on because she has she has lost so much, but yet she still conducts herself the way that she's conducted herself. And and others, I I've been, you know, tuning in some of these spaces. And, anyway so, yeah, I've, it's it's yes. I I wanted to commend you, and just say a scripture that came to mind when you were speaking about being angry, but also maintaining love. The Bible says in your anger, do not sin. And and that's exactly we we have every right to be righteously angry, but we do have to maintain that spirit of love and and and that's and that sound mind because that's tied together. If you get super angry, you literally can lose control of your mind and get so angry that you don't accomplish what you need to accomplish to win this war. So and it would be COVID understandable, but we have to maintain that self control and maintain that right mind so that we can win this battle. So I appreciate where you're coming from, and I think those of us who share that same brother and sisterhood with you, totally get it. So just thank you for that. It's it's wonderful to hear that. Yep. We can go to, so we could go to Julie and then Patty g and then +1 972. So Julie, Patty g 19 72. You're you're up, Julie. Hey, friends. Yeah. Thanks, Ron. I tell you. And first of all, I need to apologize to Mick. I think I threw a hissy fit last night, and I didn't mean to. I mean, I did. I'm tired. And I, you know, it just and I for those of you who didn't know what hissy fit I threw, so there was a space last night, and I got I got mad, and I just stomped off the stage. I just, like, dropped. I'm like and I was just wrong, and I let my emotions catch up to me. I did, and I really felt bad about it. And so and then, you know, a few minutes ago, again, I'm laying here, like and and Ronald's calling me, and I'm like, I don't wanna deal with this anymore kinda thing. But then I'm like and you know, the and Ronald had asked me the other day, he's like, how do you maintain when you've lost your mom? I mean, if, you know, he said if my mom was murdered, I don't I go, you know, I am my mother's daughter, and she taught me to suck it up, buttercup, basically. And life happens. And she lived a long and happy life, and she went through hell and back in her 84. I mean, she grew up in Buffalo, Wyoming just outside of Heart Mountain where they interred the Japanese in World War 2 when we decided as a country that we were scared of the Japanese. And they we rounded them up and put them in I don't know if a lot of people remember that, in this Heart Mountain camp in the middle of Wyoming. Right? And she befriended a little boy when she was 5 years old. This little Japanese boy took him to school. So, you know, part of it is, you know and again, I I get you know, I mean, we're all I guess, I don't even have any words anymore, you guys. I, but I just have to keep fighting. And so when I joined and I'm sitting here going, my gosh. You guys posted my videos from Thursday. You're so generous. And, yeah, there's nothing else that I mean, getting mad is gonna serve nobody and nothing. Right? It's just gonna get us nowhere. So I appreciate you guys being so consistent and holding your spaces. And, again, I apologize for last night because that was just just wrong. And, but, yeah, here we are to fight another day. So I'm getting out of bed again. There we go. Julie, can I just say something? I I I'm I just I think you're an incredible woman. I think you're fearless. I love everything that you're doing and the fight within you, and it is so it is so uplifting for people to see that and go, okay. It it it's inspiring truly. I don't forgive me though. I I did not I did not take offense to anything. I didn't even say to myself, gosh. Because I I would have texted you and said, is everything okay? But I didn't even catch that you were that you had stormed off the stage. Yeah. It was you're wonderful. Well, yeah. I and, Mick, you're you're again 1 of the most you guys and, again, patience. Right? It's a virtue, and I had none of it last night. It was all gone. And, and this, you know, it's been, what, 2 and a half years now, I guess, fighting every day. And, you know, on Thursday when I was out there at Downtown Chico, which is the video at the top, and they were giving monkeypox shots at the Stonewall Alliance, LGBTQ organization on Thursday afternoon. It was just like, oh, this is absurd. And so, you know, down there and the you know, I need to confront and I do it peacefully, but, you know, Wes, who's this nurse manager from ANLO where I worked, who's been at every single vaccine clinic that I've gone to to put on video in these 2 and a half years. And so starting with the 1 where they were trying to find children in Chico, it was at the mall and I reminded him of that. I said, Wes, oh my gosh, I don't understand you. And I handed out information and links including the former Feds Freedom Foundation and, you know, actually, and it wasn't all on the video because it was just the first few minutes when he came out. He sat there for an hour with us on the sidewalk and talked through everything and we had a very calm, good conversation. 1 of our supervisors actually showed up because she's a sponsor of l of the, Stonewall Alliance. But anyway, so and she Tammy Ritter, our supervisor, so she's like, hey, what are you guys doing? I'm like, you know, Tammy, it's this you know, you're giving out poison shots. I don't understand. Anyway, but yeah, so there's Wes and I, you know, it's so hard because he's like, well, I'm sure your mom died of heart disease, the number 1 killer. I said she had no heart disease, Wes. This is unbelievable. She had nothing like that. She was perfectly healthy. And then he's like well how come you guys aren't down protesting at McDonald's that kills more. I said like I go seriously well. So I said we are fully aware of the dangers of eating McDonald's. We're full he goes you know we've got we're so high with our smoking rates in Butte County. I said, are you for real? I said, I don't believe that for a second, but okay. We are fully aware of the dangers of smoking. It's all over the the packs of cigarettes, so we're well aware and you have to be over 18 to go buy them and it's not that way with these shots. You're giving them to babies. I said, you know, I and he goes, well, you know, I don't believe in the mandates. I said, well, how many shots have you taken? I said, are you all up to date on all 10? He's like, well, I took 3. I said, then you're a hypocrite. If you only took 3 COVID vaccines, you, that means you only took shots in 2021. You didn't take any in 2022, '20 '20 '3, '20 '20 '4. That means you know they're dangerous. That means you know they don't work. They're not safe. They're not effective. That's hypocritical. So, you need, you know, So I, you know, and, like, you know, Ron and I talk about, are we making a difference? Are we somehow, someway, I believe we are somewhere in the universe. And, you know, it yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna go further. I'm gonna go further. Go ahead, my dear. Thank you. I'm a I'm gonna go further. He's more than a hypocrite. He is an accessory to murder and crimes against humanity because he knows what he's doing. His very actions of not taking the updated shots himself shows that he knows what he's doing. He knows that it's killing people, and he is still doing it. So it's worse than being a hypocrite. He's an accessory to murder and crimes against humanity, at least at minimum. Thanks, Miriam. Anyway, go on with I I would love to hear from the rest of the group. There's oh, there's Jeremiah, my other friend. You guys have to know this. You all keep me going. Okay? Every single 1 of you on stage, so thank you. Yes. Thank you, Julie. We love everything you're doing. We were talking about you earlier before you came on and what you were doing at the impox clinic, and we pinned those videos to the nest. And I just I love that you're such a bulldog about what happened to you and your family and and making other people aware of it. And I love your tactics. I think you're going about it just the right way, and I'm so glad you're out there fighting. Exactly. Okay. Thanks everyone for being super patient. It's gonna it's Patty g, flashback, Toby. Those are the next 3. Hey. Good evening. It's Patty g tonight. How are you guys? Good to be here. Just wanted to say, give a shout out to to Gail. I hope you got the, the recording from our, podcast. And I also wanted to just, give a shout out to Ron. I really appreciate it here and all the stuff you're doing and what you've been working on because I think you're right. I was 1 of the whistleblowers from the hospital as well as a COVID survivor. Had remdesivir, put a book out there, kinda sharing an inside behind the scenes from what went on in the hospitals the first 3 years of the pandemic. And, you're absolutely right. It was really a predominantly 2 to 1 ratio of black and Hispanics and predominantly men that, were taken by COVID or by the the protocols. And just wanted to, just wanted to share that with you guys. And, I know we've had some changes too. Wanted to share with the group. We're gonna be doing our trauma group on Thursday evenings, so I'll be putting that up for everybody on the, the former Fed site and page. And, Gail, you can help me get everybody who who wants to tune in. But, that's just 1 of the things when you guys were talking earlier and I was having trouble getting on. It's so true. We have to keep the fight. We have to keep putting the word out there. We have to keep telling our stories. And, you know, if we if we keep telling our stories, more and more people are starting to hear hear and see things, and it's just so important to not give up. I know, Mick, you've been doing a lot of people having them come on your podcast. I still have some slots. If anybody wants to share your story on the airwaves, we've always gotten great responses from people that are just still so shocked because they're not hearing this on the mainstream media. And the more opportunities we have to get these stories out there is just so important. And, I know in in 1 of the other, shows I did, I had doctor Boros on from Key West. And he's had such a great response from people that, you know, he was 1 of the early physicians who was out there getting ivermectin to people. And, we're all out there. We're all out there. We're coming together. I just found out last week. It's so cool. 1 of the folks that we had talked to early on back in 2021, she lives in my town from the former Feds Group. So we're gonna connect, and, you know, it's just our network is getting so much larger that it's becoming smaller, meaning that there's not gonna be a town or a county that's not gonna hear about all the injustices and the deaths, the murders that were created so that everybody across this country and across the the world are gonna know. And, just wanted to give a shout out tonight just to say hi to everybody. It's awesome. I wanted to interject. I raised my hand, but it went down. I but whoever was speaking, and I tried to see who it was. If you want to direct message me, I'd be more than happy to share my story on your platform. That was Patty Jean. That's me. Yeah. That would be wonderful. I'd I'd love to. I'll, I'll send you a message, Ron. I'm so excited to hear about you and would love to get you out there. We're, we actually go across the world on, Spotify, Apple, iHeart, you name it. Oh my. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Sure. Thanks, Patty. I love it when y'all make the connections that make the difference in our spaces. It's just the coolest thing to watch. Yeah. I do too. Awesome. So, I think Flashback was next. Right? And then Toby? Yeah. Toby dropped, but Toby, if you wanna say a few things, jump back up on mic. How are you doing, Flashback? 19 70 coupe. Hi. I'm doing okay. I wanted just to to touch on, what Huck was saying. I think it was Huck that was talking, that he's been to the board of supervisors meetings all, you know, through California. That was Ronald. And mhmm. Oh, that was Ronald. Okay. I'm gonna do the same thing. I've been quiet this whole time because I've been trying to get my job back, with the county, and I have a vaccine injury. And, so I've been kinda playing it cool, but, it's it's not working. I'm not getting my job back, and, you know, I'm gonna lose everything I have anyway. But I'm gonna start, going to the meetings and and and speaking because, something has to be done. Are you in California? I have I am in California. Direct message me. Let's connect. What what what county are you in, by the way? Santa Clara County. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. We're going to Santa Clara. My mom was murdered. Yeah. Steve Thursday. Oh, yeah. Girl. We will be there. Santa Clara in our site. So let's let's direct message. Okay? Okay. I I will. Thank you. Okay. That's awesome. So I don't know. Ronald and Jewel Julie, do you guys wanna take over? No. I'm just kidding. Seriously, belly of the Beast, Santa Clara County. It's where home of Zuckerberg. You know? Oh my gosh. And we just made another connection. We are gonna storm the chambers of Santa Clara County. Y'all can come out and join us. We'll tell you the dates. So if anybody else is in California, just click the little microphone so so we can connect y'all. Yeah. And we could put put something up about this on the ca.chbmp site too. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Anytime. Oh, let me know where to point the camera. Yeah. No kidding. Right? See, if all of us share it in the little ways we can, then it makes a much bigger splash than than if we didn't. Love it. Well, let me just add 1 thing before you go to Jeremiah. It's Julie. So and Santa Clara County does their supervisor meetings on Zoom. So we will behind the scenes. We never like to, blast out the date when we go because we have a surprise attack kind of, you know, thing going. But you all can call in and that we if we had 50 people on Zoom and, you know, 5 or 6 of us people including Steve Kirsch and others in the chambers. Yeah. Let's see how that goes over. Oh, that would be so awesome. And we can send it out, like, through our little private networks. For sure. Jeremiah, do you have something to add? You gonna cover this? Oh, yeah. I I would like to. I'm a big fan of, Julie and Ronald, for sure, to outstanding representatives of the cause. And I was just thinking in terms of their comments. You know, it's so interesting. I mean, first of all, you know, to get really down to basics, all the medical complications, scientific, you know, areas of expertise, etcetera, this comes down to simple principle that other people shouldn't be able to force other people to do things that they don't wanna do. Simple as that. You know, and that's where they're they're defeated. Philosophically, they're defeated at the Ground Floor on on the most basic level of what's going on here. It's like they could say, oh, you're you know, they think they're they're geniuses or something. They they know so much. They they know science. They know medicine. Yeah. But that doesn't give you the right to force other people to do things. That's number 1. But, you know, it's so interesting, like, you know, the the guy who, you know, he he he's not up to date with his boosters. Almost none of these people are up to date with their boosters. Lucky for them. But, you know, it's like someone was arguing with me on Facebook earlier, and they said you know, someone said, in reference to someone else who was arguing with me, oh, don't talk to him. You know, he he drank the Kool Aid. And I'm like, I drank the Kool Aid, but you're the 1 taking a bunch of vaccines. So I'm just the same person I was from the beginning, and you're the 1 who's now involved in this ongoing medical protocol, this new lifestyle of continually being injected. So you think I'm the 1 who sipped the Kool Aid? But it was interesting because, like, on that particular page, you know, a bunch of people were trying to land base me. Like, I kinda walked into enemy territory or whatever. I don't care. But, you know, then the person inboxed me with these sort of sentimental statements saying, you know, I I really respect you, and and I think you're a great writer. And, you know, and it's like, you know, I I I really wish we could have a more intelligent conversation about this, You know? And and the person was kind of revealing it. You know? They they realized something's wrong here. And he said, you know, I I did take the original shots, but I haven't taken any boosters. And, you know, it's it's really interesting. People are having a hard time coming to grips with the reality of the situation. There are some people I've come across. I mean, I'm amazed. They're stuck at ground level, propaganda. It's like you would think this was day 1 of everything that's happened. I mean, those people really exist too. You know, I don't know how they've avoided the died suddenly phenomenon and all the things that you would notice if you're slightly sensitive. They're watching TV. Yeah. You know? And, you know, and they've been convinced that, you know, a vaccine could never harm you, which is just, you know, they they're just ignorant to the facts. I mean, that's the point as well as, you know, you come across these people, you argue with them, they really just they don't know anything about what they're talking about in general. You know, you could kinda quiz them quickly or just make reference to a few things they they absolutely don't know. You know? And what was there was something that, it was something that someone said earlier that I wanted to that I wanted to respond to. That was such a good point, but I can't remember what it was. But, but, yeah, in general, I can only stress that, you know, we have to just be very calm in our disposition in realizing that I mean, people are just they're frankly displaying a lot of ignorance at this point. You know, every every step of the way, every little bit of the argument, they're they're actually wrong. You know? Their their position is predicated on wrong ideas and wrong ethics is what I've emphasized to them over and over again. You know, I say, if you're if you're supporting this stuff, you know, there comes a point where, you know, I guess we won't agree because that I'll insist that you're operating on a denigrated concept of the human person. You're you're you're operating on an anti human platform eventually if you're gonna argue for the right to injure people, argue for the right to to to impose totalitarian policies on people. I mean, you know, eventually it comes down to that. Well, I guess, yeah, you're gonna continue to argue for the right to abuse and to denigrate. What could we frankly say about that? I wanted to add, I I I I'm still learning how to work Twitter. Me too. I went to I went to I don't know how I came across your page, Jeremiah, but I saw this back and forth going on. And, I wish that these people would just take the time, and this doesn't have anything to do with the COVID 19 vaccine, but vaccines in period. There's a doctor Richard Fox. He filed a lawsuit in August. This man is brilliant. He is a pediatrician as well as an attorney. It took him out 6 months to write this lawsuit, essentially challenging childhood immunizations here in California. And in the lawsuit, it's more than a 50 some odd pages. Anybody with a brain sit down and read those that lawsuit. If you were approved childhood immunization, you read the lawsuit, and at least you come away thinking, you know what? This guy's got a point. These imminent these these childhood vaccines, are are are are are dangerous. And, basically, I'm trying to summarize it. The point is is that the Congress, FDA, CDC, they know and have known from the get go that childhood vaccines are are poison. But they have not but, but but parents who have been mandated to take these vaccines, or or have their kids take these vaccines, they don't know. They have their first amendment rights to to here in order to make informed consent decisions for their children has been abridged. And and and and I think that's the that's the point of his lawsuit. Anyway, this has not been covered at all because it's it's, you know well well, we know because of as Jeremiah noted yesterday's, last night's space because of the corporate corporate media. But, yeah, if, I was when I read this lawsuit, I mean, I was already, I didn't know why they call this anti vaxx, whatever, to begin with. But this just makes the point that these law that these childhood immunizations are are poison. And matter of fact, I I I spoke with him, in September, and, he said, Ron, I've got I'm a pediatrician. I conduct the, physical with with the kids. And for those who are not vaccinated, I never see them again. They don't have any of those, ailments that other vaccinated kids have. And so, yeah, I I I just wish people that who would just rather just attack and and launch ad hominem, barbs at at people. Educate yourself. Educate yourself. And if you still agree that you should go ahead and give your child 80 vaccines for the first 18 years of your life, well, that's your choice. But at least don't just launch that attack against you, Jeremiah, or anybody else. Anyway I would I would just say I think a lot of those people, air quotes people, aren't actually expressing their heartfelt opinions. They are part of a paid speech propaganda campaign to make it seem like there's a lot of support for these experimental products. Absolutely. There isn't. I will say this too, mister Owens. The 1986, vaccine injury court that Ronald Reagan's act that Ronald Reagan signed, the reason that that was even looked at seriously was because the at the time, the pharma companies came to the government and said these vaccines are unavoidably unsafe. They have been sued many, many times, over injuries, And they wanted to be indemnified because in their words, the vaccines were unavoidably unsafe. And that's the whole reason why that was passed and why Ronald Reagan signed it because the concern was that they would not be able to stay in business with the products they had without being indemnified because they, quote, were unavoidably unsafe. This is documented history, and this has been shoved under the rug. And now the narrative has become safe and effective, safe and effective. It's childhood vaccines. It's safe and effective. And they just took it to a higher level with the novel, COVID mRNA vaccine technology. They tricked people, well, look, you know, we've got this childhood vaccine schedule. It's safe. It's safe. Kids take it. What's another vaccine? I mean, that's literally how some poor uninformed souls look at this, and they are not even close in comparison. MRNA is in no way. It's far worse. But, also, the childhood vaccines are known to be unavoidably unsafe. So it's it's just 1 1 thing 1 lie built upon another to continue to push their business model. That's exactly what it is. Well, and to make the money. Right? Because, I mean, they get a a a lot. Isn't it a 50 to 1 return rate for vaccines or well, what they call vaccines. Correct. Yes. It is a business model. There is no doubt about it. It was a business model from the beginning. That's why they insisted upon being indemnified, being made not liable because they knew their business model would not survive because they themselves admitted that vaccines, vaccines as the whole category, vaccines were unavoidably unsafe. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the egregious thing about it is too. Why why are we giving, brand newborn babies hepatitis b? Are they having sex? Are they injecting drugs? Because I don't think so. When there's no clinical indicator, you know right there Yeah. That it's a business model. That's all it is. Right. So, you know, it is absolutely unconscionable what has been done to our children. And what business do you know is given complete blanket immunity? Any other business with the track record that they have would be out of business, sued into oblivion. Yeah. Yep. I think I did it successfully. I posted the link of the lawsuit in the purple Pill. Pill. Is that what you call it? Yeah. Did Ronald, and I found that and I pinned it to the nest. So I stopped there. Woo hoo. Bye. Yeah. So, basically, yeah, that's it you know, when when doctor Fox forwarded me that link, it was encrypted. But I still thought, well, I could well, I didn't find out it was encrypted until I tried until I forwarded so I could read it on my iPad or read it on my desktop. And I'm and it and it was encrypted. So I had to read the lawsuit with my iPhone. I turned it sideways so I can read it better. And I need to read it again, because I've read it, like, about a month month and a half ago. And, but, yeah, it's it's quite revelatory. In essence, he's suing. I'm talking about doctor Fox. He's representing this community group in Santa Cruz, and he's suing, doctor Thomas Aragon, who is the director at the California Department of Public Health, my former employer, Tony Thurmond. He is the, state superintendent, and, I believe he has gubernatorial aspirations. Doctor Fox is also suing, the director of the medical board of California because 1 of the plaintiffs is a Monterey Monterey, doctor who advised his patient not to take the childhood immunizations, and the medical board of California, revoked his license. I mean, that's just that's just wrong. You know, we hear all the time, oh, the government shouldn't get in the middle between the doctor and a woman regarding the abortion debate. But when it comes to childhood immunizations or or doctors, advising their chil their their patients not to take the COVID 19 vaccine, well, that's different. So, 1 of the plaintiffs is this physician, and you'll see his name in that particular, legal document. And, doctor Fox is also suing Manny Cohen with the CDC and a couple of school districts. 6 other plaintiffs are unnamed, they because they're minors, and their parents are from Guatemala Mana Guatemala. So, this is a historic lawsuit because if it reaches, to the court and, you know, if if it's overthrown, it could really and happens in California, it could it could really reverberate across the nation. That's very exciting. Yeah. And that's all it takes is for, you know, a victory to happen like that to cause the dominoes to fall. So that's really wonderful. Thank you for sharing that. You're welcome. You're welcome. Julie and well, I see your hands up. If your hands are not, let me know. But I see Julie and then Jeremiah waiting. Yeah. I jumped my I wanted you guys to know I didn't, like, leave the space mad. My phone died. I'm like, oh, no. They're gonna be mad. No. No. No worries at all, Julie. I know. I'm on my private phone now. I have 2 phones. But, no. I'm I'm glad that Ron raised that and and actually 1 of the first calls with the inter what was it? International Doctors for COVID Ethics International that I was on, Ron was on there too with, doctor Fox and Alex Mayer from the Freedom Now Foundation who's also part of that lawsuit and it really kind of warms my heart. I in fact, again, this Wes nurse from NLO who's in the video you'll see up above, the m pox clinic, you know, 1 of the questions he asked me is like, well, so do you believe that all vaccines are bad or is it just the COVID shot? Shot? I go, well, obviously not. I'm here at a monkeypox clinic so and I'm wearing a shirt that says educate before you vaccinate, HPV shots are poison. So yeah. No. I said, listen, Wes. I've spent now 2 and a half years researching everything, every single thing about every single quote, unquote vaccine. And what I found is pretty disturbing. I said, if you really, again, step back and do your research, the CDC has lied since the beginning of time. Right? I said, go look at the Rockefellers and understand how pharmaceutical products became prominent because of oil products that Rockefeller needed to use somehow. And then you can just go from there. Do you know measles was eradicated before they even started giving an a measles vaccine, sir? I said, do you know there were secret meetings in Simpsonwood, Georgia in 2000 where they brought together pharmaceutical companies to a private meeting with the CDC to talk about autism. And they all discovered it was true, but then they were sworn to secrecy and they couldn't even bring phones into the meeting. Go look at Simpson Wood meetings, Wes. No. They're all bad. And he goes, Julie, do you have anything else to be doing? I said, no. Because you fired me from the job at Enloe because, again, I I had was mandated to take a booster. So, no. What else do you want me to do, Wes? No. This is my life's work. I have 7 grandchildren. And those poor children, I said, those poor parents have a I mean, it's horrific what they have to go through with these childhood vaccine schedules. They're not off you know, they can ask all the questions that that I give them of their pediatrician. And they still have to stare at a pediatrician going, well, that's absurd. Do you want your child to have RSV? Do you want your child to have measles, mumps, rubella? Do you want your child to have HPV, a cancer, rapid fire. And they're, like, stuck. Right? And then, you know, my 1 stepdaughter goes, Julie, she goes, you know, I found out during COVID because she didn't take her kids, you know, to their wellness checks, right, because of COVID and they kinda forget. When the first, you know, time that she takes the 2 children in, they have to catch up. And I'm like, oh my god. This is absurd. It's a criminal. Right? I mean, that we've seen that story, right, of that 1 shot. It took 18 shots to keep caught up and immediately immediately is autistic now. So, no, it's I just pray for Richard Fox's lawsuit because there's just not a 1. There's a gold rush of vaccines that happened after Ronald Reagan signed that immunity law. And, you can actually see the, if you go look at the pharmaceutical companies that make these childhood vaccines, they've got an annuity model built into their financial plans, into their p and l's because they know the the the birth rate. So they can project, they can go, hey, our birth rate is running at x y z. We have 5000000 babies, let's say, born a year. So in 5 years, those 5, you know, 50000000 children are worth $3,500,000,000,000 to our bottom line. They already project that out as an annuity model on their P and L, which then allows them to start funding new vaccines. So it's criminal all the way around. But, again, thank you for the space, you guys. I am gonna drop down to Listener and run to the store. But, again, Ronald, I love you. I am so pleased to have met you. By the grace of God, we were brought together and, to fight this battle, and you pick me up every single day, sir. So thank you. Well, we encourage 1 another. Thank you, guys. Jeremiah, go ahead. Yeah. I was just gonna say, I mean, I guess I hope I'm not being redundant based on what I said previously, but, you know, the whole discussion to me, the whole the whole argument across society is predicated on the concept of whether you respect people or not, basically. You know? I could just honestly and simply say I I respect other people. You know? I I look at people. You know, I try to treat everybody equally and try to treat everybody fairly and with respect in in the course of everyday life. You know, if I look at a person, I see homeless people in the streets, and and I feel for them because I really don't know what their life consisted of. You know? A lot of people will just sort of, you know, frown upon people when they see people who aren't in good shape, might be down and out on the streets or what have you. And I wonder, you know, what happened to this person. You know? So some people, you know, they might have been really doing well at 1 point in their life, and we we like to think that we could all, you know, dig in a little deeper and and and make things right when things go wrong. But, you know, everyone has a breaking point. You know? People have gone through all kinds of things in their life, and we have no idea, you know, if we haven't walked in their shoes. And it's just amazing to me how this whole debate is predicated on this idea of just really insulting people, dismissing people, not respecting people, you know. So we have to assert respect for human beings starting with ourselves, you know. Self respect being the basis on which, you know, we respect others. But, you know, this notion of, you know, a mother sees that her child is different after a vaccine, and they just oh, no. That, you know, that that's that's not true. That's not real. No 1 knows a child better than the child's mother, But they've tried to bury the accounts, the firsthand testimonies of so many mothers and fathers who have seen their children changed and injured by vaccines. I mean, there's that recent case of you know I think their twin boys got their vaccines and just immediately regressed into autism. I mean what a nightmare. As parents we all as parents want our children to just achieve as well as they can, to be as healthy as they can be, to be as intelligent and as well educated as as they can be, and your child gets an injection, and now you have you're raising a vegetable, or you're raising a child that is a shell of their former selves, their their formative developments been totally interrupted. And you have people who they don't want to, to address this. They they wanna take those families and and sweep these stories under the rug. They wanna hide these stories so they can continue making their profit. And, you know, I think there's more to it, however, though, than profit, which is something said earlier. You know, I think we have to look beyond a business model. Something I can't explain it. I won't theorize about it right now, but there's something more to this. There's something about controlling the human organism on the planet. There's something about intentionally injuring us. I mean, if you wanna just make money, how about just inject us with something that wouldn't harm us? But, okay, you go ahead and make your money. But no. They're harming people. They're they're allowing this harm to continue. And, you know, it's interesting like somebody I was arguing with somebody else on social media earlier and so I'm a medical professional. I said, well you know what? I've interviewed medical professionals who have been permanently injured by their by their injections. And you know to me that's that's my trump card. You know you could show me whatever studies or claiming you're familiar with some theory or some technicality. I direct you to the firsthand accounts of people who have been injured by these shots and some people to an unimaginable extent that they're living in in torture every day. I mean, to imagine, you know, no 1 really likes the process of aging. You know? Few gray hairs start poking up out of there, you know, popping up eventually, you know, little arthritis here and there. You know? We we we get older. So to be fast forwarded in the old age, I mean, how cruel is that? And then to deny these people in on top of that. I mean, it's it's hell on earth. Or to tell them they're it's all in their head and they're they're going crazy and to gaslight them that now they're they're just, you know, crazy conspiracy theorists who have taken this on board, and so they have psychosomatic symptoms. Like, it's it's so horrendous what they've done to people. And the people And what they're still doing to people. Calling the vaccine injured anti vaxxers. Anti vaxxers don't take vaccines. These are the people who trusted vaccination and have paid for it. With vaxxers. Just like the, you know, peak censorship was people reporting directly on social media their their own experiences with vaccine injury and that getting flagged and labeled as misinformation. Really? Me saying what happened to me is misinformation? Yeah. That was 1 of the most abhorrent things that we saw. And then we saw after those campaigns where they were censoring the stories of the people who were experienced adverse effects, like, in the very start of the campaign, then they said, oh, well, yeah, we were censoring those even though we knew they were true. Now at the time when they were censoring them, they were calling them misinformation. But then after the fact, years later, they said, well, we knew they were true, but we were censoring them because they might increase facts hesitancy and decrease uptake. So we needed to censor those for the in the interest of the public health. And that's just so egregious and wrong. And, you know, it boggles the mind, doesn't it, Chelsea, that they can say, well, we knew it was true, but we didn't wanna decrease uptake. Well, if you're telling them that, you know, these vaccines are dangerous and you're saying that, you know, that the message is going out that the vaccines are dangerous, and you're saying you know it's true, but you don't wanna decrease hesitancy, then effect in effect, what you're saying is we know it's dangerous, but we want people to take it anyway because we want to harm them. That can be the only reason why you would consider something that you know to be true that is harmful. Yep. So it's it's mind boggling. And in in the first in the first while, the language was these vaccines are safe and effective. Even a % safe and effective was their line. And then it was, like, 90%, 80 %, 70 %, and then then they changed the language completely where it's safe and effective for most people. Right. Which indicates the willingness to sacrifice some people. Exactly. That's like, to be purposeful moving of the goalpost so that people can be sacrificed. And speaking of, children and vaccinations and, benchmarks and goalposts, I believe, Chelsea, we have, Michael Jackson up as a speaker. When he was here last, he was letting us know the saga that he was going through, I believe, in Canada with his daughter and the legal the legal persecution, not prosecution that he was experiencing. Would it be okay if I invited Michael up to speak? Yeah. Yeah. Catch us up on on what's happened since we last heard from you, Michael. Sure. Hello, everyone. Things are going well, actually. I've done, another interview with, a man named Peyman Asghari. He's a man in British Columbia, Canada who's running for a political party, but it was a good interview, and it made a lot of traction. I've also got an interview lined up for tomorrow night. I'm not sure the time, but it's called, truth table in Canada. I will probably announce it. I I haven't heard back the exact time. I know it's in the evening. I believe it's 07:00. And then on Monday, I have an inter or, an interview with Amalia in, her space. That's all advertised in my thing too. I think that's 06:45 on Monday night. And then, hopefully, there's a discussion gonna be coming up about the actual just the the legal aspect of it and what they're doing with a couple gentlemen on November 5. And, yeah, I mean, I've I've got just a little over 30 days till I get sentenced, and I'm just trying to raise awareness. And, I don't know if I'm gonna shame them or not. They're probably just gonna dig their heels in, but, hopefully, it'll have some kind of effect, all this traction that's coming up right now. Lots of people are following and watching my page, so it's it's good news. I just, I just you know, I I don't like to ask or anything like that, but I just really wish people would, participate in my gifts and go because, literally, a couple of weeks, maybe 3, I think, from now, I have to be able to present to a lawyer, like, $22,000. And the reason is that, once you get sentenced, you're immediately held in custody, so then they, you know, basically take you to jail. And that's when you can file your appeal in Canada. You can't file even though you've been sentenced, you can't file it till you sorry. Even though you've been found guilty, you can't, file an appeal until you've been sentenced and in custody. So I have to have that all worked out before our time to give to a lawyer so that he can arrange to try and get me bail, and it's called bail pending appeal. So, you know, soon as I'm put into jail, then he'll apply to the appeal court of Saskatchewan and ask them to let me out on bail until the appeal gets heard, which is about a year after that. So I'm just, I'm trying to raise money for that, but it's not going very well. I think there's only 227 or $227 in there. And, it'd be nice if you could just direct message 22,000 people and have them donate a dollar. But, it doesn't seem to be going very well. And I know most people are strapped and everything, but I think it's just why I'm trying to get my story out there to get the support and show them what's going on. And I think that, you know, explaining the repercussions of this becoming a precedent in Canadian law is helping the situation. I think that, in the past when people just looked at the case, they didn't really have much of an opinion because it wasn't happening to them. But I think now the word is starting to spread of what this could mean if if the verdict stands and the precedent is set that, basically, any parent in Canada, won't have the defense that if you believe something's gonna hurt your child, you can't be found guilty of it. It's gonna basically change that to the point where they can arrest you and lock you up and find you guilty for protecting your children. And I don't know why people don't get that or they they can't believe I think it's more like they can't believe it would happen. They can't believe that that's real in Canada. They're you know, not in our country. That could never happen. But if they really look at my story and listen to the whole thing and realize that's exactly what happened, there it's, you know, a parent just trying to protect his child at all costs and them just making a huge example out of me. So but I appreciate the support, from this group. You know, I I know it's this group that I joined. It was most of my followers and a few others, and I think it's important to get it out in The States. You guys are much more, I don't know what I'd say, much more alive to the fact of your rights than we are here. We've just been sleeping for so many years, and most people don't care as long as they get to go to work every day. And, Yeah. I'm just I'm just glad I met this group and, have been able to, reach out to certain people. Thank you. Thank you, Michael. It seems to me, in your case that time is on your side because, every day that passes, more and more people are becoming aware that this is going on. And if you're going to be waiting a year to actually, you know, go to trial or whatever it was you said, then, you know, a year from now, we could have moved the goalposts a lot more than we we have to to this point. So Did you did you say your campaign is on give, send, go? Yes. It is. And, like, I've already been found guilty, and I'm just awaiting sentencing on December 6. So when December 6 comes down, I'll be put into custody. And then my chances to be able to speak if I'm not out on bail are gone. So Yeah. So you have 30 30 days to raise the money is basically what you're saying. Yes. Have you gone on have you reached out to Stu Peters? I mean, he's got the I mean, like, I don't know. He's got the reach. Right? No. I don't know who that is. He's a he's a podcaster here in America. Stu Peters, SG and Aon, those guys have huge audiences. Like, I mean, this I'm just gonna tell you from experience. I never heard of SG and A. I went on his show. I thought he's just a little podcast, doesn't have a lot of, views, and I gave out my phone number. And a gazillion people contacted me. And I didn't realize within 2 days, there was gonna be, like, 30,000 and rising people watching it. It was, like, over a hundred thousand people saw the episode where I gave out my phone number. So Oh, wow. Yeah. So, like, I some of these people have huge reach, and and I know Stu Peters has been able to really put out people's pleas for, you know, raising money to help their, to help their causes. I'm try I'm just you know, I'm not and I'm not endorsing any of these podcasts. Okay. But I do know that they have huge reach, and they have really helped many people I know with their their quest to raise money. I am personally gonna go out to your thing and donate something. So That's appreciated. I think, like, the biggest problem with all the shows in Canada is they don't have any reach. Like, Yeah. You know, maybe they'll have 2 or 3,000 people, watch the video, and that's it. Like, you know, the biggest 1 I did, I think, got, like, 11,000 views. And that's just the people who believe in what we believe in. Yeah. It doesn't reach out anywhere else. And, you you really do have to hit kind of mainstream, people. But I I also have a problem is I don't have a blue tick. And, to DM certain people, you require a blue tick. And, that like, I've tried I paid the money with Twitter and the whole thing, and it just, they've denied me. I don't know how it works. Like, when I went to authenticate my ID, it just kicks me back to the beginning. It says, you're approved, and it just went circle after circle after circle. And I've tried dozens of times to reach out to their support, the online support, and they just yeah. They're pointless. The last time I they gave me a message saying, sir, we can't help you anymore. So I and I I guess that happens with some people. I don't know why. But, I think if I had the blue tick tick, it would obviously help me, but I'm kinda having to just rely on other people. I might suggest, you create an account just dedicated to this cause. So you have your account that's your name, but also create an account that is, you know, the name of your campaign to to raise money or whatever it is, and and center the account around that, and then pay the $48 a month or whatever it is to get the blue tick on that account. And don't authenticate your ID because that part is optional. You don't have to do that. But once you start that process, you might be locked into it. So, so maybe try again with a new account. And since you only have, a few hundred followers on this 1, you can encourage those people to jump over to the new account. And then, of course, we can retweet it so people know it exists and can go follow-up on the new account. This account is specifically for that purpose. Like, I I've never had a Twitter account before. I designed this account just for this purpose. Right. I'm just saying if it if you're stuck in a loop with Twitter support on that account, you might try creating another account. Okay. I guess it's just a little it's a little scary considering how long it took to get this far to just start another 1 kind of worries me, especially this close to, you know, my time, but I'll consider that. Thank you. That's a fair point too. Time is short. Thank you. Thank you, Michael. I wanna remind everybody we are here to listen to stories of COVID related crimes against humanity, whether you've been impacted by COVID policies, protocols, or mandates. These are inclusive of hospital COVID protocols that were incentivized by the government and in often in many cases, ended up killing people and causing more harm than they prevented, and and mRNA product injury, and, really, any any way your life has been impacted by COVID related crimes against humanity, which are crimes against humanity that were perpetrated under pretext of COVID or public health policy. We have someone in the comments who said where she lives, they murdered her mom in the hospital during COVID. She died alone. She tried to stay with her, but security dragged her out because she wouldn't wear a mask. They let her mom die of thirst while they filled her with drugs after she had a stroke. And I wanted to to tell Misty, you are not alone. We've heard many such cases of of the same types of things. Huckleberry's wife, so arise. Gail has in in experienced this firsthand and actually survived the the protocols that likely killed your mother. And, I'm so sorry that happened to you and your family. I'd invite you to come up on mic. I sent a mic if you're if you're inclined to take it. We'd love to hear from you tonight. We'd love to hear from any of you who have stories like that or or your own stories about COVID related crimes against humanity. And we also encourage everyone to also document your story at chbmp.org. An easier to remember URL for that is betrayalproject.org. So if you're listening to this, maybe on the recording, and, and you have a story to tell, please come to, the COVID Humanity Betrayal Memory Project and document your story with us. Jeremiah? Yeah. Very, very important that we get all the get all this we wanna bury them in stories so that they can't they can't deny or they can stop denying that that this is happening. I'm just you know, 1 of the importance I just something that happened today with, you know, Crystal Bull Bowles has been on many times to talk about HB 73 in Ohio and how, senator Hoffman has been kinda blocking it. And he's a Republican, and he's he's tabled it past the house, and then he tabled it for the for the senate. And, he put out a a Facebook post today, with a meeting with this nurses association, lobbyist group that he had met with that actually opposes that bill. Surprise. Surprise. Right? And the bill is very important. It it it protects the patient's right to have treatments that are used off label, like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, budesonide. Doctor, Bartlett testified on that bill and has gone on all the podcasts with them to talk about that. And then, so so it's it's the reason it's very important for these stories to get out is the the nurses, the, the lobbyist group of nurses, they're lobbying for themselves to have more rights, more, protections, and that type of thing, when they couldn't even do their job as the primary advocate for the patients to begin with. But they're they minimize this bill by saying, oh, it's named it's just it's the bill is all about 2 people who died of COVID in the hospital and feel like they didn't, and their family feels like they didn't get the right care. And it's it's certainly not. There's there's so many stories out there on CHVNP. They've many stories in Ohio. In fact, Ohio, by this by the statistics, was the eighth, ranked state in deaths in the hospital. They just from March of 20 20 to, me and Lisa Butler, we're looking at this today, March of 20 20 to March of 20 23, Ohio had 42000 just under 42000 people who died in hospitals getting the COVID protocol. So, and they were eighth ranked. So I can't tell you how important if could you imagine if even half of those people in Ohio stood up, told their stories, got involved, wrote their stories to the speaker. He would crap his pants. Like, it literally he's he's allowing a holocaust. So it's very important to tell your stories. They can't minimize it if everybody stands up together. So tell your story. Now, Jeremiah, sorry. You had your hand up and cut in. Do I have my hand up? You do to me, but I can see it. I could be seeing I could be seeing things because sometimes I see people with their hands up, and then they're like, I don't have my hand up. And I'm like, well, let me look on my side. I got kicked out of the space, and then I just came back. I don't think I pressed put my hand up. Yeah. I see it up too. You know, he's really just gotta get his stuff together. Go on. Yeah. I was gonna say Maya, I don't see it. So, I think we're 2 2 against 2 here. So Okay. That's it's all it's all even Steven then. I was gonna say I'm I'm making some progress in terms of engaging people in the discussion little by little. I mean, I I know I have to do a lot more, but I've seized opportunities to engage people in the conversation. And, you know, there was a coworker of my a new coworker of my fellow chess coach. We coach a large group out in, Jersey City every Thursday. And, you know, we mentioned I I think I mentioned this in the space yesterday, but, you know, the kids, they they just they're a little bit unruly. They're a little bit restless. They they don't settle down. And he mentioned, yeah, they're COVID kids, as in, you know, kids who were affected by the lockdown, etcetera. And, and I said, yeah. Don't get me started with all that stuff. He's like, oh, really? I said, yeah. I write articles about it. I have a radio show. He said, oh, really? That that's that's interesting. You know? And I you know? Based on that little opening I had, I I sent him, my last article. I sent him a link to the baseline. And, when I mentioned to him, I was like, yeah. You know, I really wasn't before all of this. I've become a full on anti vaxxer. He said, well, I have to I have to disagree with you about that. I said, look into it. Look into it. The gold standard books, the the seminal text of anti vaxx, ideology, turtles all the way down, solving illusions. This stuff is very well researched. It's a lot to consider. You should really look into it. There's a lot of things that you might not be aware of. For example, have you heard of the cutter event? You know? And that amazes me. Almost all the pro vaxxers, they're not familiar with the cutter event. That's major historical, you know, information that they should be aware of if they're gonna tout the polio vaccine and say what a marvel it was. Well, there was also a big industrial accident that went along with it, injured and killed a lot of people. So I I'm continually amazed that they like to gloss over this industrial accident that destroyed who knows how many lives and just act like the polio vaccine was just this marvelous thing, and it was just such a wonderful and good thing as though a lot of people weren't harmed in this industrial sort of, you know, 1 size fits all mass campaign of of that era. But then this absurd concept that you're gonna now use the polio vaccine, which, again, the history of that needs to be revisited. Yeah. But, nevertheless, you're gonna use the polio vaccine as a justification for injecting a child 82 different times before they're 18 years old. So because like, if 1 baseball team is good, every baseball team is a great championship team. Like, you can't say, oh, so every car is as good as a Ferrari? I mean, not to even give the polio vaccine that much credit, but that's basically the the philosophical basis on which they stand now. Oh, because of polio, we need to inject you with all kinds of crap. Yep. You got that right. It I feel such an emperor's got no clothes situation. It's amazing. It really like, it's really starting to to click for me that, wow, this is emperor's got no clothes to the highest degree. It really is. Soon as you start getting into any of the facts of what's going on, they have they don't have a leg to stand on. And that's why they move this constant onslaught of propaganda to keep people baited in to their narratives. That's why I think it's so important to get get your friends and loved ones to step away from the TV, step away from that mainstream media feed. And that that is gonna be the most impacting thing that will liberate you from those mindsets and allow you to see what's really going on because the truth is incontrovertible. It's only the propaganda that props up these fake structures. And it's, and it's so funny. Like, I'm so glad you mentioned the polio vaccine because that's the 1 that they always use. Oh, well, polio was there's we should do a spaces just on the history of polio and the vaccines and and the truth about it. I mean, there's so they wouldn't if they admitted the truth about it, they would never use that as an example again. So Misty, I am I'm so glad you decided to accept the mic and come up. I don't know if you're familiar with spaces, but, it looks like you're off mute. So just, just start talking whenever you're ready. Welcome. How are you doing tonight? Oh, I'm doing okay. I'm doing alright. Yeah. That was pretty bad with my mom. She, she had strokes previously, so she was housebound. And when she had that other stroke that she never left the hospital for, she just she had, like, a shut in syndrome before she went there. She was fine. We knew exactly what she meant. You know, when she told us she wanted something. So she was fine. She lived like that for 15 years. And so when she went to the hospital, they said she had a another stroke, but she looked the same to us. She talked to us the same. Like, she has a family with, my my sister and myself and my brother. And, so we went out to the hospital, and they said, oh, you can't come in the hospital unless you have a mask. And I I said, well, I can't wear a mask, you know, because I have anxiety. And they let me up the first time. And I was staying in my mom's room, and my brother and my sister were there. And, you know, they were all, like, wearing masks, like, good little people. Right? And mostly it was in my mom's room, and I was telling the nurse where where is she getting her water from? Like, where where is she getting something to drink? Because I've you know, usually, we give her more water than what she's been getting. And he said, well, we're just staying her off the water by mouth right now to see how she can swallow. I says, okay. Alright. I see that point for a few hours. I was, you know, getting them to check her swallow reflex, which is normal after a stroke. And had this 1 nurse there that was kinda nice. He was a guy. Right? And he was kinda like, oh, I see you can't wear a mask. That's okay. We know that's okay because you have anxiety. That's fine. And I'm, like, doing fine. And, I had to go home that night because it was late. And I went to come back the next day. And at the front, they changed the whole hospital protocol. They had this lineup with security and everything, and I'm like, oh, good lord. What is going on? And I I kind of wiggled my way in again. I kinda took the mask from the lady, and I, you know, sort of put it on not on my face, but I was holding it there. And they let me through. And then when I got to the elevator, I just like, I'm not I'm not putting this mask anywhere near my face. And I went up to my mom's floor. And I was in her room, and I said, so how are you mom? And I was talking to her, and it was it's kinda scary because when I talked to her, she said she's she was dry. I says, okay. And I called the nurse over, and it was evening. And he was giving her the sponge, and I'm like, that's really not enough water. And he goes, well, I'm I'm going off now, and I'll let this other lady take care. And lady goes, you have to have a mask on in here. I'm like, a mask? Why? I said, are you putting masks on all the people that are here too? Like, the patients and all the people that have had strokes, are you gonna put a mask? Oh, yes. We do. I'm, like, looking around. I don't see anybody with a mask. And, so they had my mom on morphine by then, and she was kind of, like, a little slower than usual, but she was okay still. And my brother and my sister came, and I said, we have to do something. She's not getting enough to eat. She's not getting nothing to drink. So they had a meeting. They had a meeting with all of us, and they tried to pass euthanasia on. Well, we don't think your mom's gonna have a good quality of life, so we would like to offer you euthanasia. And I'm like, what? No. And, my brother and my sister were kinda like, oh, okay. I guess not. I says, no way are you killing my mom. Like, no way are you killing my mom. But but anyway said that? They actually said they would like to offer you euthanasia, and they used that word? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Yep. Euthanasia. They call it made here in Canada. Wow. And they said, well, we think that'll be better for her. Right? And I says, no way will euthanasia have anything to do with my mom. Don't even ask us again. They were so mad. They were so mad. I said, why are you mad? Like, why? And I said, why? If I ask my mom, she does not wanna get killed because she's Catholic for 1. Right? So I went back to the room, and they said, well, we're not gonna let all of you guys because we were they were kinda letting all of us go in the room Like and, they said, well, we're only let 1 in at a time. Right? And the 1 nice nurse, he was off. I don't know whether he's put on the other floor or not because I didn't see him again. And, you know, it was pretty I don't know. Sorry. It's hard to talk about it. But, I was in my mom's room with my sister and my brother, and a bunch of nurses came in and said, well, you're gonna have to wear a mask. I said, here, give me that mask. And he said, okay. And they said, oh, good. And they left, and I didn't put a mask on, of course. And about 4 hours went by, and I told them I I went out in the hallway and it says, somebody has to come in here and and suction my mom out because she needs to get suctioned. And I kind of work in health care, but I never was a nurse. Never not never anything like that, but I was working in a as a health consultant. So I knew my mom needed to be suctioned, and I knew she needed some more drinks, like, some more fluid. And I said, you have to come and do that. And 5 nurses from down the hall in the nurse's station were staring my way. Right? And they didn't come. Nobody came. And then my brother and my sister had to go. And my sister had to go to work, and my brother had to go to sleep. And, next thing I knew, the CEO of the hospital was coming down, and he said, sorry, ma'am, but you're gonna have to wear a mask when you're visiting. Right? And I said, well, I can't wear a mask. There's exemptions. You know, I don't have to wear a mask. And he says, okay. We're gonna have to get security. Anyways, long story short, they dragged me out of the hospital, and they made it so that I wasn't allowed in the hospital any anymore. Like, not at all. So they banned me from the hospital. They banned me, and then my mom died that night. So, basically, they they ensured you couldn't be there because you were standing in the way of their plan to murder your mother. And so they got rid of you with mask mandates, and then they murdered her anyway against your wishes and against your mother's wishes. Yeah. Exactly. So I couldn't be there. And, you know, as I was getting, dragged out, I was telling my mom I love her, and it's probably gonna be the last time I'm gonna see her. Right? And, she was, like, trying to say, no. Don't go. But, you know, nothing I could do. I mean, I could've stayed there, I guess. I mean, I could've tried, but I've just been arrested or whatever. Right? So it wouldn't have been any point. I mean, I got dragged out anyways. And, that's terrible. And my sister and my brother agree that she was murdered, obviously, but nobody else stood up. You know, nobody else stood up. They were all, like, quiet, like little sheep in the corner with their masks on. It was pretty awful. And, you know, I like to I like to stand up for myself and for people. And when my kids were little, when I had little kids, I had my first kid, and I had the total hospital environment, the whole hospital experience having my birth child. And, almost died. That was, like, what, 50 almost 50 oh, 45 years ago. And, I just wanted to say that my first daughter had her first set of shots when she was a no. Not a year. About 8 months old. And my doctor said she has to have the shot because she'll die if she doesn't get the shot. And I'm like, okay. Yep. Fine. I didn't know anything about it really, but I was kinda suspicious. And she came home, and she just screamed for 2 days. Screamed for 2 days. And so I went back to the doctor on the third day, and I said, my daughter is just she won't eat. She won't do anything. She's just screaming. And I think she has encephalitis. And he goes, oh, no. She just had her baby shot. She'll be fine. And I'm like, what? So I went right to the hospital. What did the hospital do? Told me the same thing. Once they heard she had her shots, they've, like, ignored me. I'm like, oh my god. So I just, took her home, nursed her for a while longer, and, you know, kinda doubted myself a little bit. Like, maybe she's okay because after the third day, she was alright. And about 6 months later, I was taking her to the doctor, and I didn't know about wellness visits. Oh, stupid. But, doctors, oh, it's time for her shots. And I go, well, no. I I only want her to have 1 shot at a time because she screamed when she had the last 1. He was, oh, okay. I'll give her these 2 instead of, you know, the bunch of them. Right? And, he gave her the shots. I was kinda, like, doubting it, but he gave her the shots, and I took her home, and she didn't do anything. Just laid there. Didn't didn't cry, Didn't do anything. So I rushed her to the hospital. I said, something's wrong with my baby. Something's wrong with my baby. And they go, what's the matter? What happened? I said, I don't know. She she just had her shot, and now she's just sitting here. And they go, oh, she just had her shot. Oh, it's okay. She'll be alright. And I'm like, what? First, you guys told me she wasn't alright with the first 1. When she cried all the time, she'd be fine. And now you're telling me she's okay when she's sleeping and won't even wake up and respond to me. I'm like, you guys are crazy. So I went home, and I swore I'm never gonna get another needle for any of my kids again. And so when I had the second child, I was the first person in my town to have a midwife in the hospital. I won't tell you what hospital, but, anyways, I was the first person to have a midwife in the hospital. And she was actually working in the hospital at that time too, which is really on my benefit. Right? So all the nurses were kinda leaving me alone and just with this midwife. So the second child had no shots at all. Absolutely fine. My third child, no shots at all. She was fine. And when I went to a a wellness visit with them, just I just went 1 more time. And the doctor looked at me, he goes, all your kids will be dead before they're 5. And I'm like, pardon? Says, all your kids will be dead before the age of 5. You're crazy. And I he said, you shouldn't have any kids. And I said, okay. Went home. And when they all reached 5, I dressed them up, took them into the doctor's office, and go, here's my kids. They're all over 5. None of them are dead. And turned around and went out and never went back to the doctor. But, yeah, that was terrible. My first daughter is slightly autistic, but I put her on lots of cleanses, so she's pretty good. But she's married and she's working now, so she's good. But, my other 2 didn't have anything. But I'm sad to say, everybody in my family has got the COVID shot. My 2 daughters that never had any shots at all went for the one's a pharmacy tech and, one's with law enforcement, and they all got the shots. My my youngest 1 didn't wanna get it, but, you know, she had to keep her job, I guess, she thought. And, my other daughter snuck my husband off to get his shots. And for him, he can't walk anymore. He can barely walk. And his diabetes got, like, 4 times worse. So, yeah, I'm the only 1 around here that hasn't had the needle. So, anyways, thanks for listening to me. Wow. Those both of those stories were so horrendous. I'm so sorry that your family has been put through all this, but I'm so glad that you were able to see through it after that second set of shots and spare your other children. That that's so awful. Oh, god. Yeah. It's really striking when you say like, when you when you said they got they just got their shots. They were like, oh, no. The screaming for 2 days is perfectly normal. Or, oh, no. The laying there listless is perfectly normal if you just got the shots. As if they see that in numerous cases, and they've been told to just dismiss it as perfectly normal when, I mean, anyone anyone with 2 shreds of common sense knows that harming children is not normal in any world. Oh, yeah. I don't know. And Chelsea, I will take a fifth. You know, they will also deny the the the obvious, which is right in front of our face. She had 3 children. Only 1 got had those episodes happen. Only that 1 is on the autistic spectrum. Right? And so they'll go, oh, that's coincidence. Then they'll also say that, oh, well, it's coincidence that her husband diabetes got worse. It's coincidence that he can barely walk now. I mean, it it's amazing how they can just dismiss the obvious. Yeah. I know. It's terrible. When the ER people come to our house, because my husband falls down quite often, and, I said, so told the EMT. I says, how how are you finding diabetes cases in the last 3 years? And she goes, oh, we're getting so many. And I'm like, oh, you are. And my husband was listening because he's totally the opposite spectrum. Right? He's, like, totally pro vaxxed, whatever. And, he goes, oh, be quiet about the anti vaxx stuff. That's what he told them. And I'm like, why? I'm like, oh, jeez. He's he's 1 of the sheep. I'm really sorry to hear that. I have several of those in my family as well. I mean Oh, yeah. You cannot convince them, and they're living it. You cannot convince them what the truth is. I know. It's weird. It's It's like you feel like grabbing them by the neck and shaking them and go, hello. Wake up. But you can't. At least when you're when they were murdering your mother in the hospital, you had family who recognized that that was I mean, they made it quite apparent, but at least your family recognized that because we see many many people who are going through that or who have went through that, and their family refuse their entire family refuses to believe that these things are real, and then they're, you know, kind of compartmentalized and don't get any support, and it's horrible. Yes. It is horrible. Like, my I think my brother's totally traumatized by it because he's he tells me repeatedly, like, oh god. They murdered mom in the hospital because they wouldn't let him in either, near when she was gonna die. They didn't let anybody in. Like, nobody. Not even my sister's. Nothing. And then, you know, my sister, who was alive at that time, just passed away last year of terrible cancer. And she didn't get the shot, but she worked in a place where she was close to a lot of elderly people. And, Yeah. I think she probably got it from there. She's perfectly healthy. Like, really healthy person. Like, didn't wanna eat anything weird or, you know, that kind of stuff. Right? And she went to the hospital, said she had a sore back, but she never left. 30 days, she was dead. So kind of I don't know. I don't know what the world's coming to, really. If people don't wake up and see that they're giving things to people that are actually killing people all the time, I don't know what hope we have, really. And that all this is going on concurrent with a propaganda campaign about there's too many people on the planet, and wouldn't it be great if we could, without any without causing any suffering, eliminate most of the people from the face of the planet? These things taken together. I mean, there it's no coincidence. Absolutely. Well and there's no oh, I'm sorry. No. It's okay. I I, there's no coincidence either that you've got somebody from Canada, and and the story sounds the same as in America. You know, you have the police coming after you, throwing you out. You have, you know, a situation where nobody was allowed to to be in. I mean, it it's clearly a a globalist plan. Right? Because that was their goal is to to hit the world and hit it hard. And, you know, I I see that as, you know, their their end goal, right, to to bring us into submission, which is why it's so important. I'm so grateful that there are spaces like this where people can get out and talk because, you know, Misty, you're you're hitting the nail there. The the terrorism, that they instilled, they the and I don't want to be graphic, but but we have to say it. Those those loved ones were tortured, whether they were dehydrated, whether they were starved. I talked to a woman today who her father, they he, he had some dementia, but they said, oh, he's got aspiration. He he aspirates. And he's and he's starting to get a little pneumonia. Really? Did he have did he have pneumonia that was brought on by the COVID, or did he have pneumonia that was brought on by aspiration? So, you know, the he he you know, they couldn't keep the tube in. They kept getting plugged up. So they took the tube out and just decided that it would be best to let him starve. And then because he had some dementia, it was well, you know, that's that you know, you're done. You know, they they don't have, euthanasia, you know, programs here like they do in Canada, but we're really, really close. And, you know, that was their euthanasia program. And it's sad to see, but I I I think you brought up a valid point about the terror because that's 1 of the things that we're trying to get here in Oklahoma, with the, with the, with the, brief that we are sending to get civil, investigation criminal investigations and prosecution, but we're using RICO charges for for terrorism because it absolutely is. How many people were left with PTSD Oh, yeah. After all of that? For sure. And that they don't tell you I mean, they don't tell you, but, I mean, if you're a nurse, you know that if you give people morphine, morphine drips, they'll get lung like, fluid in the lungs. I mean, that's just a go to. Right? Yeah. And, I mean, if we And they were getting people up. Right? They weren't getting people up. They weren't sitting people in are you a nurse? A health consultant. Okay. That I'm sorry. I kinda I I was I was up taking care of the cats, so I missed just a little bit of it. But yeah. So, you know, you gotta you you know, people were supposed to get up and and supposed to move. You weren't supposed to lay in bed all day because of the risk of pneumonia. Right? Cough, deep breathe. Let's let's get some budesonide, but that wasn't what it was about. It was about, Yeah. It was about total total and complete control. Rip apart that patient and physician relationship. I'm so grateful there are people like you who are speaking out. And and, you know, I I commend you because in Canada, that's difficult. You guys are under a lot greater tyranny. Now I don't get me wrong. We've got the medical tyranny going on here. It's going on all around the world. But but you you guys, Trudeau, really did you guys dirty, quick, fast, and in a hurry. So I know there are patriots out there. I will, I will put a link to, a group that is in Canada, and maybe you guys can connect because they're up there fighting the fight. I'll I'll go find it and put it in the pill. Okay. Thank you very much. That'd be great. Yeah. And and, Michael, for you too to to join in, with them, I think, they have they have podcasters that go all around. I think there's some, not just in The United States, but I wanna say there was 1 who said he was, in Mexico. If I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong about that. But, anyhow, it's got a it's got a far reach. Awesome. And I would also ask you and, and anyone else with a story as horrific as you are or even at any level of horrific, if you were harmed by COVID policies, protocols, or mandates, we would love it if you could document your story with us at betrayalproject.org, c h b m p Org, and, and tell us what what happened. Get it on the on the record so we can share that information. And if you're interested in being connected with, the few media outlets who are covering those stories, we can, we can help connect you after you document your story with us. So I hope you'll do that. Gail, I was wondering if you might have anything to say, and then we'll go to Deborah. Deborah, how are you doing tonight? Good to see you on. Thank you. I've I was listening. I I just listened last night, and I've been listening. And and I've, actually, I've been kind of distracted, but I heard some of Misty's. It was Misty, wasn't it? I I heard some of Misty's. Gosh. I the I heard some of what Misty said. And when she's talking about her mother and them putting her I believe they put her on the So I just wanted to tell a little bit of my story. Some of you know it already, but, someone here may not. My mother, who was 90 years old, had some dementia. She was living with my sister, and, she she could remember all of us. I mean, she always recognized me. I would FaceTime my daughter and my granddaughters who lived out of state, and she always recognized them. But, she had fallen a couple times in the morning when she got out of bed, so my sister decided to call hospice in. Well, I wasn't objectionable to that because I thought hospice was going to help us with care for mother. And, suddenly, I found out that she was put on the death protocol. They were giving her morphine and Ativan. And, I was the only 1 that spoke up and said she doesn't need to be on this. Everybody else thought that she did. And 10 days later, she has, been dehydrated and starved to death. She didn't even look like the same woman. And she she went into a you know, she went to sleep, and it was given to her every hour and a half to keep her from waking up. And like I said, she starved and dehydrated to death. And then her funeral was 3 days later. She died on the December 18, my husband of 47 and a half years. And I went to we're at her funeral, and we got COVID there. And my husband, who was a Vietnam veteran and had been a Oklahoma City Firefighter for 25 years, Had his oxygen level got down to 56, and he had to go to the, hospital. And there, they, they murdered him. So he died exactly 20 days after my mother. So that's just a brief synopsis of it. All all of you that have had someone die in the hospital from the protocols knows exactly what we went through. The the, you know, the 25 commonalities, we had almost all of them. So I was not able to go in with him. In fact, I was threatened with being thrown into jail if I didn't leave the hospital waiting room. So he, I finally got into the hospital 6 days later, but by that time, they had done so much damage to him. He was, of course, on a ventilator, and they've done so much damage that you could tell he was septic, and, he died 3 days later. So I'm so sorry. Thank you. Was that you was that you, Misty? Yes. I'm sorry I'm sorry for your loss too. This is this is a horrible, this is a horrible way to meet wonderful people, but, we've all we've all become family to 1 another. I'm the, the vice chair for the former feds in Oklahoma. And, like Mick said earlier, we're we're trying to find more Oklahomans, especially, to, to come and give their stories and to be part of the of the legal proceedings that are going to be taken up by JJ Humphreys. So, thank you all for listening. I just wanted to get on and just briefly, tell our story. And if anybody has any questions, I'll be here. Thanks. Thank you, Deborah. It is so so horrifying that they did that. And in your case, they they didn't make it explicit and say we'd like to euthanize your loved 1 like they're doing in Canada. But it's it's no it's no different. Like, here in in America, Euthanasia is not technically legal. So they they give it a euphemism. They call it hospice. And hospice care, historically, has been you would expect it to be supportive, keep your loved 1 comfortable, and hopefully, you know, nurse them back to health so they can return to life. But what it's become is just a a funnel to to death. So I got I got a call today from somebody whose girlfriend is, the sister has medical power of attorney, and his girlfriend is obviously shot injured, from the COVID the COVID shot. And while she was in a rehabilitation facility, you know, they had agreed that she was not going to get any boosters, and they talked her into it when he wasn't there. And she just went downhill and downhill, and this has been going on for couple years now in and out of these facilities. And, a long story short, they convinced her to and her sister who is the I mean, they've been it's been his girlfriend for 15 years, but she had her sister as the durable power of attorney. This is so important, y'all. Make sure you have a durable power of attorney that will fight like hell and not just believe whatever the doctors say and blah blah blah because that's what this girl's sister is. So they were able to ban the boyfriend from coming in there because he was actually doing things to benefit her, and then got the, sister and the patient to agree to hospice care. And I guess they let him come in 1 more time, and she went on hospice care on Monday. By Wednesday, she couldn't speak, and she's just going downhill from there. And we've got some advocates that are working with him, but there's probably not a whole lot that he's gonna be able to do because now you can't switch the power of attorney because she's incoherent, and they're giving her all these drugs. They started giving her all these drugs, stopped giving her water, you know, all the things that, you know, that they so, yeah. So The death protocol. Yeah. Basically, yeah. Basically, it's you know? Sir so, you know, and it's interesting too because I get a lot of this crap from doctors and nurse nurses who say that they, I you know, you don't know how bad it was taking you know, we we risked our lives to take care of COVID patients, yada yada yada yada. But this is what I'm gonna say to those killers if they listen to this because often they do and then they harass us. I'm a survivor. I was on the inside. I know exactly what you nurses were doing. A lot of we have 72 survivors from different states that have come forward, and we know exactly what you nurses and doctors were doing. And if you hung the bags of remdesivir, you're not a nurse. You're a killer. Bottom line. If you did it in 2020, maybe you didn't know better. You know, shame on them for lying to you. But if you did it past December of 20 20, you knew you were killing people. And if you didn't know, it was your duty to find out, to to look into that freaking medicine to to your primary job as a nurse or well, as a nurse in particular, I'm a speak to the nurses. Your primary job is to be an advocate for your patients, to stand in between your your patient and harm. And most of y'all didn't do it. Some of you did very heroically, by the way. I know some that have done it very, very heroically, to the point of even sneaking in the right medicines and and telling their patients not to take remdesivir. We we have seen some angels of nurses in there. I had 1 angel of a nurse that took some actions that helped save my life. So, so there are good ones. But for most of you that wanna tell these victims that because this is the kind of crap we get. Oh, our did you take care of COVID patients? No. I was the victim. I was the 1 that you were, that nurses like you like these nurses that say this was the 1 that you guys were abusing. No water no water, no food when shit don't make sense, and a lot of stuff don't make sense. It was your job to question it, not to just goose step down the hallway with your friends to do a TikTok video or whatever it is that you were doing. So it's like, don't give me the crap about how hard it was, how you stripped down in your in your garage so that your kids wouldn't get sick because you damn well knew how viruses work because you went to school. You knew how viruses worked. You knew ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and all that crap, and budesonide was the key. You knew how easy COVID was to treat. You knew they weren't treating them in the ERs. Boy, it burns my ass when victims get messaged by these freaking nurses. So, and I and I'm saying this because somebody was just messaged by a nurse during this space. I hope you don't mind me exposing it, but Linda let's see. Linda Detrio. Linda Byorth, b y o r t h, and her last name is d e t r I o. If you if you're listening and you wanna come on up and I don't know. And More than likely, she's a paid speech troll and not actually a legitimate person at all. Probably not. Probably not. So But if you're real, don't be a coward. Don't hide. Yeah. You really believe what you believe? Come on. We'll we'll we'll talk to you because we wanna see we want to see if you have the to tell your lies right here against people who know the truth. When you when you see this stuff and when you hear it, we get it all the time. We get it on Twitter. We get it on Facebook. We get it all the time. Are you a medical professional? Are you you know, even my husband got that when I was in the hospital. The doctors were like, well, do you have a medical degree? And he was like, as a matter of fact, I do. And then they just shut the hell up. But But as if their medical degree can invalidate your personal experience and override that somehow. And they should if they are indeed a medical professional, then they should be receptive to hearing the stories of their patients and not just discussing them because they don't have a medical degree. That's right. And I'm and Well, let me just say this. As a nurse, I can tell you right now, things were not the same. The moment that the COVID bio weapon hit, it was like a change. It I'm not kidding. I I watched it go from 1 day, everything was fine. The next day, plexiglass was up. You were standing 6 feet apart. You were masking up. You were garbing up. There was no transition. Although, you know, I mean, in in the area that I was working in, we always had to use, you know, protective equipment. But, you know, those people didn't have an immune system. But it it became what I call the Stepford Wives moment. And the things that were done, patient rights, informed consent, all of that, don't don't talk don't talk to me. Don't talk to me about it because I saw the switch. So if somebody has something to say, I would love to talk to them as a nurse because I saw exactly the health care health care change from 2008 on. And let me tell you, it it wasn't getting prettier. It was getting worse. And I'll just come right out and say it. Diversity, equity, and inclusion killed. It it killed the education department. It killed and that disseminated down into everything. It disseminated into the health care. It descended into legal. It descended let's let's get real. It descended into the seminary. It descended everywhere. Yeah. And and it it actually it actually killed the critical thinking. It was almost like a switch. All they had to do was turn it on. And people went, I will do exactly what you tell me to do. I will not have critical thinking. I will follow a protocol. Did you take your vaccine? That's exactly it. Oh. Dear god. Wow. That's You got it. Somebody come in here. Help me with this patient. You've heard me tell the story about when, the first couple days I was there when the scan you know, they scan you like fruit now when you're in the hospital. Yeah. The scanner the scanning thing wasn't working. Right? And the nurse comes in. I had a fever. The nurse came in with Tylenol, with my Tylenol. And, she said, she the scanner wasn't working, and she's like, oh, I can't give it to you because the scanner is not working. I'm like, wait. It's right in your hand. Can you just, like, open the package and, like Oh. Like Like, maybe you could maybe you could keep the package and scan it for later because you wanna take care of the patient and the issue. Like, you know, they make these things or even, like, they're pencils or pens. You could even, like, write down that you gave it to me, and then, you know, like and she just, like, couldn't figure it out. She's like, no. The scanner's not working. I mean, that is how exactly Exactly. It just It's crazy. It it it was crazy. And let me just say this. To to hear stories and and to have worked in the ICU, and I and and so I I I could see the mentality. I could I could feel the way that mentality was because I saw it when I was working there. Right? Prior to COVID, there was a shift. There was a change going on. So, I mean, you know, it it's it just to kind of see that from the inside and to hear people say that they were tied down to their bed because they were actually doctor Gafonti helping, being an advocate to the person next to him who clearly had COVID that I mean, clearly had pneumonia that wasn't being treated. And he was actually helping this person, but you know what? You were getting out of line. And and and they needed to show you who had the power and control, so they strapped him down to the bed. In what world? I didn't In what world has been interview with somebody in Dallas. She didn't even know her husband was murdered until she got his medical records, and she read that, the first day in the ICU, he got up to leave. He wanted to leave because they were pushing remdesivir an event, and he didn't want it. I don't know. And they gave him he got up to leave. They had a struggle with him, and they gave him Ativan, put him in restraints, and gave him remdesivir and all the fixings and and killed him. And you would think you would freaking think that something like that would be enough, just enough to to file criminal charges or for the VA to take it, and it and they won't. And then they won't do you know what their excuse was, or or did they just hide where they're just cowards and id? They're just cowards. So they didn't even give an excuse. They just refused to to even look at it. Oh, right. That's exactly it. COVID. COVID. It's COVID. You know? It's COVID. You can't touch anything with COVID, and it's like that's such a bunch of cowards that deserve to go to the place that shall be unnamed. But, yeah, you know what I wanna say. But okay. Mhmm. I do know. Well, that's why we need to have this looked at. That's why we need to crack open the first hospital. Yeah. That's why The first 1 is the first 1. Right? Right? No. Totally. Because I think once they get in there and they really see and not not you know, listen, not the system investigating itself. I I truly believe RFK Junior. I I the other day when, they had the Georgia rally, oh, it was the young per it was the young lady who was here, who was at the Georgia rally is still here. And and, Tucker Carlson said the the the CEOs and and everybody at Pfizer are out there popping pills because they're scared to death that Robert Kennedy Robert Kennedy Junior is gonna get in there and get over FDA and CDC. Good. Yes. Get scared. Hey. You put put put some diapers on because you're gonna be pissing your pants. All the pharma, stock for antianxiety meds are gonna go through the rip because they're all gonna be going on them. Right. Yeah. Exactly. I I I think it's absolutely true, and they need to be scared. We need to have 1 hospital cracked open. I really believe if they get in there, not the system investigating itself. But but us investigating the system, real you know, people like Warner Mendenhall, people like, you know, the the, the former Feds Group Freedom Foundation, you know, people like myself who have looked at medical records and seriously know what to look for in those words. And we're gonna we're gonna find so much there. It's people are they are gonna start popping pills. I think we are gonna see anxiety meds. I think we're gonna see, a lot of people start to start to go overseas. I'm gonna make a plug, and I'm gonna look the extra I'm gonna make a plug here. This stuff does cost money to take on these hospitals and stuff, so I would say, you know, go to formerfedsgroup.org. Org will take you to former feds group where you can find the the link to donate to support Yeah. All of these various causes. And we would really appreciate anything anyone can do because we are running on a shoestring and running out, and there is so much to do. And we are taking on the most the most well funded malicious and powerful forces in the history of this very strange war. So That's right. And and you can you can go. You can donate. There's also, magnets, car magnets that you can purchase that have, a great message. It's just a question. You know, did your loved 1 die of COVID? Are you sure? Go to CHVMP.org. That helps the organization and kinda turns your car into a little billboard. And then Take a Stand merch has shirts. If you use the code freedom, then, you get 10% off and 10% goes to the org. On any purchases, we have a lot of good medical freedom shirts on there. What else do we have on the site? Well, or do we still have cookbooks or no? I think there are still some cookbooks. I just wanted to add to that the the link, for the the merch shop with the freedom code that automatically takes 10% off is at the bottom of the the donate page on formerfedsgroup.org. So you can find that there. And, and Gail's made some really, really fun shirts you can find there. That some of them are pretty ballsy, guys. Also, for anyone who might know someone who might want to support the next HALT Hospital homicide rally, Please direct people to halthospitalhomicide.com where you can see, our sponsor offerings and also take a look at the amazing quilt that Yvonne Chapman and Denise Fritter and many of the victims, collaborated on to put together. And it is it's just it's a brief breathtaking work of art. And, and if everything goes to plan, we will be raffling that, hopefully, at the next rally. So Yeah. At the next rally. So everybody always says, like, why do a rally do a health hospital rally in my state or whatever. It's great opportunity. If we can get the sponsors, we have Rally will travel. So we will we will put you on, you know, we'll put you on the team if you if you can help get sponsors because these things are expensive. We'll do it. We'll do the we'll we'll roll up our sleeves and do the work to get it done. So, I've rambled now because I got on my rampage about I I love your I love your rants and rambles. Yeah. Thank you. Because sometimes sometimes I see that you know, it's like Jeremiah was talking about earlier about ignorance. Right? Like, there'll be something so ignorant said to some 1 of our victims, it just gets me because I I we're very protective over the people who have been victimized in all this because not 1 damn 1 of us has to be part of this this freaking political Right. Scheme any of us wanted to be doing right now, but here we are. Right. Here we are. Here but here we are. Speaking of And, we were talking earlier about Harry Fisher's fish news. And, I did pin that up in the nest earlier in this space, but I would love for Harry to say a few words, about about that amazing victory and and tell us how that feels. Well done. I'll be speaking quick. I saw a couple of hands up, but thanks for inviting me on. And, hello, everybody. Yeah, you wouldn't you wouldn't believe it, but I've been able to be in a position now where I can give people actual informed consent. I went from, you know, being a outcast from the medical community to now not really being an outcast, but able to actually be in a position to to give people informed consent when in regards to the dangerous bioweapons or I'm sorry. The, the vaccines, whatever you wanna call them. Gene editing experiment is what it seems really was. But and now I can actually talk to people who just bring out you can't do it with, like, bias, so I can't go on and just be like like I'm talking to y'all. I gotta go, okay. Here's the here's the pamphlet. Have you ever read the pamphlet? Let's read it together. Your what did they tell you? I've I've been asking them, like, what did they tell you when you initially got your shots? Well, they told me I could get a sore arm. They told me that I could get a headache, maybe run a fever. Well, did they tell you that you could possibly die from these shots, that you could have heart problems, you know, heart heart complications for the rest of your life from myocarditis, pericarditis? And if you read here, it says from 12 year old to, I think it says 17 year old. It it it's it's then even harder. Oh, you're telling me my and I've had them actually say, you're telling me I gave something to my kids that could cause them to actually have our problems? I thought that was a conspiracy theory. These people truly didn't have con informed consent. And whenever you give them informed consent, it's it's like watching it's it's like watching the veil just just lift just so that you can see this whole, oh my gosh moment. And I'm thankful that that I'm able to do this now, but also it's a it's a little bit of a wait because you really see how much effect negative effect all the lives from the mainstream media had on people. And I truly hope at some point, what y'all are doing, what what all these groups like y'all is doing, it will actually come to fruition and and put a bunch of people in jail that really need to be there. A lot of these people that did this to our society need to be behind bars. But thank you, and I love you guys. I'm I gotta go on me for a little bit. Thank you so much for coming on and telling us about that, and congratulations. I think it's so awesome that you were able to stand your ground and and really make a a fundamental difference that could actually, you know, move forward and make that difference for everyone else who's working in that position. So, I'm so grateful for you and for all your efforts, Harry. Thank you so much. Can I ask you something, Harry, really quickly? Did they happen to by any chance and I don't I I know that you were, you know, working, like, PRN, but did they did they make it, like, a a policy change? Did they make it it a documented change? And forgive me if I missed that. Oh, he might be gone. Okay. Now it looks like he's still here, Terry. Can you can you hear me? He said he had to mute, so he might be taken care of. Yes. Yeah. He might have he might have had to he might have had to do some step in. That's a an interesting and important question that we'll be sure to ask him that the next time we we have him on. Yeah. It just it would make a difference too because then with that documentation, then you can disseminate that through that health care system. And and then, of course, it can be picked up as standard operating procedures for other health care industries. You know? I mean, nurses need to get out and spread that word. Those of us who are out there in health care, who are working, you know, or or doing whatever whatever in the health care profession. We need to be looking for those things and and getting on those, well, we used to have governance boards, and that made policy changes and, you know, get on up in it. I I'm afraid the critical care and, that patient centric care that I I cut my teeth on when I first became nursing, I'm afraid that's gone, which is why I'm my mantra now is is that we're either going to have to, you know, re if if if we can't, refocus the health care policies in the health care industry, we're gonna have to replace it, and I'll shut up. And that kind of brings us back to the important event going down in a couple weeks. So, you know, we know that the Maha movement is is making a lot of ground. And with RFK leading that initiative, I think we have more of a chance to actually see fundamental changes in these systems. And with any luck, also accountability because we know RFK knows what's going on. It's CHD, which is his initiative, which has documented all of your stories. Many of the same stories we've documented at CHBMP, CHD CHD has also documented, and we are so grateful for their efforts and for the movie they just put out earlier this year, really, just last month. And if you haven't seen that, go to vaxx3.org and check that out. It is it's really a game changer because it brings these things that have been relegated to the fringe of the discourse right out into the open, puts all of it you know, they tied the entire tale of COVID related crimes against humanity up in a neat little box and put a bow on it and put it out in theaters, and now it's streaming online. And it is just such a good if you're if you're just coming aware of all of these things, it's such a good primer to get you up to speed on what's happened and what's still going on in so many places. And it's powerful too. Right? I mean, we had, maybe 4 or 5 legislators at that movie. It's powerful. It made an impression. Yep. It really did. It was So Go ahead, Harry. Sorry. No. Was there a question? I'd so I overheard there was a question, and I had to put the headphones down for a moment. I'm terribly sorry. Yeah. Go ahead and repeat that, Mick. Oh, no problem, Harry. Hey. What I was wondering was when that decision was made and and congratulations on your victory, I know you were working PRN, but were did they make that a a policy change? Did they document that in in any way, shape, and form so that it could be moved on to other health care, you know, other, you know, like, put it in a standard of operating procedure policy and procedure for the hospital and move it on For for what they did with me or for for Yeah. Oh, no. I'm not. No. What I did is I just said, hey. Here's my because they they wanted me in this position, and they they needed a more full time person because I've been doing contracts. And I'm still a contractor, but they were like, can you please please work here? And I was like, sure. And then whenever I got here and doing all the roles, they basically said, but, hey. It's time to give the COVID shots. And I was like, hey. I'm not gonna be doing that. I prayed about it first, and then I open sourced the idea to everybody. If you look through my past, you're not you'll see I asked the question. And then I, prayed about it, thought about it, and just can't bring myself to give those even though I can't give informed consent now. And I just showed them my, religious exemption that I got at the first of all this saying, due to the fact that I've done CPR to Pfizer line, I can't in good conscience put this in anyone's body over in my body. Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, give to God what is God's. And they honored that exemption, that religious exemption, but also the people that I work with also would understand the ethical situation that I'm in and also don't wanna get involved whenever I do wanna give informed consent because they realize that informed consent is necessary. And I'm pretty sure this time, a lot of people, whenever they're confronted with that, that they they they know that, oh my god. We weren't giving informed consent, so they're not standing in my way. They're not writing a policy for me. They're just going, he's right. Maybe we should shut up and just let him tell people the truth. So that's pretty much where I'm at right now. So right now, you're the exception to the rule. What we have to do is make that the rule. That that would be amazing if we could. And that's why we need to get informed consent. I I I know that the policies are out there. It's the enforcement, and that's the issue. And so I don't I know that's probably coming from, you know, education. I I can tell you right now what they did. They handed out a sheet of paper. You do a a 6 month checkoff or whatever. Do you know if you they just have to do informed consent that you have to tell them about risks and benefits and that, you know, you have to, you know, list out everything and hand them resources. Yeah. Check the box and move on. It's that's it's the enforcement. Yeah. They they, now they've got it to where everything's QR code. So, like, on the, and when whenever people come in, there's 2 things 2 things on our wall that are QR codes, and they basically utilize their phone, and then they go through an informed consent digital informed consent, which is very small print on your phone, and it only tells you the main you know, your arm gets sore, and then it also lists, possible severe reactions, but it doesn't go into detail like, hey. It could possibly give you a stroke. It could possibly give you a heart attack. It doesn't really it just says possible severe reactions and sort of glosses over that really fast. And and the individual does that on their own and signs off consent via digital, and most of the people don't even go through more consent after that. I just as soon as they're done with their phone, I go ahead and have further additional communication with them basically saying, so you you know that this can't blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And thus far, like, the other day, I mean, someone wants You you mean actually give an informed consent? Yeah. Because informed consent is actually sitting down and talking to that person and ensuring they don't have questions. But, you know, dumb they've dumbed down everything. You know? They gotta make it quicker. Right? But in the process, they've really dumbed it down and missed the purpose of what informed consent is. %. So you're fine. No. You know, you're you're a % correct. And that's most people don't wanna go either they don't wanna go further into more detail about it or don't know to or they're still on team, you know, team they're team shots. So they're just so bought into the system, which I've got I've got a mixture of both for them currently, and I have a mixture of people that won't ever take it again. I have other people that are up there, like, number 6. So it's it's a good mix. But there's no like, whenever I talk about what I've experienced, even the ones that have taken their number 6, they don't say that didn't happen. They don't go, you're lying. They just go, now now literally what they say most of the time is anything can kill you. Anything can kill you. And I and I'll be like, well, they can mandate just anything. They mandated this thing that could kill you. How do you feel about that? And most of them have nothing to say to that. They they don't wanna talk about the mandates. So what you'll notice across the board is that's their, like, taboo talk topic because they know that was completely wrong, and they don't have a justification for that. You can't just you how do you justify tyranny? Right. And that's that's Exactly. That's what we experience. Yeah. Right on. Right on. The in the worst possible way. Right? Because, you know, they they went after you when you were weak and sick. And and and when your defenses were at the lowest and when you needed the help the most, that's when they that's when they took aim and they and they used and they went after their prey. And that's what pisses me off more than anything else, you know, is that, you know, in war, you know, right, you're geared up. You're ready. You're, you know, you you've got your battle, you know, helmet on, you know, your shield, all that good stuff. I know that's not how it is in war, but, you know, now. But but when you're sick, everything is down. And and and then they took away everybody and, you know, left you, naked and afraid on your own. Like we heard from so many people earlier, they they make pretext to get you out of if you're standing in the way of the euthanizing of your loved 1, then, oh, suddenly you need a mask to be in here. And if you won't wear that mask, you're getting dragged out forcibly, and then they're gonna move ahead and proceed to kill your loved 1 anyway. So really have to to not allow those those little things like the the mask mandates. You think, oh, well, it's just I just have to put this thing over my face for a few minutes. I'll go ahead and comply with that. But that that act of compliance paves the way for all of this other horrific stuff that they use as pretext to actually carry out what I believe is murder. I agree. And remember, they with what they've done with all that's occurred, they took away most of your out of the out of the box bankers from the medical field, from the police departments, from, you know, our DOJ, our, you know, our military. They they took they literally segregated and then tried to ostracize anyone that wasn't a complete toe the line, the tyranny person. And that's what you've gotta know going into the next 1 is, most of the people most of the people that are still in play are the are are the what are they? Brown shirt? Are the people that will follow orders even if they're the dumbest thing in the world? And you will you will need to watch your back on that because I am I am few, sadly. Like, there's few of me out there trying to actually put their face out there and say, hey. I'm not going to put up with this, this, this, this, and this. I'm praying that by me and the others on here doing it, there which there's I say I'm few in the the the realm of all of the medical community. But in this room right here, there's a lot. Like, I I love all y'all. But there's but we're still in the minority. Just know that because they're gonna try to do this again eventually, and they've already cleared the path for for tyranny to take hold. So just just watch your back and do a lot of lot of praying and stand your ground and expect to be, expect to be met with whole with force, probably. I mean, in all reality, I remember people getting kicked out of the ERs that I was working in because they wanted to go back with their kids. And they were saying, you can only have 1 parent at a time, and their kid was just really, really bad off. And I saw dads being held in the lobby because they just wanted to see their kids, and I'm just amazed at the amount of bad that was allowed to happen. Oh, yeah. And you're right. Like, you know, the like, on here, there's many but moral courage is in short supply, and we need more of that. I our our preset list last Sunday gave a hell of a homily about our duty, getting out there and voting and being part of the process and fighting evil even if we have to, you know when to be civilly disobedient, even even though you have to accept the consequences of that. And, you know, basically I mean well, basically, he said, even if you have to take the fight to the gates of hell, that's your JOB. Right? That's your job. So, it's it it's very it's difficult to to, for a lot of people to risk, you know, whatever it is that might happen if they speak out. I you know, typically, it's losing friends or family, which is not really all that big of a deal. Like, I mean, I say that, but, like, if if you lose friends, that's alright. Right? You'll make new friends. If you lose family members, they'll come around. But, but we have to be we have to be courageous. This there's never been a time before where so much was at stake. People are people died. People are still dying. These shots have destroyed so many. I mean, I I I can't even The shots and the protocols and the propaganda campaigns, all of those have destroyed families and destroyed lives. And still and still are. Like, the number of people I don't know. The number of people that are still dying is heartbreaking. The number of people I know that are it's heartbreaking. We need people to, like, stand up, put put your as hard as it is, put yourself aside, and tell your stories, get active. What is Mick always is like, get what do you what are you telling people all the time? Stand up. Speak out. Get involved. You know? Just freaking do it. Yeah. I agree. It's gonna it's gonna get it's gonna get more difficult. I mean, we're still losing people. I mean, it's consistent. Just just the other day, we we lost someone to a aortic, aneurysm. And, I mean, we're we're gonna keep losing people. To also, what I'm noticing is, you know, those anybody who's worked in a hospital or any anything medical, they send you those online tests you have to keep up with. You have to keep up with your online test. I hate those things. And now they don't focus on consent at all on like, I I was looking for, like, you know, the consent stuff, and that's very rare that they talk about anything consent. They put more focus on now, pronouns. Like, I had to take more tests on pronouns than I did over consent. Like, it's it's it's just blows my mind. Isn't it crazy? Like It's insane. I I hear you. You know, more more focus on pronouns than ethics even. Yes. Yeah. Every 6 months That's crazy. Every 6 months, we had to do training. And and I'm sure you did that too, Harry. You know, it's like, okay. Someone comes in and you're not sure of their gender. What do you do? Are you are are you kidding me with this? I think my first question is going to be, hi. How can I help you? I I don't know. It's just it's just a thought I'm gonna throw out. No. It's fine. It's fine. I kick them in the balls and see if they're still confused. Yeah. All this There's I think there was 1 question like that. There was 1 question that literally said, you know, it it also you really, really don't care about religion at all anymore. I don't like it. There was 1 that's that basically said, you might you might have to go ahead and take away their religious, exemption to work that day if the other people there's you know, basically, it was saying all whose whose exemption would you take away? And it was the person who had a religious exemption. So they're just trying to throw that away. So, eventually, all these places are going to not allow for religious extensions. That's coming. I mean, that's the writing's been on the wall for that. So times are gonna get pretty strange, y'all. It's it's it's already there. So either way, I love y'all. I'll shut up now, but thank you for letting me on. Sorry. Doctor David Martin. I think doctor David Martin did say that there were 68 68 pathogens ready to be released. Yep. And I think you're right, Harry, that 100%. I think you're right, Harry, that, it's it's wanting to take away all connections to God and things that are holy because, you know, if there's no higher authority, then there's no value in life or in or in your fellow human beings. You can certainly you can certainly euthanize people when there's no 1 to be accountable to for it. And that's exactly life is completely devalued. There is no higher authority in their minds. Therefore, you have no rights. And so Yeah. We're gonna have to stand up and say, absolutely not. This is we the we're not going to tolerate this. We we will value life, and we will stand for it and fight for it. Well, these people wouldn't advocate for themselves. Do you expect them to advocate for you? They literally said, hey. Take this experiment, and you're gonna lose your job. And instead of boldly standing up for themselves, they said, yes, I'm NASA, and they went to work. Do you think those people are gonna actually advocate for you when you come into the facility? Yeah. No. Absolutely not. Not gonna care about you. Nope. That's why you have to. You have to stand against each and every every person that puts themselves in that place to be the authority on all that is worthy, you know, because they want to say, well, you know, it's best. They just need to go on. Who are you? You aren't God. What in the world? Absolutely not. We have to stand against that agenda. It's a godless, evil agenda in my in my estimation. And that's just why it's it's been so imperative to remove God from the public square because if there is no if there is no God, there are no God given unalienable rights. And then, you know, there is no value for individuality, so there's no value for life. And that's the the shift that they've kind of tried to use the COVID so called emergency as pretext to to enforce without any debate, consensus, or, you know, they even banned us from from talking about it, which is not the way we're supposed to do things and not the way we've always done things in in our society. So it's it's really it's Yeah. I mean, I see John Baldwin's on. He's taking a break from making trouble and coming to join us. Hello. How are you? So I don't know if anybody's heard, or saw Kevin McKernan's speech from last Saturday. I did, John. Wasn't it amazing? Yeah. Yeah. He he was right after me. So if you heard mine, I say, hey, Kevin. There's a screen up here. You don't need to bring your laptop. That was the first part of my speech. John, I'm going to put my substack in there that's got Kevin's speech in there. So as you're talking about it, people can have a look. Okay. Great. Thursday before that, so only, like, 3 days before that, Kevin had completed the first round of of testing on a colon tumor that was a turbo cancer that killed the guy. He matched the genetic sequence of the tumor to the Pfizer vaccine. So you heard that right, and it is as big as as you think it is. It has to be repeated. More has to be done. But, not only there there's more to it than that also. Like, it can't be from anything else. The the cancer is from the Pfizer, but also the rate at which it multiplied is, like, 20 times normal human rate of of multiple multiplication, something like that. I'm probably getting it all wrong. You're good, Dawn. I've got it in the subset. They can read it. I actually put down all of the I actually quoted Kevin. So if anybody wants to have a look, you can actually see and hear what John is referring to. Yeah. That's great. I mean, it's just it is smoking gun evidence. You know? So I I I provide the the numbers of lymph node cancer at 4 times normal, 400 percent of normal in 2023. I haven't seen 24 numbers yet. 2022 was 258, 20 1 was double digit, like 70% increase or something like that. So it goes from 70% increase to 158% increase to 300% increase, and God knows what '24 is. And now that there's a a genetic link, that's that's huge. They they can't they can't hide from this forever, and people are generally more afraid of cancer than they are of, oh, the little boy died on the soccer field yesterday. It's like, it's weird. It's so well, you know, a lot of kids die on soccer fields, but when you tell them cancer, they they kinda, like, get scared. The other thing is on the November 14, I'll be on BSRF, and I I I said I can do that in 10 slides, and Steve said, oh, yeah. Come on the show and do it in 10 slides. So I'm gonna prove the vaccines are deadly in only 10 slides. Conclusive, not and I'm gonna show hardly any statistical evidence at all, and and then I'll get into a discussion of why statistics are are a shiny object red herring that everybody has been programmed into looking at when I have. I mean, I'm working on it now. I'll I'll read some to you if you want. Gary was 68, died 03/19/2021. Acute STEMI I'll I'll just read exactly what it says. Acute ST elevated myocardial infarction, less than 4 hours. Adverse reaction to COVID 19 vaccination, less than 4 hours. CDC and Minnesota path pathology reviews identified heart sections with multiple foci of full thickness myocardial hemorrhage and inflammatory cell infiltrate. Also, foci of inflammatory cell infiltrates in endothelium and epicardium, edematous epicardium, and it was coded with a y 5 9 dot 0 by the CDC. Another 1, Mary Anne was 90. Vaccine side effects, it says it right on their death record. I mean, I'm I'm giving evidence of and those are those are 2 that actually were coded by the CDC. But for every 2 I have coded, I have 10 that are not coded. So I have I'll be showing at least 23 deaths that expressly state the vaccine killed people, and only 6 of the 23 were coded. And when the CDC sent a message to, what's his name, Greg Piper from Just the News, they said we have no other deaths other than the 9 Janssen deaths. So they're freaking lying everybody that and then they're deleting vaccine as a cause of death from records. I don't and I'm showing the the deaths that do occur, and then I have the the CDC wonder database. There's 299 listed, y 5 90 deaths. 