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0: Hello? 1: Hello. Welcome. 2: Welcome, Mick. Good to see you. How are you doing? Welcome, Mick. Welcome, everyone, to another CHBMP space. We are happy to have you here tonight. Please give us a few minutes to get situated, and we will get started. How are you doing, Mick? 3: I am doing super fabulous to ex bialidocious. Can you hear me? I was having just a little bit of trouble hearing you. 2: Yep. I hear you. Can you hear me now? 3: Yes, ma'am. I can hear you now. 4: Glad your 3: business. You doing good? 2: Yeah. I'm doing really good. Looking forward to the space tonight. 4: Me 2: too. Gail's on. Gail, you should have a cohost. Your space last night was amazing. That was I really great. 3: We were so blessed. I had, Alan Martin whose daughter Trista was killed by the Pfizer, gene therapy bioweapon, and Gail, who I'm telling you, I was like she was like she was like she was like putting people down to listen or pulling them up as speakers. She was like putting things in order. I was like, dang, girl. It was it 1: was it was a 1 4: of those calls. 2: Gail is such a good cohost. She is always right on top of things. 4: Well, we learned we learned through doing, Mick. You should've seen our first feed spaces. 5: We were like 4: yeah. It was like Larry, Curly, and Moe trying to run. 3: I'm just gonna leave it on me. 2: Anyone who didn't catch last night's space would 4: make the You know, issues sometimes with spaces because 2: Speaking of issues, can you hear me, Gail? Can you hear me, Gail? I think Gail can't hear me. 3: Yeah. I'm not sure if Gail can hear you. Gail, can you hear me? 4: I can hear you. Can you hear me? 3: I can hear you. Can you hear Chelsea? 4: Chelsea speak. I could hear her before. 2: Okay. Can you hear me now? 4: Chelsea, go ahead and speak again. 2: Hello? Hello? Testing? 3: No. No. She can't hear you, Chelsea. Mhmm. 2: Alright. I'm gonna try popping out and popping back in again. I'll be right back. 4: Well, I'm gonna what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna leave and come back. 3: Well, alright. 2: I'll let I'll let Gail try that then. 3: Okay. Okay. Then then she said you go ahead and and if it if it doesn't fix it, then she'll do it. 2: Yep. I I figured out the the secret to not having you saw Mario's, space crashed earlier. The way to avoid doing that is what I do is I open it first on my computer, and then I open it on my phone because it's gonna crash on the phone at some point. So if I have it open on the computer, I can, you know, just leave that open, mute it so it doesn't have feedback, and then, operate it from my phone. And then when it crashes on my phone, it's still being kept live by the computer, and I can just reconnect. So FYI. 3: Oh, that's a good idea. I might go ahead and do that too because I was gonna do it on my computer, and then I had it on my phone. And but, yeah, I was listening to that space. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Tulsi Gabbard was speaking, and, you know, they, they really were talking about the the unity, of, you know, like, a reformation of the GOP and, a couple of the speakers, doctor Jordan was speaking. And he said, you know, if you think that you have, seen the movie, please buy another ticket because this is something totally different. And I thought that was really incredible because it's, Donald Trump and, of course, the vice president, you know, elect, candidate JD Vance. But then you've got, Robert Kennedy junior and having that make America great again and make America healthy again, and then they just said in the space that Donald Trump is open to bringing in a libertarian. So kind of bringing those people all to the table to to get back to what we used to be in America, and every single 1 of them was calling it straight up what the, regime, that's what I call them is now, which is a, a straight up, run to Marxism. You know? So, 4: Tulsi 3: spoke yeah. Tulsi spoke. Did you hear her speak about how the the day after, which I think we all know this, but the day after that, she criticized Kamala Harris, you know, speaking about the dangers of her as a president, not just a candidate, but as the vice president. And and if she became president, and then she got put on the quiet eyes list. You know? It's like, oh god. You know? 2: That's scary. That's amazing that they're just putting all of their political opposition on these target lists. That that's really frightening. They're not supposed to do that. I mean, wasn't wasn't Nixon deposed for less? 3: Mhmm. Mhmm. And it is. It's scary. I mean, you know, they were talking about how, you know, with, Robert f Kennedy junior and, you know, keeping him off the ballot and, you know, all of the censorship that has gone on and, you know, I I I wasn't a speaker, but I was speaking to my phone. You know? Yes. Quiet skies, not quiet eyes. Did I say quiet eyes? You're you're you're blinkers. The blinkers. 2: You were thinking 5 eyes. 3: I was. I was thinking the third eye 6: in the middle of your head, but, you 3: know, it's it was really scary to think about that. You know, they would go after Peter Navarro. They'll go after Steve Bannon. They'll go after Tulsi Gabbard. They'll go after Robert f Kennedy junior. They'll they're going after Elon Musk. We know they've gone after, you know, president Trump, and then, I think it was, Joyless Reed. And, who's the guy who's got, like, the really, large hair? My Milas Milas, something like that, I think, is his last name. And, he, they were just calling us despicable people, not Trump. They were calling anybody who supported Trump, voting for Trump, kinda like it was the Hillary Clinton deplorable all over again. So, I, I see Gail is is back as cohost. Can you hear me? 2: Yeah. She's showing as cohost to you and I, but she is not seeing herself as cohost. Gail, are you able to to talk at all? Yeah. I don't think so. We're we're having some tech issues. I'm wondering if I should try rejoining. 6: Okay. Sure. 2: Alright. So you'll just have to carry us for a minute, Mick. I'll be right back. 3: No problem. So I'm really excited and blessed and honored, to be asked to cohost, this evening. This is an incredible space. And, for any of you who are, not aware, I'm, Mick Meow, Mick Rosado, but I go by Mick Meow because, you know, things like this, these crimes against humanity make me wanna just. And, it needs to have accountability, responsibility. We need transparency. And, any of you who weren't on the space that we had last night with Alan Martin and, Taylor Martin, Alan and Taylor who lost their daughter, Trista, to the gene therapy bioweapon. She, she died after her second dose, of all kinds of cardiac issues that we are so familiar with now. And they they need accountability. Gail was there. I know you all know Gail's story. Deb was there. I see Deb in the in the space down there. Others of you were there, and, you know, that's what we're doing in Oklahoma. We have a champion, with representative JJ Humphrey. He is willing to, he opened up a COVID interim study, and we are looking at those things that are necessary to ensure accountability, responsibility, transparency. And, I I've been quoting Ivan Raikland because it's absolutely true, the retribution. You all have lost loved ones. Those lives can't be replaced, And, they they took something from you that should have never ever ever been on the table. And as a nurse, it it breaks my heart. It makes me angry. And, when I spoke up and told, my management because after 2 years, we had totally lost contact with our family members. They weren't letting them into the, the, clinics. And I said there we were using mRNA technology, and it was like, no. You you can't do this. These people are going into cytokine storm. They were coding, right there in front 1: of our 3: eyes, and their loved ones were having to wait in the garage, and, you know, sit there for 12, 13, sometimes 16 hours going through these clinical studies and and then be told, I'm I'm so sorry. Your loved 1 either coded and they passed away or they're in the ICU, but you can't be able to go in and see them is unacceptable. Unacceptable. Should have never happened. And, 1 of the things that I think we really hit home last night was the fact that, the medical professionals should have locked arms. And, when I went to my management and said, we we can't do this anymore. We have to have a system. We have to give these people information. I I cannot go to another car and say, I'm so sorry. That's unacceptable that, you know, I was told, that the health care facilities were the most diverse, equitable, inclusive, that health care was the most diverse, equitable, and inclusive, industry that there was, and there was no room for the white sorority girls. And that, again, should never happen. So, I say that all because I just want you all to know where my heart is and that, every single 1 of you, I would love to have on my show to talk to you and to get your stories up because they are so important. If I'm still vamping and, if I'm still talking and you need me to shut up, just say, Nick, shut up. 2: No. I love it, and I love your willingness to to host all of the victims on your show. I think that's so important and such a huge, huge thing to to give them a platform to get their stories out. I don't know if you saw, John Davidson, who is AKA Broken Truth and did the epidemic of fraud movie. He recently posted, just an excerpt from the hospital homicide rally that we did earlier this year, of David Dobson and and his wife, Misty, talking about the the tragic and horrific torture and murder of their son, in in the hospital due to the protocols. They basically starved this poor disabled child to death, And it was a very emotional speech that David Dobson gave at the whole hospital homicide rally, and and John Davidson just posted, like, a 3 minute clip of that. And it was so powerful. And I you know, of course, I'm retweeting it, and I posted it reposted it on our Substack notes, and, and he posted it on his TikTok. And today, TikTok took it down. They took it down for alleged misinformation against their policy. And, you know, that just hits home that this is very much still happening. The the lived account, the firsthand account of David Dobson was discarded and deplatformed for alleged misinformation. And I think that's so you know, that's just almost as horrific as what was done in the first place, that they're still suppressing it. 3: Absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. And the fact that, you know, I, you know, get things like that for for YouTube, TikTok, you know, that you can't say those words. It has been so demonized, and and that was at the hands of our you know, I mean, I know the globalist, but our our own government, it's like, I that is the most ridiculous thing to to demonize something that we now know is true, that it would still go on, and and they wouldn't even think a word about it. They they just, you know, continue on on this path of of saying that that your your voice isn't worthy to be heard. These are not throwaway people. These are not throwaway souls. Everyone is a precious living soul created by God. And for those voices to be silenced, you know, yes, we want you to have accountability and answer here, but I guarantee on the other side, there's gonna be answers for that. You know? When they stand in front of God, he's gonna have to look at them, and I'm imagining there's gonna be a whole lot of head shaking going on, because it's intentional. They're doing it, you know, you know, like I said, intentionally on purpose, and, that there's no there's no room for that. That's pure evil. Frank, I see Frank is on. Howdy, Frank. How are you? 7: Well, hello, Mick. I'm great. I've had a couple hours to get my act together after that, Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk event last night. That was that was really, it it was exciting. I mean, the the vibe there was really good, and he's going to number 8. I guess he's got 16 going on, and then got on your space last night. And I I listened to a fair part of what you were talking about with Robert Kennedy and Jordan Peterson, Tulsi Gabbard, you know, the host there. I mean, Brett Weinstein comes from the other side. His his whole career has been on the other side. He's helped put people into that whole area that's running the show now, and, you know, people like Tulsa you know, these people have come over to the, you know, the Republican side, which is, you know, encouraging. It's it's encouraging and and bringing this out as you said, everything that goes on it's like a sandlot, an activity in the playground where you have bullies, and that's what the, social media control force is doing, and then, you know, they're they're using the whole bully tactic. And and as Jordan Peterson since said, they're doing it at such a fast rate that, even if you're trying to keep up with it, you can't keep up with it. So that that populist that he said is, become complacent to the interest of a a voting activity, unfortunately, I think those people are sitting there kind of like the walking wounded, and, a lot of people won't vote for 1 reason or the other, and, you know, that's unfortunate. So, and I think I mentioned this to you because with all the work I've done with Doctor. David Martin, with Stanford Graham, and many people that they've been aligned with, you know, I heard the word democracy used a lot, it's always used a lot, and 1 of my good friends Craig Perry pointed out as someone who's, like, spent most of his career reading that document. Democracy is not used in that document. I don't know if people understand that. And the fact, in fact, that our country is founded upon the British East India Trading Company, remember 1604 Queen Elizabeth the first, and the fact, in fact that our country is founded upon the British East India Trading Company. Really? I'm hearing a reverberation of my own voice. Is it coming through real time now? 3: Yeah. I can I can hear you? I don't hear any reverb. I I muted my mic just in case it was something 0: Yeah. 3: Weird on my end. 7: Yeah. So, I heard I heard, like, 1 statement come back. So, you know, David Martin put together, a a documentary about 10 years ago, called American REvolution. It was a 2 hour documentary of of his understanding of the the history pre, our coming over here and and then when we came over here and as the banks and insurance companies rose up in the activities of, monopolizing things, It's a great movie. We brought it out 2 years ago. I encourage people, I'll put it in the nest, but it really gives an area, and for a lot of people that are taught through institutions, they're not getting the real story. So, you know, the British East India Trading Company is the 1 who launched the, the scarcity and dominion, energy theme across the world, and we're a byproduct of that. We came here and then we did to what the Indigenous cultures American nations who had occupied this area for centuries, we did exactly what the Left is trying to do to 8: us 7: today. So, we have to look using the rearview mirror as a, just a a piece of what a reality condition is to how do we move forward in a better way. And, you know, we have, amendment, characteristics that say that if the government's getting out of control, supposedly we're able to come in and correct that. Well, that's never been done. So, that other space I'm going, boy, you know, that group that's gonna be doing these events in the 1 September 20 ninth, they should be looking at how do you reconstruct this the thing that is operating that we use the word and the energy of government. How do we reconstruct that so that we don't we we we Oh my god. Feedback. Feedback was so it it's you know, there's there's a lot of moving parts here, and what I try to do is share with people that there are fundamental, elements of information, that go back centuries that have reduced human capabilities. Our 12 senses, we've been taught 5 senses, and as David Martin says, the population of the the the world is basically operating at 1.3 senses and that makes it tough for us to actually rise to the level of our potential. So, I I I'm I'm looking forward and encouraged to listen to some people tonight, but I wanna bring to attention 9: many of 7: the facets that David Martin has brought to all of us, and as Mick knows, Stan Graham, who works with David, is on that group for the Oklahoma COVID, interim study activity. David is likely to come in through, you know, a a video cast into that to to help, you know, where where he can help. And as as all of you know, a year ago May, he was invited to the, European Union to present with a focus on the World Health Organization, and that presentation he did in 21 minutes has over 4,000,000,000 views and has gotten a lot of recognition and, you know, he outlined all the the history of the Fauci, Barrack, the United States, UK, 19 65 COVID or coronavirus experiment, and all the tentacles that go into what happened 4 years ago. The history of no. No. This started way, way, way, way, way back. And when he published the Fauci COVID 19 dossier in March of 20 April 2020. He sent that out to all of our elected officials. They all got it. So they had all the details and the information at the very start of the shenanigans that we've been under the thumb of. And I encourage people to, I put that in the nest to copy it, paste it into your notes, and take a look at it. So, you know, part of it is the 5,000 patents that universities, that NGOs, that individuals, that agencies own as patents. 5,000 patents just under the name of Coronavirus. So, I think, you know, my point here is to provide, backdrop information which a lot of people have never had access to, and I think will help them, open up multiple lenses of perspective to how we can operate better as humans. Because if you and the person that looks in the mirror, if they can't operate at the highest level that they are aspiring to, making efforts to be, then we can't overcome these, tools of weaponization that are being thrown at us. So I'm I'm gonna leave it there and, look forward to everyone else's, contributions. 3: Thank you, Frank. I didn't know if, if, I'm gonna call them the beautiful cohost and host. 4: Can you hear me? Can you hear me? 3: Yes. There you are. 4: So I'm good now. I feel 3: I threw the mic out to several people, so I hope it's coming through. It it looks on my end like they're they're still out there. So I'm gonna see if I can throw the mic again if anybody wants to come up or if anybody wants to request to to come up. Sometimes that's easier, and, and I'll I'll 4: Let me yeah. Let me just I wanna pipe in 1 1 thing on so on our spaces on this spaces, we do have some, you know, some rules which we're really not always that great at, at, adhering to, just so you know. Like, you know, we're not real Nazis about it, but, we do this is a moderated space spaces. So, if you want to speak, please put your press the little microphone button and ask to speak. The primary purpose for the spaces is to talk about the COVID related crimes against humanity, and we want to give eyewitnesses, I e victims, people who are impacted, people who who have had these crimes against humanity perpetrated upon them, whether it's protocol deaths, protocol survivors shot, gene therapy shot, injured, and those who have lost loved ones to that. We wanna give them the preference for their speaking. You know, they we we do try to prioritize them. And then we also have some really great, like, whistleblowers and professionals that join us that, you know, people have a lot of questions for. And so when when somebody speaks and then hands go up, we try to prioritize those hands, take the questions so because they're probably relevant to the person who just spoke, and then we do try to keep an order. So we just so all that to say, you know, if you if you have something for the speaker or the previous speaker, just put your hand up, but allow us to call on you so that we don't get into all these side kind of conversations that can go on forever because, we also have to sleep. And as anybody who's been on these spaces knows, these things can go till, like, 2, 3 in the morning. 2: Yeah. But we're trying not to not to do that anymore. 4: You know, just be mindful of you know, when we make you know, if we've already covered a topic, we may have to redirect some people that join later. And then, we don't really tall we don't tolerate, like, trolls and things in the spaces, so we'll block them because they've had 4 years reign to censor us, and we don't really feel obligated to give them, any kind of voice that, you know, their censorship has cost millions of people their lives, and we're not we don't really tolerate it. So, sometimes it gets passionate. So, bear with us. Try not to take offense. If somebody has an opinion that's different than yours or says something that you think just because somebody comes up here and speaks doesn't necessarily mean we agree with them, but we do try to give people you know, there's a lot of thing lot of topics that are debatable out there that that people argue about. Those are not the space really isn't for that, so we we do try to shut down those conversations because we want it don't want it to detract from, the real solutions and the real, you know, what's really going on. So 2: Right. There are so many layers to to what's going on. We could spend all night getting into the weeds of all of the different things. But our primary focus, the reason we're here is to hear from individual eyewitnesses to COVID related crimes against humanity and to give you a platform to share your stories related to that. 4: Yeah. And and a a lot of people don't know how we got involved in it. Right? So you'll hear from victims like every I think everybody knows, but not everybody always knows that I'm a survivor. My husband and my daughter stormed the ICU and saved my life. And if you go to my pinned post on my Twitter account, you'll see the police standoff we had, and you'll see a link to, to my story. So, so that's I mean, I definitely have skin in the game. We have a lot of people that come in here. They have skin in the game. They they had a husband, a daughter, a son, a brother, a sister killed by the protocols, by doctors, by the by the protocols. It wasn't, a sad event. It I mean, it was a sad event. It wasn't a, you know, an unfortunate mistake or accident. It was on it was on purpose, and it was on purpose to get people to roll up their sleeves and take a an experimental shot that has injured, maimed, killed millions across the globe. So, we're all part of the same it's all the same issue to us. Right? Like, we we have a kinship. Those of us who have been harmed by the protocols or lost loved ones by the protocols, we understand that we are in the same fight as the the gene therapy shot injured and those who have lost loved ones from the gene therapy shot. We are in this together. I hate to use that phrase, in this together, but we are part of the same fight, part of the we're battling the same enemy. And, you know, it's like they did 1 to get to the other. So, anyway, so we we we try to really stick to that subject. There are other crimes against humanity related to COVID that we do wanna hear about as well. You know, people have been injured by the test. People have been forced to do things that I don't that just stupid things, you know, the the the lockdowns and all that. We desperately are looking for people who, were killed in the nursing homes, those early deaths to scare us, and on the military bases. We really want to find we know that they that that they did these things early on to our soldiers, these treatments, and they continued to do it, but they were nursing homes and our military bases were probably the first place that they that they experimented. So, yeah. So 2: And they they really they deliberately murdered thousands, countless thousands of people in nursing homes across the country and especially in the blue cities and almost almost exclusively in blue cities. There are a few a few red, red governors who actually participated in this also. But but, yeah, there seems to have been a systematic determination that they were going to try to kill off as many people in nursing homes as possible Yes. By mandating. The 1 thing that everybody nobody agrees on anything. But the 1 thing everybody agreed on going into the the the hype of the pandemic was the old people and the the infirm, the elderly and infirm were going to be most susceptible to the virus. So then for them to have almost unilaterally mandated the nursing homes except the COVID positive, seems it seems self evident. And when Cuomo just went to testify about this, he tried to put all of the blame on the president of The United States when we know that it was at the at the level of the governors and the the local state health officials that mandated this. And and, also, almost unilaterally, those who did this were elevated to positions of greater power after the fact, after having done that. They were rewarded for having done that. Our, assistant human health services is, is 1 of those people who actually moved his mother out of his stepmother out of assisted living and into a hotel prior to mandating that all assisted living facilities accept the COVID positive. So it seems pretty obvious that that was coordinated and, and really orchestrated to to take a toll on those groups. 4: Right. And in addition to that, first, I can't believe that you misgendered the man. No. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Also but yeah. Yeah. I get also, I I I don't really ever, and I mean ever, give a lot of leeway to people who say who point the finger to somebody else. We all have some kind of moral compass that should direct us to not kill people. Like, I don't care who told me to do what, when, where, how. If it if it's an if it's some kind of an order to if it's, you know, in the illegal order, the even the military doesn't have to, you know, carry it out. But if if somebody gives tells you to do something that's going to kill people, you freaking don't do it. I mean, if if I don't I don't buy it that you know, I mean, it was it only only a few governors did it, so, you know, this was definitely something they concocted. And they did it because they these lives were expendable. They were useless eaters. Right? They they were, you know, getting their pensions or their Social Security and their Medicare and, you know, people were living longer and that they saw them as expendable just like the disabled children that they targeted. Yeah. I mean, there that there's no excuse. Nobody has any excuses. And it and it's becoming, to the point now the this number of years later where legislators are gonna have to do something on the state levels. And if they don't if they don't wanna talk about it and they don't wanna do something about it, they you may as well understand that they're complicit with it. They know because there isn't anybody that in government that doesn't know what happened by now. They they freaking know. Every single state, you've had people going there telling them what happened. Every single state has seen the countless countless, round tables on the topic. So, you know 3: You know, Gail, I just wanna say something. When you were talking about that, I I can tell you even before nursing school, I don't know how many people wouldn't consider somebody who was elderly, to be more at risk than the normal population. We know that older people, you know, they, you know, their immune systems, you know, aren't functioning like they they were when they were even in their, you know, maybe fifties or sixties. You know? And and then you had on top of it the the people who had the, you know, the comorbidities. I I, you know, it's I had an interview, with doctor Naomi Wolf, just the other day, and we were talking about, you know, the information that, doctor Thorpe, she's put out a new book, the Pfizer papers, and we were talking about the information that doctor Thorpe came out with about the, the impact on reproduction and how and I I can't help but see this in any other light that this was a a depopulation because you never never give experimental drugs to a pregnant woman because you don't know what the effects are for that maternal fetal, you know, relationship there. You don't know what's gonna happen to the baby. And it's the same thing with elderly people. You don't put an elderly person back into a nursing home when they are sick, when they, you know, were still positive for COVID. It's it's, undeniable, male practice in in my opinion because you know what's going to happen. It's going to spread like brush fire through that nursing home. There's just no other way around it. 4: Yeah. I mean and, you know, and not to mention that I was on a rant earlier today about this. The the whole EUA emergency use authorization has become just like this big rubber stamp. There should never be an emergency use authorization for something that is completely treatable with a cheap, effective, safe treatment, multiple treatments, something that is not I I mean, like, there was no reason. They're still coming up with emergency use authorization stuff with regard to COVID, and they know damn well that hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, vitamins, budesonide are all very effective treatments, super effective treatments, zinc, all of that. And, in in fact, they knew that when COVID hit because SARS 1 in, what is it, 02/2003 or 02/2004, they used hydroxychloroquine to to fight that to to treat that. And so they knew and then everything emergency use authorization was just, you know, experimental, rubber stamped with the EUA authorization. It was ridiculous, and it's still ridiculous. If you see we people need to understand. If you see EUA oh, this is a emergency use authorization drug. Just say no. Say no to emergency use authorization drugs. Say no to, if you're if you I would ask your doctor. If you have a doctor, ask your doctor, if I got COVID, how would you treat me? What would you treat me with? If they say anything other than ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, budesonide, or treating the symptoms, an antibiotic, oral steroid, if they say anything but those things, get a new doctor because you cannot trust your doctor. You can't trust your doctor. I did I had my sister do this because she was sick. Like, ask your doctor. The doc tell the doctor you're not gonna take a COVID test, but if you were positive, what would they treat you with? If it's not ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, you know, those types of drugs, say no, no, no, no, and no again, and then get yourself a new doctor because because they don't know what the hell they're talking about. And if they're lying to you about how they would treat COVID or they're too afraid to treat you correctly with COVID, they will not treat you correctly if you get something else, if you have something else. And that to me, those doctors are a danger to their patients. And with that, I'll land my plane. Sorry. 3: Coming in for a landing. Roger that. Parallel the runway. 2: That's right. Yeah. 4: I've been on that 1 because we've been dealing with a lot of sick people, and their doctors are telling them the wrong the doc their doctors are so afraid, so afraid to to to give them the right things. And, I I mean, and some of these people are kids. Some of these some of these people that are sick, they're kids. And they wanna give them crap like Paxlovid and all that stuff. I I I can't. We can't let this happen again. Just stop testing. Go ahead. 0: Do do do do 7: you think, though, that those doctors and, again, after all this long arc of time, are still at hostage with their licenses and being persecuted for I don't Well, I understand that. But but but are are those doctors not not convinced of of what what's going on here and what the alternative 4: It's their job. It's their job. If I'm I'm I'm an IT professional, and my job as an IT professional is to know what the latest technology is and always to stay on top of the latest technology. If they don't know what the proper treatment for COVID is today, today, this month, today, or last year even as far as I'm concerned, but today, they should turn in their license themselves because they're either cowards, they're willfully blind, and they and they're probably responsible for a lot of death because they didn't treat their patients early and with the right things. And they they shouldn't be doctors. We don't most of them don't even see sick patients anymore. They just let their nurse pack practitioner do it. Right? But, 10: yeah, that's 8: just All those 7: all those doctors you speak of, they are all those things that you just listed. Yep. And I think, unfortunately, they're just they're continuing on that path. 4: Right. Shame on them. Shame on them. I mean, they're they're gonna have to meet their maker someday. 3: I'm I'm gonna have to be better about not interrupting and mute my mute my mic. But I, I can tell you that from the physicians that I've talked to, the ones who were, you know, giving people ivermectin, the ones who were, you know, taking care of the patients, you know, and and doing the right thing, they still they still get and I don't know if they're being threatened by the the AMA or if they're being threatened by the the pharmacy boards, but they still, say that they get watched, you know, and have, like, audited. So yeah. 5: Sure. Do you see that do you see that do 4: you see that stopping doctor Bowden? No. No. And it 3: shouldn't that it doesn't. That's the thing. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Those are the doctors we want. You know? That's that was what health care used to be. Right? I mean Yeah. That's yeah. Yeah. I mean, they were like, do no harm first. I take care of my patient first. You know? 4: And and you know what you know what doctor Boden does that I love? And all the doctors should do this. She turns it in. I think Scott Miller touched on it last night in in the spaces was, was she she outs them first. Right? Like, if they give her a hard time in a pharmacy, she records the call to them. She puts them on blast on social media because she has a big following, and she just she just turns the tables on them. If if all of the doctors stood together, they would have no power over them. If all of the nurses stood together, they would have no power over them. They they need to to find their moral courage, and they need to stand up. If they can't do that, they cannot protect their patients. Could you imagine I mean, we're seeing this with police officers anyways, but could you imagine a situation where there's, a a criminal at large on your street and all of the police go, yeah. We don't wanna you know, it's kinda controversial, so we're just gonna let them wreak havoc on your street. You'd be like, what the hell? This is your job or your JOB. That's what a doctor's JOB is to take care of their patients. So if they can't do that, they should just hand hang up their shingle hang up their shingle and and not be a doctor. Don't pretend like you're going to help people. I I personally think those doctors should just be charged with fraud. Right? Like, they're defrauding their patients. They're like, I'm a doctor, and I can I can take care of you, and I'm, you know so people need to get smart, and they need to ask their doctor? That's a a good litmus test is how will you treat me if I have COVID? Well, do you have COVID? No. But how would you treat me if you if I have COVID? And, if it's anything but, if they if they shy away from ivermectin and they hem and haw and they blah blah blah and they say, well, you know, it's not FDA approved, thanks doc. You'll never see me again. That's what we did with every doctor. I mean, my husband even did this with his with his, dermatologist. It's like, hey. How would you treat somebody if they had COVID? He's like, well, I don't treat COVID patients, but how would you? What do you think of ivermectin, doc? Right? And he gave him some some, oh, it's not FDA approved. I don't ever want take me off your patient rolls. I don't ever wanna see you again. Like, it's just that, you know, we're that hard assed about it for sure. 11: Can I say something? Can you hear me? 4: Oh, sure. Who who was that? 11: Hi. It's Doc Sue. 1: Oh, okay. Doc Sue, 2: we do we do have a queue. So, there are people who've been waiting quite some time. So we'll get to you, shortly in the order that you, requested. 4: Go ahead, Chelsea. You can go down the queue. I I because I don't I know some people are first. And 2: Yep. Newnie's been waiting quite a while. How are you doing tonight, Newnie? 12: Oh, fine. Thank you. I I was just thinking about the space last night. It was excellent. And last night, I think we heard the first testimony, I think, was by Lisa of somebody who was not injected, but now has elevated, you know, a d dimer test indicating, you know, the microclotting. You know, that I think more tests are warranted to actually prove it. That's just an indicator. But, I think we're gonna start seeing those people come forward now. And she's aware of it. There are so many who are unaware, and that's the scary part. And I think there'll be a lot of anger for people who stood their ground, lost everything, and then now are, being, I don't know, transfected, infected, you know, with, this bioweapon. So I I I'm curious about, like, I'm hoping she does, you know, contact you and, submit her testimony. But I think we're going to see a lot more of that. Another thing I find really concerning is this debate about abortion when, birth rates are tanking and the population is being sterilized as we speak. 4: Oh my gosh. 12: Yeah. No. Like, they're they're not paying attention. If they're debating abortion, they're not paying attention to what's really going on with fertility. And, I I that just tells me, like, we have more work to do in terms of creating that awareness and, making sure. Like, I I always tell people, get get get a medical freedom doctor. Get a medical freedom holistic doctor. Get a medical freedom, you know, functional medicine doctor. Somebody who can actually treat you as opposed to going to 1 of these allopathic medicine doctors still in the system who are living under the delusion that there was a pandemic. There wasn't a pandemic. This was a bioweapon released on the population to depopulate. You know? And it it was a US government department of defense operation, and it's been in the works for decades. We've we've seen the receipts for that. You know? And some people try to pin it on Trump. I'm thinking this was coming whether he was, you know, president or not. And could you imagine what would have happened if Hillary was president? 4: Oh my god. 3: God help us. I know. 12: And and the thing about it is when I hear that, I I basically hear, you know, people with a bit of TDS syndrome for fuck sorry. He is a New Yorker. He is brash, but he is the man we need right now. And what makes him extraordinary is the team he's building around him. I you know, the fact that Kennedy's on board, and if he could be secretary of HHS, he's head of all those agencies. And I'd like to say agriculture go under there too because, you know, our gut biome starts in the soil. And this way, he can take care of all of that. But, you know, there is hope, but I I do believe that there's gonna it's gonna get a lot worse. And, you know, for the people who didn't keep up didn't keep up to the research and, didn't take prophylactic measures. And now we don't know how bad it is in the non injected population, but, you know, we are seeing indications. And I think last night was the first 1 I heard with a test. However, you know, I think it could be verified, like, you know, with the nucleocapsid test or something. Just more verification of her status. But we're going to see more of that, and and that's that's just it breaks my heart, and especially, I think it's going to be in the young kids whose parents, you know, didn't get them injected, went through crap, and then sent them back to public school where everybody's like you know? Like, that's the scariest part to me. 4: Yeah. I mean, that's that that's a real thing because, like, not that we would ever send the grandkids back to public school, but, you know, we'll do anything we can to keep them in homeschool. And it's and it's hard because some of their friends that have, you know, have been, at least, got the first 2 shots early on to play sports or whatever. And it's it's really difficult to see them them kids and how sick they get and the things the, you know, the issues that they had. But, it's, yeah. That's that's the sad part, and and the kids that are gonna you know, we've had people put in their stories where the mom and the dad died from, you know, after getting injected. And what and the kids, like, the kids are left to be raised by grandparents or what have you. It's incredibly this is incredibly sad. This is that's why it's a crime against humanity, and it makes us really pissed. 12: Well, it is, and it's the greatest humanitarian crisis on the planet right now. And I I I find it amazing. I'll go into other spaces, and they're they're speaking about trite things. Like, I'm just thinking, are you unaware or just unable to cope with reality right now? You know? I mean, I spend a lot of time looking at how to implement all of the things that we have just learned in the last 3 years into practical solutions. Like, how do like, if I'm, you know, fasting for 18 hours a day and I have 1 meal, how do I make that the most nutritiously dense meal with all the herbs I wanna take so I don't have to take a supplement, that I could just take the herb and put it in my food? Or, you know, people, you know, still drinking. My God. That's the last thing you wanna do is be consuming alcohol. It turns like, you know, like just like the beer alone, you know. I mean, the spike protein uses sugar as camouflage. Moreover, it, you know, feeds cancer. Why would you wanna take that? 4: I just I just want if you tell me ice cream is bad for me, I'm gonna hang myself. 12: Well, apparently, as long as it's homemade ice cream and you make it yourself because guess what? It's an unlisted ingredient because it's so common. They use, what is that? Ice defroster gas line antifreeze as a common ingredient, and they don't have to list it. So make your own ice cream. 4: But, yeah, if you're in ice cream, that's very southern. We do that's a very southern thing to make your own ice cream, by the way. 12: But if you're making your own ice cream with whole raw milk and eggs, that's good. That's good stuff. And stay away from the you know, there's other sweeteners that we can use. You can use maple syrup or honey and, just stay away from the processed sugar. I mean, the ones who are gonna make it through this are the ones who implement the changes they need in their lives. And because we have to protect our brains, because we know this thing goes through the blood brain barrier, we have to learn all of these things and implement them into our life to have healthy healing habits. Because regardless of whether you didn't take it or you took it, we all have it now. It's just how far it has progressed within you. 4: Yeah. I agree. I agree. Thanks for that. Appreciate your input as always. 2: Newnies put together the red pill starter pack. If you haven't seen that, I have pinned it to the top of the nest. I encourage everyone to check that out. I think Angela was next, but she dropped to listener. Catherine, how are you doing tonight? 4: Hey, Catherine. Hey, me? 13: Yeah. 10: Hey. How are you guys doing? 4: How are you doing? 10: You know, hanging in there, missing my guy. 4: Missing your guy. 10: Yeah. My husband. Yeah. You I'll never get used to it. 4: Tell people tell people a little bit about that because, we've had a lot of new people coming in and out of the spaces. And I don't wanna put you on the spot, but, like, you know, you a lot of people have this misconception about, you know, like because you were a nurse like my husband. Right? You you Yeah. 10: I was an RN. I had a bachelor's degree in nursing. 4: And and so can you, like, talk just with people an overview of your story, what happened, and how how you knew something was terribly wrong? 10: I knew every step of the way. Nothing made sense. 4: And just tell people We 10: went to urgent care, and, you know, they admitted him and 7: I think she's still listed as a listener. 10: Can you hear me? 3: For some reason, I can hear you. 4: No. I can hear you. I can hear you. Oh. 10: K. 4: I don't know. Some people can't hear you. I can 2: hear you too. 4: We can hear you. I think they have they're having issues with their go ahead, Catherine. 10: Yeah. So well, what was I saying? 4: You said you went to urgent care. K. 10: When he went to urgent care because he was having some trouble you know, not not too bad. Not too bad. But what? Oh, and and then they admitted him to the hospital, which I knew was not a good move. But, yeah. So from there, it went downhill quick. And everything I saw, and heard for his treatment made no sense to me. 2: In the bitterest of ironies, it made no sense to the prescribing doctors either. They were just following the protocol that they had been ordered to, to give everybody who came in with COVID, especially the unvaccinated, weren't they? 4: Yeah. They couldn't explain why. They couldn't explain I mean, they 10: Well, that that's unacceptable to me. 4: Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you when you hear things like, well, people people were afraid of losing their job or peep like, because, you know Totally unacceptable. Right. Because when you were a nurse, you wouldn't have even thought about doing that. 10: No. I wouldn't have. Yeah. All he needed was some, something to open his lungs up and maybe an antibiotic, and that's about it. Would have sent him right on home. 2: And it's worth noting that they inoculated doctors against the idea of prescribing antibiotics in advance of COVID back to at least 2019. 4: Oh, yeah. And and the proper use of steroids. Like, everything was opposite from what they what they did or what they should have been doing. You know, anything that they did treat the symptoms, they did the opposite for COVID. 10: Yeah. Common sense. It was pretty basic pretty basic, medical common sense. Yeah. It's all he needed was, yep. 4: And then they say, well, COVID behaves different. No. It does. COVID is different. COVID is this. COVID is that. COVID attacks your kidneys. No. It doesn't. Remdesivir does. And all these things and this they're still doing it. They're still doing it because, you know They're 10: still doing it. 4: Oh my gosh. Yeah. Today today, I was working with somebody who was hearing the same damn thing from their nurse pack nurse practitioner slash doctor, but only they refused to take a COVID test. 10: How stupid brainwashed do you have to 11: to be 10: to say, oh, it's your kidneys. Yeah. 4: Right. Exactly. I mean, so we're still yesterday, me and Huckleberry were on the phone all freaking morning with people. So don't take the test. Don't fall into their traps of 10: Definitely. 4: Treatment. You can't trust them. Okay. I I really can't 10: believe that's still going on. 4: I know. Crazy, isn't it? 10: Yeah. And just say it's your kidneys. Oh, 4: wow. Yeah. 2: And the cognitive dissonance of saying we can't treat this virus like any other virus because it's it's a novel virus. And at the same time, saying any any speculation about its origin is conspiracy theory and misinformation that should be censored. 10: Oh, man. That pisses me off so bad. 4: And I bet 10: Just basic comments. 4: Me too. I'm like, how should how how dare you? 10: How dare you? Definitely. That's been my thought all along. How dare they? I mean, they killed my husband. So believe me, I know the how dare you. 4: Yeah. Well, thank you for joining us, Catherine. 10: Well, thank you. 4: Who's next? Chelsea. 2: Well, I sent Angela, Mike, in case she wants to come back up. She would be next, but she dropped to listener. So, I think we lost, we lost 1 of those people too. So Gary, go ahead. And then you're Cali. 14: Can I hear my name? 4: Yep. You're next because a bunch of people dropped down the listener. 14: Oh, I was gonna give up my spot. I'm right in the middle of my honey ganache. Someone talked about honey. I got an organic honey ganache that'll knock you out. I followed, the rest homes, and, and I've talked to young people. I've been around people that have had COVID. I'm not vaccinated, by the way. And I knew that, it was wasn't a true vaccine when COVID hit. And, and since then, I've been real close, but, 1 lady was telling me that she ended up getting it just by hugging people. And and it's interesting that you really have to be close to people to get it. And some of the rest homes that I visited weren't as clean as the 1 my mom was in, and, and they were, okay. I really feel for the people that that do go to the doctor, and I just gotta say something about doctors. It's hard to fire a doctor, especially if he's the only 1 in town. 2: Oh, Gail knows that 1 too well. 14: What's that? 2: Gail knows that 1 too well. She tried to fire her doctor every day. He was trying to kill her, and he just kept coming back. 5: Yeah. 2: I'm sorry. Go on. Really? 14: Wow. That's unbelievable. Yeah. What about your hippopotamus oath? 4: Right. Exactly. 14: Oh, I mean, that's from the Simpsons. 5: I I 4: I got the reference. I love the Simpsons. 14: Sorry. Yeah. They got the Simpsons on. Right? 4: The Oracle of our future. Just watch the Simpsons. 14: Well, you you're talking to somebody that's been with them since they started. And, at school, we had Simpson parties. You know, every school has authors, writers come in. Well, we had the Simpson writers come in. And, and I've I've seen every Simpson. Matter of fact, I'm watching them right now. Every Simpson there is. Only when it got to Disney woke Simpsons. I've kinda boycotted that. I knew there was something wrong. I just didn't know it was Disney. But, and the other thing I noticed that, the younger people that I've talked to, they felt, you know, like it was just a flu. You know? And, and no problems there. And, and of course, now, what is it now? Even the kids are still getting the shots and the boosters. What? I don't know what's happening with what they got the guideline. Because I know in the commercials, they're inviting you to come in and get your vaccination for flu. Oh, while you're there, just get another COVID shot. 2: And there is no real data that says it is fine to give all these things together. They're they're saying they can save a lot of money by just having them all done at once, and they consider it they call it CAPTURE when they have somebody in the in the doctor's office who isn't, quote, up to date on all of their shots and boosters, and they see that as an opportunity to to just give them all of all of those things at once or within the same short span of time. And and there is there are some studies coming out showing increased rates of adverse events when you're getting more than, you know, more than 1 of these things at a time. 14: Mhmm. You know, 1 thing about doctors and drug companies, they're they're they're the ones I don't get along with. But the what really I feel for and and it bothers me a whole lot is people when they come in, oh, you're the doctor. Whatever you say. Without and some people just, oh, you're the doctor. 4: They trust them. They trust them unto death. And when when people contact us and they're, and they're they're trying to save a loved 1 in the hospital, that's the once they say we're gonna trust the doctor, we can almost guarantee it within days or weeks. They're gonna send us, they are gonna send us the obituary for their loved 1 almost all the time. 14: You know, that's just awful. That's like that. And me and and I I recall 1 instant. I was, oh, well, I elected to see a nurse practitioner. Okay. And she, very good, I guess, I'll I'll just say, she said, well, maybe you should just go to emergency and get this checked out. And, so I did. And, the doctor wanted to do something other than what I came in there for. And I explained it to her, and she just couldn't believe it. But, I mean, he really acted like a quack. You know, he wanted to fill me up with that. What is that? I'm trying to think. Oh, it's, it's a dye they, inject in your blood. It's radioactive. Or it's got some radioactive what's that? 2: Lucifereis. 14: I don't know. Something like that, and I just wasn't buying it. You know? I wasn't gonna do it. I had no 1 to talk to, and, but I just didn't buy it. I remember pointing to him. I said, well, the pain oh, it was had to do with something with my kidney. And I kept pointing to him. And I said, I was I was pointing to him. I was saying, you know, my kidney is up here. There's no pain here. It's down here. 8: You know? 14: And he just, of course, I I didn't get no treatment at all. And when I shared it with her, she was kinda shocked. But, I always wondered why nurses don't go on to be a doctor because, it's nice to be a nurse practitioner. And, you and it it's probably the same money. And, but when you're a doctor, it's nice to you know, if you ever go into practice, you have your own practice. You know? And, but the thing, I've I've asked that question, many times, with a few down the road. But still, I wouldn't recommend a doctor when when you wanna see him about anything about your health or nutrition, because some reason, they don't like to teach them health and nutrition. They just wanna give you a drug, like Lyrica or something to deal with your pain or something with diabetes. And, and and what I've told people in my family is that, change your diet seriously. And, and I know my ankles were swollen for a while. And 1 nurse was telling me 1 time well, it's funny. I met this nurse that was running from the law. And, yeah, I just met her on the beach. And, 1 day she says, I noticed your ankles are real swollen. Are you diabetic? So I looked and I said, really? I never noticed it. And, 4: I I I got a bite on this 1. