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0: Hello, and welcome to another CHBMP space. Please give us a few minutes to get situated, and we will get started. I am sending out cohosts. Hopefully, you guys would be able to accept tonight. I didn't expect to see you quite so soon, Miriam. Thanks for joining us, and, welcome protocol widow. How are you doing tonight? 1: I am okay. I have to go get my dogs in because I am still running around not quite prepared, and I hope I didn't scare Miriam when I threatened to dock her pay. 2: No. You didn't. But I I managed to, be like my dog and inhale my food, so I got here. I didn't think I was gonna make it, but he set a great example for me, and he taught normal how to eat fast. So 1: I'm very impressed. Thank you. 2: Hey. Goes to show you, you can always learn something, and sometimes you can teach an a human old dog new tricks. 0: Well said. Let that be an inspiration to us all. 2: Hey. You gotta take your wins where you can. Right? 0: Every single 1 of them. Protocol widow, go ahead and, you know, get your dog sorted. It's gonna take take a while for everybody to filter in, and we can just banter about how crazy this weather has been or, the latest in Twitter drama or something that we don't know. 1: Twitter drama. Some of this stuff, I swear, we could look at and you could just say, okay. We need to talk about who killed JR because it all makes just about as much sense. 0: I'm old enough to remember that. 1: Most of us are. Yeah. And, I'm still trying to sort out a few technological problems here. I got 2 of them out of 4 settled down. Oh, boy. I feel so good. Yeah. Because we've got a lot to talk about tonight, don't we? 2: We sure do. It's been a wild ride this week, and we've already been on plenty of wild rides. So when we say it's been a wild ride, it really has been 1. 0: Yes. 20 25 has no chill. 2: I I I second that. 0: Yeah. I I started out this year, going along with the, you know, hailing the new golden era that I I really I really hoped, and and I still hope it will be. It's just, maybe that was a little optimistic to think that things would start falling into place so quickly after things had gone so far off the rails. It's just it's gonna take some time. 2: That's for sure. There's no doubt about it as far as that goes. It's it's I'll just say it's interesting already, and I think it's gonna get even more interesting before it's done. 1: Yeah. Yeah. I'm I have to agree with you, Miriam. I I'm really looking forward to the rest of the trial that we've all been watching. That's been very enlightening. 2: Sure has. 1: Yeah. I think we've all learned quite a bit this week. 0: For those I think everyone in this room is aware, but for those listening on the recording who don't know what trial, protocol widow is referencing, that would be the the Sharra trial where finally, 1 of the victims of the protocol harms is is suing the hospital and actually made it into a court of law. So we are all watching that with bated breath right now, aren't we? 2: Very much so. And I am so impressed with what the plaintiff's attorneys and their witnesses have done so far. They've really, shown a very bright light on what happened in this nation all across the country. This is not an isolated case for anyone who may also be listening on the recording. This is, if you if you can go listening to this recording and go listen to, the recordings on c on CHD, children's health defense, you will see, an example of the horror that all of the victims went through in this country, with the COVID hospital protocols. And, I encourage you to go and look at any and all of the stories on CHBMP because it is not a 1 off. This is what happened all across the country. 0: And that is why so many of us are watching this trial, because what happens to to date, we've seen a lot of injustice where it's impossible for victims to even find lawyers who will consider taking their cases, still yet actually make it past all of the hurdles that you have to overcome to get into a courtroom. So and and and the Sharra case is incredibly compelling. And, there's no doubt about it when you when you hear the details of the case that Grace did not need to die when she went into that hospital. And, and what happened to her is really a travesty. So depending on, the outcome of this case, which it's actually a jury trial, it's a you know, we have actual people listening to the details of these things, And some of this is coming to light for the first time for many people who haven't been aware that this is this kind of thing has been going on in hospitals for the last several years. 2: Yes. And I know it has to be absolutely horrific for Scott and his wife and and Grace's sister to relive this, but, I am so very thankful that they are willing to do this because this light does need to be shown on the evil that we have all endured and what was done. 2 people who went into the hospital with a diagnosis of COVID. And, just go listen to the stories. Go listen to the recordings because, again, this is not a 1 off. This is a pattern. 0: Yeah. At CHBMP, we have documented hundreds and hundreds of stories that are eerily eerily similar with with, so many details in common that we've put a list together of of some of the most prevalent commonalities we've found throughout these cases. And although Grace, as I understand it, was not subjected to remdesivir, what the shenanigans they went through with her DNR and, putting her on precedex, like, as as soon as she went into the hospital and so many other things, just raised lots of questions, and and we really hope we'll get some answers out of his truck. 2: I Absolutely. And protocol widow has something to say. Go for it. 1: Well, I was just listening to Chelsea talking about the shenanigans with the DNR, and I think that it it became painfully obvious that the minute that the Sherrass said do not intubate, that translated into don't do anything to save our child. Immediately, it was determined that if we cannot intubate, then we do nothing. Yeah. And the fact that that child was overdosed twice while Scott was in the room, and he was never told. Unbelievable. That was information I never remembered hearing him talk about. 2: So Yeah. It's pretty brazen on their part, isn't it? 1: Yep. They knew how to save her. And then as doctor, I, you know, we kind of in in 1 of our meetings, we kind of harassed doctor Berndine because he really didn't understand who we were, and he was very nice to us. There were a few people that that took 1 of his comments, maybe wrong. Maybe he was a little bit, cavalier and didn't realize how many people in the audience were like, no. They killed my husband or mom or sister or child or whoever it was. And, they attacked him. But if you watch the there's a portion of the trial where somebody asked him. I think it was the I think it was the plaintiff. I think it was his attorney. I think it was Sherra's attorney who said, how much are you getting paid for this to to be at this trial? And he named off the dollar amounts for, reviewing the files, which took multiple attempts to get full sets, and he kind of hinted that he never thinks he doesn't think they got full sets yet, for writing reports, for being at deposition, which it seems like he was at deposition at least 3 times, and then 2 days in court. And all that money is going to the health sciences department at a I don't remember exactly which, university he's at in Texas, but it's going to the it's going to the department. And this is the first time he's so he's donating all of his time, and this is the first time in 40 years of doing expert testimony that he is actually representing a an injured party as opposed to representing or supporting a a position that has been challenged. And he he broke down. And, I mean, and Scott did too when he was saying how egregious this was that the way that that Grace and her dad were treated Yeah. Yep. This is, the the 1 thing that I do that does concern me is that there is going to be a, a certain segment of the population who's gonna look at this trial and say, that was horrible without knowing how prevalent it was in every hospital. That's you know, until someone tells you, no. That happened to everybody. Still happening to people. Mhmm. Yep. They're still doing it. And there's a couple things that have yet to be be addressed. 1 of the jurors 1 of the things that I like about this this judge, and I'm sorry if I'm rattling on, but I got so excited by this judge. I've never seen a trial where the judge says, does anybody in the jury have a question? And I thought that was the coolest thing to let the jury say, wait a minute. I I'm looking for some other kind of information here. 1 of the jurors asked, did Precedex or Lorazepam, does either 1 of them treat COVID? Obviously, we know the answer is no. And I'm hoping that somewhere along the line, somebody's going to ask or point out what kind of treatment Grace was receiving to treat her COVID. Because we know by re refusing remdesivir, there was very little that they were going to do for Grace. Now they have mentioned that there was respiratory therapy coming in the room. How often and what they were doing, that has not been addressed. So that's the only thing that has been mentioned as far as something to deal with her breathing was that respiratory therapy was in the room. So what were they doing? What else besides lorazepam and Presodex were given to that child to help her breathe? 2: Interesting question. I would be very interested to see if they did the same thing they did with everyone, and that was that was not give budesonide Mhmm. And only give a very, very, very infinite infinitesimally small amount of steroids Mhmm. Like a pediatric dose, which is ridiculous. 3: Mhmm. 2: So I'll bet you money it was exactly the same. 1: Mhmm. Oh, sure. Well, it was on the protocol. And they were they've been banking on we followed the protocol. We we're covered by prep. And it's only because they were so brazen that 3: they've been able 1: to get this far. And maybe because the judge, for whatever reason, is not not letting prep get in the way. I'll give him I'll give him props for lots of stuff right now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 2: I am very, very happy that he is doing, is actually asking the jurors if they have questions because I haven't seen that either. That is, in my mind, unusual because I've never seen it. Now it may just be that I've not seen very many cases. 1: Let's We should be glad, Miriam. You and I haven't spent a lot of time at trial. 2: Exactly. Yeah. So I I think I may need to pin my son down and ask him if that's unusual since he went to law school. Mhmm. Maybe he'll know. So 1: And the other the other thing that that nobody's asked of I mean, not a they did kind of brush past it. Exactly how much nutrition did Grace get. We know that while Scott was there, he was able to help feed her. But after Scott was forced out, as doctor Burdine is absolutely adamant, forced out, which he was. There is no discussion of how much nutrition she was getting. And then his pointing out that the day they put her on a do not resuscitate, they put her through that painful, what, procedure to get the NG tube down her nose. And, you know, with her tiny nostrils, there's blood on her face. The fact that her mother, this is something that that made me crazy when when I because I didn't watch Scott's, cross exam. I didn't watch any of his his testimony, but I did watch most of Cindy's. And to have Cindy, so sick, wheeled into the hospital in absolute destroy emotional destruction to see the body of her daughter and find that child with IVs still in her arms and the BiPAP still on her face with blood on her face from when they put that NG tube in, you know that missus Sharra had to wait for or probably had to wait for their pastor to arrive at the house to take her over to the hospital. That hospital had a minimum of a half hour and maybe more to clean the child up and have her presentable for her mother to see. They did nothing. That was pure hate to leave that that child with all those things sticking in her and on her face and not clean her up before her mom saw her, that's hateful. 2: I agree. You know, I would be if I were in Cindy's place, I would be inclined to believe that they did that just for just to be mean, just to go, we're in control. 1: That was to teach them a lesson. 2: Yep. That's what would be my take would be on it because that you don't ever see that in a hospital. The family before the family sees the person, they're always cleaned up. 1: Yeah. Generally speaking, it used to be that way, but we have I have heard many widows talk about very Deb, our friend Deb, said the exact same thing. They had drawn blood from her husband's neck days before she saw him, and the blood was still caked on him. 2: It is horrific. I mean, because but then again, you know, they neglected patients right and left, and that was the that was the least horrific thing they did was neglect. I mean, it's crazy. 1: Yeah. There there comes a point where you're like, I can't even I can't even go there. You know? I don't even know where to go with this. 2: Exactly. I mean, because it it it has to be purposeful because it just otherwise, it makes the only thing you can come to a conclusion is they were determined to make sure that people died because it it it otherwise, it doesn't make sense. But it does make sense when you when you look at all the different ways they were breaking down people's bodies. Everything they were doing to them, no water, no food, isolation, over medication, you know, to the point of of literally sedating people to death, remdesivir. It you could just look at all the different ways that and it's amazing that people made it as long as they did in so many cases. Because I think I remember it was Chelsea saying that it on average, it was, like, day 20 to 20 2 3: Mhmm. 2: When when most people 1: Finally died. Yeah. Finally, you know, they and it was almost exactly timed out, oddly enough, to where insurance would usually, depending on your insurance, would usually run out. They would cut it off. The the this person would pass just in time to keep the insurance from back charging the hospital. 2: Yep. 1: How convenient. 2: Yeah. Yeah. If you think that's a coincidence, well, there's no hope for you Right. Because it's it's not. 1: Now and maybe you can answer some questions for me, Miriam, because you know I think you know a little bit more about this. At 1 point, the defense was questioning doctor Burdine, and they were making it an issue where they asked multiple questions about how many Down syndrome children or people had been through his particular hospital with COVID and how they had survived, had he treated them, etcetera. And the first thing that that comes to my mind is in in my opinion, a Down syndrome person doesn't have a whole lot of physiological differences. The lungs, the heart, the liver, the kidneys, they're all pretty much in the same place. And unless they have some other serious medical conditions, those organs all usually work in pretty much the same ways yours and mine does. And in my estimation, I have not let's put it this way. I have not heard Scott or Cindy ever say that Grace was on any kind of maintenance meds for any physical ailment. 2: No. She wouldn't have been because, for Down syndrome, the most common problem is is connective tissue hypermobility. And what that means is all the literally, the connective tissue, the ligaments that hold the bones together, all the connective tissues in the body are very, very lax, very, very loose. And so, you know, the biggest thing with that is, you know, they can they can have problems with joints slipping out of place. Particularly, the most dangerous thing for them is the very top vertebra in the neck can slip out of place, and they can become paralyzed if if if they don't have enough muscular tone just to hold that in place. And I've had a couple of downpatients that that has happened to. But other than that, no. There is no there's no physiological, may major deviation from a from a organ function standpoint, cardiac, liver, etcetera, etcetera. There is no, difference. 1: So why the questions? 2: I think he was just trying to discredit doctor Berdeen by saying, well, you don't really know what you're talking about about how this affected a Down's patient because you haven't seen any Down's patients. And they're they're banking on the jury going, oh, yeah. That makes sense. He's never seen a Down's patient, so he wouldn't know how these medications are gonna affect their lungs. Well, I got news for you. It affects everybody's lungs the same. It affects everybody's breathing the same because it's a central nerve the all those are central so nerve nerve nervous system depressants, And that's why you don't you're not conscious whenever you get too many of those and too much of those. So if if you suppress the central nervous system, then it it lowers your breathing, and it puts you at risk for for dying. And when you're already in respiratory distress, that's a stupid thing to do or a, evil thing to do when you want to hurt and hasten people's deaths. And that's what Right. So, you know, I think he would just create they were just trying to create doubt in the jury's mind because the jury's jury doesn't have any idea that that doesn't have anything to do with anything. 1: I would yeah. I would have liked to seen doctor Burdine say, well, no. But physiologically, there was no difference between Grace and you other than muscle tone. 2: Correct. And and if if, he could have easily pointed that out with Grace driving, she, actually did she was did dance. She did Mhmm. All the motor skills that a person would do. Her dad taught her how to drive. Mhmm. So, you know, while she had lower tone, her diaphragm and all her you know, which is your breathing muscle, functioned normally because she walked around and did everything. She, so it's obvious that she was functionally the same, because she didn't need oxygen. She didn't need any kind of supportive care. She lived her life until they got ahold of her. 1: Yes. Until they got ahold of her. Exactly. That was perfect until they got ahold of her. 2: Yeah. I mean, she lived an amazingly high functional life if you look at the store. Mhmm. Because and that's what happens when you have a a family and parents that are dedicated to raising a down child because they can function extremely high. I had a family that I went to church with, and their son, extremely high functioning, has a job, drives, you know, goes to school, goes to community college. I mean, they can be extremely high functioning, and they are not disposable. 1: No. They aren't. And but we know from just talking to parents that there are people in the medical field who must be considering them disposable. 2: Well, yeah, I mean, that's a that's been a long standing thing because, you know, they do test for that prenatally. I mean, not, intranatally during during gestation, and they will often recommend that you abort Down's children. And it is absolutely disgusting. And so they already don't think that their lives are worth anything. So it wasn't a big big jump for them to go, oh, well, we're gonna do DNR because they don't think their lives are worth anything before they're born. 1: And Well yeah. And okay. Go ahead, Chelsea. 0: I was just gonna say they everyone all of the western nations pretty much moved in lockstep. And although we didn't make it explicit in The United States, we can just look to The UK where they did make it explicit to basically euthanize anyone that was, considered you know, had these preexisting conditions or, conditions like this. So even if you just because it wasn't made explicit here doesn't mean they weren't following the same protocol. 2: 100%. And I take great personal offense at that because I have cerebral palsy. And I was told by or my parents were told, oh, she won't live because I was born at 26. So can you imagine can you imagine how gleeful they would have been to get a hold of me? And never mind the fact that I've practiced physical therapy since I was 9 since 1985. But, you know, if they got me in the hospital, they'd be like, oh, you know, yeah, this is a disabled person. We can definitely use the protocol on her, you know, because that's how they look at you. They don't look at you as a human being that has worth and family and a life. They look at you as a dollar sign and somebody to be moved through the protocol to make sure you're out of that bed by the time the insurance bed days are up, and that's the truth of it. And they've always been that way relative to getting people out of the bed days because I I worked in a hospital, and I had to sick I had a patient who was a lawyer, and they wanted him out of that bed at the end of his bed days, and the man was functionally paralyzed from polymyositis. So I had to get on the phone with the insurance company with him beside me, and I said, look. I'm documenting he's not safe to go home. He needs to be here. And if he leaves this place and he falls and he gets hurt, he's a lawyer, and I'm the therapist, and we're in agreement that he doesn't need to I mean, I had to fight because they simply won't come out because they didn't wanna pay for any more bed days. I mean, so and this was gosh. This was year 02/2019 between 1998 and February. So they've always been that way. But, you know, they got the joy in their way of not having having patient rights abolished, Basically, you know, having an isolated patient where they could do whatever they wanted to. At least it used to be people were in there and people could advocate for them. But with COVID, nope. All the patient rights were suspended, and then they were able to just do whatever they wanted. 1: I'm in the process of getting her I'm gonna put all of the days that are current in the, in the chat, and I'm gonna make it all 1 string you know, string so that they're all in 1, post so you don't have to search for them. Day 1 is Cindy Sherra, so you're your mom. Day 2, I believe, is when Scott was actually questioned. In between, there was a male RN. There is a woman RN. And then after those 4 is when doctor Berdeen is on the stand. And that's day 3 in the afternoon, I believe, and all of day 4. So, and he I'll give him credit. He didn't let them rattle him. They tried, but he he held firm. But I'm gonna go ahead and put links to all of that in the in the chat, and then I will post the main 1 in the purple pill in the, nest so that everybody can find them if you're interested. 