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0: GMT for Twitter today. Just give us a few minutes to get situated here. 1: Alright. I'm unmuted now. Hopefully, everybody can hear me. I, felt like I was in a Ron DeSantis press conference there. Couldn't speak. Nobody could hear me. K. Welcome welcome as people join. Welcome to our, first, Twitter spaces. We are going to be, talking about a topic that is kinda, important to at least to 1600000.0 Americans who've been affected by it, and that is the, hospital homicides that have, happened regarding the protocols, how we got there, and how that's happening. I see people coming in and out. So we've got a few people that you're gonna hear from right off the bat here. I am, as you can see, Huckleberry's wife. My name is Gail Seiler. I've been recently and over the last year doing interviews out in the public space. My story's been featured in, Epic Times, last year and recently, again, this week. I've been, I have been I was just on children's health defense last week. They've been Epic Times in Children's Health Defense have been doing a lot of these stories. They've really been they've really been hot after, trying trying to wake the world up to what's happening in hospitals and help us get some accountability, as has been, with the Patriots USA. And so just a little bit, if you don't know who I am, I'm a survivor of the protocols, the protocols that are murdering Americans. I went into the hospital in Texas in early December 20 21. My oxygen was 77. I was denied treatments, the f f l c c c treatments, the ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, budesonide, vitamin c, good old fashioned vitamin c, and, vitamin d. I was denied that and got worse, and they pushed remdesivir, pushed pushed pushed remdesivir, and I knew about remdesivir. I did I declined remdesivir and tocilizumab, which is Actemra, and other drugs. And, you know, they as they do, they deny the patient's food and water. Right? So you can't, you know, know I didn't have water for 7 days. I didn't have food for 13 days. No nutrition, actually, period. And, and the high oxygen. And, and so 1 of the things that happened early on gave my family and me kind of a hint that they that the hospital was going to kill me. And that was the my, first day in the ICU. The doctor came in, doctor Quach. His name is doctor Gang Quach. He came in, and he asked me if I was vaccinated, and I said no, that I wasn't. And he patted me on the hand, and he said, I'm I'm so sorry, missus Seiler, but you're gonna die. And that, at that 2: Sorry about 3: that. Gail seems to have lost her connection. While she reconnects, would anybody else like to stay grounded? Sorry. This is our 0: very first Twitter space, and we might be running into some 3: technical difficulties. Brad, are you able to speak? It says you're a speaker. So as Gail was just explaining, many many people have been subjected to harmful hospital protocols over the last several years, and, we've been documenting their stories. And, we've amassed over we've we've published over 600 stories. We have over 800, documented stories that have come into us from victims all around the country. So you'll be listening to victims talk about what happened to them today. Lisa, would you like to 4: say something? Sure. 2: Hi. My name is Lisa Butler, and I am a widow. My my husband was murdered in a hospital here in Tomball, Texas. Our entire family was sick with COVID. It started with my oldest son getting it, and then I got it, and then he got it. And, we were all doing treatment from the doctors here, and my husband's oxygen got down to 86. So from the protocol with the doctors, they said he needed to go to the hospital. So he he went he went to the hospital. They kept him because he was COVID positive, and, that's kinda where his journey began. He he was doing good the first couple days he was there. He was in a, intermediate room, and then they had downgraded him to a regular room. And he was about to be leaving the hospital. And all of a sudden, something happened. He was given different treatments such as he was on the, BiPAP machine. He was on the high flow machine. I I do remember him saying, like, Gail was saying about the starvation. He he had messaged me because it was hard for him to breathe that, they've finally given him some food. So he finally got some honeydew melon, and he was starving. So, I guess during some of those messages, it's hard to understand. You know? Was it actually happening, or was that just him because he's, you know, in and out with oxygen levels? Anyway, after that, the middle of the night, they called me and said that my husband signed to be put on a ventilator. I thought it was strange that he he never said anything to me. We would text a little bit back and forth. I try not to overwhelm him because, you know, we wanted to keep his spirits up, and we didn't want him to waste too much energy, you know, talking to us. But, I'd asked the nurse, do you know, does he wanna FaceTime me, or does does he wanna talk to me on the phone? And she said, no. He doesn't wanna speak to you, which was very strange. But I said, okay. Well, maybe he it's just really hard for him. So I didn't I just kinda let it go. You know? And then in between all of that, I had no calls from the hospitals at all other than when they were gonna put them on the vent. That's the only call I got. And then the the second call I received was that the doctor wanted to put him on remdesivir. So I had heard some information about that. It kinda bounced around about different stories. It it was hard to understand what was truth and what was not truth, but, I was very hesitant. And, I I had 2 family friends who both have family members that are doctors. And so they told me at any time if I had a question, day or night to call, it didn't matter. So, doctor Rivali called me and said, I need your authors I need your approval to give him remdesivir. And, I said, well, I haven't heard from you at any doctor at the hospital at all. I said I have no updates on him about his stats, his oxygen level, his energy level, anything that's going on with him. You know, I was more concerned about give me give me where he is. You know? And, they, I told the doctor, I said, well, I need 5 minutes. Give me 5 minutes, and I will call you right back. And he said no. I said, what do you mean you can't give me 5 minutes? My husband's been in the hospital almost 2 weeks now, and I call y'all multiple times a day, and you can't give me 5 minutes to, you know, get somebody's input on this because I'm conflicted. And he goes, said, nope. We'll send it to the pharmacy. If they fill it, they fill it. They don't, they don't. Well, of course, they filled it. I didn't know that at the time. I mean, I was suspect that they did, but I I know now that they did. And then his symptoms progressively got worse. He got put on the vent. They said that he was gonna be put on the vent to give his lungs a rest because they explained to me it was like he was running on a treadmill 24 7 without a break. So I said, okay. And when they did that procedure, the nurse was like, do you have any questions? And I said, ma'am, I'm I have never been through this before. Can you I don't know anything about this process. I kinda need you to fill me in. So she did. And, I said, well, just, you know, tell him I love him, and then let me know how he does, you know, when he when he's under. And, she gave me a callback, said everything went fine. I've seen the medical records that's not correct. It took them 2 attempts to put him on the vent. And then, he was at a % oxygen, and, the nurse explained they'd have to titrate down the oxygen as his lungs tolerate it. So then the next next day, he got down to 90%, so he was progressively going down. She said that's a good sign that you wanna slowly get down off of the oxygen. And then, again, in the middle of the night, they called and said my husband went into cardiac arrest. And, I told her, I said, what are you doing on the phone with me? Please go take care of him. I'm the last year worried. Please, please render aid to him. And, he went in he he went to cardiac arrest and, never came back. And then, after he passed, we needed to figure out what to to do. I, you know, I need to figure out what to do with him because I have family that lives out of town. And I remember I got 5 phone calls from the hospital asking me what to do with his body because apparently, they did not have a morgue. All they had was a cold room. So I said, what do you what do you mean you have a cold room? Is his body out there for everybody to stare at? You know, I want him to have some privacy. This is not okay with me. She said, no. No. He's I said, okay. So it kinda was gasless. Like, they just didn't want him there anymore. You know? So that is my story. 3: Thanks for sharing that, Lisa. 2: Thank you. Would 3: anybody else like to talk about what happened to them? For everyone, we are having, some technical difficulty. Just 1 moment. Okay. Brad, are you able to take the mic yet? 5: Am I speaking? Hello? 1: Yeah. I can hear you, Anne. And Yes. 3: Yes. We can hear you. Thank goodness. Sorry about that, everyone. 1: Alright. So who I I I couldn't hear anything that was happening up in up until now because there were difficulties. So if somebody was speaking, I don't wanna interrupt them. I can pick up when they're done. 3: Lisa just finished, telling her story. So if you wanna pick it pick it back up where you left off before you got cut off, and I'm so sorry about that, Gail. 1: No. It's okay. So where was I cut off? Was it, 3: we were just getting everyone up to speed with, what's happened to to, hundreds of thousands of people over the last 3 years, and what happened to you when you were in the hospital? 1: Yeah. So so as I I was I was saying before I I did get cut off that, you know, my in in my case, I was denied the FLCCC protocol, the ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and bedesenide. And the doctor had given us an indication that things were not going to go well when he asked me if I was vaccinated, and I said no. And he's patted me on the 3: Oops. We lost you again, Gail. Can can you still hear Gail? I see it. It still looks like she's talking, but I can't hear a word. 2: I don't I don't hear anything from Gail. I hear you, though. 5: I On 2: on my screen, so she's muted. Muted. Oh, now she's see that. 3: Are you back with us, Gail? Well, would you like to say a few words? Would you would you care to, say a bit more about what happened to you? 2: Sure. Me? Are you talking about me? 4: Yep. 2: Okay. Sure. Yeah. So, basically, after after my husband passed and he was buried, I had this feeling, I guess, deep down inside my heart and in my gut that something was horribly wrong. I couldn't tell you exactly what, but I knew something was off. So it took a while for me to actually wanna look into this because I was concerned that they would have to exhume his body to to do that information. Luckily, though, I you know, some things happened in my life, and I got connected with, COVID Humanity Bureau Memorial Project, memory project. And, I met Gail, and I I did my interview with her. And it has been such a blessing because there are different, spaces here as far as people that need support because that was the biggest thing is that I just felt like I was by myself. I didn't know anybody else that really had the same situation because of all of the misinformation. So that was a huge, benefit is to join in the group group and talking to other people and meeting other widows and widowers and then hearing their experience, and then them also sharing for me some items that happened to their loved 1. They would say things, you know, like, they were, you know, their family member was given remdesivir. Well, I can confirm that my husband did get the full dose of remdesivir. And then on top of that, I learned there were other treatments that he was given. He was given propofol. He was given fentanyl. He was given morphine. He was given vancomycin. He was given many, many, many drugs. Also in his records, I was able to confirm that, they had to give him Narcan, which means that they overdosed him somehow and brought him back. And for me personally, the way I'm able to heal, if they're if that's the right fur word for it, is it was by discovery. For the longest time, I carried guilt that I took my husband to his gas chamber. I that's how I felt. I felt that I took him to his demise. And then speaking with our oldest son, he since he was the 1 that was sick first, he had mentioned to me that he felt guilty for his daddy's passing. So with that, with that happening, I told him I said, no. You don't get to carry that guilt. I was like, if anybody got your daddy sick, it was me, not you. You know? You you do not need to carry that guilt. You know? And then, I got his medical records, and that's where the eye opening happened to me. It was all there. It was all documented. It was undeniable, proof that of how he was treated in the hospital, what they gave him, you know, from, you know, lack of food, lack of water over oxygenation. I mean, some of the notes even say that my husband did not even want to lay in the hospital bed. And I know he knew that's because he probably was drowning in his you know, in in the fluid in his lungs. So he was smart enough to know not to to lay down. So he would sit in a chair. You know? So as horrific as some of those details are, it brings to light the truth and what happened to him and so many others. I was shocked when I first started going to the Monday meetings with the COVID Humanity Betrayal Project 1: and the former Feds Group 2: when I first started going to those meetings. You would hear different individuals share their story, their loss, what happened to them, or, you know, they they they would say similar things that we would hear over and over and over. And then that's when it clicked to me that they're not they're not it's not an exception. My some of the things that happened to my husband was not an exception. To me, it feels like it was planned. It was a planned a playbook or a this was the protocol that they had to use when they were in the hospital with COVID. And, unfortunately, you know, there there are other options that he could have been given, and he probably woulda had a much different outcome. And I I do know that our group talks about the 25 commonalities, so I don't wanna get ahead of myself. But, I know that is definitely something amongst the group that many of us can see and, are familiar with because they kind of repeat amongst the different stories. 3: Yep. We we have identified over the 600 cases that we have interviewed and published, a a list of 25 commonalities that we see over and over and over again in cases. And and it's it's just well 0: I think it's the evidence shows the felony at 1 time when it was the 1 victim, but we've heard it over and over and over again from hundreds of victims who do the same things that 3: happened to them over and over again. And among these are being isolated. We all know that people were isolated during the pandemic, but the degree to which people were deprived of their basic human rights and isolated is is really amazing. And I see, Gail has rejoined us. Yep. 1: Can you hear me? 3: Yep. We can hear you. 1: Yeah. 3: We were just talking about the 25 commonalities. 1: Yeah. Okay. So, and hopefully, I stay on now. Just, if you lose me, Chelsea, just message me. Okay? 0: Yeah. 1: So, yeah, so we've I identified 25 commonalities in all of the, interviews that we have done. And we have over I mean, it's getting close to a thousand stories now that people have sent us in some fashion. I think we've got about 650 or so that are published more pending interviews. But we've we we have, 25 commonalities, and you started to run down them. And I'm I had them pulled up. Here we go. Here we go. Let me, pull these up. And so if you on our chbmp.org site is where you can find these and send them to people if you think that maybe they have experienced it. But, you know, it all starts with the isolation of the victim. So the victim, they they deny access to family, friends, pastor, priest, clergy, advocates. They're just they're completely isolated. And then, then, and I don't really I I say victims, but I really mean eyewitnesses to crimes against humanity. Then there is this strict adherence to the EUA protocols where the hospital protocol drugs like remdesivir and Veklury well, remdesivir is Veklury, baricitinib. Those things are either forced on the victim or they're the only options, and the doctors and nurses will gaslight family members. That's the only option they can have. They're denied any any alternative. And I I experienced many experienced many many of these when I was in the hospital before my husband rescued me. But, they deny them any any of the alternative treatments, which actually are the treatments, but they call them our, you know, the safe and effective ivermectin, budesonide, hydroxychloroquine. They make false statements, so it's not FDA approved. They don't work. All these things when they work perfectly well, they they're denied, they're denied, informed consent. So, there's no there's no information given to the the families about the remdesivir or anything like that that you know, they don't tell the family, oh, it will probably lead to, you know, mechanical ventilation, harm the kidneys, put them into multiple organ failure. They don't give any informed consent. If they if they told families the truth that the studies show remdesivir to be 11 percent effective and they it could damage your your kidneys. Nobody would ever agree to it, if they told the truth. Another commonality is gaslighting. So victims and family members are told that they will, and I'm sure many of you have experienced this if if you've had somebody in the hospital. They are told, the victims are told that they'll die if they refuse to comply with the hospital protocol or that, they will die if they don't go on a mechanical ventilator. I mean, even if somebody's voice is strong and they're they they can breathe, they will try to get them on a vent because of the incentives. And and they'll they'll blame it on, the the the family and the victim will be told, well, you you wouldn't you wouldn't be this sick. You know? You wouldn't be sick if you if you'd gotten vaccinated. They they they lie to them about the, you know, telling them that they'll die because they're unvaccinated. That really happened when you do. And they get constantly told that their loved 1 is a very they say things like they're a very sick man or a very sick woman, and that since the family can't get in to see them because see number 1 in the isolation process, they don't have any way to to to, know that the hospital's gaslighting them because there there's that isolation factor. They remove communication devices from the patient. They they will remove the call lights, cell phones, other communication devices, and or put them out of their reach. Many of our loved ones and and many of the many of the survivors, it's not many survivors, but the ones that are survivors have experienced that. And then there's, a particularly cruel aspect, especially among the unvaccinated of dehumanization, and I think Chelsea was kinda hitting on that 1. There's this methodical dehumanization of the victim, and I I can guess like, there's examples that I experienced in terms of no ability to to clean myself, no water, you know, the humiliation, the being being naked and uncovered and on display so that people could look at you from the window was completely dehumanizing. And I I I I feel like I was treated like an animal. When my husband sends, when people ask him what what the hospital did to me, he will send them the video of and I think everybody's probably seen it by now, of the beagles that Fauci's lab that the Fauci lab when they were experimenting on the beagles with the with the fleas, he sends them that video and he says that's what they did to my wife. So it's a total dehumanization. Some other commonalities, families, they they will always say most of the time, they'll say, I had a sense that something was wrong. I didn't know what it was, but I had a I just could feel something was wrong. Something wasn't adding up in what the doctors were telling me or the experience at the hospital. But, you know, they've done an effective job of calling anybody who questions anything a conspiracy theorist, and most people are just law abiding, rule following people, and, they don't wanna be considered a conspiracy theorist. And so they're like, yeah. Something's wrong. I'd you know? But but since they don't have proof of what it is, they just, you know, didn't act on it. And so they they play on that. They'll say, you know, they'll say things like, are you a doctor? You know, when when they question anything back to number 5, gaslighting. Right? The vaccination discrimination is huge, and we we see that in cases that are throughout 2021 and 2022 and 2023. But, it really kicked in about the time that the Biden administration started saying things like we're running out of patience with you people that are unvaccinated. It's gonna be a dark winter. This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. You started seeing a level of cruelty and discrimination of people based on vaccine status, mocking, verbal, physical abuse. I I had a nurse actually hit me for being unvaccinated in which I said, if your shot were exactly like it. So that is a huge we hear that all the time. And then, you know, rapid oxygen increase. I didn't know when I was in the hospital that that, you know, the oxygen that oxygen can be used to help you. It can be used to kill you. My husband knew that because he he had been an RN in a in an emergency room. So as he watched what they were doing with the oxygen, he knew I was in trouble. Another commonality is the refusal to communicate. Doctors, nurses, hospital staff will not communicate with family, with the advocates. And so there's there's the family is really left in the dark. They can't get in to see their loved 1. They call. They're berated for calling, and nobody will give them information. And then they want them to make these critical life, life and death decisions with no information. They will call them at 03:00 in the morning. We have to intubate. Now we need your permission to intubate now, and they haven't even spoken to the pay they're making these they're forced to make these decisions with with no little or no information. And it's intentional, quite honestly. It's very intentional. Then another commonality, dehydration and starvation. I went with for 7 days without water. I had to trick somebody into getting me some water. And then after that, I just after the 1 glass of water, I only got ice chips for the remainder. I 13 days without any nutrition or or food. They try to give you diuretics or laxatives and to to, you know, to you know, I experienced that too. And so and then restraint abuse is an is another 1 where there if if patients start to, I don't fight back, I guess, or push back, they use chemical restraints and then physical restraints. They will they will they will drug them with Ativan or, you know, some kind of strong, you know or they'll they'll threaten them. And I I see I think Charlene is on here. And, Charlene, I think I think, you've been sent an invite to speak, and she can talks talk about some of that because her mom her mom was, was abused with the threat of restraints just simply for, you know, like, just not agreeing with the doctor. It was cons you know, it was this constant, if you don't behave, I'm gonna restrain you or if you she's an old lady. So that's 6: That's what they did. They did. They had my mom in restraints for 11 hours at at minimum. They did a couple, you know, releases, you know, let her move move her her arms or her wrist around. But at the same at the same time, when they when they had her restraint, they did give her Ativan. And and, at that same time, she wasn't her oxygen, I found out, was out of the wall. And, I actually have a a a incriminating 3 minute audio, of crimes against my mom. You know? And, yeah, it's it's disgrace. 1: Talk a little bit. Tell people a little bit about because that that audio that you have, talk a little bit about the the the denial of, basic needs like water and nutrition. Talk about like that what happened with your mom because the the the it's criminal. 6: It it it really is. And I I didn't find that audio until 6 months after she was out of the hospital. It she accidentally must have it wasn't an intentional recording, and the timing of it was incredible. And so in it, she's begging for water, begging. And you could hear how weak she is in the audio, and the doctor's in the room, and she's begging them to take the restraints in the in the audio, she's telling the doctor how the the nurse is torturing her. She's not getting water. That the whole time in there, she's hiding food under the bed because they weren't she was so weak. She couldn't open the food to eat it, and then they would just take it away. They wouldn't help her. And so when somebody else would come in the room that seems to be a little bit of kind to her, which was rare, she would ask them to help her, open up the food so she could eat. So she was begging for water. She didn't have the nurse's button. They intentionally kept that away from her. And, like I said, she was restrained, and and they gave her Ativan at the same time. 1: And, you know, while while you're talking, since we got you talking, Charlene, and I know you're probably tired from the day you had, can you, you wanna do you wanna talk a little bit just a little bit about the, you know, your your story? Because you you you had somebody killed by the protocol and somebody survived the protocol. 6: Right. Yeah. So, both both my parents went in the hospital at the same time. And, my they wanted to put my stepdad on a ventilator. Initially, I said no. And then they said, you know, the whole thing. You know? Well, you know, he's got a better chance if if we put him on, the ventilator. If not, he's his heart's gonna give out on him, you know, as long as he need a rest. And, so I talked to the family. We we did put him on a ventilator. And, I get, you know, he's he's he's doing okay. And and, then 1 day, I get this nurse. And my mom meantime is in, you know, in another area of the hospital in supplemental oxygen. And I get this nurse on the phone and he says to me, you know, your parents wouldn't be in this situation if they got vaccinated. And then then he just went off saying, are you vaccinated? Did you get COVID? Would do you live with your folks? 