299. So they have almost 300 deaths in the database, and nobody nobody knows what y 5 90 is except for me and whoever listens to me. So I don't know if it if you guys care, but, this is I'm tired of all the scientists and all the statisticians. It's never gonna prove anything. But this is conclusive proof, and I'll I'll provide more than that. So November 14, look for that. It's a challenge. I'm gonna do it in 10 slides. That's wonderful, John. And for those of you who, aren't familiar, the CDC codes, are used to categorize basically what happened clinically in the death, and what they will do is just conveniently not code it appropriately so that then they can say, well, we don't have that. So it's all a statistical game that they are playing relative to the coding. But yet when you look at exactly the clinical data, John can literally see that there are many, many, many that are not coded correctly so they can play the little statistical game. But, Miriam, don't forget. It's an automatic software program at the CDC that reads these and Correct. So so that means somebody's been deleting them. Correct. That means yeah. So when the data is put in, it is automatically coded, but they are literally they must knowingly choose to manipulate the data. So they are as guilty as the day is long of purposefully and knowingly manipulating the data so that they can lie to the public and continue to promote this agenda. Absolutely. So John oh, I'm sorry. Oh, that that's quite alright. I was just gonna say, so so go and and watch VRSF, the presentation on the fourteenth, because this is extremely important. He's absolutely right. This is not. It cannot be refuted. It is 100% based on the clinical conditions of the of the cases that he has documented, and the only reason that people don't know is because they are knowingly manipulating the truth. John, I was just gonna ask you really quick. I know that a lot of times in and I know that, you know, different health care systems use different databases or whatever, but our platforms, you know, what whatever the correct term is. But, but, typically, when we deleted something, because it was a health care industry, it it had a, a tracking of that deletion. Do you do you have that? No. I I don't Are you able to find These aren't, so just for the audience, these aren't living people. These are all death records, and they're not so in hospitals, you'll have medical coders that code, and then the insurance companies kinda deal with those codes. That's how everything's tracked. That's for living people. Or or if they die, I mean, there's a hospital record of all the codes. But with the death records, the codes that are applied to death records are for for all the states that I have. They go to the CDC. The CDC runs it through a software that automatically applies the codes. As far as a database sorry. Let me just finish. As far as tracking changes to a database, I I would I would suspect that there is something like that at the CDC and at the state level. I don't have the changes. I just have the current 1. Whenever I get it, it's the current version. Gotcha. Thank you so much. I was just kind of wondering, trying to think in my head how how that might be tracked. Because you were said they said they were intentionally being deleted. So, you know, I'm just Yeah. It has to be there's only 2 choices. And I say intentionally deleted, but there's another choice. The other choice is that they the software doesn't do that particular 1, and so they they manually did the first 1 in Massachusetts and then did not do the next 9. They purposely and manually did the first 1 in Connecticut and didn't do the next 3. And they purposely and manually did 3 in Minnesota and didn't do 6. And so you would ask, well, if they're manually coding the first ones, why did they continue doing that? And it takes me, I don't know, 10 minutes to go through, 1,400,000 death records doing a search for v a c c I n and finding all the records. I mean, I'm 1 guy, and I don't work for them. And I'm not being paid for this, but we're paying them to do their jobs, especially when it's so important to track the effects of vaccines. In other words, they're purposely not looking at it. They're purposely hiding it, whether whether they're deleting them or they manually coded a few and then purposely didn't code the rest. Either way, it's intentional. Gotcha. Yeah. Thank you. That's in the the meaning I knew it was intentional immediately whenever the I was just trying to warn and they would delete your video. I kinda have a paramedic. I'm seeing people die after they they take this, and then suddenly they they intentionally delete you and intentionally call you a terrorist for trying to tell people what you saw. So, I mean, it's it's at this point, it should be obvious to everybody that that we have a big bad and they want you dead. Like, I I it's it's that obvious now. What sucks is it's just not that obvious to everybody yet, but I'm curious what it's gonna look like when everybody realizes what John's realized at this point, what I realized. Oh my god. There's people out there that not only don't care if you died, but they're pushing for it. That's that's a tough tough bill to swallow. Yeah. Harry, let me add to that. Not even add to. I'm just backing up on that, corroborate it. The the hardest part in doing this, especially meeting new people, is get I mean, we we've gone from we didn't go from a to z. We went a, b, c, d all the way through to z. And then you meet somebody, and you gotta go back to a, and you can't just jump to z because their minds freak out. And it's just so hard to bring them through a conversation because they keep asking all the questions that we had for I had all kinds of questions, and I solved each question along the way over over a few years. But, man, it's so hard to talk to new people and have them just look at you like you're crazy. It's like people wouldn't do that. Oh, I can't imagine everybody would be in on it. You can't tell me all the doctors and all the hospitals are in on it, and nobody came forward, and and everybody's trying to kill everybody. It's it's so hard to explain it all. Yeah. It really is. I mean, it's I and when I if I ever do try, I could I I mean, from when I try, I tend to lead off with something like yeah. I remember this 1 time I ran a call, and I was I was talking to him like this. I remember this 1 time I ran a call, and this lady was beat almost to death with a waffle ball bat, a plastic woofle ball bat, and the guy the her husband, who she thought loved him, beat her almost to death with a plastic bat. That kind of evil exists. And then I'll tend to let them talk, and then I'll go into oh, and then this 1 time I did CPR and a Pfizer line, tried to warn about it, and I was deleted. And since then, I've seen this, this, this, this, and this. And most people just don't even question that maybe someone in our system is just as bad as that guy that beat his wife with a woof of all bad. Because evil like that exists, and then I'll just let them contemplate that and just move on. Just plant that kind of seed. Yeah. That's really good. I, I generally try to explain the psychology behind it. It's like, no. Not everybody's evil. Everybody's an individual, and some people are coerced. Some people are, solicited into the behavior, and many of them are unknowing participants, where where you have hospitals just the administrators thinking they're just doing the right thing for the hospital by getting an extra $200,000 for a patient to put them on remdesivir just based on a positive COVID test. They don't know that the remdesivir might be killing their kidneys and everything that flows from that a month later. They're not kinda not tying it together. They're just they're just doing what they think is right in terms of the, med the medicaments that are, recommended by the NIH. Then then downstream from that, you have the doctors. They're told to, shut up, or they'll lose their they'll be reported to the board, and they'll have the board certification pulled. And so but then how do you get them to to go along with, prescribing something that might kill somebody? Well, he told them it's it's not killing everybody. Look at this paper. You give them an excuse. The research paper that shows that there's a 17 percent better out no. I think it was 11. It was an 11 percent better outcome of hospital stay. That's not death or anything. It's like they feel 11 percent better sometimes, whatever. That that was the remdesivir study back in, like, March, April, May of '20 '20. And that paper is good enough for doctors to feel okay about prescribing the medicine so they don't get a bunch of shit from their administrators because it's more convenient for them. If you look at the human behaviors, people will act in their own self interest, and the interest of the self interest of a doctor is to go about his daily job and not have to listen to the hospital administrator climbing up his back. And, yeah, so each each step of the way is a different excuse behavior, solicitation, coercion, and they all kinda work together to change the entire medical establishment, away from individually individual care to this 1 size fits all of, you know, remdesivir protocol. And that's how that's how it all happened. That that's how I explain it to people if they give me enough time. It it sometimes works, but, you know, like like, it's just a shock for people. Yeah. I mean, it's, don't you think, John, that it truly is they're capitalizing on on the human nature of wanting to take the path of least resistance, and it's a know which pressure point to apply each way, each step along the chain of players, if they know which pressure point to apply, they'll get each 1 in the chain of players to go along with the path of least resistance, which then brings the whole chain of people into compliance with what they want to get done. Yeah. Exactly. And it's, I see a hand there. We should I'll I'll I'll yield to a hand. That's flashback Lynn. Flashback Lynn. Yeah. I wasn't sure if I was, just seeing that hand as an artifact of Elon's unfinished business. But if you wanted to jump in there, flashback, go right ahead. Hi. The only thing that I wanted to add is the, the clinics that they have for long COVID or vaccine injury. They don't say vaccine injury. They say long COVID, but we know. The the the medication that they're providing is remdesivir and Paxlovid, which I think is I feel like they're trying to finish the job by by, you know Hold on. You're saying something that's new to me, and it's really important. What you're telling me that they're, when you say they, is it a hospital protocol for long COVID, many of whom are vaccinated? Yes. Wow. And, a friend of mine works, works at the hospital, and she told me about the clinic. And, you know, I wanted to schedule an appointment with them. And then all of a sudden, her whole attitude changed. She said, I never told you about that, and she just kinda turned away from me. And it took me it took me a a month to actually understand what she why why she did that. And that's the reason because that's what they were fighting. Can you get that can you get that protocol in writing for You know, better than that, I have it, I I attended the board I didn't attend, but I I watched it, the board of supervisors meeting, and that's what they said in the meeting. Yeah. But I can't well, unless you have it recorded. And it's It's it's it's Yeah. They would have had to have recorded it, wouldn't they? Yeah. It's on YouTube. Oh, it's on YouTube. Yeah. Can you get the can you put the link? Can you send me the link somehow? I'll I'll follow-up with you right now. I sure can. Alright. I just followed you so you can Flash Flashback. And may I ask at least what region of the country that is in? I don't think California. So it's a YouTube of a California hospital? Yes. Santa Clara County. Wow. I'm sorry. I missed what the protocol But but the hospital, the where they have the the and another lady that was in 1 of my groups, the the COVID vaccine injury group on Facebook, this lady, she in fact, she lives here in the same area, and, they put her on, Paxlovid. I think it was Paxlovid. And at first, she for the first 2 weeks, she said she felt great. She felt like her old self. And then all of a sudden, she wasn't on it, you know, for a while. And then when she came back on, she said she's suing them. That's insane. They put her on backslivered. Yeah. Yeah. I'm astounded by that. So what's I think what's happening is that the the vaxx injured person is testing positive for COVID, and they just go right into a COVID protocol. That's right. And they're trying to I I don't know. I think they're trying to cover up vaccine deaths. They're also putting employees on on, Paxlovid and Remdesivir. So I don't know. It makes me wonder. Do they know that, you know, that those 2 medications aren't good? I mean, I I that maybe question that. At first, I was thinking maybe they knew what was going on, but maybe they don't. That comes to the question of they, and I say this all the time. I mean, because everybody uses the pronoun they. There are individuals who know and look the other way. There are individuals who don't want any part of it and walk away and let somebody else deal with it in the hospital. I I think there are very few, but some who are ignorant about killing people, and they just do it. Mhmm. Yeah. Or they don't believe it. Yeah. I mean, I I do think there's a certain, you know, personality type out there that actually do enjoy the powerful feeling of control, having someone's life in their hands as they get to make the decision. I mean, there are those pathogenic personalities. I know 4 people that have that have passed because of the hospital pro protocols. Most of the ones that know now, that I've seen that I've talked to are the ones that won't take the shots and won't won't do any of it anyway, still working in the field. And the thing that I hear most of them say at this point is if you're dumb enough to do it, then you deserve what's coming to you. Most of them are so bitter at this point from the the BS that that the pro max crowd put them through that they really don't care about. If you're if you're they they truly say that. If you're dumb enough to do this to yourself, then go ahead and kill yourself. They they don't. They the ones and it's sad because I talked to them and I'm like, you shouldn't care. You can't you can't stop being empathetic. You can't. But then on the other foot, I also still as they told these people that they told us that we needed to be concentration camps and couldn't work anymore. They told us that we were nothing. So I get their resentment. It's just sad that we're just such a point, but point that a lot of people have broken their empathy. But a lot of, yeah, it is sad because a lot of people who are vax injured, shot injured, they didn't a lot of people didn't hold the I hate the unvaccinated view. They they did think that they were doing the right thing. You know, I have relatives. They just think they were doing the right thing. They believe their doctors. So I I have compassion for all of it, even the people who maybe did hate the unvaccinated, who did think that we were wrong, who got shot injured, and then are like, wow. I'm awake now. I don't care what time they wake up as long as they wake up, and and do some good with it. Right? And bonus points if they make amends to the 30 day alienated when they were misinformed. Right. Because they're you know, we're all human. We can be deceived, and we could be misinformed. The question is once you know the truth, are you going to stand up and make amends? And then beyond that, join the fight. If you do that, you know, who who am I to not, you know, lock arms with you and and and fight with you? However, if you know the truth and you keep pushing this, you're on the other side. You absolutely are on the other side. Goes for even the psychopaths that tried to kill me at Plano's medical city, like doctor Quach and William Fripp and those nurses and doctors. Those psychopaths, if they came to me or if I saw that they were shot injured, I'd give a damn briefly. No. I'm just kidding. I would give a damn. Yeah. I mean, if they came to you and they literally said, hey. I'm sorry. I wanna fight with you now. I was out of my mind, and now I see the truth. What better person to fight along beside you? Okay? But there are people that, you know, know the truth and still push this. And those people, you can't be locked. You they can't be part of your team. So Right. I agree. And that is so well said. I I really appreciate that because that that is that is exactly the truth because there's so many people who who had been conditioned, who had been soft pedaled in, and their eyes were closed. And they didn't want to believe it, or I had so many people come up to me and say, look. I don't wanna do this, but I I I gotta do it for the job. I've gotta keep you know, they had kids. They had whatever. They weren't tuned into politics. They weren't tuned in anything, but they felt coerced. You know? I I think that there were some nurses. Now the giving of remdesivir, I think there were there were a lot I would guarantee it. There were a lot of nurses. I'm not necessarily speaking for the doctors. I'm speaking for the nurses because it's 2 different it is 2 different, you know, types of of training there, definitely. So, you know, but but a lot of them did not know. I I really truly believe that. They they really thought that they were being the hero or whatever. Now the dancing and hopping around, I I that that was just that that that that I played back into the Stepford Wives, but I'm gonna shut up. I appreciate what you said, though. There's a whole bunch in a row here in Minnesota I'm encountering that it's, you know, unvaccinated by choice. It says that on the death record, and others are just unvaccinated, unvaccinated. There was a point of time you could follow as you look through all these records, the vaccine came out, and then if somebody died from COVID and they did weren't vaccinated, they went out of their way to write it. There there was a code that was going to be used. I haven't seen it used, but I think it was used, you know, that you you actually had a code unvaccinated. But it was I haven't seen it used. But, anyway, all the doctors are making a notation through a period of time, and then there's another point of time with the, the vaccinated breakthrough infections. Do you remember back in '21 when they were talking about, oh, there's been 1 breakthrough infection, you know, with this little corner of the world, 6 months into the vaccination, and then it was like, oh, there's another 1. They were trying to con you into believing there's, like, 1 or 2 out of, you know, a hundred million. And then they just you you just never heard that again because it was all the vaccinated who were getting COVID, and they couldn't hide it anymore. So they just stopped talking about it completely. Then they went to, well, it doesn't stop you from getting COVID. It just lowers the symptoms. You know, they went through that whole progression. I don't have to tell you guys. It's just such a con, the whole thing, and I don't I just don't understand the people who who buy into the bullshit. I I think I think a big part of it is they created such a atmosphere of fear. People wanted to believe, well, if it's not gonna totally protect me, at least it's gonna protect me a little because they wanted somebody else or something else to protect them. They want a pill, a shot, a thing, something to protect them from the fear that was created. Instead of taking agency for themselves and thinking and thinking beyond the fear, they they were just completely run by the fear. It's like, save me. Save me. Save me. And whoever purported to be able to save them, they would allow that goalpost to move as long as that goalpost would give them some kind of security. Have you ever seen my presentations where they I get into the there are 3 black slides. I usually have a white background, but 3 of my slides are black, and I go through about 60 different movies and 60 different TV shows in the last 60 years, all of them centered around pandemics and how everybody's been programmed to believe that pandemics happen so often and we have to have vaccines to stop, you know, the pandemics, otherwise we're all gonna die, And just the fear when you watch, especially the TV shows in the late fifties, the westerns, and you got, you know, typhoid fever and scarlet fever and yellow fever and anthrax and, what else, smallpox and polio. They they they hit all of them. You go through all those TV shows. This it's almost comical. Vaccination? It's a fraud, I tell you, a fraud. It's, episode 13 season 2 from the, Rawhide. Great episode. Watched the whole thing. It's so funny. In the end, everybody's lining up for the local doctor who took the cowpox shavings, and he puts a little slit in somebody's arm and kinda rubs it in, and they're vaccinated. So they're good. But in the middle, when you're And and it's always when there's already a outbreak and they vaccinate them, and suddenly everybody's well. Yeah. That's not how that's not how vaccination or vaccinology works. It's not even a skill. There there's 1 guy. He, so they they call it a pest house where they where they put everybody who's sick. You put them all in a pest house. And, you know, it's an armed guard. Not allowed to leave. But, anyway, when the guy dies and, like, well, he was he was vaccinated. Why did he die? Well, we we don't know how long it lasts. Sometimes, you know, might not last 7 years. He might have been vaccinated 7 years ago. The guy another guy says, 7 years, 7 months, 7 days. How do we know? And the doctor says, well, we we don't know how long it lasts, so you just have to keep getting vaccinated. No. That was 1959, that episode. Right. Exactly. And fear is such a powerful motivator. If you can convince people that they are in imminent danger, they will do almost anything. Almost, if not anything. Fear, Schmear. Yeah. I was gonna say no matter what they throw at us after after the experience of the last several years, we're not gonna be afraid of it no matter what. We'll approach it. Absolutely not. Well and what good does fear do anyway? It brings nothing to the table to save you. All it does is immobilize your thought processes and make you malleable to do whatever you're told. It will not ever save you. Keep your mind clear. Decide what actions you're going to take, but decide for yourself. Don't allow someone outside of your own immediate circle or outside of your own autonomy to make any decisions for you. Yep. And watch for that. If somebody's trying to make you afraid, if you get to the hospital and they say, oh, I'm sorry. You're gonna die because you didn't get these shots. You know, seek seek another opinion, and don't don't let them scare you with that into these horrendous protocols. Exactly. Exactly. And for the love of God, make sure your durable power of attorney is somebody with balls that will do what you want because we run into that all the time, like the 1 today. And I will tell you too. If somebody says to you and this is just kind of my snarky response now to people. You're going to die. I go, oh, really? Can you tell me what the next set of lottery numbers are then please do? Because I'd like to get rich. Thank you. My answer is always, day, it's inevitable, but nobody gets out of here alive. I mean, who do they think they are that they can predict future? But I but I always say I always say it when you know, I I was not afraid of dying of COVID. I was afraid of being killed in the hospital, murdered by the by the staff, and I I knew that was the reason I said I would not make my own decisions because of the gaslighting and the fear. And when they when he told me out of the blue I was gonna die and it was so random and crazy just because I was unvaccinated, that's the exact reason why I said I wouldn't even make a decision about an aspirin. It had to go through my husband because I knew my husband would be asked questions. He he was an ex nurse, and I knew he was tough, and he would never agree to anything that would harm me. I literally had to put my life in his hands. And it's really, you know, a testament to his wealth of experience and knowledge because he was in in the medical profession that he was able to to spot those inconsistencies and realize something was wrong and actually save you from that. Yeah. And that's why we cannot ever allow again a separation between the person who is sick or ill and their advocate. That can never happen again. And yeah. And we also have to make sure if they set up that trap again that we find ways to keep ourselves healthy to not require going to the hospital. Because once the trap is set, if you go back in there, you're separated from your advocate, and you are in a very precarious position at that point. This is not fear mongering. This is a statement of fact. So before the situation happens, you need to make sure that you do everything to make sure that you are kept healthy and that you are prepared because I believe that they will set this trap again. It yes. Yeah. Be prepared, not scared. Man, have all your medicine, all the medications you need. Have it ahead of time. I was just gonna say, you know, there's the the protocols and the vaccines, and these were used kind of in tandem with each other to facilitate the the fear and the the hysteria that allowed all of this to to go on too. So we've been talking a lot about protocols. Our next speaker lost her daughter to Pfizer. MJ, how are you doing tonight? You know, I'm I'm doing okay. Better than I have in a long time. Can you hear me okay? Yep. Can you hear you can hear me? Okay. Sorry. I'm out my husband has to work in the morning, so I'm outside by the chicken coop. So, it's a little noisy and it's raining, but I'm in the I'm not getting wet. But no. I I've my daughter died 18 months ago. It was 04/29/2023. She had just taken her fourth Pfizer shot. We did not have a good relationship, and we hadn't talked since before COVID. And so it's really hard. I have a lot of shame that I didn't I didn't try to save her. I warned everybody else, and she she was a nurse. And so I just I guess I just thought that she wouldn't take it. I I don't even know what I was thinking. But, she she did have a preexisting heart condition that she was diagnosed with when she was 11 years old. She had a very mild case of mitral valve, prolapse. It was just a little bit of a floppy heart valve. It was not anything that required treatment or medication. The pediatric cardiologist just wanted to recheck on her, every 3 or 4 years. And I got the records, from when she was 11 and when she was 14. And, you know, there there was nothing that indicated that she would have a shortened lifespan at all because of it. This is such a long story. I I just briefly, I left my ex husband in I'm sorry? I was no. Go ahead and take your time Okay. And and feel free. Okay. I left my ex husband in 1996. At the time, Britney was 3 and a half, and my son was only 8 months old. And, he put me through hell. He literally put me through hell. He kept me in court for 15 years, like, 15 solid years. We had 3 custody evaluations. Every time he he would try to take me back to court, he would ask for another custody evaluation. He would say, oh, circumstances have changed. And the I I don't even know. The the family court system is just as corrupt as the medical system. And they allowed him to abuse me. They oh gosh. This is just, I was actually diagnosed with PTSD, because of all of it. And I I told the counselor that I was like, no. That's that's I haven't been through any major trauma. And, you know, they said that, you know, being in chronic sorry. I'm a rooster. Being in a, you know, chronic and warlike situation, you know, that goes on for a long time has the same effect as an immediate, you know, major trauma. My ex husband, during during the third custody evaluation, he you know, I requested that they do psych evaluation. They oh, quiet, dude. Right. This time, I really feel really loud. Yeah. You're alright. Let's yeah. Let him let him crow. Let him crow. But so, anyway, so he was diagnosed with, narcissistic personality disorder. And if you know anything about narcissistic personality disorder and narcissistic rage, I I was the target of narcissistic rage for over 15 years. Anything that he could do I am so sorry. I am so sorry to hear that. Thank you. It is I I literally feel like I have been in war for 30 years. In 02/2009, he essentially bribed them to run away and go and live with him. They I it was right before school was supposed to start, and I had to work early. So I didn't go say goodbye to him or anything. You know, I wanted to let them sleep in since school was gonna be starting, and they were gonna have to start getting up early. And so, I I had gotten remarried. My husband, you know, he called me. He he said that he went to go wake up Britney, and she was gone. And then, you know, he was just telling me he was trying to find her, looking everywhere, and then he said he called me back and said he tried to go wake up Blake. Blake was gone. He tried to they ended up at at their dad's house. I guess their dad had $250,000 in cash, under his bed that he let them count, promised them that he would pay for their college, buy them cars when they turned 16. You know, and I was practically bankrupt from being in court. And for 15 15 years trying to defend myself. I was so tired from fighting for so long. I just I I can't even tell you guys how tired I am. After they ran away, I thought, okay. Maybe they just need a little bit of time. They'll see, you know, how their dad you know, that there's gonna be rules at their dad's house just like there is at mine. You know, they'll realize it was the same. I tried to see them a few times, and, you know, I would take them out to lunch or whatever. And then they would have their phones on the table recording our conversations so that he could use those conversations against me in court later. He did take me back to court again after they ran away so that he could try to get full custody of them. It took 15 years to get a judge who could see from the stack of papers and how tall our court case was. You know, he could that she could see what was going on. And then he made my daughter testify, and she would the judge was completely disgusted with how he was winking at her when she gave the right answers that he wanted, and he took away all of his parenting time and all of his parental rights. But it honestly, it didn't matter. I I tried to get them to come home that night. They wouldn't. So I had to go back to the judge. They had to get an order to get the police to assist in removing him from the house. It took 3 hours to get them into the car. My ex husband was out there in the driveway recording everything on his camcorder. I just I I went 5 years then without seeing them. After that, I I just couldn't I couldn't fight anymore. I just couldn't do it. I was so exhausted that it just destroyed me. So, I mean, basically, I've been grieving since 02/2009. I always thought that we would be able to reconnect. I you know, we we did see each other a few times At when my son graduated high school, they, you know, they invited me to to the graduation, and we went out for dinner, like, a week or so after that. And then, we have an annual family camping trip that, they did come to a couple of times, you know, and everything was fine. But the last 1, we had an ugly it it was an ugly discussion. The last thing that my daughter said to me was I'm perfectly happy to continue this estranged relationship that we have, And I was so hurt. I was so hurt that the I I don't even wanna repeat what I said. It was just I can't. I just can't. Then I I said said what I said, and then I got up and I walked away. And that's the last time that I talked to her. She was engaged to get married. They had been engaged for about 2 and a half years. He got her first shot in December of 20 20, since they were pushing it on the health care workers. She got her second shot the next month. When she, a year later, it was February, I think, 2021, she got her first booster. And then about 6 months later, her fiance took her to the emergency room. She had to have, I I don't see I don't even know exactly what happened. But she was having some problems, and they she had to wear a heart monitor for 2 weeks. And then, they had her, see cardiologist, and her appointment wasn't until March of 20 23. So that was, like, 4 months later. She, had gotten she got her fourth shot a week before her cardiologist appointment. I I just don't understand. I don't understand why she did it. I don't know why she thought she needed it. But she got it. So, I mean, it doesn't matter. Her cardiologist appointment was okay. I got those records. And, got her autopsy report and This this is something that was pretty crazy. The medical examiner called me, while they still had her, and they were he wanted to make sure that I had given permission for my daughter's eggs to be harvested. My ex husband's wife called the medical examiner saying that she was me and was giving permission for my daughter's eggs to be harvested. And it was the first time she had ever had a request like that. Go figure. I know that my I didn't actually think that she would ever wanna have kids after the childhood that she had. I did I did the best that I could in the circumstances, but I was a single mom. I had to work full time, plus I was constantly defending myself, and I was tired. It's just been I I just I just can't even there there's just not words to describe what I have been through. There's just not. I she, I I know that this is gonna sound crazy, but she told me after she died, she told me that Pfizer killed her When I was going through all of her stuff that I still had from her baby book and everything, I opened up a birthday card, and it was from her fourth birthday. And I opened up this magazine article clipping, and it was tucked inside and, folded up. And I opened it up, and it was just a clipping on how you can tell your child's height from when they're 3 years old that, you know, you calculate. And I looked at I flipped it over and I looked at the back, and it was an ad for Desitin, diaper ointment. And it said something about, you know, how how your skin your baby's skin should you know, is the first barrier to protect, you know, your baby, and and it was they had this big big Pfizer logo on the bottom. And my eyes were immediately drawn to it, and I knew she was trying to tell me that it was Pfizer that had killed her. And I know how crazy that sounds. And so and at that time, I her fiance won't really, respond to my messages. He believes the lies from, you know, her dad and stepmom. It's so I don't really have a lot of information, you know, about any kind of symptoms that she was having. And so it was it was, like, a month or so after she had died that I had found out. He he did tell me that she had just gotten her fourth shot. So it was about 6 weeks before she passed away that she had gotten it. But she died sitting at the table drinking a cup of tea, waiting for her fiance to get home from work. She had called him around 5 or 05:30. I don't remember exactly. And she, told him you know, she left him a message. She wasn't in any distress. She was waiting for him. You know, she said she was looking forward for him, to get home from work. And then he got home a little over 2 hours later, and she was sitting at the table still. She had been drinking a cup of tea. She had her phone, and she they concluded that she died of a semi cardiac arrest. It happened fast, obviously, because she didn't even she had her phone, and she didn't have time to call 911. I, but here's another thing that was kinda weird. There was a Pfizer, production plant that got taken out by a tornado, not this last summer, but the summer before. I don't know if you guys remember that. But, I was actually typing an email to, the producer of the dive suddenly documentary at at the time that that Pfizer plant was being taken out. I didn't think that they were gonna get back to me, and they did. But at that time, I was still planning on going. I got video in the background that started playing. You know, I was still planning on going back to work at that point, and so I didn't wanna cause any problems and have any bad publicity, because I'm a pharmacist. And I can't even tell you guys what I've seen just from being in the pharmacy. I it was just insane. But I just I just I don't know. I I'm just so disgusted with my profession. I am so disgusted with my coworkers who were so blind and couldn't see what was going on. There were a few that could see what was going on, and it wasn't that they didn't care. It was if they well, we can't, you know, change everybody's minds. You know, we can't save them. There is a couple that were just con just clueless. There was some I think this 1 pharmacist that I worked with. He I he was a nice guy and everything, but he, said that I was off my rocker for believing the things that I was believing. And in all honesty, I wanted to believe that he was right. You know, I as soon as these shots had started rolling out, I I wasn't even anti vaccine at that point. I, haven't gone down the rabbit hole, but I had a friend that told me, her child had been back soon injured. It was about a year or 2 before COVID. And so it was enough for me to not take any more vaccines, but I didn't really go down the rabbit hole until after COVID. And even then, when the vaccine you know, when they first started talking about the vaccine rolling out, I, you know, I thought it everything was more about control and the digital passports. I didn't realize that it was going to be harmful at that point. And then when it started rolling out and I was paying attention to what was going on in Europe, and I was seeing some stories of some health care workers really young, really young, dropping dead, and there was no explanation. And so I I was, you know, on high alert. All the red flags were there. And then I started seeing a couple of coincidences in patients in my pharmacy. And I had been in that pharmacy for almost 10 years. And it was so hard to see they were my second family. And so watching, you know, my second family dropping dead, getting cancer, turbo cancers, so many pulmonary embolisms, and, DVT, and a young woman that was I think she's only 40. And then there was just so many coincidences that they just weren't coincidences anymore. And, I mean, my I was fortunate that we were busy enough that we were staffed so that there was usually 2 pharmacies on at the same time. And so I didn't have to give very many of the vaccines. But every single time I would tell them, I tried so hard to tell them that it was still experimental. You know, there were side effects that, you know, we don't know about. I I tried so hard. I had I had 2 investigations from the board of pharmacy about my Facebook post being anti vaccine. And then when they came out with the bivalent booster, I I just was done. I was so done. But I was the primary, financial provider for my family, so I couldn't just quit. I cut down the part time, and then, I think it was it was a little over 6 months later when my daughter died. And I'm sorry. I'm, like, bouncing all over the place. It's just what what grief does to the brain, I believe, is similar to what trauma does to the brain. Oh, yeah. And and same as, you know, what fear does to the brain also. And it's disenfranchised grief. So, you know, I mean, just like what you're getting from your from people around you that don't believe you. Like, I'm literally gobsmacked that you had a a pharmacy inquiry because of your Facebook post. Mhmm. And and 2. December ones. Literally getting in trouble for Right. Yeah. For my free speech. Yeah. Yeah. And for having informed consent. That's, like, freaking crazy to me. Right. And, yeah, and then people were signing up for the appointments for the shots online. And so then they were saying don't even hand out the paper because they're they're they're looking at it online. Nobody was reading it. Nobody was reading it at all. And I tell you the first time that that somewhat a parent brought in their teenagers for the for their first shot, I literally sat on the floor in the pharmacy, and I cried for 20 minutes. You know, and and luckily, there was somebody else who could do it. But I just it just broke me. It just broke me. And watching all of the stuff that happened in COVID, it was just awful. It was a war zone. You know, there were so many kids being diagnosed with depression. And even in the very beginning, just a few months into it, I could tell there was an increase in antidepressants, anxiety medications, sleep medications. And then, you know, they started slamming the hydroxychloroquine, You know? And it's like, there's nothing wrong with hydroxychloroquine. Why do people not have the right to try this? You know? Everything about it was just so wrong, and people just couldn't even see it. I I am just I am just tired, I tell you. This is just I I I don't know. And and this this was kinda weird too. I you know, I'm in Washington state and, Joe Kent is running for office. And the other day, I got a text message that, Mike Johnson, speaker of the house, was gonna be in here, in the state, with him. And so I, well, I had quit my job along you know, I never basically went back to work after my daughter died. So I haven't had any income in a long time that's kinda put a little bit of pressure on my husband. But, I got that text message, and I decided to go. I had gone to 2 of his other things, that he had. And they were at you know, it was only it was, like, 20 minutes long, and they asked if, you know, if anybody had any questions, and I was right in front. I don't even know. I I swear God put me there in that spot to ask to be able to talk to them. And I told him that my daughter died from the vaccine. She was a nurse, and, you know, he was very kind. He said he was sorry, you know, and said that it is happening and that there's gonna be some hearings in Congress. And it's like, I want to be hopeful, but how many times have we had hearings in Congress and nobody has done anything? Right. Nothing. So, you know, I I want to be hopeful, but at the same time, it's it's really hard when we so many years, we just are watching them waste time and money. But then, you know, he I I don't even remember what he said, but then I told him that, I was censored on social media. I basically spent a year on Facebook jail. My original Twitter account was deleted. And Right. He actually acknowledged, yes, people are dying and, you know, and the censorship is happening. I was really actually kinda surprised that he acknowledged it. And I'm I'm not very tech savvy until putting together I I still have some clips that I'm probably gonna try to share. I'm just not very tech savvy at all. My husband says I'm electronically challenged. Mhmm. I I was looking for your story in our system, Melanie, and I don't see it. Have you documented your story with CHB? You know, I haven't. It's been it's been a struggle. I'm not gonna lie. We we have chickens, and and I've I I've got about 45 40 chickens. I don't even know how many there are in here. And so just trying to take care of the chickens and take care of of the gardening that we have. It's it's it's been a lot. And and like I said, I just I can't I can't sleep. I eating. I couldn't eat. I lost 30 pounds the first 3 months after my daughter died. My youngest son is 18. He's still at home, so I'm taking care of him. I mean, luckily, you know, he's mostly self sufficient. So, I mean, it hasn't been I I can't imagine people who have lost their kids and still have young kids to take care of because I tell you what, it it just the is it it's brutal. This is just brutal. You know? I mean, just complicated by the fact that there's so much guilt from the way that our relationship was. It is it's it has just completely broken me. I I can't lie. But I do think that God put me in that spot to talk to him, to talk to Mike Johnson. But, you know, he he addressed my questions. He said that I wasn't a conspiracy theorist. So I guess that does kinda give me a little bit of hope. But yeah. I I mean, yeah, just trying to I I hope you will put I hope you will put your story in and and do an interview and join our support groups and things like that because I think it will help to have just those other people who understand and have been where you are to, you know, just share the those things and the I think it's just the the relationship that we had. I mean, you know, I've tried listening to, like, different, you know, groups and stuff, and and they all talk about how wonderful their kids were. And it's like, I don't even know who my daughter was. I don't know who she grew up to be. I know that she was just like me. She was stubborn. She was she's so stubborn. Parental alienation is a is a real is a real I mean, it's a Right. I didn't even know it had a name until a couple years ago. But that kinda helped me feel a little bit more a little less crazy when you can actually name something. Yeah. Then you know you're did it it's happened to enough people that it it has a name, and it it's not just me. It's yeah. I just I'm just tired, and I just I I will and I've been meaning to I don't even know. My brain is so forgetful that if I don't have it written down right in front of me, in 2 minutes, I will forget it. Mhmm. That's 1 of the reasons why I haven't gone back to work yet too. I mean, because even if I wanted to go back, I I don't I I don't I would make a mistake. You get interrupted a million times trying to fill 1 prescription. Mhmm. And I would make a mistake, and I would end up hurting somebody. And I can't allow myself to do that. Well, we're here every Saturday night, and I, I hope you'll, you know, attend when you can and Yeah. Speak when you feel like you need to. I'm I'm so sorry about your daughter, and I'm I'm sorry. Actually, this is crazy too. You know? My oldest son was diagnosed with Asperger's Mhmm. You know, which is a form of autism. And, that was when he was in first grade. So I think that was back around 02/2001, '2 thousand '2. So it it was obviously, you know, right after he got school vaccines. And I remember hearing about a doctor who was saying that vaccines were causing autism, but me and my, indoctrination education, you know, no there's no way. That's it's genetic. There's there's no way it's causing problems. Yeah. And so then, you know, and I attribute his behaviors. Many of us were like that, and we're like, just get you know, like, I I if I if I knew what I back when I when my daughter was little if I knew then or, yeah, then what I know now, she never woulda had 1, you know Mhmm. I But we were all kinda that way. Right. You know? I mean, I can remember getting flu shots and and doing whatever. I didn't really kind of question, but then as I started seeing things going, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I mean, you know, we had h 1 n 1, and and and we basically really did nothing for it. You know? I mean, it it just you know? And and we were kind of, having a a massive freak out over COVID, but it just none of it made sense. None of it did. None of it at all. I, I don't remember what I was even gonna just say. A brief brain. I'm so sorry. I think I think missing snowman, might have some some comforting words or some insights for you. He also well, I'll let him tell his story. Go ahead, missing snowman. Okay. Hey, missus Snowman. Hi. Yes. Thank you for having me. I joined late, but I heard, I I think, most of Melanie's story. Yeah. It reminds me so much of, AA, which I haven't been attending, but I've not been drinking. So there's that. You hear other people's stories, and you're thinking, oh, I've got something to say about that. Oh, I've got something to say about that. Oh, I've got something to say about that. And 1 of the rules in AA, I'll try not to talk about AA too much. That's not why we're here. But it's, not cross sharing because, of course, it can be patronizing and misconstruing other people's words. Plus, also, there's the natural desire to say helpful things. I'll try and keep it as generic because these stories are all highly personal. And grief is a very personal experience. Like anybody's rock bottom in AA, people walk through that door for many various reasons. But, usually, it's, you know, the sick and tired of being sick and tired. There there are similarities and so on. And the whole process of, the bridge to normal living and reading the blue book, which I never do, never have done, really, I prefer all the zen and, man, I'm so tired. It's, what, 4 38 AM here. And my sleep's crazy. And you'll you'll witness it where you are witnessing it right now. It's the sort of the scattered brain from all the PTSD. I'll get into the details of Oliver shortly. But, well, I'll just try and keep the stream of consciousness going. I've essentially disconnected from the world and from most things COVID, really, give myself a breather. We had the inquest last December. That was a shocking miscarriage of justice, more perjury from the judges and doctors. And a lot of the fight was taken out of me, knowing that the fight will always be there and I can always go back to it because all of us now safely buried. We're rebuilding, our our life, and that's, you know, ticking over slowly. And I think, like a lot of seeing the storm coming when COVID was coming and having all the various thoughts and being a natural cynic and conspiracy theorist about that, I had a great advantage over a great many people, having the heads up for that. So I was arguably better prepared. But with Oliver, we always took every decision and certainly every medical decision on its own merits. So even with all my sort of cognitive bias and what have you, I still researched the vaccine to see if if it would have any benefits for him, you know, because he couldn't being like a baby, not even being able to roll over or talk, even though he was 20 when he passed, or 21, in fact. We were used to having to make every decision for him. And there was always that umbilical cord, between us and especially between him and his mom, who had to you know, if he was upset for any reason. And he would be easily upset if you can imagine almost being deaf, dumb, and blanket like the like Tommy from the Who opera. In a in a nutshell, that was Oliver. He could express happiness, a great joy, living in the moment and, hearing, his grandmother sneeze or rustle a bag of crisps. Tremendous joy would spew forth from this, you know, just pure soul. So, I mean, he was born with congenital brain damage, a very serious, hole in his brain, the size of his fist in his right hemisphere and the damaged corpus callosum and all the the crazy prognosis that follows from such, a catastrophic brain injury. It was a stroke in utero. It was the is the predominant, knowledge of that. So what am I trying to say? Well, it's like when we had Emily. She's about 19 older than Oliver. And, when they're young and she was, what 1 of my bosses in Australia called a sucker baby. You know, we took her into the office 1 day when she was just I don't know how many weeks old. And he said, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a sucker, baby. You know? She'll suck you into having another 1. And that 1 probably won't be so calm. You know? Yeah. Life is random, isn't it? But, she's always been very easy. But what was the what was the train of thought there? That's gone for now. But 19 older. Yes. So when she was a young and angelic toddler and there is that time, I think, hopefully, every parent has where they don't want their kids to grow up, you're enjoying being the center of their world so much and seeing the world through their eyes and their innocence. And, yeah, you look back and, yeah, it's 1 of the happiest times of your life. Most people say the greatest day of their life is when their kids are born. Yeah. For me, that wasn't really it. It was certainly life changing and suddenly, you're responsible for another soul and that you've brought into the world. But, a bit like grief in a sense, it's such a new experience. It it's It's not necessarily the happiest day of your life. It's just, things have stepped up a year and you know you've got to step up. And so there's all that anticipation and maybe even dread. But then the first smile, the first walk, when they start to exhibit a personality, I find that extremely joyful. And and then our wish came true with Oliver because he never did grow up. That was 1 of the blessings of having such a severely handicapped child with all the the challenges that faces. I'm not trying to sugarcoat it by any means. Melanie talked about the sheer exhaustion, and, I have experience of that. Mostly, I was exhausted too from for long, long time, but and for different reasons, clearly, at this point in the in the story. But, witnessing the exhaustion of his mother, and yet she would continue for the night you know, the night feeds went for years. I mean, right up until he left home at 18. She would sleep with him, and to say it crippled her her shoulder is is is aching it too much. But, you know, that always having to cradle his head because of the spasticity and the spasms, but he would be relaxed if his head was bent forward with chin down. That could relax the spasms and help his breathing and so on. And it was nigh on impossible to replicate that with a pillow, but with a hand or the crook of an elbow. Fortunately, in this regard, Oliver was, very low weight, which isn't so uncommon with, such severe spasticity. The growth chart is not 1 for normal mortals, But that's another, aside and tangent about the doctors and their misunderstanding of what is common sense. You know? Oh, you're not feeding him enough. You're not you you've got to get this. You've got to get the high calorie. What are you feeding him? Well, how how do you know how many calories are in there? And it's like, well, what did you eat for breakfast? What did you eat for lunch? What did you eat for dinner? Do you know how many calories were in there? Oliver has 3 meals a day. It's organic blended food. But Robin itemized every menu, every ingredient, all the detail, all you know, knew far more than the nutritionist who's, I don't know, gone on a weekend course, was supposedly qualified, in the diabetics diet and so on, and yet she was recommending a a 50% glucose formula. I told you this would be a random stream of consciousness, but it's it's really the only way I can, talk certainly, publicly. It's 