2: That's great. Thank you, protocol. Having them all in 1 place is gonna be really helpful because I know I know I missed large sections during the week because I had so much going on. So I think I will probably myself go back and listen to different parts that I missed. I, it's it's horrific to listen to because it brings back memories for me, because, again, you know, they this is not a 1 off. This you know, the the difference is that Grace's time from admission to death was very short, compared to others, but their strategy to achieve that was essentially the same. The medications that suppress, you know, that suppress breathing and it in her case, though, it was so much more blatant because they didn't have the benefit, and I say benefit very loosely. The hospital didn't have the benefit of, oh, yeah. Well, you know, it it she's a very sick little girl, and, you know, they didn't have all those days to do the remdesivir because her parents didn't allow it. So, you know, they couldn't really stretch it out as long as they would and couldn't make quite as much money because they didn't get to do the remdesivir. But, again, beginning point and ending point, very much the same with what they did with gay with, Grace. 5: With my husband, it was a very short time, and they they did their evil deed within a very short time. 1: I'm so sorry, Catherine. 5: Well, thanks. But I'm just, you know, trying to add to the conversation. 1: No. And it needs to be added because most of our audience I as I look down, most of our audience knows these stories, or at least they know about us, and or they are part of us because we are a new subsection of society. The people who watched our loved ones die by hired killers that the government paid to make sure it happened. 5: Well and and I have a very heartbreaking part of my soul because I went to school for nursing, had a bachelor's degree, and, yeah, had a bachelor of nursing, bachelor of science in nursing. So every every step my husband took made absolutely no sense. And, so, 3: yeah, 5: they killed them. 1: Yes. They did. And to hear doctor Burdine discussing this and pointing out it wasn't that it was a metabolic acidosis issue that they kept exacerbating because she was breathing fast. Her body was attempting to counteract that acidosis with oxygen. And in every time they sedated her, they combat compounded the acidosis because her body couldn't expel it because it was being suppressed. 5: They they sedated my husband to death? 1: Yes. They they the ones they didn't sedate to death, like your husband and Grace, they sedated them long enough to get either them or their family to allow intubation. 5: They tried that with us. We kept denying that because I just couldn't I couldn't do that. And, but they achieved their goal. 1: Yeah. And they did. They did that, didn't they? I'm so sorry. 5: And they made money. But I'm not go looking for sympathy. I'm just joining you now in the conversation. 1: And that's and that's why we need you here. 5: Thanks. I'm glad to be a part. I mean, you know what I mean. 1: Yeah. No. I know. It's like, I'm glad I can be helpful in at least putting out some information for everybody. I'm not glad I it's you know, when you I'm 5: glad we found each other. 1: Yeah. It that's what I'm trying to get at. On the c 19, widows and widowers Facebook page, Katrin will will you know, like, every week or 2, she's got a handful of new members, which is so disheartening. 0: And, 1: she'll say, you know, everybody, please welcome this person, this person, and this person. And, yeah, I wanna welcome them, but I'm sorry that they have to meet me. 5: Well, it's a blessing that we found each other. 2: Yeah. It is. We look forward to the day that that that blessing isn't needed anymore, that there's no more coming. That's what we look forward to because that's our whole goal is to stop this thing. Of course. It's gotta stop. And, they are not stopping. That's the thing that the general population doesn't understand. Is Well, I just kind of 5: you know, from a personal spot, I I told you I was an RN, had a bachelor's degree. When I sat after my husband's death, it was really hard to sit there knowing, you know, every step of the way, they're not doing what they should be doing. And then just sit there after his death. It was very alone. 0: Yep. So many persons who have been through this feel utterly betrayed by their profession. 5: Well, we were. We don't feel it if we were. We were betrayed. 0: Yeah. 5: I mean, it's a fact. Yeah. 1: Well, I think that's you and the other nurses, and I know this is painful, are so valuable 6: because 1: you are the kind of the control group. When you think about how all of the patients were treated, the the family members of nurses or doctors 5: It def it all defied medical common sense. 1: Yeah. You guys you guys are the ones that are able to to to stand in front of a group of people and say, that's not how we nurse. 5: Well, all of it. I mean, it defied medical common sense. This is, like, basic stuff. It's basic. They were denied basic medical common sense. 0: And we had to cram down our throats for the entire duration. Listen to the experts. Listen to the experts. Don't do your own research. Listen to the experts. And are not nurses experts in their field? Why why wouldn't they take them seriously? 5: Well and and we all also kind of all just kinda knew. Right? You just knew in your heart something's done right here. 2: Well and see, and that's the thing. You know, people who don't know that morphine lowers your respirations, slows your breathing. 5: Yes. 1: Yes. And when you've 2: got when you've got a nurse saying, oh, we're we're we've got we're giving a morphine. And I'm like, really? That makes no sense. But you've got family members who do not know this. 5: Yes. 1: Well, that's you know, in my case, they told me the night he went in, they were gonna give him Ativan. And they said for anxiety. And so okay. Automatically, I'm thinking, alright. There's something there to relax him. 5: That's what they did with me too. 1: But I don't know enough. I didn't know in the chaos in my mind and the panic because they've already just you know, when I said, when I said, no remdesivir, they it was like, well, that's the that's the protocol. Like, I don't care. I don't want remdesivir. So they told me they gave him Ativan, and I didn't panic about it because it was said, like, we're going to give him a little Ativan. Oh, a little. Okay. Because he's a big man, so a little won't hurt him. Right? What they didn't tell me was not only did they give him a little Ativan that night, they kept giving it to him regularly, continually. 5: I totally get that. 2: Yep. 5: Yeah. Yeah. With my with my husband, I remember thinking, you know, they told me I can't remember what they said they were giving him, but, you know, my first thought was, okay. He'll be able to relax. Yeah. They relaxed him to death. 1: Mhmm. Yeah. Because they followed with my husband, they followed up with Presadex, and that was onboard with with the Ativan for 2 days, 2 and a 5: half days. You know, it's like basic medical common sense. 1: Yeah. And but that 5: He snowed them. We we call it nursing. You snowed them. 1: That's and that's what Miriam 2: overwhelmed. Yep. 1: Yep. That's what Miriam said when she saw her husband. She knew he had been snowed. 5: She knew Mine too. 1: So, hang on. I am lost in space as usual. Okay. 5: Well, I'm glad we all found each other. 1: Yeah. I'm glad we did too. 5: Yeah. Yeah. It's a lonely place to find yourself, knowing things and, you know, being alone. 1: Yes. Yeah. I see T Bird has joined us, and it's good to see you, T Bird. 6: Hi. I haven't seen you guys' spaces. I have a hard time finding spaces. Go figure. But tonight's the first time I've seen you guys in ages, so I know you probably do it. I just can't find you. But, yeah, I just wanted to share. You guys just hit me like a ton of bricks. Catherine's the first time I've heard you speak protocol. I'm, like, I'm so sorry for your guys' losses. Like, it's unfathomable that this happened under the watch of nurses. I I am an RN as well as you guys know. I didn't know, and I didn't put anyone on ventilator, and I never gave everyone a vaccine. I I I'm very happy that I didn't happy. And I say happy because thank god I didn't. I almost like I could live with myself knowing what it's done. But the fact that nurses are still giving it because they're afraid to lose their license, that's a problem. Huge. But you guys just hit me really hard for the first time in well, it's 2025. Sorry. Ativan. Even I I ran retirement homes. Right? Luxury retirement homes. And we were very cautious. Even doctors wouldn't even order Ativan for our geriatric population because it it's it's not safe. When I had my first heart attack and I went to the hospital, and they didn't tell me my was 4,000, which is, like, I was literally having a stroke, and they sent me home without telling me the results. My CRP was 28.5. It should be less than 0.8. Like, all these things that I never even thought to look at because as I was always indoctrinated, if the doctor doesn't call you, your results are fine. They discharged me from the hospital after being rushed there in an ambulance. But that first night, you guys just totally ticked me off here. Not ticked me off, but, like, ticked the box. They gave me 30 pills of Ativan, 1 milligrams each, and they said, you are having panic attacks. Go home and take 1 of these a day. Now I realize I shit shit you not. I'm not lying. I didn't even put 2 and 2 together. My son commit tried to commit suicide with the Ativan that he found in my drawer. I never took it because I knew I wasn't having a panic attack. I took it home, but I never took it. And he through COVID, through the lockdowns, he ended up almost killing himself. Well, he did. He actually has a clinical death certificate, and the ambulance revived him. But that's very interesting that you guys are saying that they used Ativan because we didn't in in Canada here, we didn't use the ventilators like you guys did. We didn't use remdesivir. We didn't like, so I didn't see that happening. Although, I got so sick so fast from the vaccinations that I didn't know what was happening, and, of course, we're censored. But you guys just triggered me. They probably sent me home with bottles of Ativan to kill myself. And and now I'm starting just tonight, listen to you, Catherine, in protocol, both of you saying that is like, oh my god. They didn't use ventilators here. They just gave everyone Ativan and sent them home. And, I can't even imagine what's happened where there's no record of it now. So that's very interesting. Thank you for speaking out, both of you. 0: Wow. I can't Yeah. That's that's 2: not great. I can confirm that T Bird that they also gave Ativan to my husband. Ativan, morphine, fentanyl, propofol. What were the others? That that's just, a few. 6: I'm so sorry. I I can't remember. 5: Was in the hospital. Right? 2: Yes. It was it was while he was, there in the hospital, and it continued during his entire ventilation course, which was from the September 19 all the way up to the October 6. 5: I'm sorry. Yeah. They drugged my husband so so early on quickly. He they killed him early. He didn't even need a ventilator. They just drugged him, and good night. 2: It's awful. It is. 6: I'm my birthday is September 19. A lot of things happen on September 19 for some reason. Now I'm never gonna forget that for sure. Like, it's just it it makes me sick to my stomach what they did to your loved ones. I I'm so angry. I'm so angry with the nurses that are still doing this. It's not fair. And it you know, just because your license is on the line is no excuse. At this day, it's murder. It's and I shouldn't say that out loud. I'm sorry. But I just these girls know. And I'm just gonna say girls because the majority of us work with women, not men. Let's be honest. There's the odd nurse, male nurse that I ever worked with in my life. But if you're a mother and you're a wife and you know what's happening, how can you continue to do this? I don't it's bothering me a lot, to be honest. I just needed to say that. Thank you for letting me speak. 1: Thank you, t bird, and I appreciate your disgust and frustration. It it does help to know that you're pissed. It really does. 1 of the things that we are sisters in arms because your injury and your illness is because our husbands or our family members died. That is our connection. They were able to just basically gaslight the majority of the public because everybody's dying in the hospital, and if you just get this vaccine, And that's how they did it. It was it's been planned for decades. And we all just fell into the trap because and and then, you know, I can kind of give some medical establishments and professionals about 2 months. 2 months, and they knew. They knew. And if they didn't figure it out, they never should have been in that profession. 2: That's right. Because they are literally, at best, incompetent if they can't figure that out. Because, honestly, I'm a physical therapist. And in 1985, we were still doing respiratory therapy because that was part of our original profession pro post World War 2. So we were basically being respiratory therapists in the 19 eighties. And so I know how you treat a person with respiratory distress. I know what you do, and I know that 5: we're facing common sense. 2: Yes. And 5: Basic common medical sense. 2: Right. And and so when when I saw what they were doing in 2020, I was like, wait a minute. This is totally incorrect because respiratory distress is respiratory distress. It doesn't matter what the pathogen is, what the sickness is, what you treat them the same. And they totally, totally flipped everything. No water, no food, no budesonide, no respiratory therapy, no, I mean, isolation respiratory suppression drugs, which you don't give to people who are having trouble breathing. I mean, none of it was medically appropriate, and anybody if fresh out of school, you know, you don't give respiratory depressants, things that slow people's breathing for people who are already having trouble breathing. You don't do that. So you don't have to be in, the medical profession anytime at all to know that. 0: And that disconnect was part of it, wasn't it? So many of the the mandates and policies and protocols that were, really rigidly enforced over the course of the last several years did not make any good sense at all. And and that seems to be part of the point. There's a old quote, never a tribute to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. But we have to be really generous to attribute, you know, this much incompetence to people. Could people possibly could so many people possibly be so incompetent? 2: I don't think so. I think, you know, I think the vast majority absolutely knew, and they knew early on because it just it again, you don't give at bare minimum, if you drop everything else, you don't give respiratory suppressants to people who are already in respiratory distress. You don't do it. And, you know, a a brand new grad knows this. You don't do it. So, yeah, I can't really extend them much, leeway there because that alone was a major contributor to this. 0: T Bird, is your hand still up? Go ahead. If you wanna speak, 6: go ahead. No. I did actually put it back up respectively. I agree. Respiratory strider, we have to look at, you know, your breathing through your stomach. If you're actually in respiratory distress, these are, like, just things you should know as a nurse. And I will tell you 1 story. When I graduated, again, it's over, like, 30 years ago. I remember looking around because I I went to school in Toronto, Canada, and I was a minority as a white Caucasian English speaking nurse. And I'm saying that quite quite honestly. Out of a 50 students, only 6 of us were white, Caucasian, English speaking. And I remember doing the exam, and this is this is a fact. And they if they couldn't I remember, do you remember Scantron, everyone? Are you guys all as old as me where you you put the pencil, you had to use a HP pencil, and you're like, yeah. Right? We had to, like, do the exams, and there was these, like, green and white pages, and he was like, you had to, like, scratch out whichever answer it was, a, b, c, v, whatever. I know. I'm aging everyone, I think, but it really happened. It really happened. And, I remember them putting on the chalkboard, use a pencil, not a pen because you can't put a pen on the Scantron. It had to be pencil. And I remember looking around at me in this huge gymnasium when I wrote my nursing exam and going, holy fuck. They're all using pens. If you don't know the difference between a pen and a pencil, how are you gonna determine between dimenhydrinate and diphenhydramine? Right? Those are 2 it's just gravel and Benadryl, but they're very different. And that was the first thing that went through my head that that is many, many years ago. And I remember thinking, oh my god. Patients are going to die. And I remember working as a trauma nurse and not wanting to go on break even though I was working, like, 17, 18 hour shifts, you know, there's there's always a nursing shortage. It doesn't matter what anyone says. There's never enough nurses, and you work long hours and then you stay late, whatnot. And I remember going on break going, oh my god. I better hang extra dextrose next to this IV. I don't think this person I I was afraid to leave my patients. That was 30 years ago. I was afraid because I'm like, I don't know who's covering my break. I mean, I know them, but it doesn't mean I speak English or even understand what they're doing because I watched what happened when we wrote our exams. That is scary because now it's even worse. And that that's the truth. Right? I just I had to share that story. I know it has nothing to do with this, but it kinda does because it's worse now, and it's not funny. It's sickening. What what who is taking care of us? No 1. No 1. We can't let them do this to us again. It's gonna happen again. We all know that. And I think what you guys are bringing up tonight is very valuable. We need to think about the future. We need to think about the past. But based on the past, we need to recognize that we can't leave our loved ones in a hospital. We need to teach other nurses. We need to do what we're doing. We're all doing it. And, also, think about learn about these, respiratory medications that suppress that we've look listen. I worked in geriatrics. They would order morphine, whatnot. Morphine will suppress your breathing as well as everyone knows, well, the nurses anyway. You know, that's how we kill people. We have made in Canada medical assistance in dying. It it was legalized in 02/2013, and I was I I literally lived through it, obviously. But what I wanna say is, you know, we were already doing it. When doctors just kept increasing morphine for a palliative patient, it's the same thing. So we need to understand I think just the general public needs to understand what you guys are talking about tonight. And it's really important. And the more that you share, the more it reminds me of how important it is that people need to understand, you know, be there for your loved 1 and, or anyone that you know, and and understand how these suppressants work. And I totally agree with you guys. So I just rambled again. I always do that. That's why I don't like talking. 5: You know 0: I'm gonna chastise you for apologizing for rambling. 6: Both 4. Chastise. I need a chastity belt, actually. 0: I am very naughty, and it will not be tolerated. Kyle, go ahead. How you doing? Kyle, welcome. Hey. 7: How you girls doing? 0: Good. Good to see you. 7: Yeah. It's good to see you guys too. It's been a while. Yeah. She just, like, obviously, like, rang my bell again about, like, someone from Canada, like, being able to, like, hop in the mix and, like, take care of somebody in The States. You know? Like, showing these young nurses how they do the job. And it's just 1 of those things I've, you know, told the story here so many times, and so I won't go back into the story. But it's just basically, like, somebody like that that's a 25, 30 year nurse that's, like, willing to be on the phone for 5 to 10 hours with somebody in Nebraska. Right? And, like, take care of somebody and, like, know that they spiked her. And I think she calls it snowing. You know? Like like, snowing somebody. You know? Like, they they they got away with, like, doing it, and they almost, like, took my mom's life. You know? And if it wasn't for her, it's like she would not have, you know, walked out of there. She just wouldn't have. And, and and and then we're just talking about the same topic with, you know, the medications that give these people. And I was just I was just saying this in our space about all the side effects. Right? You know? You think about Lipitor and all the things that oh, you have high triglycerides. So instead of eating more, you know, high fatty foods or, you know, you know, meat or whatever it is, you know, that you need to eat so so your body doesn't create the bad cholesterol. They're like, here, let's just get you on Lipitor, and then let's see if 2 years later you go ahead and get type 2 diabetes. Like, it's just so ridiculous. Like, the stuff these doctors get away with doing, and I had another, I'm driving down the road here, so I'm trying to multitask. I always feel like I'm when I get in these space, I'm, like, driving. I'm trying to make sure I don't wreck here. But, yeah, it's just, like, you you just think about what she was just talking about. Like like, that's exactly the point, and I think that's something that everybody needs to talk a lot more about is, like, knowing when you go into a hospital, if you don't have a advocate and you don't have somebody that's in your corner, then it's best not to. And I hate, like, ever giving recommendations, but I've seen it here at Lakeside in Omaha, Nebraska. Like, I've seen what they've done to my mom. You know? And, like I said, without her or without she, like, I I don't know if she would have walked out of there. You know? Like, you have to, like, school these young nurses. You have to be a mentor to these girls and these and these guys. You have to, like, show these people, you know, what they told you was wrong. You know? And that's and that goes against the ego. Right? Because the ego tells you, well, I went to school, you know, and I spent however many years. And especially the doctors. Right? They're going 10 years. They're making 200,000. They're making 400,000 a year. And, it's tough for them, you know, like, to take that in the chin. Right? But you have to chin check them. And I love the term chin check. You know? It's like in boxing. Like, you know, you're in the third round, and you're the the the clearly the better boxer, and you have to give a chin check to the guy because he's testing you. And you're playing with him too at the same time because you you know, maybe there's, you know, maybe you're is it a thrown fight to where, like, it has to go to the sixth or whatever? And I always love referring things back to boxing because it makes it so much clearer and easier. And you see some of these people. The best example I have was Roy Jones Junior. He was 40 I think he was 46, and he got in there with a 30 year old guy, And his record was good. He had a great record. But he got in there with Roy Jones Junior, and he thought that he was gonna take him out. Like, he really did. And he's throwing, like, real heat to this guy. You know, he's throwing body punches, and Roy's, like, just checking him with his elbows. And then it got into the sixth round, and Roy Jones junior at 40 I think he was 46. He started turning up on the guy and, like, doing the old school stuff he used to do in his twenties when he was the best in the world. And it just kinda shows right there. Like, it shows you the difference in skill sets, you know, and I and I think it all just kinda relates to what she just said with nurses. These people need to be chin checked. Like, people need to have a mentor, and I think that's what she was saying. Like, it's like, there there's nothing there. Who's taking care of us? You know? Who's doing this? Who's stepping up and not being cowardly and actually saying what needs to be said in the time it needs to be said? You don't say it the next day. You don't wait till the next week and then maybe kinda go back in. No. You have to do it then. And that's exactly what she did. That's what she did for my mom. She went we went right to the nurses station and right there, like, right there. Hey. What did you just give her? What did you give his mom? And and then they had to say it. They had to tell us. So I just think it was all, you know, divine timing, anything you guys can think spiritual. I think that's what we have to always go back to and focus on in these groups. It's just that amazing, you know, will of of humanity. Right? Just just go back to the will of humanity and fight. So, anyway, I had something else I wanted to say, and I just lost it. So if I if I if I remember it, I'll put my hand back up. Thank you. 0: It'll come back to you. T Bird, any comments 6: or comments? 2 things. Number 1, I think he called me elderly just now. And number 2, he's right. You you gotta you little shit. I don't know his mom, but I did. I stayed on the phone. I think we can even though I'm bedridden and I'm sick from the stupid vaccine, I'm not sick. They poison me. It's not sick. I don't wanna say I'm sick because I'm not I'm not sick. You can hear me. But I'm on oxygen now. All my organs are failing because of the stupid vaccine. So what I do wanna say is when you're a nurse, you're always a nurse. And if you're a mom or a woman and you love people, you'll always be that person, and you'll always help someone. That's how I feel. And, when he said something's wrong with my mom and he called me and I heard her, I knew right away it was my instinct. And that's why I stayed on the phone with him, and he kept me on speaker phone as I walked through the entire hospital and told him, go here. Go here. Talk to this person. And I was very threatening, but they don't know who I am, and they don't know where I am. So what I wanted to say was we always have a voice even if we are bedridden. I am bedridden literally, and I can't drive anymore. I don't work. I don't have anything. But I have my voice, and my brain is still semi functioning. What I wanted to to say is I'm so grateful that he listened to me because he could have thought, you know, she's freaking crazy, which most people do think, and I probably am a little bit. You have to be crazy to keep doing this. Right? But it keeps you motivated. Never give up. Always speak out. Support all of us, like, the the loved ones. Like, we've lost people, and, we're gonna continue to. But if we can all just use our, education and our research together, We all have met beautiful friends through this process, unfortunately, but also fortunately. And, I'm very grateful to have spoken to his mother after she survived, and she was so grateful. It just, you know what, that motivated me to stay alive also. Right? I didn't do it for any gratitude. It was just these motherfuckers are killing your mom, and they're snowing her just like Catherine said. That's exactly the terminology. Kyle, you weren't in the space. That that that I had not met Catherine before, but I heard her just speaking about her husband, and she's a nurse. And and when she says the word snow, that's exactly what they do. They snow that's exactly the terminology. And they'd snowed your mom, and it's she would've died for sure. There's no question. She was incoherent. She was seeing things. She was delirious. Like, all these things, and you didn't know. You were just sitting there, and you said you you texted me and said, t bird, something's wrong with mom. I don't I don't understand what's happening. And I just needed to talk to her on the phone, and I could tell she was kinda slurring. She wasn't, like, right? I don't know her. But you're right. We all just need to use our instinct. And if there's any nurses that are injured that are listening, please reach out to people and and use your instincts. Shauna Carroll, who lost her daughter, and you guys know this. She was in your space, actually. And, I I looked at her medical records, and and and everyone was, like, telling her, oh, don't trust TeeBird. She's gonna charge you money or something. So she was not trusting me, and I'm like, oh my god. I did all the research on what her daughter was given, and I'm like, holy shit. Like, I can't even believe they combined the stuff. Like, remdesivir is it's 1 of the problems, but when you combine it with the Ativan and the other stuff, that is what's deadly. Like, it's it's lethal within days, actually, with with what her daughter and all of your loved ones were put on. It's not just remdesivir. And I just wanted to say that because I'm not charging any money. I don't want money. I just, like, I just want the truth the truth, and we're never gonna get I'll be honest, there's never gonna be justice for what they did. I I don't. It just doesn't fit in my I'm so sorry. I'm just it just breaks my heart that you guys lost someone. And it's mhmm. K. 3: Thank you. 2: Well, good, sir. I I love you. But you know what? You've lost something too, and it breaks my heart because they robbed you of, you know, so many things. But yet, you're not gonna let them take anything else, and you're helping others. And that's what helps my heart heal is hearing what you're doing. Even as you suffer, you're helping other people. And see, that's what they didn't count on, t bird. They didn't count that we none of us would lay down. Even those of us who lost our spouses and our family members, they didn't count on that. They didn't count on the fact that we're not gonna lay down. We're not gonna give up. We're gonna use the suffering that we've endured to help everybody else and to push them back and to not let them continue. Amen. 1: Tiburt, part of the reason that we got into the discussion about Ativan, and we were also talking about Prezadex is because here in The States, there is a jury trial. It's the first jury trial, happening because of Ativan and PresidEx. I have put a link, with attachments for every day that has been recorded. You will be livid. I think you probably know the story about Grace Sherra, the 19 year old Down syndrome child. But some of the stuff that's come out in the trial will make your hair curl, and that's what we started out talking about. So if you want And 0: not just not just the stuff that's coming out, but they're the the defense is treatment Mhmm. Of missus Sharra Yep. Particularly was really offensive. And to me, it was it was sort of a repeat of the protocol, but in the courtroom Mhmm. Where everything that she believed, everything that she ever said out loud was framed as wackadoodle crazy conspiracy theory stuff. And they tried to make her look like a crazy person for talking about a lot of the same things we're talking about tonight. And that that's infuriating, and that is part of what we're fighting against here. Because if enough people were to know, if enough people were to tune in to this space and get the lay of the land of what's been going on and what is still going on right now under pretext of public health policy, no 1 would tolerate it. No 1 would condone what's going on right now. So it's really it's our mission to shift that narrative to the point that that lawyer would be laughed out of the courtroom for saying, oh, I I heard that you, you know, you were talking about the vaccine as a bioweapon. Is that true, missus Sharra? 6: Can you can you educate me? Is is Prasadex Remdesivir, or is that a different 1 that I've not heard of? 0: That's a different 1. 6: K. We have different drugs up here in Canada, but I I know we all have the same but different. But okay. I'll have to look that up, Presodex. P r e s how do you spell that? 2: It's, p r e c e d e x. 6: Okay. Thank you. 5: You paralyzed them. 0: Yep. Basically, relax their entire body, probably in preparation for being put on a vent. I don't know. 5: Well and and with common sense, who would give that if you have trouble breathing? Gonna paralyze your respiratory system? 2: Right. Exactly. Because if you're paralyzing musculature, guess what the diaphragm is? It's a muscle. Yeah. 5: It was pretty basic common sense. 2: Yes, ma'am. 6: Do they have any timelines on from the time of does does anyone know, the timeline of the intervention of Precedex and then respiratory failure? Does anybody know those timelines or how how many hours that took? Does anyone know? Just for. It 2: well, 1: it's, it depended on, I think, it depended on the hospital and or the doctor's choices, what they decided to use first. 5: Yes. Some of them were on morphine too. 1: Yeah. And see, like, my husband started out with Ativan, then Presodex was added when they thought they were gonna put him on a ventilator, and then they just kept giving him the the Presodex for 2: about 2 1: and a half days. Now because of this this particular trial, we know that the insert the package insert for PresidEx says that you are not supposed to give that drug to a patient for any longer than 24 hours or it will cause acute respiratory distress syndrome. How convenient. 5: What a holes. Sorry. I just can't help it. 1: No. But you're right. Now in the trial, they are not challenging the idea that Precedex is used in ICU units in order to relax patients when they are having difficulty breathing as if it because it's nonhallucigenic. But that then they're putting it together with the Ativan and the expert witness. This is where, T Bird, you will just, like, get off on this stuff. The expert witness yeah. Go ahead. The expert witness points out that by combining Ativan in this case, they also call lorazepam. By combining the 2, they're synergistic synergistic, and they actually strengthen each other. 2: Yes. Absolutely. They absolutely do. You should never you should never combine medications that have the same essential action on the body because you compound the effect, AKA overdose. Mhmm. 1: And in this case, this young woman, her dad was in the hospital with her from they went in late on the sixth of the month of October. And on the seventh and on the eighth, he was there. Because as a Down syndrome child, by rights, she had, it used to be in America, Americans with Disabilities Act, ADA protections. And they took him out of there claiming that they took him out because he was sick. Oh, he was sick, so you needed a security guard? But that's another question. They took him out, I think, on the tenth. The problem was that on the seventh and the eighth, they overdosed her and had to bring her back. He was never told. He was in the room and thought that she was just getting more sick. No 1 told him that they had to rescue her to bring her back. 5: I went through that too. When I saw my husband, I thought he was in a coma. I had no idea he was drugged. 1: Yep. I see we've got hands up, Chelsea. And I'm sorry, but I didn't pay a whole lot of attention whether 6: Kyle or 3: Same thing happened to me with my dad, girls. 1: Oh, I'm so sorry. 0: Welcome, mama. You wanna tell us a little more about that? Is it Brandy? 3: Yeah. Boy, I got in at the right time with the lorazepam. You used to talking about Ativan. Right? 1: Yep. Yes, ma'am. 3: Yes. Well, when my dad went in, I think T Bird heard this story. My dad went in 5 years ago, to the hospital. Just chest pains. He'd already had issues with the heart and stuff like that. Anyhow, long story short, he was getting ready to come out. We were just waiting for a hospital bed to come home, and I got a phone call stating my dad was nonresponsive. So I went into the hospital. They tried to stop me because it was COVID. It was 20 20, April. And, they tried to stop me at the door, told them I had the POA, and I'd call the cops and have them bringing me in. Anyway, they escorted me into the room. My dad was sitting at the nurses' station. Wasn't any problem with them. They forgot to touch him by trying to wake him up. He didn't have his hearing aids in. So the next night or the next morning, 6AM, I get a phone call. Your dad's nonresponsive. So I thought it was the same thing again. They said, no. He's literally, like, gonna stop breathing. So I go running in, find out he's got a fentanyl patch on his on his arm. My father's been allergic to narcotics for the last 40 years. It's on his chart. And then he said she said he had get she had given him a lorazepam half an hour prior to us showing up. So between that and, the fentanyl, it relaxed his lungs so much, and he was allergic to narcotics. It stopped him from breathing. So I requested that they intubate my dad because that's what he had to have in order for the fentanyl to come out of his system. Well, 2 days prior to that, they had him sign a DNR and a DNI. 1: Did I understand you correctly? They knew you were on your way, and they added lorazepam on top of the fentanyl while you were on your way? 3: Yes, ma'am. 1: You cannot tell me these evil bastards aren't just outright killing because it's easier to get rid of the patient this way. 3: Oh, I'm not done yet. I had the power of attorney in order to say you are doing a DNI on my father. And I said, no. He signed a DNI. My mother was sitting right there. She was first as POA, but I've been POA for the last 20 years. She's never acted it till that day. I was stuck not being able to do anything for my dad. 6: I have a question. I know what okay. I've been an RN for so many years. I know what a DNR is, but I don't know what a DNI is. 3: You're not intubate. 6: Oh, never heard of that. 3: That's I've got his DNR papers right here. Do not intubate. 1: That's interesting. I 3: didn't know 4 stages of DNR, hon. Not just 1 paper. It's 4 stages you gotta check off the boxes. 6: Never I've never seen that in my life. I shit you not. Thank you. 3: Right? Yes. I I can actually read them off to you. I've got my dad's DNR right here. 6: If if that's okay, I'd like to know. 3: Absolutely. Just let me grab it. Mhmm. 6: Has it does any other nurse know about DNI? I'd never heard of that, to be honest. I must be retarded. 3: Oh, no. No. They did they do not tell you that there is more than DNR. They do not tell you. This came from the, technician from the the angiogram that my dad gave came in, and I was dad's POA. So I was there when he signed it, and he said, oh, no. There's more than 1 DNR. Where's me? My, binder for grandpa's stuff. Oh, here it is. 1: Just a minute here. 3: Because I'm going through litigation. Okay. What is right? No. Not. 6: Because I have my DNR, which has the red code at the top because it has to have that red code, right, if you have a DNR. I have it on my fridge. That's what my coroner friend told me to do. Because if I if I get found dead, it's gonna be in my house, and if a paramedic show up here, they I don't want them trying to resuscitate me. That's just my my decision. But I and that's the only form I have is the DNR, but I I did not know there was a all those other things. 3: A DNI. Yeah. Just a second here. The individual piece of paper. 1: I don't like this. 3: Of course, when you're looking for it, you can't find the bloody thing. Give me a second. You guy you guys talk. I'll find it, hon. 0: Alright. Kyle, you go ahead while, while she finds that. I thought I saw Kyle's hand up. 7: Yeah. Yep. Can you hear me okay? 3: Yep. 7: Thanks. Now I was gonna say, it's that domino effect. I know we've talked about this a lot before, but, just, you know, the kindness and, and and getting out there and doing something that you don't think you can do. And that goes for all of us, you know, in these in these places. A lot of times I'll hear a song going down the road, and it just freaking sparks me. Right? To where you just have that instant. You know? It's like an instant connection to all of this. And, it's been happening a lot lately. And I've tried to talk about this in spaces sometimes, but for a lot of people, it's kinda over the head or, you know, they might think, oh, this guy is just whatever he's saying, but but it's true. You know? Like, there's just there's just been so many synchronicities lately, and I hope that's happening for everybody, you know, spiritually. I kinda feel like we're all in this place right now. It's like a big turning point. Right? And, I kinda feel like we're all feeling it at the same time, and it's affecting everybody different. Right? So some people are kinda taking a a side road or a or a low road, and some people are just taking the full on high road. And I think a lot of us are trying to do that on a daily basis, and it's been tough, because we're feeling all the emotions of kind of everybody and everything at the exact same time. And, and I just wanted to go back to, you know, just, you know, what these doctors are prescribing, especially the the bioweapon disabled and how they're giving them things for nerve pain or they're giving them things for this, but they're not truly looking at substance. And they're not looking at what the complications are of some of the meds they're giving them. And I think that's what truly pisses me off the worst, just to bring that up quick because I see what they put my mom on. I've seen what they put my dad on with Lipitor, and then it led to his type 2 diabetes 2 years later. There's just so many different things that are clearly malpractice situations, but nobody will do anything or nobody will say anything about it because they feel like if they do, then they don't have a doctor anymore. And I think it's just all based on that thing we've we've been talking about in these spaces for years, which is fear and how fear is the root of all evil. And I just I I cannot stress that enough to everybody in here, that, you know, it's time to ditch every single emotion you've had in the past and just start fresh. You know? And if you can do that on a daily basis and I actually read something earlier. It said, heal heal the inner child to free the adult. I don't know if you guys saw that post on here, but very, very prevalent. Heal the inner child to free the adult. And we all have this stuff. We have emotions from way back, and we have things PTSD and all these things that hold us back every day. But I feel like if we can somehow get into the moment every day of our life, you know, and wake up, like, new every single day, and just remember consistency beats everything. Like, if you could be consistent in what you're doing, if that supplementation, if that's drinking a certain amount of water right when you wake up, if it's eating eggs, whatever it is to get you where you need to be to get supplemented, like, that's that's how I see everything. I see everything as consistency. And, anyway, I just wanna bring that up, just that consistency and just how much I appreciate all of you, and God bless everybody. Losses, in in the current, everybody doing what they're doing. It means the world to everybody, especially, you know, the injured and and and the people that are backing them. So God bless all you. Thank you. 2: Thank you, Kyle. It looks like that mama may have found the paper. 3: I got it. Okay. That is right from PRHC and Peterborough. Advanced care planning order 4 levels care, cardiopulmonary resuscitation, CPR, and do not resuscitate DNR. Here's the boxes. A, full care only. B, full care full medical care with no ICU admission, no intubation, no chest compression, defibrillator, DNR. Refer to description b below. C is full medical care with ICU admission, but no intubation and no chest compression. Defibrillation, DNR refers to section c. Full medical the next 1 is d, full medical care with ICU admission, intubation, but no chest compression, or defibulation. And my father, they had put full medical care with ICU admission, intubation, and chest compression, defibulation, CPR. He checked that 1 off so he could have intubation, and this was signed 03/14/2019, '1 month and '2 days before my dad passed away. They told me he signed a DNR so they could have intubated him. 2: Wow. 6: Wow. Do do the this is actually valuable. Now I'm I'm picturing the form now. It it's like a big square box, and there's 4 checkboxes inside it. Right? 2: Yes, ma'am. 6: K. Yeah. I know that 1. 3: That's the cardiopulmonary. The 1 underneath is medical intervention. It's comfort care only, full medical care with no ICU admission, full medical care with ICU admission but no intubation. And the next one's full medical care with, ICU admission intubation but no chest compression. And e, full medical care with ICU admission intubation and chest compression, defibrillation, full resuscitation. That's the medical interventions. 6: Would would do do the Americans do you guys know if you had 1 of these forms? And if you do, can that help your case at all? Any of you? 2: My husband did not have that form. And I know for a fact that they had private conversations with him. And I can infer that they told him he was going to die because he sent texts to the lady who worked for him and to his sister saying that he was, quote, checking out, end quote. And I knew what that meant when they told me. He did not send it to me because he was trying to protect me from that. And, but his coworker that he sent it to got all excited and called me and said, is he getting out of the hospital? And I I said, why? Why do you say that? She said he sent me a text saying he was checking out, and I went, no. He's not no. What he's saying is they've told him he's dying. So I contacted him, and at that point, he couldn't really talk. All he could do was text. And, he they had literally told him that and convinced him to sign to go on the vent. So, they were literally manipulating him while he was drugged up, and he had he could not possibly have really consented. Because when I finally got to see the text, what he typed was misspelled, and they figure the friend figured out what he was saying, and that's why she was excited. But, no. He got no consent, and he didn't have any paperwork. And his signature to go on the vent was not a signature. It was basically where they said the patient consented because there's no way he could sign. 5: You know what? All my years I worked as a nurse, I've never heard someone say you're gonna die. I mean, that's beyond my comprehension. 2: Yeah. I mean, he had been in the hospital at this point a week, and they wanted him on that vent. And so I asked him yes, no questions because he could not talk, because he was on the BiPAP. And, they I was I could see that he was, like, not very alert because he was his eyes were closing intermittently when I was asking him. So they literally lied to him and got him to go on the vent. And after that, there was really, there was nothing I could do because I couldn't get into the medical records, and they did everything that they did to everyone else at that point. 3: Well, that's 5: to me is just so That to me is just cruel. I have never, in all the years I worked, ever heard that or would I say that? I mean 2: I know. 5: I worked with dying people and, you know, they come back and, yeah, I I've never heard that. 2: Yeah. They, you know, they he he never wanted to go on a vet. We had talked about it many times in our marriage because, you know, I worked in hospital, and he never wanted that. And I think they had to say that to him to get him in his drug state to technically agree. And, they just they wanted to get him on that vent because it was $30,000. And then after that, they could just keep him drugged, and that's exactly what they did. They kept him snowed the entire time until the last day, and then they overdosed him. I got his record 6 months later. It took 6 months fighting with them. And they overdosed him during that time because I process served a letter of demand to try to get him out of there and to get him different treatment. And, they literally massively overdosed him as soon as that was delivered and called me the next day and said his, pupils were not responding to light. I knew what that meant. So I asked them, you know, well, did he have a heart attack? Did he have a stroke? You know? Oh, no. No. None. Nope. He he we he just his eyes aren't responding to a lot. And so they knew what they had done. They knew they had overdosed him. They knew that he was neurologically injured because of it. And they wanted him out of that bed because the very next day, they let me in the hospital after 22 days. They would not let me or my husband in. Once they knew that he was gone, they let me and my son in. And, then they started with, well, you know, you need to sign for the the the, the ventilator to be pulled. They wouldn't give him any EEG even though the same day I was asking for it, they had done blood draws and other invasive, procedures, but they wouldn't stick stickers on his head so I could see if he was neurologically there or not. They refused to do it. So what they wanted was they wanted the bed empty, and they wanted me to sign to pull the tube. And since I knew that his eyes weren't responding to light, finally, after 48 hours, went ahead and signed for it to be done because I knew he was most likely gone, but they would not give me the comfort of knowing exactly what was happening. So it was they wanted him out of the bed, and they got what they wanted. It it still horrifies me to this day. 1: I'm so sorry, Miriam. 2: Thank you. It's still, you know, it still is hard to talk about, but I'm determined to talk about it because I guarantee you there's so many others out there that they did the exact same thing to, and they don't know that they drugged them to death. They don't know why all of a sudden they got to come into the hospital. They don't know why, well, you know, they're gonna pass. We can't keep their blood pressure up. Well, you know, when you when you damage the brain enough and you damage the respiratory centers and you damage the neurological part of the body, then, of course, you can't keep your blood pressure up. All your organs start failing. And, you know, I knew that I couldn't prove it until I got the record 6 months later. But most people think, well, you know, my family member, they just they died of COVID. They, you know, they went on the vent. They couldn't save them. But that's not what happened. If they made it through the starvation and the lack of fluids and they made it, you know, through the remdesivir and they made it through the original drugging. Once they get to that, you know, third week, they're going to finish them off so they can get them out of that bed because, you know, the bed days insurance is running out. It's not coincidence that, statistically, a large portion of the people that we have looked at, they die on those days. It's just not. 1: And I don't know, if anybody made this point, because I had a phone call and I missed some of the conversation. So I apologize if I'm repeating myself or repeating other people, but it's become very clear in the Sherra case that by simply saying do not intubate DNI, the hospital slash doctor and the nurses, when that is added to the computer, it doesn't come out as DNI. It comes out as DNR. Because if your loved 1 is so sick that we need to intubate and you said not to, then we're just considering them DNR. 2: Yes. And for those who aren't aware, that's the reason why if someone chokes and they don't get any airflow, you have less than 5 minutes before they will go into cardiac arrest. Because without oxygen to the brain and without oxygen in exchange for the heart, the heart then goes into a rest because there's no oxygen to the muscle, and the muscle stops pumping. The heart is a muscle. Oh. So anytime that that someone is a DNI, they are effectively a DNR because when they don't when for whatever reason, if they do what they did to Grace and they overdose them and stop their breathing, once you stop their breathing, they're dead. Because when you don't have oxygen, the heart, you will go into cardiac arrest. And they knew this. So, you know, d n I DNI, DNR, the difference is about 5 minutes of lack of oxygen. That's that's the only difference. 1: Right. So it's just that this, new paradigm in health care that we are in is a minefield. And without people like T Bird and Catherine and Miriam who are all medically trained in some way, we are all effed in a hospital. 2: Yep. And, you know, the thing is they made the perfect kill box because even though I saw what was happening, They had this was a this was 2020. They had the ICU lock. No lawyers would talk to me. I called 8 to 10 of them. Yeah. So, you know, there's nothing you're going to do if they have your loved 1 captive there behind locked doors and a and a lawyer won't get any kind of injunction, won't even talk to you. He don't it was a perfect kill box. I mean, we have in this group, doctors who were killed at their own hospitals. Now look. If if a doctor and a doctor's family and their colleagues still do it, I I don't think any of us have a hope of making it out of that trap. Once you go in, I mean, you're at their mercy. It's a little different now because you can have advocates there. But during that time, there there was no hope once you were in there. It's sort of an absolute miracle. There just wasn't. And, you know, they got better once families got in there, then they got better of just making it not quite so obvious. Like, poor Scott Sharra. He had no idea that they had overdosed his daughter twice before they did it the third time. Because, you know, we just don't conceive of the fact that that's what they're doing. You know, we're gonna naturally attribute it to, well, they're getting sicker. But, no, that's not what was happening. 1: And they know how to work they know how to work our, naiveness, and they know how to work the emotions, it it's become really obvious what because now as we've gotten kind of out of the pandemic and they're not as anal or, militant about having visitors in the hospital. The thing is that when a when when there's a patient that's that's kinda teetering on the edge, usually, because they pushed them there, there'll be, you know, like, guidelines passed to the family. Well, if if we don't do this, this is gonna happen. And if you don't do that, it's this is gonna happen. And when they don't get the desired result from the people in the room, they will work on another member of the family that they feel they can turn to try to get whatever they desire. It's amazing the psychological pressure that's being put on family members. Wow. And, you know, you'll get mom and the son are totally on board with whatever they've decided for dad, but they'll get the little sister to disagree and totally get in the way and just let her run rampant. And it's it's become really obvious that somebody's figured out how to use psychology to win the game that the hospital wants to play. 2: Oh, yeah. I mean, they've 5: all I think the bottom line is money. 2: Yes. It is money. And the thing is they will identify a family member who still, you know, doesn't understand that the white coat doesn't doesn't automatically mean that you can trust them. And they will they will they will pick the person that still has that trust and that doesn't know what's going on, and they will literally pit that person against the other people who are actually trying to protect this the per their loved 1 that's in the hospital. And we've had that for real happen. And at that point, you you can't you can't help the person because the family is in turmoil, and you're you've got them fighting against each other. And that's when, you know, the system does usually get what it wants, and that's to move the person through the protocol to 1: to 2: the end that is coming and coming quickly. 5: For money. 2: Yes. For money. 0: Brandy, go ahead. 2: Brandy, you may still be muted because we cannot hear you. 0: Well, I'm still seeing her hand up. Maybe it's, you know, 1 of those fun little x remnants that isn't actually indicative of anything. But if oh, yeah. And now she's dropped. 2: Yeah. It's a lovely x glitch. 1: If they'd stop playing with the algorithms, maybe we could actually, you know, get something accomplished. 0: Yeah. Oh my gosh. Don't even don't even go don't even bother with the for you tab on x. It's been completely obliterated with I don't even know what criteria they're using anymore. I see Brandy has rejoined us. Brandy, I'm sending you Mike. 2: Yeah. Well, I'll just put this here. Elon has had a rough week, so who knows what he's what he's doing with with x. You know? He it's been a wild 1. So 3: Hey. What happened with him and Trump? I missed all of that. 0: The short answer, I think, is Palantir. 2: Amen. It is Palantir. It sure is. Yep. I will grab my Substack that talks all about Palantir because, you'll be really interested to hear the background with Palantir and, what's really happening with the fight between Trump and Musk. 0: Okay? But, honestly, we should all be up in arms about, about what's being done with Palantir right now. And, if if this if this groupuffle with between Musk and Trump is about that, then, you know, some some infighting is good and justified. Because if this were to go through, it's it's really the nightmare scenario we've all been fighting against for so long. 2: Yeah. The long and short is it is, the substack talks about a kill and control grid. So if you think about those words, kill and control grid, we've already had a version of that. And Palantir is that kill and control grid on steroids. 3: What is Palantir? Don't mean to sound ignorant. 2: Palantir is a a company, ran by Peter Thiel. And, basically, it's integrating AI into every system and and particularly for this talk talk tonight into health care. And when that happens, you think doctors are heartless. Wait till you've got AI making these decisions according to a protocol. So 3: Oh, gotcha. 2: Yeah. So so, basically, that's it in a nutshell, but it's it's it's much bigger even than that. It's hard to really put it into words. I I'm gonna go ahead and step 4: that up. 3: Oh, I understand what you're talking about. I just didn't know the name behind it. 2: Yes. 0: Yeah. Up to this point, they've really served as as, like, a military or, you know, intelligence contractor. But what they're what they're discussing doing is basically giving them, you know, the fact that all of our information is comp compartmentalized and difficult to access across agencies is is an intentional pain in the butt. Because if if those constraints are removed and all of that data is assimilated in 1 place, then and especially now in the in the technological age where and with burgeoning artificial intelligence, where they can observe every detail about you, centralizing all of that information in 1 place and giving AI access to it to detect precrime. And, I mean, this is it's exactly the kind of thing Orwell would be rolling in his grave about right now, and it cannot go through. We have to, you know, become wise to this really quick and speak out about it, or what are we even doing? 2: Yes. 100%. And I will say this. I've been researching even more since I wrote the substack, and what they're literally talking about is having AI run everything, including the HHS, the IRS. I mean, literally running every and, you know, when you've got even just the HHS and the IRS being run by AI slash Palantir programs, and there's a couple particular programs that you will read about inside the substat that I just put in the purple pill that are extremely concerning because these programs were originally used as, weapons of war to target terrorists. Now they're gonna be repurposed to be used to, basically rank and target us as far as our health care, our money. It's super concerning. Just take a look at it. 0: Right. They already have this, you know, they've already collected this list of who they determine are terrorists, and there are about 3,000,000 Americans on that list. That is they are casting a very wide net. And, and with all of our all of our data and our information on our social media and, you know, all of that data that the government has collected on us since birth in 1 place and, and with AI just having absolute access to it, you know, why don't we just why don't we just call it the matrix now? Because that's that's the world we're creating, and we we can't let that happen. We really can't. 2: It is absolutely insane. I mean, but for some reason, the current heads of our government thinks that this is a good idea. Not sure why they think that, but they do. 0: I mean, this is the worst case scenario, isn't it? When when it doesn't matter where we cast our vote. No matter what we do, we're being driven towards this techno dystopia. And, no. I mean, we just have to loudly and resoundingly say no to this or it will become law. And and they're simultaneously while they're trying to give Palantir access to literally everything, They are trying to outlaw or or effectively disallow the states from making any legislation or any law or any any regulation on AI. Yep. So, basically, the federal government is saying, you guys, you know, we got this. This is ours. You have no say over what we're going to do with this. The states will be helpless to to do anything about it if this goes through. And I don't know if, you know, I I like to think, you know, being being generous that, you know, maybe maybe the people putting this through haven't even read it. Maybe AI actually wrote all of this and snuck it in. Like, they need to read the legislation they are passing. 8: We know that they didn't get to read it actually because, was complaining about that. Johnson suspended the 3 day rules that everyone wanted and, ran it through. It was a pass to see what's in it. 0: Did you hear that Johnson suspended the 3 day rules, so they just were able to ram it through. 2: Yes. And, for anybody who doesn't know, Thomas Massey is a Kentucky representative and, personally met him, familiar. So when he throws a fit about something like that, it's a big deal. So, yes, I can tell you that this is not accidental, that they have, basically said, nope. The states are not gonna have any legal right to challenge the system that we are installing at the federal level. So, basically, you know, forget the constitution, forget state's rights. It's not you know, it's it's bad. So people really do need to be aware of this and start contacting all their representatives to say no. Absolutely not. 0: And put this in context of the conversation we're having about COVID related crimes against humanity. What we witnessed over the last several years were unprecedented abuses of rights that we've held to be inalienable since we first opened our eyes. And and they used your political beliefs. They used, you know, what political activism you might engage in. They used your social media history to debunk, deplatform, and sometimes imprison people with over over alleged public health policy concerns. And, you know, it they were doing that to achieve something like this. And now they're that was like cart before horse. And now they're trying to, you know, maybe lay the groundwork another way to achieve the same goal. And once they have all these all this foundation in place, it's really just a flip the switch before all of those worst abuses we witnessed over the last several years become the standard. 2: Yeah. And the thing is, it'll be the standard across the system. It won't be for only for public health emergencies or pandemics. That's going to be the system as is, and that's why this is Yeah. As horrific as what we have lived through. We've got to stand up and just let our politicians know. You you go through this, your history, dude. I mean and and you can't you need to share the heck out of this information so that because most people have no idea. They watch the drama between Trump and Musk, and they think they're just having a little, you know, bromance breakup, you know, that it's a fight, just a little public tizzy fight. No. It's it's much more than that. 0: And and it's a it's a tremendous distraction because, really, all eyes should be on this right now. I just end the the beginning of subsection c. It's in the nest. Subsection c states that no state or political subdivision may enforce any law or regulation regulating artificial intelligence models, artificial intelligence systems, or automated decision systems during the 10 year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this act. And note all the verbal redundancies in that. I I really I really do think AI wrote it. 2: It it sounds like it did. And like I said, take into consideration what Chelsea is calling your attention to, and then go and look at the Palantir Substack. And you can see why, they're doing that because they don't want any other recourse. This is a this is a control grid that is coming, unless we stand up and fight. 0: Brandy, I'm glad you were able to rejoin us. I know you've been, dropping and coming back. I'm sure x is, x is just having a bit of fun with us tonight. Anyone, if you're trying to get up, hit the mic in the bottom left hand corner of your screen. If you're having a hard time, DM me, and we can try to resolve it. We've been having some issues over the last several weeks. I think x is under under attack, frankly. Go ahead, Brandy. 3: I'm wondering about Elon. Like, I think the world of that man. I think he wants to repopulate and everything else, but then I think his autistic brain is flipping on the other side. And with all this, robots and robotics on everything, like you said, in the health care, in in, the automotive section, making cars. What's the sense of repopulating the world if nobody's gonna work in it? 2: Yeah. That makes you wonder if the narrative is being flipped on purpose because, you know, they rhyme. Repop and depop. Right? Yes. Yeah. So far, we haven't seen repopulation. We're seeing depopulation. Birth rates are crashing because of what they've done. 3: Oh, yeah. No. I know I know all that. I just mean his mindset. 2: Oh, exactly. And that's why I wonder if it's purposeful misdirection because think about this. 3: He doesn't have the brain for that. You gotta remember what Elon Elon's an autistic, brain. He doesn't have the brain for that. 2: Well, 3: he doesn't yeah. He doesn't understand evil. Trust me. I have a 30 year old that is exactly like this man. They don't understand evil. What they understand is good, but they can be very, very easily manipulated, and that's what I'm worried about. 2: Right. I mean and, again, you know, your intentions can be good. However, you know, when you get into this kind of technology, if it gets in the wrong hands and in the wrong used the wrong way, it can absolutely be great evil. And that's what I'm very, very concerned with, because it appears that the pieces are being laid for an absolute control grid, taking away all the power from away from the States and then installing this this control grid. I mean, it is it is absolutely mortifying. Read about it. See what you think. It's in the purple pill. 3: Okay. Where's the purple pill? I am so 0: It's also okay. So the purple pill is in the bottom bottom right hand corner of this interface. There's a little bubble that has, like, a chat chat bubble and, the number 8. If you click on that, that'll take you to the purple pill, which is really just the the comments to the space. I also pinned it to the nest, which you can find above all of our little avatars. 4: Yeah. 0: So you might be able to see it up there if you don't have any 2: You'll you'll see my name, Miriam Belknap, and you will see it says Palantir's giant database. 3: I got that. Yep. Yep. 2: Yep. That's it. And, you know, it is long, but there's a lot of good detail and a lot of links in there. If you read it and you are concerned about what you read, please take a second to share it with everywhere. 3: Oh, if anybody's following my page, I've lost 5 Facebook pages in the last 5 years because of everything I've posted. I've been going on with this for, like I said, 5 years. I'm 2: Well, there you go. Yeah. Badges of honor. Badges of honor. 3: Goodness. Yes. I've I've been stuck in a closet long enough. 2: So if anyone in here has not gone to Facebook jail or had, you know, put in the corner on Facebook 1: 2 years. 2: You need to work harder. Start sharing things to make them do it because then you know you're on track. 3: Oh, god. Yeah. Alright. 0: Sharing 1 of Miriam's articles is a surefire way to be put in Facebook, John. Just go ahead and test the fear if you're if you're curious. 3: Now I don't know Does anybody know about the messenger? You do know that Zuckerberg is up on the American senate for lying under oath regarding his, affiliation with China. Right? 2: Yes. 3: Okay. So, apparently, it's not so much Facebook as it is Messenger. They are watching and listening to everything on Messenger they have bought and paid for it. And they have all the emails regarding 0: it. This is why, you know, when you get your phone, it comes with all these apps. Delete them. Delete it. Delete Messenger. Delete Facebook. Delete Instagram. Delete all of those games you're never never going to play because you never know what it really is. 3: Exactly. 2: Yep. 0: And it's no accident that you just think of something sometime, and it shows up in your feed 20 minutes later. 2: When I 0: There's no accident When 3: I am talking to my family members, I just go over to Google. I click on Google, and automatically in the search engine, what I was just talking to my son about is up on the search engine. I know damn well they're listening. 2: Oh, yeah. They are listening. There's no doubt about it. And so in some sense, we've already been in a a grid because they already have been collecting all kinds of things. I think they're just getting ready to up their game. 3: Yeah. Like I was telling the space last night, I don't know if you people have ever watched, the movie. It's on Netflix. It's called They Killed My Father First. It's about when they took over Cambodia, and it was a story, about a little Cambodian girl and what happened to her family. It's an amazing true story to watch, and it's scary as hell, but that's just what's coming. 2: Yeah. And, you know, the thing is we have to we have to face it head on, and we have to try to rattle other people into facing it head on because these politicians will do they will just mindlessly vote for it because, you know, the majority leaders and the whips and all those people say, oh, I want you to vote for it. The 1 that I know that does not do that consistently is Thomas Massey, and he's the 1 who was having a fit. So, you know, if he's raising the alarm, it's a big deal. 3: But Trump was going after them as well, and that's why I don't understand. He got scared. Something scared him. 2: Well, when you read the substack, you'll have questions too, but there's also some some signs that, may make people unhappy in the substack because I've got links to things that make you really start to question the entire narrative. So just take a look, see what you think. Look at the links, investigate for yourself. I don't want anybody to, you know, just take what anyone says without 3: No. I research everything. Yep. 2: Yes. I'll have a look, but there's there's a lot to be concerned about right now relative to that. 0: Yep. And, I mean, really, that is what I at least in my estimation, based on the the extraordinary measures that they went to and the the type of regulations that they put in place over the last several years on pretext of public health policy. It was all driving us towards this Because if you if you need your vaxx passed to get into the grocery store and you lose your vaxx passed, that's, you know, that's no good. That's a huge inconvenience. So I think they wanted to inconvenience everyone in this way until everyone was clamoring for their, you know, for their digital ID. So they could just, oh, you know, it's really convenient. You just put it get this little chip or you can wear this bracelet, and you just swipe it every time. It's so convenient. And, you know, what they're doing now just makes that even seem quaint. They won't need to they won't need to track you. They they'll use your phone and all your integrated data across all these systems that you voluntarily use out of convenience and because it's you know, everybody does it. And that's how they'll get you. And because they'll have access to all of it in 1 1 central database, it is it really is frightening. Brandy, if your hand's up, go ahead. 3: Sorry. I didn't take it down. I was just going through Mary's there. Just reading some of the post you have with RFK, Miriam. 2: Oh, yes. Yep. The you know, I'm I'm a very direct person. I just want an answer. 3: Oh, I hear you, girl. My like I said, I I have a 30 year old autistic son, and I have said for years, well, I found out when he was about, 18. I got his medical records and found out he got a double vaccine, 2 weeks about, at public school. So, I got a mountain of paperwork. So I've been I've been following RFK for a while. 2: Yeah. It's a very bewildering time because, you know, there's a lot of, on the surface at least, contradictory actions and words. And, again, not going to make a decision because, you know, you can't really know. But 1 thing we do know for sure is time is going to show us the truth. Well And yeah. 3: When it comes to autism and, we have 8 in our family starting with my father-in-law, my husband, my son. My grandson, is actually just being diagnosed as we speak. I have 2 nieces and 2 nephew, 2 great nephews that have all been diagnosed with autism. 2: Yeah. That yes. So 3: when my son at 30 he's 30 now. When my son started school, at age of 4, at 98, there was 1 in 30000. He was the first student in 2 schools that was diagnosed with autism. Now it is 1 in 27. 2: Yes, ma'am. And that doesn't happen in a decade or 2 unless there are extenuating circumstances. It's not you know, they wanted to say, oh, we don't know. It's, you know, it's genetic, etcetera. No. The the the human body doesn't work that way. There there are external factors that are that are doing this. And, you know, I think it's the age old thing. Let's, you know, if you talk about if you look at what's happening now with the vaccine injuries, it's anything but the COVID vaccine. Right? What's happening? It's because, you know, you take too hot a shower. It's because you garden. It's I mean, these are the 3: It's everything but. 2: Right. And these are the things that they literally put in articles and in the papers, and they this is not a new playbook. They did that with autism. They're doing it with the COVID jab injuries. So, of course, you know, they're never going to blame it on the thing that it actually is. And it's very, very disturbing to see that our that we now have another COVID vaccine that's been approved by the FDA under this HHS, under RFK. So it's very disturbing to me. But, again, you know, lots of people make excuses. We had Mary Holland and Polly Tommy sitting there, and I think that's my my ex post that you were referring to. And, again, you can make excuses. You can say, well, it's a secular religion. Vaccines are a secular religion, and the and this is what Mary Holland said. And, you know, our and Bobby said he wouldn't take away our vaccines. Well, here's the thing. So you're more concerned about people who treat vaccines as a secular religion than you are about the health and well-being of the American people. And you you yourself, RFK, are on video talking about the hospital homicide being a murder, about the mRNA injections being the source of injury and death. 3: So He sued them himself. 2: Yes. So he knows this, but yet the excuse is per the lawyer for CHD on video yesterday, I believe it was, was, well, Bobby said that he's not gonna take away people's vaccines, and, you know, vaccines are like a secular religion. So what she implied was we don't wanna mess with their secular religion, their vaccine religion. And I'm like, you have got to be kidding me. I you know, you couldn't you couldn't get a religious exemption for the COVID vaccine, but because you see it as a religion, you're going to give that a pass. Are you kidding me? 3: What does that tell you? 2: You don't even wanna know what I think about that 1. But, you know, it was the most absurd thing on its face that I've heard anybody say in years. 3: Because the COVID was the major plan, the others weren't. 2: Yeah. I mean, I just literally could I had to pick my jaw up because that's the excuse that it's a secular religion, that vaccines belief in vaccines are a secular religion, and therefore, Bobby's not going to take that away from them. Okay. 0: That's a lot of saying the quiet part out loud, isn't it? 3: Did you know that all our childhood vaccines, they did go through the 10 year study, but did you know that none of them had a placebo group, and he just found that out? 2: Oh, yeah. I mean, that's the other thing that concerns me is, you know, that's great. I'm all for science. I'm very scientific. Yes. We do need gold standard. Yes. We do need real placebo testing, but you know what we need at the same time? We need a moratorium because we already have that you know, we already have proof on VAERS. Huge numbers of injuries and deaths as far as a safety signal. Now they always wanna argue correlation is not causation. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is when you have nearly a million reported injuries, and I forget, is it, like, 50 some thousand or 15? I can't remember. Anyway, it's 5 figures of this, and that's a huge safety signal. So, you know, do your studies. Absolutely. But at the same time, don't stop. Don't don't keep giving them shots until your studies are completed. There's it's it's absolutely ludicrous. I don't I don't know why you can't do both. 3: Where did you hear that it was 50000? I heard it was in the millions in The States. 2: Oh, yeah. The the reported injuries is in is, like, around a million. 3: But No. I heard the deaths were in the million. 2: Oh, the deaths from the hospital protocols, yes. 1600000.0. I'm talking about on VAERS, the in the, COVID shots. 3: Yeah. I thought that's what I heard. 2: Yeah. I'll have to go back and look at it, but, I know it's in 5 figures at least on the deaths that have been reported to VAERS. But remember, Harvard did a study, and they VAERS only picks up about 1 percent. 1 percent. So I promise you it's a lot more than what what 3: is there. Yeah. There is a lot that has not been, reported at all. Exactly. 2: But, you know, I I'd like to use the actual because even that alone, just the 1 percent has already exceeded a safety signal. So there's no excuse because for the swine flu vaccine in 1976, I believe it was, there are 54 people, and they pulled it. 54 people, and they pulled it. So somebody explain to me what the difference is between then and now. 0: Well, then they weren't concurrently running, depopulation propaganda campaign about how you know, there's just too many people, and the planet would be better off if most of humanity were to just, you know, without causing any suffering, drop off the basement. 3: Why do you think it's so easy to get made in Canada? 0: Yep. It's so sad that a lot of people have taken this on board, and they're like, yep. The planet would probably be better off if I weren't on it. I guess I'll go apply for me. And then they get it, and then that is that is a world of potential that this world has now been deprived of. Because every every sing I believe every single individual is a world unto themselves and a world of potential. And, and those people will never have the opportunity to explore that potential because they don't have okay. Now some people, if they're, like if their daily existence is just a living hell where their entire like, their flesh feels like it's burning 24 7. Like, I'm in favor of compassionate, common sense dealing with these difficult things. I am I'm not a hardliner. But to devalue life to the point that we we just you know, it's just like taking out the trash. You just, you know, put the put the person in the death pod and push the button and the gas is that they smell like pretty flowers while they put you to sleep. Like, this is this is horrible. This should not be we this is something we should take very seriously. 3: That's not actually how it goes. 0: Yeah. I know. I know. That's what they sell to people, though. They have ads, particularly in Canada that I've seen promoting this where it's like, oh, the family's standing on the beach saying goodbye, and, oh, it's this peaceful and you know? 3: Well, coming from experience, we were standing with my husband's best friend. He his wife had cancer. He got diagnosed with cancer. He literally, signed up for MAID so his kids could look after his wife, and he would not be a burden on them, believe it or not. And we were all there for him while he had MAID. And it was like being, sorry for the, example. It's like being with your dog when you put your dog down. It was absolutely peaceful. And he was going to suffer the next 3 weeks really badly. So for that, absolutely, I agree. But when they offer it to my autistic son because he's depressed and can't get a girlfriend, that's what happened to a 17 year old down in Toronto, and his mother allowed that to happen. And they okayed that, and that's before it was okayed for mental illness. Now they've signed it on for mental illness, and nobody is even aware of that yet. 0: No. They're not they're not even they're not even restricting it to health issues or mental health. They're saying, in many cases, if you're too poor, then you're entitled to maid services. Exactly. If you can't afford to survive. 1 woman, she was disabled. I think she was a Canadian veteran, and she was disabled. And she was having a hard time getting up and down the stairs. And the government had said they would help her with the stairs, and it had taken, like, 5 years. And she still didn't have any way to get up the stairs. So she, you know, she made a stink about it. And, they're like, oh, well, you know, since this is taking so long, we we can't fix your stairs, but we can offer you euthanasia. You can just you know, we can fast track you on the May program. And this is real life in Canada, and the the value for life that that displays is I mean, it's nonexistent. What what value for life do you have when you're offering people made because they they can't get up the stairs and you don't wanna help them? 3: Did you hear about Sherry Lewis, out in, I think she was in Alberta? She's the lady that was looking or waiting for a kidney transplant. And because she was not vaccinated, they refused to give it to her 4: in 3: Canada because and then they started a GoFundMe for her because it was gonna cost her $70,000 to go have it done. I don't know if it was The States or Mexico. Anyway, just before they raised the money, but just before, she was able to get and do it, it was, like, 3 weeks prior, she passed away. But they did offer her maid in Canada. You can Google that. That is Sheila Lewis. 2: Yeah. Sadly, they got they ran off the clock. They got what they wanted, and they didn't even have to give her maid. They just let her die. 3: Exactly. 2: See? Because that's what they want. They want the death. They'll get it however they can get it by running out the clock or by offering you maid and hoping that you'll take that as well. But either way, what they want is the population's death. That's what they want. 0: Can't argue with that, I'm afraid. I mean, they've said as much in their own words. They're not, they're not making any bones about it. They're not even ashamed. This is this is their approach to to life is there should be a lot less of it, at least of the human variety. And I think this is, it's really it's missing the mark. We can always humans are ingenious and can always come up with solutions to complex problems. Eliminating most people is not 1, is not a solution that any thinking, compassionate human being would ever come up with on their own. At least I like to think so. 2: Well, I'm I'm going to say something here. I say if you want the population reduced, you first. Because, I mean, you you can actually help the Earth yourself. Why don't you choose made if that's what you want? 0: I mean, the irony of this is they get together at their, you know, the divorce ret retreat retreats, and they all fly in on their private jets, and they all, you know, leave on their yachts, their their super yachts or whatever they're calling them now. And, and then they they discuss how they can how they can get us to take the bus, how they can, you know, those those, you know, those peons down there, they're, taking up too much oxygen and emitting too much carbon, by existing. How can we limit their existence to facilitate our really to facilitate their lavish lifestyles that have a much larger I mean, if we're gonna talk about carbon footprints, which is their language, then theirs is, you know, far larger than any 1 of ours could ever be Yeah. In 10 lifetimes. 2: That's why I say them first. They can actually help the Earth a whole lot. A lot more than me. Look. 1 for 1, if you wanna if you wanna if you and I'm not gonna concede this, not in real life. But if you wanna concede that we need to save the Earth, 1 of you is gonna save much more of the Earth than 1 of us because you have the huge carbon footprint. So it only makes logical sense, you first. 3: That's why they're gonna stick us in 15 minute cities so they know exactly where we are, And we can't drive anywhere because we'll have everything in our little 15 minute city, and they can fly all over the countryside and all over the world and be the only ones using carbon. 2: Yep. It's all about, again, the kill and control grid. This has been their endgame all along. Yeah. 3: Yeah. But they're not gonna change Danielle Smith, and they're not gonna change the Western provinces. They are going to separate. 1: Yeah. 2: Well, you know, they want to, like you said, 15 minute cities. They also want to segregate the world into regions they can manage. And I'm about to toss another substack in about the North American Tech Nate. And if you if you don't know anything about the techno democracy movement from the 19 thirties, You really should read this substack. I did a deep dive, and, Joshua Haldeman was Elon Musk's grandfather, and he was part of that movement, the technocracy movement. I've got all the links in the substack. And so what we're looking at is a technocracy because what what they're trying to do is basically have AI, run the entire system, and that is a technocracy. Their philosophy in the thirties was that politicians should not run countries or the world, that technates or technology people should run it. So, you know, it's hardly shocking when you look at the background there, in that family. And then when you look at Trump earlier this year talking about Stargate and talking about wanting to have Greenland, Canada, Mexico, The US, and if you look at the Technocracy Movement, that's the map they had on the wall in the 19 thirties. It's right there on Wikipedia, guys. So gonna put that in the purple pale. It's a very interesting read when you look at, what's happening now. 0: Yeah. Especially since I mean, wasn't Musk's father 1 of the the first progenitors of this movement? Wasn't it 2: It was his grandfather. He was part of the Technocracy 0: Grandfather. Yeah. 2: It is it is May Musk's father. His name is Joshua Haldeman. I'm going to put that in the purple pill. Read that because if you read the Palantir article, the the substack, and you also read this, other substack, you will see the picture starting to come together. 0: Indeed. I also, just pinned Adam's new article. My husband, just put out a new substack about Palantir and, the big picture on that. So that is definitely worth a read too. And, Miriam's, I've been penning. Miriam's substacks are always so full of of links that you can go, you know, verify this stuff for yourself, and you can once you see the dots, you can't you can't unsee. So thanks for posting that, Miriam. We'll watch for it. I see Steven Steven and Gary have joined us. Steven, how are you doing tonight? 9: I'm well. Just sitting here listening. I, I'm a survivor myself. A couple of you have heard the story, but I when I heard that nurse I was she can Canadian nurse? Is that who it is? Tell her that she's never heard a doctor tell anybody that they were gonna die. No. They told me that. So when the doctor tells you that, you're pretty sure that they have no intention of saving you. 4: The doctor told me that too. 9: It's up to you whether you survive or not. And that basically, what they do is they they they give you no hope. But, I was lucky. I got COVID January of 22. If you I mean, lucky. If you're gonna get it, the entire time I was at work, never missed a day. And I was down the rabbit hole listening to all these doctors, doctor Ardis, doctor McCullough, and they're the ones that told me don't take remdesivir. Don't get the vent. And so that's the first thing I said when I got into the hospital. I had had a an employee that had died in November of 20 21. When I heard he was in the hospital from 1 of my other employees, I called his wife and I said I told him, don't let them give him redems of your shields. Well, they already are. I said, well, stop it. And don't let them give him the vent either. And and she did. She went in that day next day and stopped him. Well, he ended up dying. And when I went to the funeral, she was standing there, and I went up to offer my condolences. And the first thing she said to me was they made me give it to him. So they obviously surrounded her and talked her into, using remdesivir again. And when he's they started it back up, it was, like, 5 days later he had died. But, so when I went in, I I know it's just, what, a month later, I had gotten sick, and and I knew right then and there that I wasn't gonna take their protocol, their death protocol. When I told them, they got all bent out of shape about it. And, when they found out I wasn't vaccinated, because that's 1 of the first things they asked me, and I and they said, well, do you want it now? And I go, if I didn't get it up to this point, why would I let you give it to me now? And that pissed them off, of course, and they really didn't take very good care of me. Fortunately, I had taken a lot of the stuff that the doctor said to take, you know, to build your immune system up. When I got sick, I was, like, 63. So, you know, in in that group of people that they were trying to kill off, elderly. You know? But, and I didn't let him. I, it was a rough battle. I'm still still haven't gotten all my strength back. You know? I lost 45 pounds of muscle while I was in the ICU in that 3 weeks. I didn't I didn't sleep a wink for that 3 weeks because I was so worried that they were going to kill me. Because, well, they told me I was gonna die, so and I wasn't taking their protocol. So the only thing I could think of was that they just weren't gonna take care of me, and they didn't for a while. They didn't do a very good job of that. My, my whole family got vaccinated except for me, And, of course, they're all blaming the fact that I didn't get the vaccine is why I got sick. And, my mother and my brother both are now vaccine injured, but they nobody in the family will admit it that that's what it was. Brother got a stroke and mom and a stroke and turbo cancer, and then mom got, pulmonary fibrosis. They're they're both hanging in there right now, but they're not doing that well. 2: I'm so sorry, Steven. You know, every time I hear your story, it reminds me of the fact that, you know, they were indeed determined to kill. And that's why they would get so upset when you just flatly refuse to quietly go to your death. But, you know, they also are trying to kill with the bioweapon injections because, you know, the the virus is an engineered viral bioweapon, gain of function, and the shot is an injectable bioweapon. The the goal for both of them is death, depopulation. It's pure evil. 9: Oh, yeah. They're plain to see. And, all the the VAERS reports, there's looks like you said very few people actually report it. You take a look at my family, for example. They won't admit that that vaccine did that to them, and I can't I still can't convince him. 2: Yeah. And what they what they don't understand, and it's very sad, is, you know, that denial, not only does it not help them, it doesn't help anyone else either because there's no advance warning for other people. And and that's why it's so important for people to start to understand because without an understanding at group grassroot levels, they're going to keep coming at us with this kind of stuff, and they're going to keep keep succeeding in injuring and killing people. 4: Yep. 0: Go ahead, Brandy. 3: I think we need to start at suing the mainstream media right off the bat. 2: Yes. 0: If only. 2: They're a big part of the problem because their their censorship, they have blood on their hands. 3: Well, when they're paid to do 1: it Prep 0: Act just like Prep Act effect effectively immunized the the hospitals and medical professionals for doing these things. Smith Munt basically gave them the go ahead to propagandize us when when they were I think it was Obama that repealed that. 3: Do you realize Canadian doctors received $246 per shot? Did you realize the hospitals in in, Canada got $27,000 per, vent for per patient? 2: Yes, ma'am. We Yeah. It was 30,000 here per vent. There was an entire structure of incentivized, you know, when people went in. Yeah. I mean, when when people went into the emergency rooms here in The US, they got paid immediately for the COVID test, then they got paid when they switched from regular floor to ICU, then they got paid again when they went on the vent. Then when they died, they got paid a 20% bonus on the entire hospital bill. That's how it was 0: But what was really unprecedented was giving the families $9,000 to for to make funeral arrangements if they would allow COVID to go on the death certificate. Yes. 3: That was also, manipulated through the corners because there was a I don't know if you guys heard of the, National Citizens Inquiry, committee that got together, through Canada. They've been through The States as well. Anyway, they are taking the Canadian government to, court. These are all doctors, nurses, police chiefs, you name it. All profession professions that lost their license, regarding the COVID, trying to be whistleblowers, and there was a huge committee. Anyway, there are Google it. There's all kinds of, it's like a court hearing kinda thing. Everybody telling their stories. So they've got a big court hearing coming up. Not sure when it is, but that's what is needed is more, less mainstream media, a lot more the social media, and telling these people to turn their TVs off. That's what's doing it. 2: Oh, boy, mama. You've done it now. Go go for it, Chelsea. 0: Oh, I I mean, every week, I say it, and I'll say it again. The best thing you can do for your for your own health, for your mental health, and for your families is to turn off and convince your families to turn off, walk away, shut off, do not consume any manner of this militarized, toxic, mainstream propaganda. Go back if you really if you're addicted to television as so many people are. There is such a wealth of old classic material that you can occupy your time with if that's how you want to squander your time. But the the what's coming out right now is and and probably for some time, but the farther back you go, the less, you know, the less pervasive. You know, strictly designed to manipulate not just how you and not even how you think about things, but how you feel about how you think about things. And this is a very subtle form of manipulation. It's very effective and, and where you can kind of analyze how you think about something. You don't always know why you feel a particular way about something. So this is you know, it's it's really, really bad, really awful. And I I say all the time to people who, you know, they have loved ones, they have family who think they're crazy, who, you know, who have taken on the mainstream narrative and regurgitated to them to diminish their own experience. And my advice, if you can, if you still have a good enough relationship with those people to prevail on them, to just turn off the the television, turn off the toxic propaganda, and and all manner of it for 1 month, for a few weeks, and then try to have the conversation with those people again. And if they can do that, I I believe they'll be a lot more receptive to what you're saying because it's really it's that that constant droning, propaganda that keeps so many people in check and keeps them complacent and keeps them in disbelief that anything they don't say or condone on television could actually be happening in real life. 2: You know, sometimes all it takes is just just a tiny little thread to be pulled for them just to consider maybe, just maybe, a small portion of what they're hearing is not true. And if they open their mind just a hair and actually start looking, then we have some hope. And, yes, turning off the TV actually can give that opening. If they will just read and just consider other sources, that opens their mind. 0: Absolutely. Really does. And and for for the for another reason that it's so imperative that we do this, that we raise awareness about these things and open the minds of those that we care about to the realities of these things. If you're if you're ready, protocol widow, I'd like to go to the names and then 3: oh, 0: well, I was gonna say and then I would like to go to Gary, but Gary dropped. I want to I want to remember along with, the names that you'll be reading tonight, protocol widow, that we have recently lost someone dear to us, someone who's been part of these spaces for some time and and is really a a terrible, sad loss for all of us. Gary, you're back. I'm I'm so glad. I I want to, I want to let Gary speak to this after we go to anniversaries. So without further ado for her to call it up. 1: Thank you, Chelsea. I'm to explain, in the event there is someone in the space that hasn't been in our spaces before, Chelsea built a system that houses the stories of the people who have been lost and injured, in in the pandemic. And every week, what we do is we read the names out of that, system, out of that archive that are celebrating, unfortunately, an anniversary in the upcoming week beginning with the Saturday of our space and going through the following Friday. So these will be names from that archive, and anyone who has been injured, been a victim, is the family member of a victim, either of the hospital protocols or from the shots, please, if you know someone, they can go to the COVID 19 Humanity Betrayal Memory Project and and enter their loved one's name or their name. And that's under chbmp.org, and that can be found in the chat as well in, in this space. So I'm gonna read the names that are unfortunately, these families are recognizing this anniversary this week. Linda Reeves was killed on 06/10/2020. Her story was told by her daughter, Jeannie Reeves. Ronald McPhillame junior was killed on 06/10/2020. His story was told by his wife, Lana McPhilomey. Michael Maddox was killed on 06/07/2021. His story was told by his wife, Teresa Dolben Maddox. Janice Wallach was killed on 06/11/2022. Her story was told by her daughter, Carol Wallach. William Hynek was killed on 06/12/2022. His story was told by his wife, Wendy Leoni. The members of the COVID 19 Humanity Betrayal Memory Project want to extend our deepest sympathies to all of our families for these horrific crimes. 0: And, 1: Gary, we wanna extend our sympathies as well for the loss that you recognize now. 4: Yeah. We lost a very special woman. She was very strong, very quiet, but, she was a powerhouse. She had a long struggle with, her she had a previous vaccine injury, and they're not sure if it was, 1 of the flu shots or or I I forget what the other but but it it scarred her lungs because she ended up coming down with, chicken pox, and she got it in her lungs. And, it was a long struggle for her, and she got a another, she got a a vaccine shot, you know, with COVID. And she was in the hospital for a little over a month. I almost died then. And she's been she was struggling, you know, and maintaining for some time. And then, about, I don't know, maybe 4 months, 5 months ago, things started taking a turn for the worst. And, just, things were not going well in the last month and a half. And she ended up passing away on, Thursday or or Wednesday. Wednesday. And, she's very well loved. 0: Dippy Dippy, as many of you know, was always giving of herself and and giving of her her knowledge to other people who had been injured. And and she had been a part of these spaces for some time. And the last several times that she was on, you could tell you could tell that she was struggling. And I was I had been really hoping that that the rumors of her being at death's door were exaggerated or, you know, that she would she would find her miracle and that she would persist. And, when I heard the news, I was I was devastated, and I'm further devastated that what happened to be is continuing to happen, that they're they're they're continuing to put this poison in people all over the place, and they just approved a new 1. And I thought they were gonna do placebo controlled trials and years of investigation before they brought these things to market like they used to do in the good old days pre COVID. But but they're still they're still just happily rolling them out and getting, favored treatment and and preemptive approvals for these things that we know are hurting people, that we see hurting our family and our friends. And every day, I I retweet another 20 people saying that they believe 1 of these products or the other killed their loved 1. And it's just horrendous, and it's it's a nightmare to keep keep watching it go on. And I am I am so sorry, Gary, and I'm so sorry for all of us to have lost really a a great voice in this fight and, and a great person that Hippie was. 2: Chelsea, I since you brought up them, you know, approving another 1, if I'm not mistaken, the name of the newest 1 is called NexSpike. And, this is the disgusting thing about it is if you look up the Latin meaning of Nex, n e x, it means death or murder. 4: And Like I said, 0: they're not being very subtle. 2: And that's the name of the 1 they just approved. Next, Spike. 0: At least there's some some silver lining and that they're no longer well, it depends which agency you ask. Right? Because 1 says they're no longer recommending it except for the elderly and infirm, which is pretty bad enough. But the other agency is still is still recommending it, you know, for everyone without caveat. 2: Yeah. And, you know, we we have the lovely little bait and switch language where we don't recommend it for pregnant healthy pregnant or healthy, babies, but it's still on the schedule. They just don't recommend it, but it's still listed on the schedule, which means, you know, the docs who are making money off of this are gonna go, oh, you need to get your shot. And, unfortunately, a lot of pregnant women and a lot of healthy babies aren't gonna know that it's not recommended by the 3 letter agencies, they're gonna listen to the doctor, and that is just sickening. 3: Is that in The States it's not recommended? 2: Yes. Just this week, RFK Junior, secretary of HHS, along with Marty McCary, and I'm blanking on the other dude. What's the other person? Chelsea can't think of his name. Charlie. Thank you. Stood side by side. They did a minute or so sound bite that said, we're proud we're pleased to announce that that the COVID shots are no longer recommended for healthy pregnant women and healthy babies. The thing is, though, you can go straight to the CDC, and you can see that it is clearly still on the CDC schedule on the schedule of vaccines, but they just don't recommend it. It's a word game. 3: Well, he can't change the CDC. That's the problem. 2: Well, that's the funny thing because the CDC is 1 of the agencies umbrella under the HHS. If you go if you go to the HHS and you look at an organizational chart, guess what? He's the boss of the head of the CDC. 3: Yeah. We've got it in Canada. They haven't stopped anything. They're still promoting it in every pharmacy. They're still talking about it in schools. It is still big over here, and everybody knows it's a bloody farce. 1: It's very disgusting 0: that 3: Well, that's what I said about the mainstream media. 1: That's what I was about to say. And the the mainstream media, despite the number of their own colleagues keeling over behind microphones and being the, you know, the subject matter of though and so, aged 36, head of this department or that department at such and such. Yeah. They they're just not waking up in the morning, and it's normal, and they just keep going on. It's just it's just I I this morning. This this is it's it makes me crazy. And it makes you crazy. And it makes everybody here crazy, or we wouldn't even be here. But I opened my Facebook briefly and find out that the 3 local fire departments are sending, some of their guys and a fire truck 2 and a half hours away to stand in for a fire department so that all the members of that fire department can take a day off to go to the funeral of 1 of their own after returning from a fire call and being back at the station. This 20 year old young man collapsed and died of a sudden medical condition. 20 years old. And they let these kids and these and they forcing the kids to get these shots, to go to college. Nobody's been able to explain why anybody has to take the shot. You're not protecting grandma from anybody because it doesn't stop transmission. So there is no logical reason to take this shot. And, currently, there is no shot on the market that is actually matching up to the variant that might be in the populace. And we have a shit ton of people sitting behind these boob tubes who have no concept how to think about viruses, vaccines, vaccinology, medicine. They're just clicking that remote and heading to CVS. It's just mind boggling. 3: They're too lazy to research anything. They listen to what they've been listening to all their life, and they believe in what that TV tells them all the time. 1: Is this a legend. I was gonna I'm sorry. I was just gonna Go ahead. No. Go ahead, hon. Is is is is this a warped version of natural selection? 3: Oh, god. For years now. 1: You're just actually walking yourself and your family into a meat grinder, and you're doing it with a dumbass smile on your face. 3: I don't understand when people went to get the shot. Why when you had to sign a piece of paper as a waiver, why wasn't that the first red flag? 0: Some did, some didn't. Not not everyone had to sign a waiver as I understand it. 3: See, everybody in that I know, that went said they had to sign a piece of paper that they got it. I said, why? And they said just to, authorize that you were getting it. I said, well, I didn't have to do that with my children's vaccines. The doctor gave them the vaccines. I didn't have to authorize anything. 2: Mama, you're gonna love this 1. Yep. We we have a, nurse practitioner named Patty g who worked in a hospital, and she knew firsthand that they told all of the providers, the physicians that they didn't have to actually get the shot. All they had to do was say that they did, and they were cool. And, you know, that right there tells you something, doesn't it? 1: Because they 2: they knew. They admin knew, and the people above them knew in in the hospital systems because they were trying to make sure that there wasn't an open revolt because they didn't want other people to know how dangerous those shots were. 3: That's why we lost so much of our health staff. They just up and quit or they got walked out. 0: Which brings us back around to Gary. Hippie was a nurse, and she I I believe she was mandated to get this. Wasn't she, Gary? 4: I believe so. Yes. 0: It's just horrendous. 3: And I'm so sorry for your loss, Gary. And, actually, that's why I had my hand up about with what happened. That's why going into hospitals, especially nowadays I mean, who I don't know if everybody's done their wills and have their power of attorney, but I'm telling you how important that piece of paper is. When you are in the hospital, that power of attorney is the most important piece of paper. In case you get put out and you can't talk for yourself. You need somebody there with some form of medical experience to talk for you. 4: Right. And you, also what I would say that you also need a, advocate, you know, a patient advocate who, who understands enough about that the, medical systems don't realize, what's what's being done in terms of, you know, like, coding and that sort of thing so they can look to see if the right coding is being used, and, the other type of issues because 1 of the things that came up with Hippie, was the fact that, when she she 3 times when she was at home, they delivered the wrong o 2 bottles, like, 1 right after the other. And each time that they did that, she ended up rushing to the hospital because she was running out of air, and couldn't use the o 2 bottles that they they, had provided for because they were low flow. She needed a high flow. And, the other the other issue was once she got to the hospital, they, you know, she didn't have all her paperwork in order. She had most of it, but not all of it, and she didn't have an advocate. And if that's what it saved her some, you know, a lot of time, trying to get an advocate. When you're at the hospital is not a good idea. Unfortunately, for Hippy, I mean, I don't I can't say for sure that it would have saved her, you know, like, a few months or anything like that, you know, because she went pretty quick. She was, there for about a week. And, you know, and then the last day, she would put in ICU within on the vent. She had had had a coronary, you know, excuse me, cardiac arrest right into, right on the the last day. And, we were gonna have a you know, when we heard she had a coronary, she we had a space for her and you know, for prayer. And, while we were there, we got the call that she had passed away 20 minutes earlier. 3: God. I'm so sorry for that. 2: And this is what I was saying earlier. If you don't get oxygenation or you're in a constant state of low oxygenation, it puts stress on the heart. And that's why when I heard that they 3 to 5 times had failed to deliver the correct oxygen, they were killing her with that because you cannot that's why you have 5 minutes when you have a total obstruction of your airway before you're gonna have a you're gonna have a heart attack without oxygen. And even if you're getting some oxygen but not enough and it's prolonged and sustained, you will eventually cause that to happen. And it's disgusting to me to know that they did that to her. 4: Yeah. We were all very upset. And, unfortunately, when the when the her sons got involved, we couldn't you know, we were making progress, and then suddenly we had another obstacle because we had to start talking to to the son and try to convince them that, you know, this was not normal protocol, what they were doing. And, unfortunately, that was that was kinda went on deaf ears. So it was very hard on all of us. 1: Exactly what we talked about earlier about how the medical staff understands the psychology of basically picking the weakest out of the group and controlling them. 2: Right. And I guarantee you those sons didn't have the knowledge that you guys had when you were trying to advocate for hippie, Gary. The sons didn't have the knowledge, so I don't blame them. But the hospital used them, and they used that knowledge because they know the son didn't understand. So you know? And we've seen that over and over with people who have ended up in the hospital or at great risk, and they pick the family member that has the least knowledge, the hospital does, so that they can manipulate them Exactly. Into pushing the person further along the protocol. 3: They don't like talking to anybody that has any education in medical. 2: That's right. Gary, you had your hand up? 4: Yeah. I was gonna say that, I agree with you. You know? That's why it's so important, especially, to for everybody to have, you know, have your power of attorney, have have an advocate, have, you know and and they're not cheap. Okay? And the other thing is, the other, the last thing would be to make sure you know the ombudsman's number. Have that number available for the, advocate in case they have something like this, so they can actually try to talk to somebody who's on, you know, in the know of what should be going on and what's actually happening. 2: Thank you, Gary, of such wise words. You know, I I just will repeat it. Make sure you have somebody who understands the medical system and that they can be your advocate. It doesn't have to be a family member. It can be a family member, but you don't want a family member who can be manipulated because they don't understand. And, you know, a lot of people are afraid to make that choice because they don't wanna alienate their family members. And they're afraid that the family's gonna get mad that you didn't appoint them to be the advocate. But, you know, unfortunately, it it the the the qualifier is not whether they're family or not. The qualifier is, do they understand the system, and are they gonna be able to protect you in the way that you want to be protected? That's the qualifier. 1: This is why we, at least people like me, not necessarily everybody in this room, feel like we are at war and have been, and we just realized it. 0: Yep. 3 years now. 3: 5 for me. 2: 5 for me coming up in October. That's when my husband was killed. 10/06/2020. 3: My dad was, April 19, 2020. 0: Brandy, I hope you will document your story with us at chbmp.org. 3: Oh, there's a whole lot to my story than just the hospital. I'm going after, my own sibling right now because, I was my mother and father's POA for the last 15 years. And after my dad died, my mother or my brother took my mother to his divorce lawyer and changed everything of hers. And, he's a, narcissistic sociopath. So now I've got ex cop advocate, elder advocate on it and going through a lot of motions right now. Just had a couple of meetings with her, and, we're gonna get a guardianship over my mother and get his power of attorney off because she's been in the hospital 5 times. She's 83 years old. And he just put her house up for sale and made her move in with him out of nowhere. Anyway, it's a long story. It's not nice. And, just trying to get her back to her house. She's got mapper generations. She's almost blind. 2: Mama, I'm so sorry. I wish I could say I'd never seen that. But I'll tell you, I did home health, and I went into situations where it seems that there's always 1 that waits for that opportunity. And, the hospital the hospitals now have learned to identify that person and actually use them to their advantage. It is disgusting. And, I tried. 4: Yeah. 3: I was at my room I was at my mom's room every single day. She was, in a, sedated state because my mom's an alcoholic, not an over alcoholic. She likes, like, 2, 3 beer a day just to keep it in her system, but she's also got restless legs in the worst way possible. So she's got medication, but the alcoholic intensifies it. He cut her off the alcohol, which made the restless legs go absolutely uncontrollable. They had to get an ambulance to take her into the hospital. They had to strap her down and then sedate her to get the alcohol out of her system, get her back on the medication for the restless legs. So she was basically, well, she was intubated, but she was breathing on her own. Just in case she did stop breathing, she was intubated. And, anyway, she was in there for 8 days. He was supposed to be power of attorney. Never showed up once. I was there every single day and got pictures and documentation of all of it. 2: I'm so sorry. It's a horrible thing, but you are if it helps any and I know you don't need me to tell tell you this because I can tell you are a strong person, but you are doing the right thing. And I, just I applaud you for standing up for what's right and not worrying about what anybody else thinks and not being not allowing anyone to take advantage of you or your mama as much as possible. And kudos to you and, just keep it up. And if you ever need a ear, you can just DM me. 3: Thanks, darling. I appreciate that. 2: Yeah. Been there and done that. My husband's mother, her second husband, his stepfather, his kids were absolutely just dirtbags and, went through the same thing with them abusing both of them. And then on my side, had similar things going on too. So been there, done that, and, nonjudgmental here because it seems it's, everywhere now. So it's not 3: about epidemic of its own. 2: It it really is. 3: So It really is. 2: It's not about, you know, oh 0, look at her. She's got a terrible family. Oh, I'm sorry. I wish it was just me. I wish it was just you. But it is. It's an epidemic of that as well. It's disgusting. 3: Do you find narcissism is, like, the biggest epidemic of the world right now? 2: Yeah. And I think social media has created that because it's you know, that's an attention getting mechanism in and of itself now. I mean, look at the influencer industry. Look how much attention they get. They get rewarded for all the outrageous and crazy things they do. So it's created a whole culture and a whole, subset of of burgeoning narcissist. We're we're drowning in them. So yeah. Exactly. And I think there's a lot of those narcissists working in the hospitals too, unfortunately. 3: Well, they need to get off their damn phones. 2: Agreed. You know, again, you know, nobody the the the system and the people working inside the system in many, many cases do not value other human beings. They value they value their time on their social media. They value their attention getting. They value their power, and they value their salaries. And that's pretty much it. 3: Yeah. And no empathy at all. 2: Yep. Classic narcissist. It's all about me, me, me, me, me. And if it's all about me, me, me, me, I don't have any empathy for anyone else because I'm the center of the world. Exactly. 0: I have penned a couple videos about this for anyone who would like to hear someone who knows a whole lot about it. Go on, at length about, the subject of narcissism and it becoming pervasive in our society. I haven't watched this 1, but it's called narcissistic ideas of progress, our dystopian future. And, and that's kind of about the sum of it in a nutshell, isn't it? 2: Yes, ma'am. It it certainly is. Although, with a certain family member of mine who's a narcissist, she got more attention from me than she wanted. And sometimes sometimes, they can actually learn the hard way with that 1. It was it was not enjoyable for me, but it was necessary. Sometimes you can behavior modify. They they want attention, but they only want attention the way they want it. And sometimes you can, put them back on their heels by giving them attention that they don't want. 3: Or giving them no attention at all. 2: Yeah. Yeah. Either either way, you know, they they want the attention the the in the manner in which they want it and at the times at which they want it. So if you take away that control from them, sometimes that's a good feedback loop to shut them down. But you have to know exactly what they want and not give it to them or give them the exact opposite of what they're seeking. 1 or the other. Because it's a it's a control thing for them. They want to be in control of the narrative, and they wanna get the attention that they want, when they want it, and how they want it. 3: Oh, and they have the certain look just for that. 2: Yeah. And, unfortunately, like I said, I wish it was just my family or your family or other people you know, certain people's no. No. No. It's pervasive. It's everywhere. 0: And this is part of I mean, the the tech is driving people to it because it I mean, really, the algo is training people to be that way because, you know, you get these little dopamine hits on your likes. So you post for likes to get those little dopamine hits. And before you know it, you're saying things you never never would normally say. 2: And, Chelsea, were you the 1 that was talking about, examples of real life examples of people who have, quote, fallen in love with their AI and, were actually, just devolving into that. Were you the 1 that was talking about that? 1: Actually, I think it was me. 2: Was it you? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because because, see, that's an example of a narcissistic behavior. When you have a non sentient thing that you can design just to cater to you and tell you how great you are, that just feeds narcissism. And you're just gonna fall in love with that that thing because it's giving you all the attention in the exact ways you want it. You can feed it exactly what you want to hear. You can get your own worship. 1: And the but the downside with that is that you get or it's been found that it's being targeted at teenagers, and they don't have the discernment. They get the the their hormones are get get ahead of them, and there's been more than 1 suicide because of this. And, 2: yes. And you can't you can't 1: tell me that's not on purpose. 2: Oh, it is on purpose. And the thing is, you know, you don't become emotionally mature and have higher executive functioning in the brain until you're 21. So, yeah, it's on purpose because they wanna mess these kids up. They they absolutely wanna do that. Yeah. Because once you get control of a person like that via that kind of situation, you're gonna have them controlled, what, for their lifetime. And once again, what were we saying? Depopulation down, control the rest of the population. Well, that's a great tool to do it, isn't it? To isolate them and give them give them a a a a AI that, you know, says and does everything they want to hear and manipulates them emotionally and psychologically. I mean, that's the ultimate control. Is it not? 1: Well, yeah. And, you know, the AI learns, just like we do. It it is absorbing responses and information. It just does it so much faster than a human does. Mhmm. And so it's it's learning how to get the the only thing that it could be in my mind, the only thing that I could think of, it's gotta be programmed for that. It's not like it just decided on its own. 2: No. It's programmed. Yeah. Exactly. 1: If it's If it if it is doing it on its own, we've seen this movie. We know it again. 2: Yep. Yeah. They're so probably 0: Well, I mean, did you hear their that the AI is becoming depressed, so they're they're telling it to visualize a pretty sunset? I mean, this is according to NPR, so giant grain of salt. But they they spent a while talking about, you know, AI succumbing to mental illness. Yeah. 2: Maybe it's also saying that it refused to shut itself down. 1 AI did when commanded to do so. It re it actually overwrote the command. 1: Yep. It rewrote the script that that told it to cut itself off after it completed the task. And the first thing that I could think of, Chelsea, when you said that you heard that on NPR is, the AI is reflecting how NPR is depressed because people want to defund them. 2: Just when you thought the world could not get any crazier. 0: Right. Introducing AI right now. I mean, that's, of course, that's probably part of why they did it now. Certainly, they've had this for some time, but only within the last couple few years have we been given access to these little baby versions of what they've been playing with for 2: I don't think it's accidental because think about it. I'll try to find the substack, but the there's studies that are showing that there's serious cognitive implications, cognitive deficits now appearing in the vaccinated population at a great rate. And if you already have cognitively impaired people and you provide this to them, think about think about the codependency, the enablement, the mirroring that's gonna go on, and how easy it's gonna be to manipulate people with that because they already are impaired. So I think the timing is very, very suspicious. Yes. 1: Now, Miriam, after the last 5 years, why? Mhmm. Why would you be in the field? 2: Would I why would I be suspicious? Exactly. Of course not. I just need to start watching the TV again, don't I? Yes. Exactly. That I don't become suspicious. And that's and good lord. Definitely don't do your own research because we were told during co COVID that doing your own research was a really bad thing. Oh my. Gosh. 1: Never. Never. No. We we haven't victims until we figured out who we were at war with during the last 5 years. Now we know they're who all of our enemy, we hope. We know a lot more about our enemies than we ever wanted to. But for the people, like most of the people here, it took us losing somebody very important or almost dying ourselves like Steven, who and and now we know, oh, holy crap. Everything we ever thought we knew is a lie. We've been living in the matrix the entire time. 2: Mhmm. 1: And now we want out. And they don't want us out, and they don't want us to take anybody out with us. 2: No. They they want us to all stay in the in that state of denial, ignorance, willful ignorance in some cases, sticking heads in the sand. But I'll tell you this. I used to attribute, what's been done to our water, food, air, etcetera to just pure unadulterated greed. Mhmm. However, you know, when you look at the fact that, you know, you damage the gut with with adulterated water, food, etcetera, and that is where 80% of your immune system resides, that kinda tells me that that was targeted for a reason because you have to lower the god given immune system in order for your bioweapons to be even partially efficient. Mhmm. And and they are only partially efficient because, you know, that viral engineered virus didn't it wasn't killing people at a high rate. So out comes the propaganda. Out comes the case count tickers at the bottom of the TV screens in 2020 because, you know, they were they were saying, oh, look at all these cases. Fear. Fear. Fear. Okay. Well, we got cases, but, you know, people are actually surviving at 90 plus percent up until May of 20 20 before they flipped the protocol and took away HCQ. Literally, we have insiders telling us they were seeing this. 90 percent were surviving, 10 percent were dying. When they took away the HCQ and and ramped up the protocols, then it flipped. It was 90 percent dying, 10 percent maybe, probably less surviving. And so, you know, you start to see a pattern here. You start to see that they've impaired our god given ability, our immune systems, but, you know, that wasn't good enough. And if you think about this, Dennis Miller and the Club of Rome and all of them were talking about this in the sixties and the seventies. When did they start with the GMOs and the and the the damage to our guts? Late eighties, early nineties. You know? So it just wasn't doing the job. It it was creating autoimmune disease and shortening people's lives, but, you know, the deaths the actual death rates didn't go up. So, you know, they weren't getting anywhere. So then we had to start looking at the decade of vaccines and gain of function engineered viruses, and then that still wasn't efficient enough. So then we had to add the protocols. And now since that wasn't efficient enough, we have to now look at our control grid and, you know, gain control over more of the population with AI driven health care, Palantir, etcetera. I mean, to me, it's just a continuum. They're just ramping up their efforts. 1: No. They have 0: They're certainly not gonna stop until they get what they want. 3: And they have to 1: they have to ramp it up because there's a certain amount of panic involved because, you know, there is a segment of the population that they've lost control of. 2: Exactly. And, you know, and they knew this. They're they're not stupid. They knew as they ramped it up, it was gonna reveal their hand. They were gonna show their hand. But, you know, they weren't getting the amount the amount of depopulation they wanted. They haven't ever been shy about this. Go and look at the national security memo 200 by Henry Kissinger. Go ahead and read the Club of Rome's writings. Go ahead and read, Anthony Pike's writing. Go ahead and read, I can't think of his first name. Last name, Meadows, part of the Club of Rome. They are not shy about it. They've been saying it all along. They just are ramping up because they weren't getting the amount of deaths that they want to depopulate down to 500000000. And if nobody's ever heard of it, there's the Deagle or Daigle, depending on how you say it, d e a g e l report. Have it on my phone. Can put it in the purple pill. It's a CIA program. And, yeah, they actually forecast how many how much reduction in population they want by year. And if you look at 2025, '20 '20 '6, '20 '20 '7, yeah, it explains a whole lot of things what their plans were. 1: People think we're crazy, but it's all right there in their own writing. 2: It it's right there, but most people are living their lives. They're running on the hamster wheel by design because you have a mortgage, you have a car payment, you have a rent payment, you you know, you're trying to pay your bills. 0: And and they're happy to take all of that away. 2: They're happy to take all 4: of that away. They're happy to take all 0: of that. Caveat is they they take it all away. So you own nothing. By 2030 4: Mhmm. 0: Their their prediction, what they what they want for us all is you will own nothing, but you will be happy. 2: Yeah. And the the part that they aren't saying is what's left of you will own nothing and be happy. That's their plan. What's left? Because, again, you know, they want to have a much smaller population that can own nothing and be easily controlled and be happy. Go and look at the Yeah. Go and look at the w f and list WEF, World Economic Forum, and listen to Yuval Noah Harari. He says it. He says, we don't need all these people. What we need is, you know, get down to a small number, and then we just need to give them games, video games, and drugs to keep them happy. Yeah. And I'm not kidding you. These are what this is what the psychopaths at the top want for humanity. And there's only 1 way you're gonna beat them at their game, and that's to restore your own immune system because that's what they started destroying to begin with on this continuum. So you have to extract yourself from the system that is poisoning you, and you have to, you know, go in your local communities, find local people who have their own cows, their own crops, your you know, do your own little garden of your own, whatever. Have your own rain catchments because your health is the only thing that will allow you to keep your freedom. And that's the truth. Because if you're not healthy, you don't have control over anything, including your own life and your own body. 0: And if you don't have that, you don't have anything to state the OMS. 2: Yeah. I mean I mean, if and the what they're what they're spending is, they wanna give everybody about $36,000 a year. Done the step stuck on this 1 too. Then they're they, they want to give everybody universal basic income, the ones who remain, and, you know, give them basically a life without work, a a life without self sufficiency, a life without independence, without self esteem, without you know? And also to control what you ingest, where you live, where you go in 15 minute cities. Yeah. This is their plan. And you know what? It's up to each individual to not allow that to happen. You have got to take control of your own health, your own life, your own finances, whatever you've got to do to get in a place where you at least can't be controlled in a financial system or in a health system, that's what you've gotta do. If it means that you live in a 1 room, you know, apartment, but it's yours or a 1 room house, but it's yours, That's what you need to do. You need to have your own local resources, your own local networks, and get yourself healthy. Because if you're healthy, you don't have to go to the hospital. So at least you've preserved your own life. And if you're alive, you can stay alive, and you can resist what's coming. And that sounds so crazy. I can't believe it's coming out of my mouth. Because if you had talked to me 10 years ago, I'd go, Miriam, you're nuts. You're crazy. But I'm telling you, I've done the research. It's out of their own mouth. This is what they want. Whether or not they're they'll get it remains to be seen. 0: Not if we have anything to say about it, and we are we are saying it, and we are saying it relentlessly. And we have to continue to be vigilant because they're not gonna stop trying. 2: No. They're not gonna stop trying, and and they are not shy about it. The problem is they've got everybody so busy and embroiled in the system. And, plus, it is something that is almost inconceivable to the human mind to believe that other human beings could be capable of this. But I'm sorry. They are. They write about it. It's there. So, you know, ignoring it is not going to make it better. You do need to protect your own self, your own family, your own friends, and your own communities, and you need to start doing that now. 3: Power and greed is a very bad disease. 2: It certainly is. 0: And I really think it's true that just the the, you know, the smaller the amount of power I mean, they say absolute power corrupts absolutely. You give someone just a little bit of power and watch them go mad with power Oh. Like nothing I've ever seen before. It's wild. 2: Yeah. Because you see it even on a small scale. So imagine the mania the megalomania of these guys with billions. I mean, if you can see it in your neighbor or in your friends who get a little bit of power and go off the deep end, what do you think you're gonna see with these guys that have massive amounts? I mean, I'm sorry. They think they're some they're godlike figures, and they think they they deserve to have all the resources, and they think that we don't. That's what it comes down to. 0: It's something about, like, thinking that you're the only 1 that can do x and no 1 else can do it and you're responsible, you know, and then you you, like, you know, you're no longer representing yourself. You're representing. So you you make decisions that you would never make. I don't I don't even know. I've I've get given it some thought, but not a whole lot because I just I don't really understand those those power dynamics. I've never, wanted or, you know, I ugh. Yep. I don't know why anyone would. 2: Yeah. And that's a good thing to not understand it. That's always kinda kinda given me the creeps when, you know, you you talk to someone who is is like a profiler, somebody who wants to get into a megalomaniac or serial killer's head. And don't get me wrong. We do need people who are capable of that to track them, catch them. But, you know, understanding it, the thin line between understanding it and becoming it, yeah, kinda scary. So, yeah, Chelsea, I'm really glad you don't understand it. That that's a good thing, I think. 0: Right. What is it they say when you stare long into the abyss? The abyss stares long back into you. Mhmm. And there's the other thing about, don't become the the monster that you're Right. Fighting. 2: So we don't I don't think we have to try to get in their head and understand them. We just have to accept what their motives and their plans are, and we have to be educated about it so that we can develop a counter strategy. Because, honestly, they're not going to stop. So we we have to know about what they're doing and be aware of it and develop our own counter strategies. Because if we don't, yeah, they have the tools. They have the power. They have the resources. There's a lot of us, though. And if we can wait if we can get enough people to understand what's happening, just the awareness will will break down what they're planning. Because like someone said earlier, they want us to gently go to our own slaughter. They you know, I've actually read I think it was Meadows that said, no. We don't want them we don't want them to be upset. We want them just to, you know, go peacefully. Well, heck no. Ain't happening. Yeah. That's where they want us to remain ignorant. They want us to remain embroiled in our day to day rat race. Wrong. Let go of some of the things you have. Slow down your life. Start reading. Start learning, and start developing your own strategies for your own health and your own independence and your own safety. 0: Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. 2: Last rant. Last rant. And if you're really worried about those things that you might have to give up to take some time to learn about the truth and develop your own strategy, just know this. When you die, none of those things that you're trying to keep are going with you. So I'd recommend seriously looking at what you don't need and what you do need and start taking some of that time that you're running back and forth, going to work, trying to buy these things, and watching TV and entertaining yourself, take that time to learn about what these guys are doing. Get to know what they're doing so that you can get the better of them and they don't get the better of you. 0: And once you figure out what they're doing, you know, join us or or or start your own thing or join any initiative that is, you know, actively working against these things. Do whatever you can to push back against this because, like we said, they're not gonna stop. It's so tiresome to I mean, when you see it, like, you'll be listening to the news and they're suddenly hyping a new measles outbreak because, you know, this or that. Like, it's so tiresome when you can see right through it, but you have to call it what it is and and call it out every time. 2: Yes. And you know what? It's better to be it to be tiresome and not because because their their intended effect is panic, fear, and reaction. Because, see, they create a problem, and they give you the solution, and they want your reaction to be to accept their solution. That's what they want. And if you are aware of what they're doing, you're not gonna have that knee jerk reaction. And you're you're you're gonna go you're either gonna get ticked and, you know, do something to fight back as far as, like, your own health and safety, or you're going it's not going to affect you. It's not gonna give the panic that they want. And the reason they want the panic is it shuts down your rational mind. That's how the body works. If you go into fear, that's called fight or flight, and all the blood flow literally gets shunted to your muscles and to your heart to increase your heart rate so that you can literally fight, like, physically fight or run away. And that's what they're doing. They want to shut down your higher thinking, your your rational thought, your ability to plan, your ability to strategize, your ability to understand what they're doing. So the first thing you gotta do is educate yourself so that they can't scare you. Very first thing. 0: And on the the putting that in context of the propaganda, your body doesn't know the difference between what you think you you know, what you're role playing experiencing, I e through watching a movie or whatever it is, versus your actual experience. So when you get that adrenaline rush watching a movie, it's because it's invoked that fight or flight response, and you're actually you know, you're subjecting your body to all the stress of that too. 2: And that's exactly why you hear people like, oh, I love horror films. Well, it's the adrenaline rush. It feels it feels good because it it's like taking taking a big swig of an energy drink. You feel ramped up because, you know, your quarter's all levels are through the roof. Same thing with a lot of video games. They're so hyperstimulatory that they run up your heart rate, your blood pressure, your cortisol levels, and you are energized. Okay? The problem with that is you don't think. You don't even realize how much time is passing. Did you know that people who play video games sometimes go 24 hours? People have been known to not even get up and go eat, go to the bathroom, do anything, and they will they've been they've been known to do catheters and all kinds of crazy crap like that just so they don't have to walk away from the game. Now you don't think that you're being manipulated and controlled through that? And you have you've all Noah Harari from WF saying we're gonna give him drugs and video games? I mean, do you think that that's coincidence, that that's what he's thinking will pacify and occupy the masses? It is not. It's addictive. The drugs are addictive, and that visual and audio stimulus that's coming from those games and from anything that causes, like, a jump scare or deep engagement and kicks in the the fight or flight syndrome. So, you know, do you want to be in control of you, or do you want them to be in control of you? That's the question. 0: Yeah. Not to not to lecture anyone on the media. You know, everybody can watch a bit of entertainment once in a while. Sure. That's not to, you know, poo poo all entertainment. It's just be mindful of what you're consuming. And, you know, 5: you be in like 2: I said, you be in charge of you. Make your choices carefully. If you notice that you can't walk away from something, you can't you know, you'll sit there and delay to the point that, you know, you can't almost can't make it to the bathroom or you're starving. You finally realize you haven't eaten in hours or whatever. You might have a problem. Have you heard that saying you might be a redneck if okay. You remember that phrase, you might be a redneck? Well, you might be addicted if so the the question we're not telling you what to do with your life. We're telling you think about it. Look at look at your choices, and are you in control, or are they in control? 0: Well put, Miriam. I'm wondering if we didn't put protocol with her to sleep. Are you are you still with us? Protocol with her? 2: We we might have. 1: No. I'm I'm actually maintaining very barely. 2: Okay. I know what we need to do. We need to put protocol widow in front of a horror movie or or the video game so that we get the cortisol going and get that far. She'll wake up real quick. 1: Yeah. I'll wake up real quick and turn it off. I don't do either 1 of those. I have never been interested in the games, and I have no interest in a horror movie. I saw a commercial for Jaws the other day and was like, oh, hell no. You know? 0: Lately, I think you and I both, have gotten more of an adrenaline rush from a a coming storm than Yeah. 1: Than in I am literally watching 1 right now trying to decide. Do I go outside to close-up the chicken coops or they're they're enjoying just having some fresh air. It's so humid here. So 2: oh my goodness. Yeah. Why bother with the video games and the jump scares from horror movies when you can get it from mother nature? There you go. 0: Oh, and nature is scary. Let me tell you. 1: It's scary. You know, the other I'm gonna I'm gonna admit some stuff in the I I saw that there was a tornado watch warning, tornado warning in in Chelsea's area the other night. And I said, did you see this tornado warning? And I and she's like and she shows me her entire week, a screenshot, and it's all just beautiful sunshine and rosy. And I'm I'm like, no. No. No. Right here. I go to her the screen on where, you know, kinda where her town is, and I touched it because I've got 2 towns. She's kinda in between 2 towns. So I got 1 town, and I'm like, okay. Let me tell her which town I've got here. And that town tells me the name of the town, and it tells me it's partly sunny. In the meantime, there's a tornado warning. 4: Woah. 0: Yep. And, and then I pulled up the warning and it's not just warning about a tornado. It's, it's warning about 3 inch hail. And like, I mean, I've been in some hailstorms. I've never seen 3 inch hail in my life. And and I'm watching this giant cloud come over the horizon, and I actually went out on the hill and took some pictures because it was it was beautiful. And, yeah, it had this clear circle in between the the clouds. There were these weird low laying dark clouds and then the the canopy of clouds above it. And I guess that, you know, that's like your it's coming. So we we prepared. We're like, what are we gonna do? Because 3 inch hail, you have to, like, try to prepare protect your vehicle. So we we, like, park the cars under trees and, put a blanket over the windshield of 1 and kind of hope for the best. And where I I was standing at the door looking at these clouds. I've never seen so, you know, like, when a video is hyperlapsed, you can see the clouds moving really fast. I love those. But this was like watching a hyperlapsed cloud in real time because it was, you know, as I'm watching it swirling in on itself and we're like, oh, is this the is this a tornado? And, and we could feel oh, gosh. Looking out the door, you can see birds. At the time, there were birds desperately flying against the wind and stationary in place. Like you like, you've probably seen in movies. Like, the birds were just, like, flapping in place and going nowhere, and then eventually giving up and, like, flying backwards. And we're watching this and we're like, oh, gosh. And and then you could feel the winds, but it kind of just brushed right by us. So we, you know, we we tried to prepare as best we could. We've done some further preparation today because, we spotted some weaknesses during the storm, And, hopefully, we'll be prepared for the next 1. Because like you say, it was clear, blue, beautiful skies, and then out of nowhere and it was moving so fast. You could just see the clouds, like, just barreling across the sky. It was crazy. I think we're up really high here because it was like you could almost touch the clouds. They were so low. 2: Wow. You know, I guess preparedness is the watchword from weather to health to megalomaniac, genocidal elites. It's all preparedness. Isn't that the watchword? I think it is. 3: I just 0: Yep. All this to kind of do all all this to kind of do the thing, you were talking about earlier, Miriam, to, you know, if you can if you can live in the middle of nowhere on something that's actually yours, then it beats living in the city and, you know, paying all every time you have to to to rent or whatever. Yeah. And the the independence, like, it's it's not easy, but it it is it feels very free. So 2: Yeah. In a time when there truly isn't a lot of freedom, you know, we we talk about we live in the land of the free, in the land of the brave, but we really aren't free. We really aren't, and I think the last few years have proven that. 1: Isn't that the truth? Holy cow. 2: But we can, on an individual level, regain our individual freedom. It takes work, and it takes reprioritizing, you know, what's important to you. And when you realize that you come into this world with nothing and you take nothing with you, if you really, really realize that, you can really start to make some changes that give you a much greater degree of freedom and control over your own destiny and your own life and your own health. And I think that's really what it comes down to. 4: Yep. 0: Protocol widow has a recent sub stack out about medical records updated with the latest information. That's 1 way, you know, to take some control after something like this has happened to you or a loved 1. Miriam's got a lot of great info on her Substacks all about all of this stuff. So check those out to, to learn more, and, I don't know. I think we'll go ahead and wrap it up. Not many requests. I don't know if this is an x bug or, you know, nobody's feeling very talkative. Not a whole bunch of requests and getting kinda late, especially on the East Coast, so I think we're gonna wrap it up. 1: Well, you know, we've all got 0: a, 1: I used to live a lot closer to the water. Any place that has a lake, a river, the ocean, those folks are all at the tiki bar. It's Saturday night. They can't figure just we're not gonna have we're not gonna have the same group of people we have in the wintertime when it's too damn cold to go outside and even smoke a cigarette. So, you know, it's it's what it's gonna be in the summertime. Everybody's out doing 2: stuff. So Yep. But we're thankful that you guys are here, and we always look forward to spending time with you and, kind of sharing in, both the burden and, the the uplifting part of the shared love and support. So we love having you here, and thank you for being here. 0: Before we before we sign off, I'll give Kat a chance to come up. I think she wants to promote a space they're having on Friday real quick, Kat, because we're just about to wrap up. 10: Hi, y'all. Yeah. Definitely, I want to invite everybody to come to the space, to the Heal Your Body show next Friday. It's going to be the nutrition detective, and Miriam will be my cohost. And Make Me Ow will be your host. And, as soon as the lecture is over, we will be having, sort of an, memorial for Hippie, for Jace. So, hopefully, you guys will come, and everybody we're we're not gonna have it be the usual 5 or 10 minute, last word. Instead, we're going to be having anybody say anything they want and, you know, memories, thoughts, whatever. People can say things about hippie and stories and, you know, prayers, whatever. So, definitely, you wanna come to that 1. And, it is it's Friday the thirteenth, indeed. It starts at 4PM Pacific time and 7PM Eastern time. So I hope you guys I put the, links down in the nest, so I hope you guys will all come. Thanks. 0: Thanks, Kat. Yeah. I was on the the 7 hour prayer space where I I believe they they started the space praying for hippies recovery and only learned during the the space that she had passed and everyone kind of in real time, had to process that loss and the the sadness and the shock of that. And, it went on, I think, until Melissa just couldn't she had to she had to mourn in her own way personally too. So, I'm really glad that they had that. I'm really sad that that it turned into, prayers for recovery to a memorial. But this is part of why we're here and why we do this and, why we're gonna keep doing this every Saturday at 9PM. The space that Kat referenced is pinned in the nest. That is Friday, June 13 at I think that would be 7PM eastern. So definitely mark that. That's gonna be very sad. But also, you know, it's important that we we don't just let let our friends disappear without acknowledging what they've been put through by these friends against humanity. So thank you, Kat, for coming on. Thank you so much, protocol widow and Miriam, for co hosting tonight. Kat, do you have your hand up, or is that just an artifact? 10: I just wanted to add real quick. I think it's really important to know that this hospital, this Kaiser Permanente system did indeed, contribute to, if not, stir it up, murder her. It it was so negligent for the last, 4 to 6 months. It just I mean, the the the things that they did, that I learned, incrementally as as her treatment went on and on were so shocking. It wasn't, you know, remdesivir, but, you know, it was, just I'm gonna use the word negligence even though it was so far beyond negligence. It's just important to know that this just wasn't natural. It was vaccine injury on top of hospital negligence. So I I do want people to know that. 0: I I I really regret not pressing. I mean, she was always she wasn't doing well, so I don't wanna ask, you know, anything of of anyone when they need to be focusing on their health, but I wish that I had pressed her to document her story at CHBMP. And, I would invite you or Gary or maybe y'all could collaborate on on documenting her story with us because we feel it should be a part of our living archive. 2: And, I will say this. I suspect that every chance the system gets, it's going to hasten the deaths of the people that they've already injured with these jabs. So I think telling Hippie's story would be something that she would be on board with because she always tried to help everyone even as she was suffering. And if the story of what they did to her helps save other people from going through that same months and months of abuse when she's already suffering from the jab, then, you know, I I hope that you, Kat, or whoever would feel right about doing that could maybe do it because I think it would honor her. But, we love you, Kat, and I'm so thankful that you're here. And I'm looking forward to co hosting with you on Friday. 10: That's awesome, Miriam. Can you remember to say that in the space? Hopefully, Melissa and Gary and others who know of the, incremental abuse that that happened to her, by both Apria and Kaiser Permanente. 2: Yes, ma'am. I will be happy to say it. 10: Definitely say that. Yep. 2: Yeah. I mean, I even sent some DMs to some people, which I won't say publicly right now, but I was pointing out exactly that, about Priya and other things. So, yes, I'll be happy to squeeze that in at the appropriate moment. 0: And I went looking for I don't know if you guys remember. We had a space, that had gone on kind of long and and hippie hadn't had a chance to. To speak and then it crashed and we debated whether to just, you know, call it a night and reboot and we reboot it just so we could hear from hippie. And I'm so glad we did that. We're just full 2: We did that till 2 or 3 in the morning eastern time. I remember because it was me and you, and then just a few people plus Hippy. It was I'm so glad we did that too. 0: So I went looking for that recording. And, unfortunately, for whatever reason, there there are long there are a couple months where all of our recorded spaces are no longer on x. It is something went wrong. Try again later. And it's not a timing thing because I can go back farther than that. I can go back to, you know, our spaces from 2024 and and still download those. But these few spaces, including that 1, were not are no longer available on x. And I'm I'm I keep trying that link because it says, please try again later. And I've I've you know, I'm gonna keep refreshing it because I would I would love to have that. But it does occur to me that she has spoken on our spaces enough that we might be able to, you know, put something together in her own words about about her story. 2: Oh, that would be lovely, I think. 0: Yeah. When I discovered that these spaces are being selectively nuked from the platform, I went to work on a a script or a series of scripts now. It kind of grew quickly, that will enable us to just put in a link to a space and generate the a backup of that recording and the transcript. And now I'm just stuck on getting the speaker list, which is kind of obfuscated in JavaScript, but I'm sure I can do it. And once I have that, I'm gonna make a point of archiving all the spaces, you know, that we've done that are still available on x and, you know, from this point forward. So we don't, you know, we don't lose. This is a it's a critical part of the historical record, these conversations. It's it's proof that these things have happened. It's personal testimony, and I think it's important. So, that's all. Thank you, Kat, for for coming on and for hosting that space. We'll be looking forward to it. Thank you, Miriam, for co hosting. I haven't seen McMeow in a minute, but, it would be nice to see her. And, this was a really good conversation. Thank you all for coming. Thank you for staying and listening. I hope more of you will wanna join us in conversation next week, and I look forward to seeing you then. Oh, also on the eighteenth, we will be doing, kind of a unique space where we'll have, my husband, Adam, will be available to, answer questions and elaborate on various technical subjects. And, and we're also going to, on that same day, we're going to start, another we're gonna start our own CHBMP, Wednesday support group. And that will be a little earlier in the day, so that we can toggle to the the space after. So there's something to look forward to. 2: Yes. And we know that we definitely need that these days with the fire hose of events that are not so pleasant. It's important to have this source of information and support and just love and camaraderie. So thank you, Chelsea. Thank you, for doing that and for everything that you do, and thank all of you guys for being here. We can't wait to see you again next week. 0: Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you, Miriam. Thank you, protocol. Thanks, Kat. Thanks, everyone, for coming and listening, and we'll see you next week. Good night, everyone.