4: And and I'm like, who 6: do you think you are? So at about a hour later, I talked to the doctor, and I said to the doctor, I said, this nurse does not have the right mindset to take care of my stepdad. And I told the doctor what the nurse said. And he said, oh, no. She she's not, you know, me he's not meaning that to, probably educate you. And I said, I know the educate you. And I said, I know the difference between education and lecturing, and he was lecturing me. So my stepdad, from then, you know, went downhill, and he died the next day. And they called me on the phone why my stepdad was coding. For 7 minutes, they had me on the phone counting in 2 minute increments that his heart hasn't started yet. And then and then finally, after 7 minutes, it started, and then he, they called me back and they said, oh, he's coded again. And that was 4 minutes on the phone that I had to listen to this. And I was just like, why aren't you in there doing something about it? So then they called me back, and they after they said they gotta settle him, get him comfortable, and they called me back and said that, you know, this is a pattern. Obviously, he's gonna keep coding. Do you want us to, you know, continue to resuscitate? And they wanted me to put him on, as down as a a DNR. And, and, they said I said, well and she said, well, we probably broke all his ribs, and, he's probably suffering and in a lot of pain. So, my my stepsister and I made that decision that if he does code, to let him go. With my mom, you know, that her her she they had her isolated for 25 days. And, and what's real brutal about that is they tested her the first time when she got admitted, and then they they never tested her again. And, I found out later I mean, the things you find out in the medical records is is, like, incredible. They they didn't care to hide anything. And so I found out that, that a nurse went in at 1AM in the morning. The the day the day that she was set to to be taken out of isolation, the 20 21 days. And, and I and I'd asked the doctor to take her out of isolation. He put that order in, and this nurse went in at 1AM. She wasn't caring for for my mom, and she went in and put my mom down as a COVID positive. And they never tested her again. They kept her in isolation for 4 more days after that, and they knew my mom was going downhill. They knew it. And they they just were pushing her over the edge. And it's you know? So I you know, by time I got her home I mean, there's so much more to it, but by time I got her home from the hospital, she couldn't eat, she couldn't drink, she couldn't pee, she couldn't poop, she couldn't move her head side to side. That's how they sent her home home to me. Yeah. She wasn't like that when she went in. 1: That's how they sent me that's how they sent me well, that's how my the condition I was in when very much when my 0: Yeah. 1: When my family got me out, yeah, when they rescued me. 6: Well, yes. Well, you and what you and Huckleberry went through. I mean, like, when he got you home, I mean, how heroic is that? My god. Nobody could have done that. That I mean, it just amazes me how he how he handled things once he got you home. 1: Yeah. So yeah. And so for people who don't know, my family, you know, we I I was saying that the hospital is gonna murder me in on the twelfth day that I was in the hospital. Well, my daughter and my husband were advocating fiercely for for me, and they they couldn't get in. But on the twelfth day that I was in the hospital, my husband came up with a senate bill that we have in Texas and that says you basically you know, that patients shouldn't be can't you you you can't ban them from having a religious counselor even if it's a family member. And he came down there, and and, they wouldn't let him in. And he and he he called the, he called 911 to get the sheriff down, but they sent the police. And and this is Plano, Texas. We're in, you know, Redist City in the Redist County Of Texas. And, the police came down. They didn't wanna do they didn't enforce it. They didn't enforce the law and help and get him into my room even though I said I wanted him in there. And then, he asked them to do a welfare check. They said, what? There she's fine. She's in a hospital. And he said, no. She's not. I wouldn't ask I wouldn't have asked you to do a welfare check if she was fine. And the police officer finally put on some PPE. He stood at the door. He wouldn't come in the room. He let the nurse the the nurse, the abuser basically stay in the room while he asked me if I was okay. And, and I I I told him everything. I had I had 1 shot, and I told him I was the abuse and the neglect that was happening in the hospital. And I said, if I stay here, they're gonna murder me. And the police officer said, oh my god. We don't have a a protocol for this, and he and he left me there. And, I I thought, well, I'm dead. Like, I I stayed awake all night. I looked at it. I I wouldn't let them put anything in my IV that I didn't read, because I was scared. I stayed awake. And my husband called me the next morning, and he said, at 7AM. And he said, is anybody can anybody hear you? And I said, no. And he said, I'm gonna come I'm gonna take you out home hospice. I found somebody that will serve as a as a as an, somebody, that will serve as an adviser, and I'm going to, take you out, home hospice. And if you wanna come, do you wanna do you want me to do that? And I said, well, hell yeah, because, I'm I'm a dead woman if I stay here. And I said, I don't know how you're gonna get in with the ICU locked. And he said, I'll figure it out. And when he got there, the security guard that always stopped him wasn't sitting at his desk. It's a god thing. Wasn't sitting at his desk. He walked in. He threw a he dropped a, cease and desist order from our attorney on the desk to the young, security guard that was sitting there that didn't know him, and he said, I'm gonna go get my wife. And the security guard was like, okay, sir. And he the elevator doors were open, so he got on them really quick. The old security guard came around the corner as the door shut. My husband, he's cocky. He waved, went up, and, he the doors were unlocked. The doors were not locked on the ICU, and he was able to get in and get in my room very quickly. And they, followed him in, and they said, you you need to leave. You you need to leave. And he said, I'm not going anywhere. You're not gonna kill my wife. She's not your guinea pig. I'm taking her home today. And, you know, and I when he walked in, I said, there's my huckleberry. That's how he got his name, huckleberry, because he stormed the ICU. And, and we had a 6 hour standoff with the police. That's kind of what you're talking about, Charlene. Like, we had a 6 hour standoff with the police. I I kept saying, I'm either a patient or a prisoner, and you guys are gonna have to decide today. And we had some help in, you know, from a senator who kinda helped navigate the process. He called my husband, and he said if they force you to leave, please just leave peacefully, and we'll find another way to get her out. And, so my husband was like, yes, sir. I'll do that. Then when he hung up the phone, he said, they're gonna have to tase me and drag me out of here because I ain't leaving without you. So, yeah. And so so my husband had set up they tried to gaslight me to stay. You're gonna die by the night if you go, and they tried to get my family to pull you know, they they said her lungs are shot. She's, you know, she she's not gonna make it. You you need to just let her go, which clearly isn't true because I'm doing this thing right now. My lungs are fine. And, and so, you know, they lied, and they tried to gaslight us, and we just we just wouldn't accept it. And my husband and my daughter, it took them a lot to save me. They had oxygen and all the things they needed at home. And my husband being an RN, that played into it. That was, you know, his experience put him in a position to do that, but that's that that's about, you know, it took a lot it took a lot to, took a took a lot of courage to be saved. And, you know, for he was fortunate that he could get in. And so, you know, speaking and the police thing the police, that's another commonality. It we would it's, you would think that that when I when I tell people or when I show them the videos my daughter took of the police standoff and the pictures or when people read my story in epic times or, like, Children's Health Defense just did the story. It it sounds crazy. Like like, wow. That that's like a 1 in a 1 in a million thing, but police and security involvement is a commonality. A lot of families are threatened with arrest. They're threatened, I mean, little old ladies, doesn't matter. They're threatened. It's it's very common. So common we put it on the top 25. And I think, so, Andy, I think you you're muted, but I think we can can attest if you I don't if you can come off mute and maybe talk a little bit about what happened in your case with regard to, all of this. 5: Absolutely. Thank you for letting me, speak. Well, hello, everyone. My name is Andy Kitsanes, and, I'm unfortunately a victim of this circumstance that we're all here tonight. And, in a nutshell, in March of 20 21, my fight my family was, forced to watch my father die through glass very violently with the presence of a policeman. Man. You know, I was threatened and assaulted by Baylor police while it happened. And, you know, but, yeah, there's there's a lot of that. It's it's it's actually blown me away how many other people I run into who experienced similar, you know, COVID, COVID cases where they're in a hospital setting and the police separate them from their family and they're, you know, leave right now. We're gonna arrest you. And it's it's amazing. It's so common. So amazing. Just amazing. So back to you, Gil. 1: Yeah. So, I don't know. Did you wanna did you wanna say anything else about about your case with regard to, some of these things that I've gone through so far? I haven't gone through all of the 5: Yeah. Absolutely. So, you know, I I I don't wanna I I mean, it's a it's a really big story. You know, there's an executive summary that I put together. I made a website about it. It's called death@baylor.com. My handle is health warrior 86 on Twitter, and now called x. But, my father was a Baylor doctor. And he and, basically, the Baylor name, Baylor Scott White wasn't really Baylor Scott White in 1984. It was just Baylor. And there were only 3 hospitals in Texas when he showed up. And the 1 in Grapevine, Texas, which is the 1 they murdered him, he helped build that Baylor. And, to the day he was no longer here, he sent the business. So, just to give you an idea who he was, he was an otolaryngologist, head and neck surgeon. I was the first baby born in that hospital when it was built, back in or in the outpatient department, excuse me, in '86 in '86. So, you know, there's a history there. But the administrator at the time didn't give a flying hoot who we were, who my dad was. He was just a, I guess, just a tyrant. But in a nutshell, this administrator orchestrated the violent death of my dad and involved the, Baylor police to do it. But what's interesting is this man is nowhere to be found now. He was, he ran away to Arkansas and is now, he tried to be an administrator there. But because of my efforts and because of what I said to his new employers about my website and what he was doing, he's he's gone now. So, you know, there is some justice that's been done, but I still think there needs to be a trial for my dad and for everyone else that went through this. But, you know, the night my dad coded, you know, like everyone else, we're we're we're separated from the family. My dad was in the hospital for a total of 6 days. He he texted me 1 day saying, you know, he where he where he was in for a couple days, and he says, you know, I feel fine. I feel like nothing happened. A few days later, he's dead. And, you know, they they really did everything they could to probably kill him. You know, 4 rounds of remdesivir, fentanyl, every 4 hours it was administered. It's in his chart. Every 4 hours the day before he was to they killed him. And, on top of that, they, tied him in restraints. Now here's the crazy part. The nurse that violently ended his life, her name is Sarah Gress. So Sarah did all these terrible things to him, tied him in restraints, chemically induced him with, God knows what, purple fall or his chart has a lot of stuff. But, in the end, you know, she violently ended his life in front of us. And after right as this happened, as this happened in front of my mother, because I was already removed from the ICU, my mother was screaming, stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. So she finally stops. My dad's lifted his chest off the table and then his body seizure. And then she turned off all the machines in front of my mom and my sister, traumatizing them for life. Now, I'm gonna tell you something right now. When you do this to somebody, the aftermath, the emotional harm it does to someone, the, the arbitrary behavior of the administrator, all of this, it created a humongous, nightmare in my life. And, I had to put my whole life on hold to keep my mother alive. I almost had to institutionalize her. It was that bad. And, but, you know, my goal is my story along with everyone else's story who is willing to tell a story, get the word out there. Tell people that this needs to stop because this is happening to lots of people. I have a really I my story is really bad. K? They're all bad, but, you know, this should be a reference point. K? This needs to be you know, this this is what we did last time. This didn't work. The the science is there. The evidence is there. K? Let's let's try it this way next time, if there is a next time. So I'm gonna pass the mic to whoever wants to speak next, but check out my website, death@baylor.com. Tell everyone you know. The more people that know, the less likely this will happen again. Again. Thank you for 1: your time. Thanks, Andy. And Andy's, interview, you can see his interview also on chbmp.org under Texas and Charlene's interview under New Jersey. And Lisa Butler, who was speaking earlier, her full interview is on CHBMP under Texas as well, and along with so many other interviews that, are out there. So, so that's some examples of these 25 commonalities that that we found. There's also things like, being denied, family being denied the right to view the body after death, which is, or any access to them as they were dying, also the denial of clergy or last rights at the time of death, refusing to transfer to another hospital. You know? They they sort of, you know, they they sort of they what we've noticed is when the family starts to want a transfer, they don't wanna give up the money. That's really what it comes down to. I'm just gonna say it. The refute they refuse to transfer or change doctors, or they make it very difficult. And they we've actually seen many cases where they have, escalated the death by by lethal doses of, like, morphine, fentanyl, and and other drugs, Prezadex. And, yeah, so so we've seen that the neglect, the, you know, basic care, lack of basic care, grooming, bathing, linen changes, which typically will lead to things like a like hospital acquired infections, like sepsis MRSA, pressure sores, you know, bed sores, skin tears, necrosis, those types of things, and those are very common. And then, you know, just sort of scaring and confusing the family. 6: Psychological warfare. 1: Yeah. It super it it really is. That's a that's a great it is psychological warfare. And and and the victims themselves often have a perception that's that they're going to be killed. I certainly did. I was telling everybody that would listen to me that I'm going to be murdered in the hospital, and I you know, I've done I've done interviews, and probably 1 of the most heartbreaking inter interviews is, a mother had told me I think her son was 21. And when she got his phone back after he had been killed in the hospital, she said he had texted 1 of some of his friends a couple days before he died, and he said, I I don't think they want me to leave. I think they're going to kill me. And, so the the victim, they feel like the hospital staff is somehow torturing them or going to kill them. And then another commonality, of course, is unqualified staff treatment, you know, like treatment by foreign, or travel doctors and nurses, FEMA doctors or nurses. And Charlene can probably speak on this a little better. But if you if you're not aware of Operation Nightingale, you should make yourself aware of it. It is it started off with 3 nursing schools that, that foreign students bought their credentials from, their license their, their degree and their transcripts, started off with 3, and they suspected about 7,500 nurses across 5 states. Now it's up to 9 schools and over 20,000 nurses and respiratory therapists that are probably unqualified, didn't even go to class, just bought their stuff, and, and it's across 12 states. So 0: Yeah. 6: It's it's crazy. New Jersey, where I am, is is 1 of those is, we had the recruiters here. And what and, there's, like, maybe a half a dozen of them that actually got arrested, that were, like, the, recruiters. And the 1 guy owned 1 of the schools. And what what what they were doing too is they were changing the names of the schools. Like, I mean, 1 of them was probably a little difficult for me to pronounce, but then they would change it to, like, sun, sun, Sunshine Academy. So it looks like it looked like there was, like, 11 of them, but it like you're saying, it's 7. And then, I was actually listening to the hearings in New Jersey. And what was do is it alright if I, it goes through 1: that 1? Yeah. I think you should. I think it's I think it people need to be aware of this in case any of these people were taking care of their loved 6: ones. Yeah. Very. Very. It's it's so when I was listening to the hearing, there was, people from, like, Jamaica, Nigeria, and 1 of the and the 1 of the guys who own the school in Florida is Liberian. Right? He was 1 of the owners of the school and the recruiter. And so, when I listened to the hearings, the nurses would try to say, you know, like, they went they went, to they flew to Florida, and they went and took classes once a month for, like, 3 days. They were, like, 12 hour days. And then so they did other other classes online, and then they would do some clinical, and some didn't. I mean, it was they they tried to say that this is what the school told them, so it's, like, not their fault. But see, they got caught in their own lies. But just to say, like, in the state of New Jersey, nursing license. Okay. And if you don't pass the test 3 times, 0: that's it. 6: You're done. But if you what they were doing was taking the test in New York, because in New York, you don't have to be American citizen. And you could take the test as many times as you want. And these gals that I was listening to took the test 4 to 6 times before they passed. And then and then they would go and get endorsements from different states. Like, the 1 gal that took care of my mom that put her in restraints, I can't find her. I gotta find her. But she went she had a license in Philly, New Jersey, Michigan, and Georgia. Michigan, and Georgia. Wow. The school was telling them to do all this, and I believe it's so they could move around so we couldn't catch them. 1: Yeah. The travel nurses. 6: Right. Yeah. So so there there's a there there there's thousands upon thousands of them, and they're not finished yet. They rescinded their licenses, but they haven't had their hearings 0: yet. 6: But, you know, I mean, at this point, they I just feel like they're gonna they're gonna just, you know, drop it, and then they're gonna go into the wind. And the thing too is some of their names, they've been cutting in half. So that makes it a little bit hard to find them too. It's a mess. 1: Yeah. That very true. So that's a, you know, that that's that's a commonality too is, you know, these unqualified. Some of the doctors too have gone to schools that were the doctor in my case, for example, went to a school that was busted for selling transcripts and medical life medical degrees, and so we don't even know if he's a real doctor. Certainly didn't act like a real doctor. I think at 1 point, I accused him of not being a doctor. So, Sherry, I I think you're muted, but I do you wanna say you know, I've I've read through the the the the 25 commonalities, and you've heard other people speak. Is there I'm I'm just do you wanna speak about your story and the things that happened to your family and the things that you've been doing? 4: Yeah. Sure. I can. Can you hear me? Yep. 3: We can hear you. 4: Wow. That's a miracle. It's not supposed to work on a laptop. I was looking into it today, and it's working on the laptop and not on my phone. And I will just try to do the brief overview of what happened with my husband in September of 20 21. He developed a sinus headache, and a low grade fever. On September 10, he went, we went to this to the doctors together, and he tested positive for COVID. So I had them test me. I tested positive for COVID, and, they gave us a, referral for monoclonal antibodies. Other than the low grade fever and the sinus headache, he did not feel that bad. They sent us home because, apparently, I believe we're gonna find eventually that part of the protocol is to send the people home. You hear the doctors that are being honest about this, pointing out that we've never ever dealt with an illness where it was not treated early. Right. Enough said. So on Tuesday of the following week. Oh, don't skip the monoclonals. So the the monoclonal infusion company, lab called me on Sunday. We were diagnosed on a Friday. They called me on Sunday. Wanted to set up an appointment. Either of us was feeling any any worse. And I questioned, you know, what will happen if if we or he, because he was the 1 with the headache. I had no symptoms. I remained asymptomatic the entire time until my smell and taste went away a week in. And so they said, well, you know, it is like adding, duplicate amount of antibodies to the system. So, you know, that's part of the reason why you have to hang around for an hour or so. And I said, well, how much longer can we wait? Well, you know, is this something we need to get within the first 3 or 4 days? Oh, no. No. You've got 10 days. I said, so that's it. I've got 10 days as long as as we fit the 10 days? Yes, ma'am. So they called me Monday, and, again, the same the same conversation. You've got 10 days. On Tuesday, we went to another doctor's office, and that doctor felt that his oxygen level was going down. So he prescribed him oxygen. He prescribed me oxygen too, and I was, like, you know, ready to go mop the floor or something. And so we go home. The oxygen's delivered, and he was a gadget guy. He immediately starts playing with the oxygen, and and he ended up wearing it all night. And I decided, you know what? I can't stand the sound of that oxygen machine in this room. Something is just not right. Because we were told that you might have some problems breathing. Just turn your AC down because cold air, being that it was September in the South, cold air is easier to to breathe. I called the monoclonal lander potty place the next day. This was Wednesday. And they said, oh, sure. Well, we've got a few doses left. You're lucky you called. We don't know when the next delivery will come. In the conversation, while I can hear tippy tapping on the computer, we're talking, and I said something to the effect I believe it was me that brought it up. If I hadn't done this, this we might not be talking. I said, yeah. He he the the doctor yesterday gave him oxygen, so I just I feel really nervous listening to that oxygen machine. And he said, oh, if he's on oxygen, you can't he can't have it. And I said, what do you mean he can't have it? You didn't tell me about this the last 3 times we've talked. And he said, no, ma'am. Once the oxygen machine goes on, we can't we can't give you can't can't give a patient monoclonal antibodies. And so I called the the doctor's office that gave me the monoclonal antibody referral. They knew nothing about that fitting the bill of. So they couldn't help me. They said you have to go to the emergency room. And I called the doctor's office that gave us the oxygen, and it was the first time they'd ever heard of it. And they were willing to give us another referral to a different place. Call this place. If they have a, appointment, make the appointment. I will send over the referral. I'll fax it to them immediately. Okay. I call them. They have no appointments because they have no monoclonal antibodies. They don't know when the next shipment's gonna happen. This is when this was in Tennessee. This is when the Biden administration decided that southern states like Tennessee and Georgia and Texas were using up too many monoclonal antibodies, and they stopped shipping them. So it was Thursday morning when he couldn't get out of bed without holding onto the wall. He couldn't stand up without help. And so I yeah. He was a big man. He was 6 foot 4, and I'm only 5 3, 5 4. So, I was afraid he would fall on me, and then both of us would be down. So I had to call the ambulance. I couldn't drive him to the hospital. And, of course, once they had him in the hospital, they, of course, left you know, I had to stay in the parking lot. Finally, they came and got me, and they said, you know, your husband needs to go into the ICU, but he refuses to leave the emergency room until he gets to see you. So they had to gown me up, and, he seemed to be in good spirit. The oxygen was helping him because, apparently, the the little oxygen home oxygen pumps, they couldn't do enough. And, you know, this is in the hospital, so they had him either on the tank or on the wall. And he seemed to be in good spirits, and he was trying to, you know, make the best of it. And the doctor comes in, and we have a brief conversation. And I turned to him, and I said, so what what are you gonna do? What what kind of medications are you gonna use? And he said, well, we're gonna get him upstairs and get him situated, and we're gonna start him on remdesivir. And I did not know for sure. But in my mind, I could think all I could think of was that's not good stuff. And I could only remember that I thought it killed organs. And I was specific about the kidney disease, but the problem was I had I went looking for the article on it, and it was the 1 that doctor Artis had written. And it was just pulled off of the Internet completely. It had been in my messenger from a friend. So I put my back to my husband because he couldn't hear. And I told that doctor, no. You cannot give him that. No. I do not approve. 5: Is that what Chelsea? 4: That that will kill his organs. 1: So it's Sherry said. 4: And he can't. 1: Sorry, Sherry. 4: It's okay. Anyway, they started the remdesivir that night. They started the Ativan that night. Over the I I couldn't talk to him. I didn't realize how much Ativan they were giving him. And, when I did talk to him, he could he couldn't text me because he couldn't wear his glasses on top of the BiPAP mask. He couldn't talk to me when he was on the BiPAP mask easily. I couldn't understand him, and I thought he was slurring, and I just I couldn't understand what was going on. I just assumed it was the mask. The nurses seemed like they were pretty attentive. They would at least let me call, you know, after nurse the shifts would end, and I'd wait a little bit, and then I'd call. And so the following Tuesday night well, Wednesday morning. Tuesday, not Tuesday morning. It was Tuesday at, like, 01:30 in the morning. I get a call. We're gonna have to innovate him. And they had already gone through the pressure of trying to get me to make him do not resuscitate. They had already gone through the pressure of trying me to get to sign up immediately when he was in the emergency room to get the permission for ventilation, and I wouldn't do either 1. And I said, I am reachable 24 hours a day. I will not make that decision. That will be made at the time. We are not giving you I'm not giving you any blanket permission to do anything. Course, I was arguing with them over the phone and sending emails, and I wanted ivermectin. I wanted hydroxychloroquine. I wanted you know, I tried to describe couldn't remember the name of it. I tried to describe a an inhaled steroid, and they laughed at me, which I now know is budesonide. I I know way too much more than I need to know these days. So, they let me talk to him when they called me and said he needed to be intubated. And I just was sitting there in my dark house, couldn't do anything. And about 15 minutes later, the nurse calls me back and said, well, he settled down now. We will let it go for the night. We're not gonna innovate him right now. Okay. What I didn't know was that's the night they started him on Presidex. And for people who are on this call that don't know anything about Presidex, it is the medication that you give a patient prior to intubation and some surgeries. The insert on that box tells the doctor not to allow the patient to stay on it anymore. I believe 24 hours is the max, but that's at the far end because the the product causes acute respiratory distress syndrome. When Steve was that was on Tuesday morning at 2 or 3 in the morning by the time he'd had that. And some other people were having a court case, and they, they got the right for patients to have family members visit for 2 hours once a day. So I got in there on Thursday. He's now been in the hospital a full week. He didn't recognize me initially, and I put it down to me wearing all of the garb, including this the face shield and the mask. Haneje, he could not focus. And all he kept doing was asking the the the nurse for water and and his medication. And she would say, well, you can't have any water right now, mister Martin. You had some a few minutes ago. And you your your medicine we've already given you your medicine. But he slurred, and I couldn't get over that. So the following morning, I get the call. We need you to come to the hospital immediately. I get over there. He's already agreed to go on the ventilator. And they're telling me it's a couple of days. We need to rest his lungs. He's he's he's liable to have a problem with his heart if he continues to struggle to breathe. And I said to him, are you sure you wanna do this? We talked about you not going on the ventilator, and he nodded, and he said yes. And I said, I'm I'm not I'm not gonna let you stay on the ventilator. I'm gonna, you know, in a couple days, I'm gonna have you off. I said and he said, yeah, in a week or so. And I said, no. It was a couple of days. But I thought he was joking with me. It wasn't until I got his records after the fact that I found out that they had had him on Precedex for 3 days, 3 and a half days. So they just compounded his breathing issues, and they never did any respiratory treatments at all until after he was ventilated. So he never got he didn't get even get albuterol until he was ventilated. So remdesivir was the only thing that they were giving him and some low grade 6 milligrams of dexamethasone. It turns out that 2 nights, they gave him antipsychotics. And I've talked to a doctor since then who says the high volume of oxygen along with these other things that they're giving them, dexamethasone is 1 that supposedly creates anxiety and sometimes some psychosis. So the patients are getting way too much oxygen and it makes them crazy. It makes them hard to handle. And then they end up giving them another, an antipsychotic on top of the sedative that they're already using. Then they're not feeding them and they're not getting any, fluids, and their their blood is thickening up. So he was on the on the vent from the September 24 until the October 10. And at that point, when they called me, they were having a problem with him desaturating, and his blood pressure was on was unstable. They wanted me right away. And I get over there. I have found out that they had already of course, he'd already been he's on the vent. He's he's paralyzed, and he's unconscious. He's on fentanyl and midazolam, and they had turned him over. It was the first time I saw him prone since the morning after he was ventilated. And he's facing away from me. I can't get to the other side of the bed because I had fought to have a specific type of dialysis that was 24 7 because they tried to pull it completely. They tried to take the dialysis off of him and put him in palliative care on the October 5, and I fought it and got the nephrologist to give us a CRRT machine for 24 7 slow dialysis. Obviously, that didn't do enough to get the fluids off. So he, I'd he I called his best friend on my way to the hospital that morning, and I said, I think I need you to come because I don't think Steve's gonna make it through the day the way they're talking. And they I got there, and I told this nurse, I've got Steve's best friend coming. Can he come in the hospital? And he just kinda looked at me for a second, and he said, yeah. Sure. I'll make sure it's okay. And I said, okay. And I I went in to be with Steve. Based on the time frame that from when they called me and told me I needed to come to the point where he then received another paralytic, vecuronium. That nurse probably gave it to him while I was coming down the hallway. And I think that when I said Mike was on the way, he panicked. And because for the next hour, hour and 15 minutes, he kept playing with all of the the the the equipment on the IV tree. And finally, Steve's heart just stopped. What a lot of the people on this call don't know, because we're talking about the human part of what's happened here. 2: Yeah. 4: There's things that that that people on here may not know. When you take your loved 1 to the hospital or they go to the hospital, this is true through the September. The hospital gets a bonus when they test a positive patient. They get a bonus for putting them in a regular room. This is tax dollars. It comes out of the CARES Act money. It's distributed by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. This is part of your tax dollars that were determined by the congress and handed to CMS to dole out to hospitals. So the the regular room is a bonus. IC room ICU room is a bigger bonus. Remdesivir is a 20% bonus. This all goes on top of the bill your insurance company or Medicare or Medicaid pays. This is bonus money for the hospital, just like a commission. So there's a bonus of 20% based on the top the entire hospital bill, not the cost of the remdesivir, 20 percent bonus on remdesivir. Then there's a percentage added for venting the patient for a minimum of 96 hours. And that's stated in his in my husband's paperwork about the protocol requiring a 96 hour minimum. That ventilation bonus has been rumored to be at least $39,000 per patient. I have not found the paperwork on it, but supposedly, there's a been a been a bonus for the sedation. Keeping in mind, in April of 20 20, the prison systems in The United States were asked to please forward all of their end of life death row lethal injection medications to the hospitals because the hospitals were gonna need that. 1: Yeah. It's kinda you know, I mean, the amount of money the sheer amount of money and the greed is all is all very much part of this. And, when when we think about over the course of this pandemic, the from 2020, to to right to date. And if anybody thinks these protocols are not happen are not still happening, they are still happening. We still get calls from people needing help, who who are either trying to stay out of the hospital or going to the hospital. But they also there's they're trying to scare people about RSV and trying to push remdesivir as protocol for that. So they they're they're still when after the incentives, they're still you know, there's even when those end at the September, if they even end, there's there's always gonna be that next thing. But as we look back, you know, they they demonized they worked hard to demonize the very protocols that were were saving lives, the the ivermectin, the hydroxychloroquine, and the budesonide, and good old fashioned vitamins. And, there's many studies out at a site called I I kinda it's called, I'm gonna tell you right now. C19early.org. There's tons of studies, and they show you when these studies were done over the course of the last 3 years. And so you can see, you know, in 2020, there was plenty of evidence that, that showed remdesivir was all risk and no reward and that things like I mean, even melatonin and iodine outperforms outperforms remdesivir in these studies. And so the it's not like they didn't know. They knew. And they they demonized the drugs, and they demonized the doctors. There's like you know, doctor McCullough, we were at an event last week with doctor McCullough, and he said he made a very good point. He said, that there's a there's approximately 1,000,000 doctors in America And a little over 500 doctors stood in the gap for this million doctors and worked tirelessly to save lives with the with the FLCCC protocols and other protocols that were effective, and they're tired. They're really tired. So, they're getting attacked. They've been attacked. They've been you know, they've had credentials stripped from them. Pierre core Corey just 0: had, 1: some 1 of his certifications or something stripped from him. And He 4: and he and Ulmerich both were Yeah. 0: Right. 4: Slammed at the same time. 1: Yeah. And it was for, there's this consensus consensus science that they're you know, if there's not a consensus, you can't believe it. It's instead of evidence based, it's very scary. If you if you haven't if you haven't seen what's happening if people haven't aren't paying attention to what's happened to these doctors, they need to. But there's been about 500 of these doctors. And so the 1 thing, in my opinion, this is just Gayle Seiler talking here, and this is what I've done. These doctors are tired, so make sure you're prepared for every single wave. How if I had known I could have all of these medications in my cabinet ready to take if I got sick, I never would have had to go to the hospital for the lack of oxygen because I would have had them, and I wouldn't have gotten sick waiting for them when when the government made it hard for the for me to get those. So, Yeah. So, I also want to invite you know, if if anybody has a story or they want to chime in on on this on the hospital homicides or the protocols or, you know, maybe you got a question or whatever, feel free to, you know, just request I guess you just request the, access to speak in the little corner there. 4: Yeah. We have we have a number of people on here whose names I recognize 0: Yeah. 4: Who have stories. 1: Yep. I'm seeing them. So, yeah, anybody who who who wants to speak, just just do that. So 4: I'd like, Gail, I'd like to to to point out that some people are looking at what happened in the courtroom this week when doctors Merrick, Talley, and Aftar are they had their appeal, and a lot of people are thinking that the FDA has now cleared ivermectin because they say, we never told you you couldn't use it. That's not the case. That was only an argument made in the court by the attorney trying to get out of a suit. It's up to the judge to decide whether or not that argument is valid enough to her to dismiss this suit that these doctors have brought. 1: Well, and and when you say that, I just I just wanna make sure everybody understands that ivermectin isn't illegal. A doctor can prescribe ivermectin, and there are pharmacies that will fill ivermectin and all of that. But that but there there's so much demonization about it that it it's it's hard to get that to happen. It's hard to find a doctor other than those 500 plus doctors that are that are brave enough to say, no. I'm gonna prescribe what what's gonna save patients, not kill them. But just I just don't want people to think that that that a judge 0: is Well, 6: the the pharmacies, though, are are are preventing people from getting it too. 1: Well, there there are but there are pharmacies that will fill it, and you need to the and the FLCCC has a list of those pharmacies on their on their they have the providers, and then they also have the pharmacies. And most of the pharmacies that are filling it are the, apothecaries or the, compounding pharmacies, the old fashioned, you know, compounding pharmacies. It's it's expensive if you get it that way. But, but, yeah, they're they're you can get it. It's not illegal. 4: Exactly. It's not. But until something changes, and the the you have to be prepared. You have to have your medications and everything that you need to have in your house in the event you get sick. And since ivermectin seems to have a really, good profile for helping with things like, you know, the common cold and the flu because the it's not that it cures it. It helps your body help itself. So, but, you know, anybody listening, get go to the FLCCC.net website and look under protocols, pick out, you know, the, you know, before I get sick or after I right after I get sick, and they list everything that you need and start making yourself a kit. And if you got the wherewithal, make kits for your family. 1: Yeah. Just just so it's, it's critical care I think it's criticalcovid19 critical care Com or something that that is that, that website for the the FLCCC. They they have protocols for everything. They have a flu protocol. They've got a, COVID protocol. They've got an RSV protocol. It's pretty much the same. They've got 0: Yeah. 1: Fucking preventative before you get sick, when you get sick. 4: Fl yep. Flccc.net will point you right into it, and it's easy to remember. But the the browser the browser name at the top does change. So, you know, that's where it comes into as the COVID 19 critical care or something, but flccc.net will get you there. That's just 1, but it's an easy 1 because you can print everything out. Another thing that everybody needs to know, if you didn't know already, they have extended the PREP Act all the way through 2024. That would be that was something that was done by our HHS secretary. Does he know something that we don't know? 3: Yep. 1: Of course of course, they know something we don't know. 4: Oh, yeah. There's a for 1 thing, there's an election that year, and they need to be able to slam the door on anybody thinking they can walk in and vote on their own. But the other thing that happens in 2024 is the who expects us to sign that treaty. Ron Johnson was on the TV this morning with Maria Bartiromo saying this can't happen. We cannot allow this to happen. That will we will lose our country's sovereignty, not just over medical care, but everything if we allow the World Health Organization to have full control over what we do medically or health wise, because they will use it for everything and probably even for climate change. 1: Yeah. A lot going on. I mean, I I think I think it was, I wanna say it was Charlene that said it, about the fear campaign. You know, the fear the fear campaign, I always call it the panic porn, right, that they saw on TV. And and where they couldn't you know, it was all it was all to drive an everyone in the nation to get a shot, a shot that was going to, ultimately ruin them, weaken them, kill them, harm them. And we have to look at the the last 3 years. You know, it started with nursing home deaths and, you know, the who they saw were the expendable people and just not treating them and them dying and then, of course, onto the unvaccinated and and just and the where fear didn't work you know, fear worked to a certain certain point. And where fear didn't work, they tried incentives. You know? Here, take this shot, and we'll give you $50. Bring your kids. We'll give you $50 a kid in a gift card. Just win a lottery, whatever whatever carrot they could put in front of your face. And where that didn't work and people were still holding out, they they tried a a club. Right? Like, putting putting, putting language in government contracts to force employer employers to do the bidding of the government with the mandates and threatening people's jobs. And where that didn't work, they they tried to mandate it directly, and that failed. That got, you know, that got shot down. But, you know, people have been abused to the point of, you know, having their kids taken away custody, decisions made based on whether they were vaccinated or not. So there was a lot of fear, incentives, a big club, and it was very effective because, so Lisa Lisa Butler, who was speaking earlier, her husband Earl was killed. But she she's she's a she's a statistic person. Right? So she's been digging into the statistics. And 1 of the things, you know, was that, you know, 80 81 percent of Americans took took 1 shot, and 69 percent of Americans took 2 shots. So it it was it drops off in the, you know, first, second, third, fourth, fifth. I think they're on the seventh booster. So it's kinda dropped with the subsequent boosters, but it was so effective. You can damn sure bet there's gonna be whatever's coming next. It there's always gonna be a new round of of tyranny or oppression. There's always gonna be a new round of this type of thing. It didn't start with COVID. It's not gonna end with COVID. 0: Mhmm. 1: So people do need to, people people need to pay attention. You know, when when this when when everything shut down, our priest sent out a a message to everyone in our in our parish, and he he said something really, profound and correct. He's when the when the government tried to shut their churches down, he said we've entered very dangerous times, very dangerous times in our in our history, and this is not the time for people to seek entertainment. This is the time to seek information, solid information, and remain informed and not entertained. Entertainment does not matter at this point. And so, we try, we're trying to do that. I I know, you know, Sherry and Lisa and Andy and Charlene and everybody who spoke, me and my husband, Huckleberry, his name's Brad. Stu Peters called him Brent Seiler, but his name's Brad. Huckleberry. We call him Huckleberry. But we we work, you know, we work constantly in you know, Chelsea, oh my gosh. The COVID Humanity Betrayal Memory Project. That's that's her brainchild. That's her her labor of love. And if you go out there and you look at those stories, she she's done such, just really a beautiful honor to the to the to the victims of this of this horrible Amazing. Hospital homicide, this this holocaust as you will. So, 2: Gail, I wanted to say something. You sure were talking about statistics. You were mentioning statistics. So, I kinda went down a rabbit hole because my husband was murdered at a HCA hospital, and I kept seeing HCA in the news for we treat 37000000 patients a year. Oh, we've expanded. We've added this. So, I I believe you were the 1 that posted something about following the money and you're you were mentioning earlier about the bonuses and stuff that they receive because they had to report, you know, how many people were in the hospital, who tested tested positive, all of that money. So, I researched HCA, and I found out that they were penalized the last few years before COVID had started and had to pay, I think it was, like, $8,000,000 for an ambulance scheme and another, like, $7,000,000 for for something else. So, you know, if a company I shouldn't say company, but if the hospital is not making money and just had to pay out a lot of fines because they broke protocol or did something wrong, you know, this this is a perfect way for them to make up their losses and then some. And, also, HCA was in the news in Austin, Texas due to a story. It was a mother whose daughter had COVID in the hospital, and they kept gaslighting her to get her out of the hospital, to get her out of the hospital. I mean, I'm sorry. Not to get to, let her go. Put her on the vent and let her go. You know, you needed to unplug her daughter. So within that report, they mentioned that the CEO's bonus is based upon the death in the hospital. So Mhmm. We're seeing a link between before our loved ones passed, they were put on hospice care because that's not that does not is not included in the death tolls in the hospital. So there are many, many layers of, I feel, the corruption and and the whole backstory and how, you know, they're literally making a killing off of your your loved 1 getting in the hospital, not getting out. So 1: Right. And then and I know people will, people I've heard this where people have said, well but why would they put them on hospice so it doesn't count against the death the death count if they get incentives for somebody dying in a hospital, but it's they don't actually go to a hospice facility or or palliative they they that that that bonus money is, they actually get more because they get a palliative care palliative care referral, and we've seen whistleblowers come forward with letters where administrators have said, for COVID patients, you put the you need to put them you're not putting them on palliative care or hospice care early enough, and we're losing a lot of money. It's so the the the money behind this, like you said, is absolutely insane. I think there was also a hospital in in Houston in the Houston area that, got exposed for during co after co after the first year of COVID, they were trying to it was a children's hospital, and they they weren't doing elective surgeries. And so they were trying to, recoup some of the money because kids weren't getting COVID like they thought. And, and they were there was somebody recorded it's out there somewhere. Somebody recorded a, a meeting in which they were talk the administrators that that were they were talking about how easy you could get parents to agree to things like tonsils out or adenoids out or minor surgeries for their kids, especially if they had good health insurance. Nothing was gonna come out of their pocket or very little because parents would do anything for their for their kids. And it was, like, absolutely disgusting that they even, you know, went down the path. I mean, like, you know, having kids get surgeries that weren't even necessary just to recoup some of that money. So, yeah, it's all very much about the money, isn't it? 4: Yeah. So we know we know just from the stories that that that are collected that it seems like there's a day, you know, whether it's 22 days or 30 days after admission, all of a sudden, the family's being pressured for palliative care, comfort care, or hospice. Depending on the hospital, you'll get a different sales pitch. And that because the insurance comp money is running out. Usually, this is with the insured. The insurance money is running out, and so they wanna switch their care so that it's just you know, the bed doesn't change, the room doesn't change, the status changes, which is all it takes to remove that care from that budget, that part of the budget. And that is where the CEO is getting his his bonus from. That's where the metrics for the hospital changes based on how many people died in hospital versus died in hospice even though it's all in the same room. And so that's this is you guys have seen that. You've had, I know you've that I've seen that 1 report where this lady had, doctors who who just faced her off from the other side of their her loved one's bed and and took a piece of paper out and wrote the number 26 on it and handed it to her. And basically, that's how long he's been here. It's time for him to go now. 1: Yeah. The the day that the number of days anywhere. Yeah. The number of days is like, you know, I mean, I there's so many stories out there on CHBMP.org that will blow people's minds. I mean, there's, you know, stories there are stories several stories where men have take husbands have taken, you know, their young wives who were pregnant to the hospital, and, they were given remdesivir, and then the baby's force delivered early, and the mother's killed before they could even hold their babies and killed for they didn't have to die. And those babies are literally the youngest remdesivir recipients because they got it in the womb. Right? So, but those stories are are egregious. Those those mothers were denied things that were safe for pregnancy. Like, I I mean, hydroxychloroquine and budesonide can definitely you know, they they've been give they've given that to pregnant, mothers. I think when my daughter got COVID when she was pregnant, and then the doctor, told her those were the 2 things that she could take for sure. And so, but, you know, to be denied these safe and effective treatments in in it's it's just I mean, and a lot of it is for the sake of being unvaccinated. There was a, 2 stories in Dallas here, 2 interviews that I'd that I'd did for the CHBMP or 1 I sat in on. So 1 was a a a widow who lives not too far from us. She actually went down to Austin with us when we, on the medical freedom bus. But the day her husband went into Dallas Regional, the doctor that was in charge of that unit, he, tweeted out, a statement of he said, me and my staff would not be opposed to seeing the unvaccinated club to death like baby seals. And every day, he tweeted out things like, you know, let I hope the unvaccinated die and let God sort them out. The all those types of things, and and she didn't know that until after her husband was killed in that hospital by the protocols. But she went in and she cut you know, she made copies of all of that. She actually made copies for all the legislators when we went down there. It was a big stack of tweets. That doctor was made to remove the tweets, but he's still in charge of the of that ICU where he is he where he has that mindset of killing, you know, killing the doc. I don't know how doctors lost their virtue if they ever had virtue, but they but they've definitely lost it with accept with the exception of the 500 plus doctors who have stood up and said, we're not going to kill patients and the nurses too. The the nurse is supposed to be this is the 1 thing that, that my husband that Huckleberry gets pissed off about all the time. When I would tell him when he got me home and he I would tell him, oh, there was 1 nice nurse or there was, you know, this nice nurse. He would ask me. There was this I would say that there's there was this 1 good nurse or this other good nurse occasionally, and he would say, did they notice that you did not have nutrition for 13 days? No. Did they notice you didn't have water? Did they notice you didn't have mouth care for 13 days and you had thrush? Did they notice you had a bed sore? Did they notice you weren't cleaned? No. No. No. No. Did they notice what what was everything I said, and he said stop calling him a good nurse because the nurse is supposed to be the primary advocate of the patient. They are supposed to stand between the patient and harm, and they are not a good nurse. He my husband was a good nurse. And, and so, he, you know, he would say stop. So so the nurses too, there's nurse there are nurses that stood up, and they, advocated for patients. They either lost their job or or they blew you know, they're whistleblowers. Those are good nurses. Those are those are good nurses. But it the ones that are still hanging the bags, they're they're guilty. They're they're so they're guilty of the deaths that are happening. And so, and I I I also you know, I did an interview the other night with an Australian radio station. I stayed up late. I said it was 01:00 my time, but, apparently, my story had gotten to a politician out there, and then it started getting spread around. So I I it was an interesting interview, but, where was I going with that? Oh, but we were taught he they have, you know, some of the same they have some of the same you know, the protocol desks are all over the place there too. And, and and so the there's this you know, these nurses that won't stand up and these doctors that won't stand up. So it's it's really it's a it's it's so prevalent in The United States, but it's a global issue. I mean, we looked at, you know, some other data that Lisa put together. She she's a master at pulling data together. We looked at the the rate of death or the deaths and then the place of death. Right? And so out of out of 1600000.0, people that were killed, only a hundred and 67000 of those people, died at home. So, like, the majority of those people died in a health care facility, whether it was, a hospital, a nursing home, or a rehab, which now have become vent farms for, you know, the people who are on vents. So, so 4: yeah. That makes me wanna ask another question, and I don't know whether Lisa can can find this detail. But of those what was it? A hundred and 67000 people that died at home, Is there any way to tell whether they died at home after returning 1: home? Right. I thought about that, and I I bet you some of them I mean, because we, you know, look at the story the stories that are out there on CHBMP. The the interviews that we've done, there's quite a quite a few of those where people, get rescued or they leave the hospital or, 4: you know, what Or they're just released and they're not there's no supportive Yeah. You know, care. 2: I I can look to see if I can find something. I do know that some of the information on the websites where I was getting the data, the CD and C and stuff, they were they planned on taking it down Mhmm. I believe in in May. So I don't know. It it did not go in that depth of detail, but I'm sure I can do some digging to see. But what I what what's remarkable that when I came across that, it tells you 1 thing. You know, they told you to stay home and everything, and it's like all these people are dying, but then you see they're they're not really dying at home. They're dying in the hospital. Well, what's the difference between your care at home and being in a professional place with, you know, and been working with patients, you know, for a long time. Not all of them, you know, because we have the Operation Nightingale, but, you know, you have some seasoned employees there. 0: Yeah. 2: That's why they go, to get treatment. So it was very eye opening to see the truth between, behind the numbers. The numbers don't lie. I mean, and that's if those are a % reported, you know, I'm sure there's stuff missing, but, you know, just based upon what's there, it confirms that people died in the hospital and what was the difference. It was the treatment. It was the lack of care. It was, you know I mean, and, again, I would encourage if there were some new people on, this Twitter space to if if if they're up for it, to get their loved ones medical records. Because there were multiple times in my husband's records where it said, they did not even when he was on the ventilator, they did not even go and evaluate him, and that was 1 of my biggest concerns. 1: Yeah. 0: Because if 2: he's on the ventilator, you know, I can't be there because they were allowing no visitors. Right? So I didn't get to 4: see him at all when 2: he was in the hospital. But my biggest concern was I can't physically be there. Y'all will not allow me to come. Are you how are you gonna check him? Is there alerts? Are there this or that? And then I see infectious disease doctor in the notes that says, I did not check patient to preserve PP and E equipment. Wait. 4: Oh, jeez. 2: Hold on a second. His life isn't worth the $5 gown? My husband's life was not worth you I have to say up to see him. It was it's in it's in his records a few times, and to me, that is unacceptable. And that That is not the care that I pay for. 1: And that's a commonality that that's a commonality that we've seen. Right, Lisa? So, like, I mean, I I 13 days, the doctor never touched me, never never listened to my lungs, never examined me. They examined they put in the the medic we see it all the time in medical records. It's like, examine them from a distance, examine them from the window, examine them How how is 2: it even so how would 1: they know 2: if how would they know if you're struggling or if you had another situ I mean, my and and they told me my husband was bleeding, out of his mouth and out of, his ears. 1: Yeah. My so Huckleberry will say an ex an examination require to examine a patient requires Assessment. An or to an assess assessing a patient a patient requires you to use your 5 senses, smell, touch, smell. You know you know what the 5 senses are. Right. So 6: And you're a infectious disease doctor. Like, that's why you went into the business, and you're gonna stand outside of a bar look at a my mom said I felt like I was in a fish, 3: like, in 6: a fishbowl. And then 25 days, this infectious disease doctor did that. It's it's it was pure. Yeah. 4: Yeah. It 1: was like being in a zoo. It's deep healing. 2: How how would they know if the patient is getting better or if they're struggling or if there's something going on with them if they don't physical if they physically can't see them? 1: And to 2: me, also, if you if you would you know, if they're treating patients, I would have expected to see a lot more victims that were doctors and nurses and medical staff dying because they were there exposed, you know, right there with the patients. Maybe not all the time, but I would expected those deaths to be higher, and they weren't. 1: Yeah. I mean, the I mean, to answer the question about how do they ex they don't expect the patient to get better. They don't want you to get better. There there is no intent. And I and I I realized that when I was in in when I was in the hospital, that there, you know, there came a time when, they just, you know, they they they push and they push, and there was a time when after a few days, they it was, like, half my halfway in the visit in the in when I was there, they said to my husband, they said, what do you what do you want me to do when she codes? And I was like, I don't feel like I'm gonna code doc. And my husband said, I want you to resuscitate her. She's a full code. And he said, I got I have to vent her then. And he said, no. You don't. You you can bag her, and you can call me, and I'll tell you what to do. I'm never gonna give you that blanket permission to vent her because then something will happen where you'll have to vent her. And he and he said, and I'll never give it to you until I can assess her myself, till I can come up there and assess her myself. And, they wouldn't let him do that. And, so so there there was no intent. There wasn't an intent for me to get out 0: of there. 4: No. Because, you know, the the bonuses are also based on COVID on a death certificate. And then the coroner gets a bonus for signing that death certificate. So what everybody needs to know is when a patient dies of COVID, depending on the state, it will will determine exactly how much extra money that hospital gets. But regardless, if that patient has received everything in the list of protocols and dies, then that patient stood around and said, well, they did they die of COVID or did they die with COVID? Well, it turns out and you have you have all of these interviews. You know it too. A lot of people went into the hospital with legitimate illnesses like heart attacks and strokes and bacterial pneumonia and, what was it, Joe had something, his colon or something was was getting ready to rupture, and they just pretend. It's like, well, you've got COVID. I'm to the COVID floor. 1: Yeah. There's some there there's some like that. I I mean, they we do see a lot of cases where they they ran the test so many times until it came back 0: Mhmm. 1: Until it came back positive. But, but, you know, the 1 thing when I when my when my family stormed the ICU and got me out, the 1 thing that happened right away is people called me who were vaccinated, and they said, are you gonna get the shot now because you almost died? And I said, hell no. Now I'm definitely not gonna get it because I know people are not dying of COVID in the hospital. They they're being they're being killed by the protocol. They're being killed by the medical staff. And I I knew the protocol was was killing people, and, and I I knew I knew the protocol was killing people. But what I didn't count on was the fact that the the hospitals themselves, that the the the institution that is the hospitals had a plan to kill you. Like, that to me, I I can't describe to people who are listening who haven't been been through it how terrifying it is. And I don't scare easy or scare much, but how terrifying it is to lay in a bed, not be able to really move, and know that, that they're trying to kill you and that you I mean yeah. I feel like I escaped serial killers because I did. And, and I, you know, I've been been speaking out ever since. And every single time I do an interview or, you know, an interview with with some place, with some whoever will tell the stories, whenever I do, there's always a lot of people who reach out and say, yeah. My that happened to my brother. That happened to my husband. That happened to my aunt. That happened to somebody that they know. And you have epic the Epic Times, for example, they they tell these stories. They've they've my store they've my story's been on Epic Times TV and on Frontline Health. And in the front and in Epic Times twice, they've done a lot of stories of victims on the COVID Humanity Material Memory Project, and, and they validate. They won't publish anything they can't prove. Trust me. Like, I've I've sent them every everything. And Children's Health Defense has been telling the stories and the the defender and and, you know, just different. There's there's a few places that are telling these stories, but shame on the mainstream media. Shame on we we really should be shaming the new the media, the the local media, the any media that won't touch this because this is such a huge story. These medical records that that the victims have, that the families have, they are they document crimes. They these these medical records have many things in them. I like, 1 widow I interviewed in in Dallas, she didn't even realize her husband had been killed by the hospital rather than COVID until she decided to get his medical records for some some other reason. She she she wasn't suspicious of anything. She thought he died of COVID because she never could see him. And she saw in the records that in the second day that he was at the hospital, he tried to get up and leave. And he he tried to get up and leave to get his phone and leave, and they they shot him full of Ativan, restrained him to the bed, and proceeded to kill him with protocol. And she had no idea that he wanted to leave until she read those medical records. We we see things like, you know, like Roland's brothers both died in hospitals here in Texas, and a nurse whistleblower nurse came to the funeral and said the doctor googled how to vent somebody before venting his brother. Or, there's all these things. You know? The the the the drug overdosing, you know, giving people that those lethal doses of drugs to to timely to end their to hasten their death. It's euthanine. Right? 4: Yeah. That's what they did to see. 1: Yeah. The abuses we've seen against, disabled disabled kids. Disabled kids are such a target, that it's I mean, to me, that's eugenics. Right? So, 2: Giving pediatric doses of medicine to adults? I mean, there's there there's so many 1: Yeah. There's there's fires. There's the the protocol is more than just remdesivir. It's a it's overall treatment. And and the media should be ashamed. Like, they they should be telling these stories. This is this is a huge story. 4: Well and it's going to continue because the media is supposed to be there to keep a check on our politicians. And until the politicians are shamed and the hospitals are shamed publicly and repeatedly, there's no reason to stop. 5: To add to what everyone is saying, if I may 1: Oh, okay. Yeah. 5: You know, just this is actually part of my story. I I guess I'll add I I I didn't mention earlier. I started putting out signs on the highway Yes. All over all over town, you know, what happened of the incident. And didn't know how the signs went down pretty quick. It wasn't surprising to me. I was like, whatever. But I did it on the inter 2 year anniversary of my dad's passing. So a couple weeks go by, and a plainclothes policeman, police detective, Grapevine Police Department, which, by the way, I went to go press manslaughter charges on Baylor, you know, a few months before that. Well, anyways, this guy shows up at my door, and he was telling me expressing concern about the website and putting signs on the road as, you know, your first amendment your first amendment rights are limited. And I'm like, whatever. Really? 4: Oh, okay. They're not. They're so 5: I I I mean, I got this guy on film. I have it on film at my front door where he's telling me, you know, I'm here to speak to you about Pablo Lina. So I got it on tape. But regardless, when he said that to me, I said, you know, I think it's interesting how when BLM and Antifa, when they were burning and looting the in The United States, I didn't see, really anyone in the military or someone like you show up at their doorstep saying, can you please stop what you're doing? I didn't really see you guys do that. So, you know, he, his tail went in between his legs. He got back in his car. He left. You know, you don't have to talk to us again if you don't want to. And so this was an intimidation tactic, and this hospital Sure. So I got really, really mad, and I wrote a really nasty letter to the CEO, the CEO of Olive Baylor. And they they we had a sit down after that. And I said, let's try to leave the police out of it from now on. How about we just talk? You know? Don't call the cops to me again. Please don't do that. You know? I was very mad. So, you know 1: As you should be. You know, that that's interesting when you said that, like, we've had we we have there's 1 1 widow who they held her, they held her husband's death certificate for a year and a half and implied to her consistently during that time that they could make it look like she killed him. 6: Woah. 1: Yeah. And so, she had to get an attorney because they well, first of all, they said that to the wrong woman because she she went she was like, well, I've got, you know, 35 recordings from everything that happened in that hospital, and I'm gonna get an attorney. And she went and got an attorney and browbeat them, and they, everything that came, they came everything that, came back on the on the official, death certificate was unknown cause of death, unknown place of death, unknown like, they wouldn't unknown everything. So it it's so crazy. You know, another thing I wanna kinda talk about is, you know, we were talking about the money trail and, and all of that. And so many victims, their hospital bills, of course, once the protocol was depending on how far they got down the protocol, they had bills in in excess of a million dollars, some a half a million dollars. And some of these, you know, we always we always tell people to go and get the itemized billing because sometimes you find things in the billing that you don't find in the medical records. They leave a lot of stuff out of the on the medical records these days. There's a there's a lot of discrepancies. And so there's there's a lot of victims we're finding who they go and they get the itemized they look for the itemized billing or they try to get the itemized billing, and the hospital either doesn't have a record of it or and it somehow got paid. They don't know how it got paid, or, they don't know who paid it, how how it was paid. The and chances are it was paid I mean, obviously, it was paid by the by the the government, but there's no no, like, trail. Yeah. And so, that is also we're kind of seeing as a as a commonality and where they'll tell people, like, ev like, they told Evelyn that it was the Curtis that the bill was paid courtesy of the hospital. Right? Right. I mean yeah. Like, so whatever VA didn't pay or what what have you. And so, yeah, and so that's a that's also an interesting thing that we're seeing a trend. We're definitely seeing more men in the the bulk of the bulk of yeah. It's it's that's that's a huge huge discrepant thrill. It's a huge demographic. It's it's way more men than women, and I don't know why that is. And so, yeah. So, basically, you know, all this money has become, you know, just a a just bags of of untraceable or, you know, smoke and mirror like, the the just these bags of it's bags of money for all the hospitals. They they've been you know, I don't know if you can if you can find a a hospital that's take that's taking this money that's not doing some kind of expansion. The hospital that tried to kill me and killed so many in our city just added 5 more floors and an and a second heliport. So it's like 2: yeah. And that's another thing you're talking about. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Terry. 4: No. I was just gonna say the 1 near me, they just built up all new cancer center. 1: Yeah. 2: And, to go with what you're talking about is the hospitals. Another telltale sign when I started to look at the website, the CHBMP website and look at the different cases, I would see HCA over and over. And so so to me, that's another indicator that there was some kind of protocol. There was some kind of directive across, you know. I mean, I I see HCA in Florida. I mean and they have different names. So I even went down that hole to figure out what the other names were for HCA and their corporate office is in Tennessee. So because I wanted to know, you know, was it because, again, when it first you know, being a widow, you're in shock for so long and you blame yourself, and then you kinda go through the process when you start hearing other things come out. And then you try to go to a disc I I went through a discovery phase of trying to figure out what else is behind this. And the more I discovered, the more I can see the criminal intent behind it. And so 1: Right. Exactly. Exactly. And and my hospital was an HCA hospital too. I mean, it'll be, you know, interesting when we when we have our our second national rally. The first 1, if people didn't know, if you if you look on if you go to Rumble, HALT Hospital homicide rum Rumble channel, you can see the the the, videos from the rally that we did in San Antonio, the next rally national rally is gonna be in Nashville, and that's where, I don't know when yet. We're still working on a on a venue. 3: But 1: but that will be, that's where HCA's headquarters is, and I think that will be interesting. 4: Yeah. If it's anywhere close by, we could do a little protest while 1: we're here. Yeah. We are. We are going to 2: And I I don't because and I plan on going by and getting my detailed statement that I've asked over 25 times to get, and they refused to give to me. So because they will not, so they have no excuse. The lady every time I go, it's a new store. I said, yeah. Pretty soon, you're gonna tell me it's been 2 years, which is coming up, but they're gonna tell me that he doesn't exist. But I'm seeing and through other records, my my father has to have a medical procedure, and it's saying that they have to keep their records for 10 years. So, So 1: they have to keep they have to keep the records of a decedent. They have to keep the records of a decedent for 50 years by law. 3: Well, there you go. They said that 2: I better get that detailed statement. I'm over it. 0: Right. I'm 6: Yeah. 2: So I don't know, Gabe, if you I I know we've kinda talked about the stories and stuff, but I don't know if you wanna maybe tell people about the, groups that we have too to 1: Yeah. Support. I do. Okay. Yeah. Let me, yeah, let's talk about that. So, so 1 thing I want people to do is please please check out these stories on chbmp.org and, and share them. We need to we need to kind of over we need to manipulate the algorithms and, you know, beat the algorithms, And you can do that by by sharing and sharing and sharing and just you know? So share the, share these stories. You know? Watch them. The the the to it will really not only will it wake you up, there's also some, you know, some some vaccine injured stories, and we do we do the vaccine injured stories and deaths. But the probably the the most most of them are gonna be protocol deaths or survivors. So please go out there, share the stories, watch the stories. You can you can either look at the whole list or there's a nice map where you can, you know, click by state. 3: Oops. I'm afraid we lost Gail there. Gail was just mentioning at, the home page of CHBMP.org, there's a place where you'll see a map of all 50 states. And if you hover over each state, you can see how many deaths we've recorded, how many stories we've published for victims in those states, and click on each 1 to see, to see all the cases we've documented in those states. Are you back, Gail? No? Okay. We also we're developing, states landing pages for, every state in the country. So, we have chairs and co chairs who are taking the home of their state, and, they are doing all kinds of things. The the New Jersey team just did an amazing, marketing campaign where they they they've got billboards up all over New Jersey. And, and I think today, they had a a plane actually fly over the beach with a big banner that that said, CHBMP.org. So they're doing amazing work, and we have other other state leaders all across the country taking on this charge. Would anyone like to speak to that? Is Charlene still here? No? Gail, are you able to to speak? No? Lacey, you wanna talk about what you're doing in your state? 2: Sure. So in Texas, what I'm doing on our TX.CHBNP, each there's a main website, and then we have a state website. So on ours, we are listing some of the events that, our teammates have went to. We attended a, pan pandemic 3 movie premiere in Austin, Texas. So there's an public speaking with Peter McCullough for, defend defend 0: America, I think, def defend freedom America, I believe is 2: what it was. I think it defend freedom America, I believe, is what it was. Additionally, I am creating a memorial. So, I a lot of the stories that are out on the website, you know, it shows it may show their loved 1 in the hospital and, you know, in that setting. So I wanted to memorialize the loved ones and so people can see them for who they were before they passed away. And so I'm I'm also doing that as well. We, post blog events as well too. Our our publications, we have some phenomenal publications, from Stella and some about some of our our Texan crew that have been interviewed or, their substacks or writings about them. So those, links to those are there as well. 3: Yeah. I think that is something that we focus too on the the lives that these people live and not just the horrific way that they were murdered. Yeah. And to that end, we do have a a place on CHBMP. If you go to the site, you'll see memories, and it's memories up at the top. And all of our victims are welcome to share any memories they have. They can share as many as they like there, and we have a really touching memorial to the victims up there now. So check that out. 1: Yeah. And you can people can see it. Can you hear me again now? Now that I'm back. Yes, ma'am. Yep. And people can can put as many pictures. They can create albums on the memory site, and, it's really great. And if they're if they have a case, it'll tie to their case, and the case will tie to the memories. It's it's a beautiful way to memorialize, your loved ones. And I'm not sure where where I got kicked out or lost, but, I was talking about the Monday night group, and, hopefully, I don't I 3: don't think we've heard any of that. So if you wanna go over that, our support group. 1: So on former Feds Group or CHBMP, you could sign up. There's a place to sign up for our support groups. We have the Monday night group is a very big group, and we we oftentimes have guest speakers on that group, but it's a great way to stay in touch. It's it's meant primarily for the for the victims, but it and for people who wanna get involved. And so it is a great way to find out what we're doing and learn more and get involved with former feds. There's support groups that are specifically for types of for groups of victims. We have a a parents group on Tuesday night that's led by Denise Fritter who, her daughter's her story is in, on the Texas, in in the Texas group of stories. Her daughter was murdered by the protocol, and she runs a group, support group for parents. Parents have a unique set of challenges in trying to cope with, you know, having taken their their child to a or their their sons or daughters to a, place for help and having them murdered. We have a women's group on Tuesday night, and we're go we're going to start an overall general support group on Tuesday mornings for people who work nights. We have a, we have, task force, members meetings on Wednesday, but we have oh, and I have a survivor. I every other Tuesday, I I facilitate a survivor of the protocols, support group. And then Thursday night, we have a, bible study and support group for women called Soul Care, and we have a men's group. And then Friday nights and Saturday nights, we have night owl meetings. Those night owl meetings are designed are designed to, you know, help people. People have hard time sleeping with you know, a lot of widows and people dealing with grief dealing with grief and trauma together. They ruminate and they have a hard time sleeping, so we've got those. And so so, you know, you can get involved that way, if you if you need support. And then we do have a citizen task force. It's got a 25 people on it right now. There's 40 additional people that I need to get through orientation, but, you can join our task force on former feds group. And, basically, that citizen we have lots of committees. We have lots of committees and projects that we do. We have legislative committee. We have a content and projects committee. We have a media committee. We have event planning, fundraising, medical records, input, medical records review, medical I mean, we, street teams. We have victim outreach, victim support. There's a there's a lot of commit. We do a lot of stuff. We do a lot of stuff, and it's it's all you know, volunteers, the the citizen task force is mostly made up of of of victims turned advocates who just aren't gonna sit around and accept that their loved 1 was murdered. They're They're not going to sit around and you know, we're we're changed forever, and, we're we're in this battle forever. So, so that's what, we're made up of. And, how did I I don't know if I'll if if I left anything out or if anybody has questions or comments or I'll even take snide remarks. 3: No. I think I think you did a a great job of of summarizing what we're doing here, and I'm glad the victims who came had a chance to speak. If any other victims would like to speak, just, raise your hand. If anyone has any questions, I think you can request to speak. Otherwise, 5: I 3: think we'll start wrapping it up here. 1: Yeah. So, yeah, thanks for that. So this like like our, posting on this said, this is the first Twitter spaces that we're that we've had on this on this topic, and we will be having regular, Twitter spaces in, and just, you know, trying to with a purpose of trying to raise awareness of this issue and offer, you know, what what we can in terms of what what we're helping with, but also to understand different things. And we're we're gonna work to get some, maybe some guest speakers on these Twitter, these Twitter spaces where, is it called x space x spaces Twitter spaces? I don't know. The x really throws me off. But, so the x spaces, we're we'll work to get some, people on that, you know, maybe some of the doctors we work with or attorneys we work with will will work on that and and, of course, more victims to tell their story. 2: Miss Gail, I didn't know if we want if you wanted to touch on the fundraising or any of that, or do you wanna say that for another time? 1: So there is a yeah, let me just touch on on 1 on on just 1 aspect of it. So, there we're rate there is a, on our chbmp.org, when you click on the donate button, there's 2 things that you will see in particular. There's 1, we we decided to try to stop the protocol ourselves and or in the meantime, at least protect people from it. And so 1 of the things we're we're raising money for helping a law firm raise money that's going to be filing a class action suit against, Gilead, who's the maker of remdesivir. And so, you know, they've done press releases and stuff like that, and they they can't file until they have, you know, a little bit of a, you know, of well, till they have enough money to actually file and get through the onslaught of papering. But, but we wanted to get these bracelets out to people. They are a, a medical alert bracelet, and it says on the medical alert it's a it's a it's got the all the things you need on a medical alert bracelet, and it says allergic to remdesivir slash veclary, baricitinib, and fentanyl, which are the 3 major drugs that they're using in the hospital to keep people to to kill people. And so, the, so the bracelets, can be found at, chbmp.org/bracelets. And, the stickers no. So okay. So the stickers or magnets, the they're it's actually a car magnet and 2 stickers. The we we also have a a awareness campaign that's helping us raise money to do what we do, and that is at chbmp.org/magnet. And, basically, the magnet, it just says, loved 1 died of COVID question mark. I think, are you sure? Go to CHBMP.org. Because many people do not know that their loved 1 was killed. They were not allowed in the hospital. And so when they see our stories, I can if I had a nickel for every time I've heard somebody reach out and say, I think my loved 1 was killed. I need to talk to somebody. Or they see the commonalities. Share the commonalities. So people will see that, and they they start to think, oh, I yeah. Maybe my loved 1 didn't die of COVID. 99 percent chance they didn't. If they died in a hospital, they probably died from the call. And so, yeah, so just, you know, spread, you know, just spread the, you know, spread the, the stories and the mission and the information. And I hope everybody who attended, this Twitter spaces, learned a lot and will join again. 3: And and this is being recorded. So if you know someone who died of COVID or whose family thinks they died of COVID, send them the link to this recording and and let them listen to some of the victims. And they might they might discover that it wasn't just COVID that killed their loved ones. So share it as much as possible with people who who might have been through this and don't even know it. 1: Yeah. So it's recorded, and please please please, share that. Thank thanks for that. Yep. And with that, I think I think we'll we'll close it out for tonight. And, you can also reach out to any you can reach out to us on Twitter. You can you can private message us on Twitter. You know, I welcome anything that's not, not trying to, you know, get me to buy crypto or, other things that I'm not into. Like, I I welcome any type of legitimate communication with people that's that's not crypto or porno. So I, you know, keep it clean. Alright. Andy, Lisa, you guys wanna add in? 5: Absolutely. Thank you everyone who's listening, who who decided to, tune in tonight. I hope, you can come again, and, my story is not over. I don't think any of our stories are over. It's kind of the story so far. So please stay tuned with us. Please join our group. Share our stories. Thank you for coming. 2: I second that. Thank you everyone for coming and listening and being a part. And, you know, if any if you know of anybody that's even thinking about it, you know, encourage them to look at the story or come to a meeting and and just maybe listen. You know, I know it takes bravery to share your story, and sometimes it just takes hearing something from somebody else. Like, for me, when they said about putting on the vent and just give his lungs a rest, I went, wow. They told me the exact same thing. So, you know, we we are all human and, you know, I think this is making us a big 1 united family. So, you know, know, share away. We appreciate you. 1: Yep. Thank you. Thanks for that. Alright. Thank you, everyone. And, hopefully, we'll see you again next next week. 5: Good night, everyone.