1 of the the things my wife and I, 1 of the great bonds that we have, is having lived through all this. We don't have to remember everything. We don't have to explain every thought, every nuance, because even before all the the trauma of the COVID and the court case and everything there, I'll get into that for people that, are not familiar with Oliver's story. But, Yeah. My, my brain's fractured. When I, when I hear myself speak out loud, it's like, Christ, I sound like a lunatic, you know, all over the place. It's, it's quite, it's difficult to get the story coherent in a in a in a fashion that can be understood. I mean, our own families don't understand it. Robin recently went back to Australia, to sort out her mother's estate who she passed away, and that that wasn't such sad passing. She was very elderly, and, she'd been quite sick for a number of years. And she was fully jabbed, and, clearly, that wouldn't have helped. But, anyway, so she's in Australia, and she's with her girlfriends from high school and university days. They're still moderately close, but far less so of of COVID because these are all professional, quite successful married couples, most of them. You know, doctors, mining engineers, partners in business. You know you know how it goes. And there there was a time we we were actually separated for about 7 or 8 years. It went quite fast. But it was 1 of those very rare, very civilized separations. We would still walk the dogs together and speak almost daily, and it was a very friendly, albeit the tensions that leave any married couple to split up. You know, unpleasant things get said, unpleasant actions are done. It takes 2 to tango. But when, Melanie, mentioned narcissistic rage, I had that. I w I was there. And, for many years, I didn't understand where this rage was coming from and it wasn't all narcissism, but yeah, that, that was definitely part of it. And I I won't talk about that too much more, but it's it's it's, you know, the part of that guilt and the missed opportunities, to do the right thing. Yeah. There there comes a time when there's there's a reckoning for that, and you have to account for it. And it's, well, it's it's part of being human, isn't it? It's it's very humbling, and it's it's not something that's particularly easy to talk about. But I this it's important to talk about that kind of thing occasionally. But, anyway, so her friends are like, why why why are you back together, and why is he living with you? And, you know, it's sort of the unspoken words, really, you'd done so well to get away. You know? And her response to that was, he's the only 1 that understands, you know, when I talk about all of her, I don't need to explain any of my emotional rollercoaster to, to, to me, her husband, because he gets it. He gets the doctors that were useless, even when they were trying their best. You know, some were better than others, of course. But the even the family don't understand really why we were so against the forced vaccination, that they tried to do. Oliver died unvaccinated for COVID. But the court case impacted on our ability to care for him even though he was in care. But we were still advocating for him for all these medical decisions. But there almost were no medical decisions. Nothing did happen for 2 years because of the transition to adult services. I don't know what it's like in America and I'll try and keep this tangent short. But, for special needs children, so few who are severely damaged get into adulthood. So the adult, consultants are quite inexperienced at dealing with a lot of this. And, this is extremely pertinent to, the COVID years as I'll call them. Because now doctors are seeing, all these formerly rare diseases, you know, all the neurological side effects, the POTS syndrome, which, you know, is really dysautonomia, which is a huge umbrella term. If you actually start researching dysautonomia, it almost overlaps any illness. The side effects, the symptoms, the drugs, it's almost the linchpin because it's the brain. And, when the immune system goes wrong, when, when human body starts to break down and you get onto that medical treadmill of protocols and, you know, all the rest of it, The similarities and the overlap, it's it's 1 ginormous, very complex Venn diagram. And, you start to appreciate it. Obviously, being a a senior consultant is not an easy profession and the cult of specialization that they've all fallen into. So they're not talking to 1 another. So the cardiacs have got no knowledge of neurology, the pediatric specialists, and more pertinently to Oliver when it came to the inquest in particular. And you start to realize the limitations of the heads of ER, ER, the heads of ICU. They they pretend that they're expert at everything, and and then they'll admit that they're not. And then when you get them on the witness stand and then they're pontificating about dysautonomia and, dystonia. And, it was our well, it is our extremely firm belief based on phenomenal amount of research that, he died from a dystonic respiratory crisis where he was having a dystonic, storm. And that's a very emotive term to a doctor because they hear dystonic storm, and and you look that up. And 99 percent of anything written about it is the the worst case, like, like an epileptic fit that doesn't stop for more than half an hour is, forget the actual Latin for it. It's epilepticus status or something. Yeah. It's, it's status it's status epilepticus. Yes. That's right. Yeah. So, you know, just the prolonged seizure. And so there is a status, dystonicus, which is the full blown hurricane dystonic storm. But it's a spectrum, and it's ramping up. So it's the autonomic, forget the precise term. But, you know, disturbance to the autonomic system that can get progressively worse or you can recover it. And Oliver being very sensitive, you know, he can have a seizure with, somebody's strong perfume or too much noise or if he hadn't slept. And and these things can pound on 1 another, so keeping him on an even keel was Robin's life's work. And she was extremely good at it, not perfect at it because, you know, random things come in and would unsettle in. But he we always maintained he was robust when in balance, and he could actually sail through some very bad flus. And we were trying to argue this to the judge. You know, it's like we know how, bad flu. We we know the course of progression and escalation and the treatment. This is a known quantity for us. We're not saying it's not serious. We're not saying it's not life threatening. But he survived it more than once before. We're confident he's while he's has ongoing issues, he's suffering, excess medication from these very dangerous black box meds. He was on 4 of them with their synergistic, known dangers of causing respiratory failure. He's experiencing intermittent, severe adverse reactions to being overdosed on these meds. It is an overdose because he's lost 10% of his body weight whilst in care, and nobody's doing a damn thing about it. We're more concerned at this because we know we can see he's on a razor's edge here, and you don't know what you're dealing with. We've tried to explain it in layman's terms. We've tried to explain it in the medical terms. And this is I mean, it's traumatic talking about it because the fight man, I get yeah. It's trauma you're listening to now because the the court case trying to put that into our witness statement so it could be understood, and they didn't even fucking read it. I only read it, and certainly the lawyers we were up against, and we had to fight 2 councils. 1 who was, in name only representing all of us, interests. And 1 representing the NHS, our health service interests. So I was cross examined by 2 barristers, whose only interest was making me look like a conspiracy nut. Robin didn't even take the stand under oath. She managed to say some things to the judge. But what got reported and even put into the judgment was, a misunderstanding of her religion to belittle her and to demean it publicly. They she was brought up a Christian Scientist, but it was recorded for all time for that first judgment as being, a Scientologist, which carries a whole other load of negative connotations. And of course, that's what lawyers do. I mean, that's what a good lawyer does, is they belittle and demean and defame the whoever they're arguing against to undermine their argument. They're not interested in the truth. They certainly weren't interested in Oliver. They weren't interested in his welfare or the you know, his health. They pretended they were. Oh, you know, the first question out of their mouth was, do you believe we're here today with Oliver's best interests in heart? And I said, well, I I believe you believe that, but I don't you're not qualified to know what his best interests are. You've never met him. You're not even the doctors aren't expert in his medical condition. You don't know jack shit, essentially, what I was trying to say. But here's part of the trauma. You you can't say it as bluntly as that. Oh, I wish I had done. But, you know, you're trying to carry favor with the judge. You're trying to be reasonable. You're trying to be diplomatic. But all the time, you're fighting for your son's life. And it was a desperate, desperate fight that went on for well, it went on for years, really, because it was the same fight we had when he was in care, but the the court case dragged on and on and on. The threat of it even before it happened was just, you know so as soon as realized they were facts well, as soon as the vaccine was announced, I knew it was going to be a fight to the death, essentially. And then when the the doctor had him on the list early right at the start, because certainly in England, it was, very public domain knowledge, not that the public were aware of it. But we have the green book, which is, the MHRA. So that's the Medical Health Regulation Authority equivalent to the FDA for pharmaceuticals. They approved the drugs. It's they published this green book, which is all about vaccination and immunization. And chapter 14 a was everything COVID. And all it really is, at the end of the day, is a checklist to see, do we recommend you take this vaccine? And most people would just go down. Am I, do I have to take it now? And it was republished, irregularly, but almost every month, it would be updated. But all it was was a blueprint to see who got in the boxcar first. So it was the over I take this with a pinch of salt, but, essentially, it was like the over 8 is were number 1. Severe damaged, children like Oliver were number 2, essentially, to put it very crudely, and so on and so forth until you got to, like, the over 50s. And they were then and then when they get the vaccines and all the sick people have protected, then we'll, you know, maybe if it's still a threat, it will be everybody else. But, you know, this guide and the various situations of it, we're essentially recommending everybody get vaccinated. Nobody had, exclusion. I forget the official term exemption. To the degree we all know, even people who had anaphylactic shock in the first dose, they would still recommend the second dose. And doctors were still getting struck off, I think, even in Australia for for writing letters saying this person should not have the vaccine. They've already suffered severe adverse reactions from the first dose. And, you know, it became, a witch hunt, of course, for all the doctors and anybody trying to get an exemption. And, of course, the absurdity and, again, the trauma that comes with the gaslighting and the absurdity of, having to argue an exemption from what what was clearly against the Nuremberg Code. It was experimental. There was no informed consent. It was propaganda. It was coercion. And, I've got to justify to you why I needed an exemption. A switch got flipped, you know, almost overnight, And humanity still hasn't recovered from that. We're still living under that delusion. We're a great portion of the population still are. I mean, thankfully, 1 of the good things to come out of this and this sort of has a small parallel with what Melanie said about, and forgive me for forgetting the exact words. But it was when she was saying about what's the purpose of such traumatic grief. Is it God's purpose, such suffering? But I did get to speak to, Senator Johnson and so on. And, that struck parallels with me as well because, of course, you wonder what am I doing here? What's my life mean? And forgive me. I'm not choosing my words carefully or wisely here. But there is a flip side to the coin of the suffering. And I think that is if you listen to Ram Dass, he's I've found him certainly personally. I found him extremely on point and extremely comforting on this subject matter. You know, a lot of people get offended by this kind of thing. And this sort of gets back to AA. It's like, well, I'll say 1 of the things Ram Dass says is when you discover that suffering is actually a gemstone and it's helping polish the gemstone and it's suffering as a gift, But it takes usually a great deal of suffering and a great deal of time and processing to start to even see that that might be remotely true and remotely possible. And, I've seen it. I've experienced it. But I'm still suffering trauma. I'm still I'm all over the place. Part of me is feeling very enlightened, and part of me is feeling like completely the opposite end of the spectrum. You know, my it's like my whole psyche is spread out very thinly. And, you know, part of your psyche gets fractured in that. So that's sort of 1 of the reasons why I'm sort of, being very kind to myself and being very lazy and selfish. I'm still not working. And that's probably not selfish because I I I I tried working during the court case, and, I I really couldn't work. And that was before all of his, demise. But, yeah, the trauma of the fight, knowing we were fighting for his life, and it wasn't just about the vaccine. His life was on that razor's edge, and he he was ultimately pushed off early. But, you know, we were in a very unique position, I suppose, of knowing his life was, always in the balance from when he was born. We got the diagnosis very early with the brain scans. So we always knew he was very much, not long for this world. And our entire, for want of a better word, our our blueprint for living with all was just to keep him as comfortable as possible. Every decision was based around that. So we were sort of used, I guess, in the modern term or terms of, you know, thinking about end of life and, if that's something you ever have the misfortune to have to look at. There's a great book. I forget the exact title. It's doctor Julie I think it's m Howard, American pediatrician. And it's caring for it's a this might not be it exactly, but it's caring for the child with SNIs, severe neurological injury. And, it's the bible on this. It was first written probably 15 years ago now. I'm starting to see her name in a lot more papers now. You might come across her if you're reading anything to do about pain management, like serious pain management, and a few others. But pain management is 1 of her areas of expertise because, you know, the spasticity especially, you know, they're all on they're on these, benzodiazepine type drugs and, you know, midazolam comes in. So there's great many parallels with what, sadly, many formerly healthy people are now having to face. And I'm trying to think how I got on to this. I was talking about REM DAS and suffering. Yeah. That train of thought's kind of evaporated. Yeah. No worries. If you don't worry, if you think if you think of it, just have to come back. Yeah. My brain's, gone temporarily into the void. But so I Yes. Well, this is the thing about such suffering, grief, grief, and even trauma. It it sort of forces you out of the normal day to day stuff, you know, the normal life, the life we're all trying to get to, hopes and dreams and all of that, looking after family, you know, just just the normal human stuff. But grief is seemingly, you know, in most people's lives, it's it's a rare thing. And, so we're not particularly adept at dealing with it. But, you know, we have to face our own mortality at some point. I mean, some people obviously get tipped into the grave, you know, hit on the back of the head, whatever. They never knew anything. They never you know, not everybody lives life thinking about their own mortality. But, you know, the Zen monks certainly encourage it, for example, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. And grief forces you to do that. And, of course, most of us, unless you're very exceptional, go kicking and screaming, you know, a bit like somebody dragging themselves through the door of AA. It's like they've tried everything else, and it's, you know, it's it's an act of surrender, throwing in the towel. And, it's very funny when you've been like, I I can only say what comes to the tip of my mind. But like that fight to the death, which we knew it was in in the court, and you're all in. You know? It's like most of your life, it's pedestrian. It's humdrum, but you you sort of like any young man sort of wanting to go to war to test their metal, you know, because nobody knows how they'll react under fire. And there's always that sort of desire to know, well, how would I respond in a crisis? And, well, I hope I would do all right, and I'd like to think I could, you know, be the hero or whatever. You know, Sounds a bit childish putting it in those terms, but I think it gets the point across. And then so you're fighting the fight, and you're trying to fight your best fight. It's like you've decided that this fight is important. Most of the time, you sort of a sensible person will cross the street to avoid a fight. But some fights sort of choose you. You don't choose them as such. But but sometimes you decide, okay. Yeah. I'm all in on this. This is there's nothing more important to me. And I was trying to describe this to my parents because, you know, I wasn't paying the mortgage, da da da da da. And I got really angry that they hadn't understood what I tried to spell out to them so clearly. Because, you know, they're my parents. They're worried for me, and they're looking at the broader picture and they're saying or what what they're witnessing is my life collapsing and that, you know, Oliver being always vulnerable and whether he was life limited. Why is this such you know, to them, it was almost like it was coming like a surprise to me, for example. And I'm I'm sure they would tell it very differently, but I think you'll see that there's an element of truth to what I'm trying to say. And, but I was I mean, I I was almost psychotic, I guess. Certainly, it would appear that way to an outside observer. But I was like, there is nothing more important than this fight, nothing on earth to me right now. You've got to understand. I don't give a fuck about the house. I don't give a fuck about my future. That will take care of itself. This fight is everything, and it requires everything I have to give. And if that means I lose the house, I don't care. I can't afford to care. The fight is, right now, the only thing that matters. And it broke my parents' heart because they could see that, you know, to them, I sounded like a crazy person. To me, I never felt like I was more sane. I could see the insanity of it. You know, I wasn't delusional. But that's you know, I suppose what I'm trying to illustrate here is the the pressure of like Melanie was saying about how the stress can be cumulative and that that can cause the PTSD. Because, of course, for for most of what we hear about PTSD, it's they like to sell it as a singular traumatic experience. You know, that makes it much tidier and more, acceptable conversation at the dinner table. Well, those young men we sent to war, they saw their friends die in their arms and, well, that was a traumatic event. And that's very rare. It is sad, but it happens. You know? But we're all far more responsible when we acknowledge that the trauma is cumulative. And, you know, I'm not trying to put the whole world to rights, by any means. But there is a sort of I I suppose I am in a way now. There is a sort of we do have a collective societal responsibility to our culture doing compounding errors. And so naturally, we try and deny our own culpability. And so we like PTSD tied up with a bow. But I mean, and so now we have complex post traumatic stress disorder, which does go some way to acknowledging that. And if anybody's actually interested in PTSD, a great friend of mine, an old family friend who I call her a great friend, mostly because I fancied her since I was 12. That's a completely different story. But she, I won't talk about her too much because it's it's not the forum for it. But she suffered great trauma, and she saw so much benefit from having psychotherapy that she's now she is now a psychotherapist. And it gave her life tremendous meaning. And she's 1 of these people that might annoy certain people because she said, I'm glad it happened. I'm glad that trauma happened because I wouldn't be where I am now. And and that's 1 of the things we hear in AA a lot from the long term veterans. It's yes, it is the worst thing that's happened to you. Nobody's belittling any of the trauma. That's why we're all here. And and they always sort of say that the, the newcomer in the room is the most important person in the room. And that's not just for their benefit, but the new people coming in reminds us why we are staying sober, and it helps us not pick up. And then you hear the stories of people who didn't drink for 10 or 20 years, and they pick up, and it was even worse than before. And it's those stores that, help everybody collectively get on. And it's it's 1 of I I've not been to AA for, I don't know, maybe 8 months. But but now I sort of I am 1 of those veterans, and to be able to talk about all of that and and all this tremendous pressure that we've lived through and the the emotional roller coaster that that is. But to be able to say, yeah, my life's fallen apart. I lost the house. Finally, we did get to sell it, but I haven't picked up a drink. And for me now, that's enough. You know? I can still deal with my life falling apart. It doesn't matter. It's it's that's fine. It's great. You know? And so to get back to the origins of, tonight's stream of consciousness, how I've sort of disconnected from a a great deal of the world. And I'm I'm still on Twitter far too much. But, you know, I've been missing these meetings because I you know, in my head, it's Saturday, but, of course, for me, it's Sunday because we're, what, 8 hours ahead, generally. 5 to 8 hours ahead. And my timekeeping is completely blown up and shattered. FFR, I tried to try to link the link base to paydays in advance and, and if you find that that you don't you don't I don't I don't see the message today. And so it's quite you know? But I'm I'm used to that chaos, and I'm comfortable with it. And I'm here now, so that's, you know, that's what matters. But, just to get on to sort of slightly happier topic, I've been distracting myself rather successfully. I bought a 3 d printer, which I'm very much into. I've loved doing the deep research on that, and, it's helped me print things for my bike. And I'm building the the the touring bike for going bikepacking. Robin and I have dreams to do a lot more of that. Our daughter's now signed up to do the same ski course I did last winter to become a ski instructor, and that's phenomenal. And she's back home. Barely comes out of her room. I mean, I she's suffered, of course, the trauma of seeing Oliver go. But that was 1 of the blessings too, is we did get to spend his last 10 days in hospital never really leaving his side. Conveniently skipping over the 1 time we did leave his side, and that was essentially what put the nail in his coffin. So there's the guilt about that. But there's also the surrender to the fact that if he had to go and he always was going to go at some point, and we knew it would never be pressing. We knew we would never accept it when it happened even though we had, you know, 20 years to try and come to terms with it. But there was a great deal of grace. And and, really, in fact, that's why Robin and I are back together was because we we've walked through that storm together. And so that's the remarkable thing about this tremendous loss and suffering and and angst. It's good can be not only salvaged from it, but not even stolen from it, but it's it's there waiting for you to uncover it, to discover it, to dust it off, and and pick it up and and love it almost as much as we did Oliver. And I was thinking about Oliver today. I I don't think about him every day. And I don't feel guilty about that because whenever I do think about him, it's like he's never left. That love you feel, it's it's like the cliche ghost film with Patrick Swayze. The love inside, you know, you take it with you. It doesn't go. I mean, I'm clearly, I'm not the ghost in this story. But, yeah, I was imagining him sitting on my knee today as I'm laying on the couch. And I I used to take his he would be able to squeeze my finger with his hand. You know, and I spent a lot of time rubbing his hand on my lips, sort of kissing his hand. And I can still it's more than a remembrance. I I can relive that. You know? And it's upsetting, but it's extremely comforting. So there's a great deal of contradictions in this. In in everything I have to say, there's it's just 1 big contradiction. It's very much a yin yang, and it's the full package. And it's like, Hunter s Thompson said, buy the ticket, take the ride. You know, life is fucking messy, and it's brutal. You know, now it's that same bike from Stallone. Life hits pretty hard, but it's it's about getting up and keeping on moving. And it's a clichesh way, but there's a great deal of truth to it. But life can break you too. But when you're broken, it's like Leonard Cohen says, that's how the light gets in. You know, that's important. Being broken is really important because it humbles you, and it forces you to surrender. And it's not necessarily about getting on your knees and praying to God, although that does help. I can I can testify to that? But it doesn't necessarily have to be, a spiritual path recognized by any religious authority. You know, like I said, grief and so on is very personal. Life experience and our stories are all very personal. But they do have these shared elements. And and, yeah, it's it's all crazy. But, it's taking the time out to remember to laugh. And, so that's what I've been trying to do, and I'll I'll essentially, I'll end it there. But, you know, some days are easier than others. The emotions come and they go. And I'm getting more used to, you know, I can be in the midst of an emotional storm and and know it's it's okay. It will it will pass. And it's it's not even wanting to impact. It's it's it's the knowledge that, you know, the storm is weathering. It's necessary, and, it might be unpleasant. Yeah. It's a bit of sweet. And I'm not trying to trivialize trivialize it because when you're in the depths of suffering, it it can be a very, very dark and very lonely place. And and that comes to why these groups and this sharing and hearing other people's stories is so important. Because 1 of the worst things about all of this COVID madness has been the denial of reality. And Right. And there's nothing more lonely than you know, it's horrible. And the and the separating of all of us. Right? Yeah. And we're not designed to be alone. I mean, I've I've always been a bit of a loner, but we do need the that. It's it's 1 of the things that comes out in AA. What is it really about? And some of the wiser veterans go, and go, and and, you know, why do people drink or why do people get depressed? And it's a lack of connection. We all need that connection. Well, I, appreciate you chiming in on all of that, and it's good to see you back on the space again. Well, thank you very much for giving me the time to talk at that. I hope I hope somebody found some, some comfort and maybe some help in these words. But, yeah, if anybody has any questions at all. I still haven't recorded my testimony for the project. You'll get it. You'll get it done. Lot of things I haven't done. I haven't got my passport to continue my ski career. Yeah. No worries. And we're going down to London to do that together. And in fact, there's a podcaster in in England. He he did the podcast with is it Jacqueline Divenny? The the the lady who did the very angry, midazolam documentary. Yeah. Yeah. Very well informed, but very angry. You know, I can't stop judging people. Yeah. Justifiably so. I'm not not inferring it or implying otherwise. But it's funny. All our heroes are flawed and Yeah. She's definitely a hero or a heroine. You know? But, anyway, with her podcast, he's invited me to go and speak to him anytime. And I I was saying when I'm ready and can tell the story coherently, and that's 1 of the reasons I've I've just tried to step back and give myself the breathing space to Yeah. To allow the story to percolate. And so I can talk about it more naturally rather than the court case type approach of trying to tie down every bloody point because, you know, you're in this legal Oh, yeah. I completely different world. Right? So I totally get that. Well, stick around in case anybody does have questions for you. Oh, yes. Karen. I'm up for the duration now. I do wanna, go to Nick. He's been waiting so patiently. Nick. Thank you. I'm grateful to everybody who's had the patience to listen. No worries. We love having you on. It's lovely to be here. Thank you. Hey, Nick. Did we lose Nick? Looks like looks like Nick just dropped. Yes. What is that? Nick, if you want, to speak, you can just request him. Bring you up. I'll give him time. I have to restart. I'm on my phone and laptop, and the laptop connection was very iffy. So Yeah. Trying to get back on. Yeah. Okay. We'll give him a minute. If anybody does want us I'm gonna send him a live again. If anybody does wanna speak, just go ahead and press that little microphone. Can I actually, I don't I hate to interrupt anybody? Can I just add 1 thing? Sure. I I forgot to mention that I did do an interview, with doctor Peter McCullough last February, and I didn't know, you know, what he was gonna say. But since I had gotten everything from my daughter's autopsy report and the records from her cardiologist, appointment, from the month before she had passed away. I actually, I have to thank Harry Fisher for, making that happen. But, he he did say that it was the vaccine that caused her death. Doctor McCullough did? Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to throw that out there. So I'm glad he was the 1 looking at it. Mhmm. Yeah. He knows his stuff. He does. Have you connected with any of the other, families who lost their children to the Pfizer vaccine like the like, Alan Martin, Alan and Taylor Martin, Trista's their daughter? I'd yeah. I I have talked to them, and I I do follow both of them. And then, you know, Ernesto. And then I I do talk to, Dan Hartman. Okay. Yeah. It's it it's a very lonely, it's a very lonely process. You know? It's you know, when when it's your child, you know, they're they're the most important person in the world, you know, to you. And, you know, every everybody else's lives start to move on. And, you know, you just kinda feel stuck frozen into that in time, into that day where your life changed forever. And then, you know, after a couple months, people start expecting you to be back to normal. And it you know, the the thing about that is it's it's normal for people to think about their children every single day, whether they're alive or not. And Yeah. So every single day, when you think about your child that's not here anymore, you you go through that process all over again. And and then you have people who will start to say, oh, you know, it's it's time to move on. And and it just they they just don't understand that this loss is not it's not like other losses. It's your child. Yeah. And it's not just that it's even it's that it's the disenfranchisement of it too. The the fact that people don't believe you know? Mhmm. You know, if if she was murdered in a car wreck or drunk driving accident or got shot and robbed, everybody would not say that to you. Oh, I I have had some horrible things said to me. And, you know, I at first, I, you know, I I didn't wanna block anybody. But then it's like after a while, it's like, no. I just don't even need to see this. It's it's once you see things, you cannot unsee it. And there are some people who have said, you know, that you are disgusting for using your daughter's death to push your agenda. I mean, there's and even worse than that too. Yeah. And it's like, why if your daughter was murdered, why wouldn't you use her death? Right. Exactly. Why wouldn't you? That's the that's the craziest thing. If they if they're you know, that type of stuff pisses me off when when I hear it because Mhmm. I I mean, how ignorant how ignorant and arrogant of somebody to say that there, but for the grace of god, go they. Right? Like, I mean, I I I think about that every time I hear 1 of these stories about somebody losing their child to the to the damn shots because, you know, my my stepdaughters both got back they both got the COVID shot. And I don't know if they got boosters or whatever, but I worry about them all the time. They just agree with us. Right. And then and then that's hard because COVID did cause so much division in families. How many other families are estranged for other reasons? And, you know, that's that's my big thing right now is you you have to forgive people. We have to find a way to come together. Yeah. Because I tell you what, if the last thing that you know, the last discussion that you had with that person, if it was ugly, it will haunt you for the rest of your life. You know, you you cannot go back and change it. You can't make it right. And it's a really, really heavy heavy burden to carry. Yeah. It really my heart breaks for you. Thank you. It's I mean, I'll be honest. I there's there's been times where I've just absolutely not even wanted to wake up in the morning. Mhmm. Okay. I know I won't do it because, you know, I I do still have a son at home. I have my husband. They love me, and I don't wanna traumatize them. Right. But I honestly, I have the most patient husband in the world. And I told them that today. You know, I mean, my income was over half of our, you know, income for our family. And I the day that I was gonna go back, I I because I've I've been on a leave of absence for about 3 months. Mhmm. And I was supposed to go back right after the July 4, and I was not supposed to work until noon. But I, woke up that morning, and I I mean, I you know, I've had panic attacks, obviously, with the PTSD and everything, and my head was spinning. I I felt like I was underwater, and some something was telling me, you know, not not to drive. And I so I I messaged my boss, and I told him that I just I couldn't drive. And, you know, I would try to get there as soon as I could, and it was a couple hours before I felt like I was ready to drive. And then when I got there, I I just I honestly had no idea what I was gonna do. But when I got there, I handed him my keys. I told him I couldn't do this anymore. That's totally understandable. Completely understandable. And I will never forget or forgive him for making me give his wife a booster because her dad had died, and she had to go back to Vietnam. And since she had to get a shot to go, and he made me do it. I will never forgive him for that. Every single 1 that I did have to do, it just killed me. I wish Harry was still on. Alright. You know, for some reason, I haven't been seeing his posts in a while, but, no, he he's been great. He is so He was on a little earlier today, but he had to go. Mhmm. He had to go. Yeah. No. I I he had posted a while back that, you know, doctor McCullough had messaged him, and so I reached out to him and asked him if, you know, he could arrange, you know, for me to talk to doctor Nicola, and and so he did. You know, he followed through with that. And so I I really appreciate him for helping us make that connection because that helps me get answers that I needed. Yeah. I'm probably gonna be, getting off here pretty soon. I'm getting pretty tired. My my battery drains really, really fast. And you are out with the chickens? No. I actually came in. It it just got too cold. I figured by now my husband would be stay here. I wouldn't wake him up. And you're in the North, so it can't be warm. Yeah. I'm, yeah, I'm up in Washington. So, yeah, it's been raining pretty good today. I always forget people. You know, not everybody has 95 degree weather in October October. So Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. But I just I wanna thank you guys for, letting me speak. And I I will do the, Put your story I'll put her story on there. Yeah. Yeah. I just I have to write myself in it to do it, but, otherwise, I I just forget everything. Yeah. It's important to Or it really is. Yeah. All of it needs to be documented. Okay. But thank you. So, yeah, I'll just I'll say goodnight, and and thank you to everybody for listening. Thank you for speaking and talking about it. Thank you. It's, yeah, it's been rough. It's been a rough road, and I do appreciate missing is it missing snowman? I appreciate his information too. Yeah. It's it's a long process. I am finally getting to a point where I can I can see that there is some good coming out of this? But It's connected. Yeah. And it's super important to connect with, you know, you know, more just telling the story and putting your story out there is very important. But, also just, you know, we've got the support groups that, you know, every almost every night of the week, and you just you can go and sign up for them and and get put on the on the list and attend whenever you want. We have a PTS, a PTSD 1 that's I don't know if she's doing it on Sunday and Thursdays, but, Patty Guilliano runs that, and people love it. It's, it's a it's a workshop with other, you know, other victims, other people who are suffering the loss too. So I, yeah, So I would I would highly recommend that you just sign up for a minute time when you can because it's super important. It's just really important to, you know, take care of yourself as well and be and do so with people who believe you and understand you and have been there and Yeah. You know? And I've always been 1 of those people who give and give and give Mhmm. And taking care of everybody else to the point where it's detrimental to myself. Yeah. You gotta you gotta fill up what you Yeah. Pour out. Right? You can't give what you don't get. So, yeah, so I would highly recommend the PTSD 1 and the Monday night meeting. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'll I'll do my story tomorrow. I promise. Okay. And sign up for the support groups at least even if she takes too long to tell your story. Okay. Okay. Thank you, guys. You have a good night. You too. Okay. Thank you. Alright, hon. Heidi, is that you in the California Yes. Hello. Can you hear me? I can. How are you? How are you? I'm good. How are you? Good. You know, the main question I have is when do you think the criminal investigations will begin? You know, it's a good question because, I I I don't know. I think that depends a lot a lot on what happens in the next in the next 2 weeks. True. Yeah. And, you know, it depend it also it's how much pressure can we put on the attorney generals in each state and how many you know, the more people that come forward, obviously I mean, could you imagine there's what over there's probably you know, as of March of 20 23 or April 2023, in California, there was over a hundred thousand people that have been killed in hospitals alone. Right? Could you imagine if 50,000 people wrote the attorney general and was, like, about it and then the shots and all of that. I mean, it would be a tsunami of of letters, same here in in Texas and in every state. If enough people stand up, you know, they'll do anything, but we we need you know, so many of the people who were harmed probably don't even realize that a crime's been committed against them. Right? So, I guess when how how soon will the criminal investigations stop start or or a lot depends on us. Right? Exactly. I I think once, you know, the media isn't silenced anymore, they're not censored, and they're able to report on truth, you know, like they did years ago, then more people would wake up and, you know, submit their stories to the COVID Humanity Betrayal Memory Project because the more stories we have, the more pressure we could put on Congress Yeah. To create legislation to end this. Right? Because it was through the prep act, through the Cures Act and Cares Act that this genocide has been allowed to continue, and it it needs to end. Yeah. I mean, it's finding the victims, you know, informing the victims, and then getting them to stand up. I was talking earlier, you know, in the beginning of the spaces about how oftentimes people they know that their loved 1 was killed. They're, for whatever reason, they're afraid to stand up or they're embarrassed to stand up or not you, Heidi. Definitely not you. You're you're all over the place in California. The hospitals in front of they're not shutting you up. But but, you know, it is there's a cost to standing up. There's a cost to speaking out and being involved. And, but it's, it's most certainly important. So Yeah. It's real important because, you know, I witnessed, you know, lupus Espinosa's heart beating for the last time in the hospital. And, you know, I was aware in the very beginning of what was happening because of what I was able to witness and, you know, the thought that keeps, you know, occurring and coming to my mind is how long is it gonna take before it's my child. Right? Mhmm. Because the protocols are still in place. They're not being star stopped. They're still mandating and pushing remdesivir in, you know, the hospitals. So Somebody just told us who was it? Somebody was somebody in California said that the earlier in the spaces that the backs injured, were being given remdesivir and Paxlovid. Really? Yeah. For what? For for treatment of their back surgeries? Yep. Oh, wow. I mean, they're just It's just blatant. They're they're trying to kill us. Yeah. Yeah. It is blatant. You know? You know, they honestly, the only tool at this point we have because it is legal to literally kill in our hospitals today. You know, in America, the only tool we have is information to inform people to warn them. Right? Because if it's not us today, it's our kids tomorrow. Right. Exactly. Exactly. It's horrific. You know, I pray Trump, you know, gets in office. I pray Kennedy, you know, stands true to his commitment, you know, to the new administration, and a lot of truth is revealed. You know? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. 2 weeks left. Yeah. I'm glad you were able to join us. You've been hit and miss lately. You've been busy. Yes. I've been busy. That's for sure. Alright. I think we're waiting for Sherry to get back on to or Sherry, are you you tell me when you're ready. The the The list we've been together together of the anniversary people are people are I won't say celebrate. Celebrate. People are experiencing the anniversary anniversary of love when they're loved when they're loved when they're loved when they're loved when they're related to humanity. Today Today And the following and the following 7 days is such a long list. Is such a long list. It is such a long list. You we're talking about those who died. Just just within the narrow 7 span of time over the last over the last several years. And it's 30 plus 30 plus names. It's just it's just it's gobsmacking. Yeah. We're going on 3 years now. Right? My my best friend, Lupe Espinosa, was murdered in Clovis Community Hospital due to the hospital COVID protocols and doctors and nurses who wouldn't stand up and speak against the genocide. And 3 years now without any accountability or justice. I mean, what what's it gonna take? Because it it it didn't end with her death. It's continued, and we're 3 years in now, and the deaths have not stopped. This is incredibly like, I'm looking at the names that Sherry's gonna read in a bit. And, it's very sad when I'm looking at these and some of these interviews I did, of these folks. And just I I just I know, like, 1 of them is 1 of them was 21 years old. 1 of them I mean, like, they're young. A lot of young people on this list. So I I'm gonna make an appeal to people. If you don't have a story, at least go and watch these interviews. What I mean, whether you do or not, watch these interviews and share these interviews, share them everywhere. You know, make them go viral because these these widows and widowers and these parents, these parents who who give theirs give the stories and there's there's just no there's nothing we can do to console them other than give them support and a platform to tell their stories. Their stories need to be shared. Their stories need everyone needs to to hear and see these stories. Exactly. These are such it's such a small percentage of the actual stories that are out there, but yet it represents everyone's story because they're all the same. You're gonna hear this you you know, watch all these and hear the same thing over and over and over again. Yes. The 25 commonalities. You know? Every story in every state states the same thing. This is an agenda, and I cannot wait for the criminal investigations because my I wanna know who gave the orders. Yeah. Who gave them? We we we know it was our government, the CDC, the HHS, the NIH, etcetera. But who gave them the orders? I wanna know. Fauci. Right? But beyond Fauci, I wanna know. I mean, I think he's just the fall guy. I wanna know who really gave the orders. Well and we have to make sure that we get a red wave because if if we get, a democrat majority in the house or the senate, we'll get nothing done. I mean, after, you know, working on legislation here in Oklahoma to get the s p 4 26, which was to protect Oklahoma's sovereignty from the WHO, the WF, and the UN. We went to every senator and every, representative, and not 1 democrat voted for that. So you can expect that we're not gonna get any help from the democrats. And I'm sorry to be partisan, but we've got to get we've got to get republicans in office. And there's some of them I don't like, but even a bad republican is better than a a Democrat. I'm sorry. I'll I'll shut up. So we gotta go to, I wanna go to Sherry while we have her so in case we lose her again to, read the the list of people who, are having who whose anniversary of their loved one's death was today. Today meaning either the 20 sixth or 20 seventh since we're you know, depending on where you are. But, and for the next 7 days, Sherry, you wanna take it? Can you hear me okay? We can. Good. Excellent. For a minute anyway, because it keeps dropping. So, we're gonna start with James Jackson the third, also known as Sunny. He was killed Tuesday, 10/26/2021. His story was told by Stephanie McKinley. Vicky Michelle Houser was killed Tuesday, 10/26/2021. Her story was told by Kimberly Michelle Hare. Shirley Herron was killed Wednesday, 10/26/2022. Her story was told by Susan Williams. Kevin Plourde was killed Wednesday, 10/27/2021. His story was told by Kimberly Plourde. Devin Veach was killed Thursday, 10/27/2022. His story was told by Jessica Oakes. Jeffrey Bruce was killed Thursday, 10/28/2021. His story was told by Dawn Bruce. Jeff Koslowski was killed Thursday, 10/28/2021. His story was told by Jody Kozlowski. John Michael Addison was killed Thursday, 10/28/2021. His story was told by Karen Addison. Robert Dennis was killed Thursday, 10/28/2021. His story was told by Kathy Jankowski. Michael Keane was killed Wednesday, 10/28/2020. His story was told by Nicole Keane. Jason Nation was killed Friday, 10/29/2021. His story was told by Alice Nation. Tom Ersick was killed Friday, 10/29/2021. His story was told by Nancy Ersick. Gerald Gary Russell was killed Friday, 10/29/2020. His story was told by Lisa Iberg. Allen Haines was killed Saturday, 10/30/2021. His story was told by Renee Haines. Andrew Amperin was killed Saturday, 10/30/2021. His story was told by Julie Amperin. Steven Yarborough was killed Sunday, 10/31/2021. His story was told by Starla Yarbrough. Robert Rob Diamond Junior was killed Sunday, 10/31/2020. His story was told by Anne. Dawn Kinsey was killed Sunday, 10/31/2021. Her story was told by Shauna Kinsey. Mary Brion was killed Monday, 11/01/2021. Her story was told by Julie Brentissen. Lise Criswell was killed Monday, 11/01/2021. Her story was told by Tim Criswell. Spencer James Rainey was killed Tuesday, 11/02/2021. His story was told by Mary Chris Rainey. William Rosen was killed Tuesday, 11/02/2021. His story was told by Lori Rosen. Joseph Michael Luna was killed Tuesday, 11/02/2021. His story was told by Joanne Luna. Kent F Schuch was killed Wednesday, 11/02/2022. His story was told by Kelly Shook. The members of former Feds Group Freedom Foundation and the COVID-nineteen Humanity Betrayal Memory Project want to extend our deepest sympathies to all of our families for these horrific crimes. Thank you, Sherry. Thank you for reading that. That, yeah, that that that's just a small portion of the people killed that were killed this week in history, in the last 4 years from COVID related crimes against humanity. I'd I'd like to clarify that. Those are the ones that know that their loved ones were killed. Yeah. The 1 and the ones that came forward. I mean, there's still many people that may know, but they haven't come forward or they haven't told their story or they haven't found us or we haven't found them. And believe me, we that is, like, 1 of our number 1 missions is to find the victims of these horrendous crimes, to find them and bring them into, the fold, give them a place to tell their story, honor the victims. We'd victim outreach is so freaking critical. If you have a story, if you know somebody who has a story, bring them to us. Share the spaces. Share thebetrayalproject.org. Share our the projects. Encourage them to give their loved 1 a voice and, and tell the story. I know it's hard. Encourage them to come to the support groups so that we can help them, and just just I mean, just encourage them to to do something and, and get involved if if they have if they have the ability as well. I it's heartbreaking to hear all of those names and to know that there's probably 10,000 names that in this week, you know, especially during the you notice how many were 20 21, the the dreaded declared by the Biden administration to be the dark winter, the pandemic of the unvaccinated when all the unvaccinated were gonna die. It's when many of us were in the hospital, and they certainly made it made it happen. So I, yeah, please please, encourage share the stories. Go out and, you know, look at you can well, if you go to CHBMP.org or betrayalproject.org, it'll go to the same place. You'll you'll see the list scrolling at the top of the people who died this week or this month and or in the next 30 days. Click on those stories and and, you know, share their stories just in honor of them. You have anything else do you have anything to add, Sherry, Miriam, or Chelsea? I I can tell you that I have come across a lady in Tennessee, and I know from what little bit she's told me that it was definitely a protocol murder. I don't know if she's ready to grasp that right now. Mhmm. So I gave her the 25 commonalities link. Yep. And I'm just giving her a few days before I touch back with her again. But that's the but that's the way it is for the folks that are listening is if you've consigned yourself over to your spouse or your dad or whoever has passed away because of a virus, and it was novel, of course, it was not gonna be the same as every other time that somebody got sick. Right. There's a lot of backflips your mind and heart has to do to get to the point where you wanna know more because that's painful. Yep. Yep. But we don't have anybody else. I don't see any hands up. If if there are, somebody please tell me. I just wanted to add in the the full list full list of the of those doctor's stories stories with us in our anniversary of Love Their Love Dead. In the next in the next, you can see not just over the the 7 day and days of the 30 days of the link the link above, which is chphp.com//anniversaries. Thank you. Thank you. And there are so many people will be dumbfounded to see how many there are there are within this narrow span span of time. Open that list. And each 1 of those stories is clickable. Right Yep. I agree. I've also sent him a link link. I've shared shared about her her best friend's friend Guadine de Mendoza. That's the link to the rub video or enter interview. CHCHB at e bridge bridge. And you can watch that. Share it if you're inclined. I see I see Albert. I'll bring you on a few words where we where we wrap it up wrap it up and down and down and send the mic everybody else does. I might have said that's just just too late too late. Really good conversation tonight. So many so many stories stories I haven't heard. I haven't heard. Heard. Absolutely Heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. And, I'm so sorry for all you and so grateful for you for you and coming out and sharing your and sharing your story like this tonight. Yep. We'll be here every Saturday night. So please share, follow us just in case we do an impromptu 1 as well. I mean, sometimes there's things that happen that we have to get on as phases, but, you know, so follow us. And and follow the follow the Freedom Foundation, the Freedom Foundation, Task Force, and see them see them Mike on Mike. That is that is our our our Nationwide nationwide. To organize across every state and, and eventually eventually internationally to to address these issues locally. And and and global impact. Yeah. Sherry, do you want to share your mind? I do wanna mention 1 more thing. If you do have to we're we don't just collect or take stories and do the interviews and put the stories out there for, The US, anywhere, any country. If you have a story about COVID related crimes against humanity, please put your story in. Go ahead, Sherry or Miriam. I thought I saw Sherry. I saw Sherry Martinez on the stage. Do you wanna chime you wanna chime in, Sherry? I can't think of anything else that I can add. I mean, other than distress that it's not just the hospital protocols, it's also the vaccines and a lot of the other torture that people were put through by COVID mandates or whatever they want to call them. Yeah. Because they're all tied together. Exactly. Exactly. I think it was in 02/1999. A guy named Jack Jack. Jacques. Jacques. Jacques. Jacques. Name. Jacques. Name. Jacques. Name. Jacques. Name. Jacques. Something. Put think I I think they really they really believe that they believe that they've been inflicted enough with enough trauma on the collective consciousness of everyone on everyone on the planet that they could just they could just shift the goalpost. The goalpost and and Force. Force. Force. Empathy. Twisted twisted sense of empathy. Manufactured in their, tabletop exercises. On all of us. On all of us. Which is really Which is really clown world version version of what he is. And, and that's how that's how that that's how they fought off a lot of, the crimes against humanity. Humanity began to get convincing people that they were the good people. They were the good people for protecting grandma and protecting themselves and others. And everyone else is just selfish, selfish, evil, and evil, and wrong. And and they deserve to die. And that that's the new empathy that they wanted to usher in. So, so I'm so glad. I'm so glad so many so many here here Saw through that. Through that and And recognize what was happening. What was happening. And and as a result, we're here listening listening to this tonight. So any So any that doesn't make any sense at all? He's non He's non mandate. Nonsensical. Upside down diversion. That's all that's all they would relate against against you because they use the use the so called pandemic as pretext to do all this social manipulation. And that's why things are so crazy and crazy and accepting realities that you or you may or your neighbor live in today today. Well, we can't expect it to make sense. It it's it's not logical because there's actually an ulterior motive. It has nothing to do with logic. Exactly. Exactly. And that's part of the moralization aspect If you if you are willing are willing to concede that what is obvious is the clown world in a virtual reality is actually reality. Reality, then I mean, I mean, at your core, you're gonna know that's true. So you're gonna have you're gonna have cognitive dissonance. And and then you're also going to be demoralized. And and They want us to solve demoralized. So so I know it's hard. Fighting this fighting this really, really ridiculous war every day every day. But I'm glad I'm so glad that that we're all doing we're all doing that and really, really put a dent in it. We would put a dent in it. We would put a dent in it. We would put a dent in it. We would put a dent in it. We would put a dent in it. We would put a dent in it. We would probably probably still be under, these weird mandates. If if it's not for all of you seeing that. Seeing that. So Thank you all. Thank you all. I'm gonna wrap I'm gonna wrap it up there till then I'm echoing. Miriam and Miriam, any final thoughts for me? For me. Close it out. Close it out. Yeah. Yeah. No. I think think it was good spaces. I always look forward to staying up till 1, 2, 3 in the morning and with you guys. I wouldn't wanna be anywhere else, not my bed, not you know? Just here with y'all every Saturday. No. I love y'all. And we'll see you again next Saturday. Next Saturday, AMPM. Stern. Saturday. Saturday right here on x. Thank you so much, so much. Have a great night, everyone. Everyone. See you next see you next week.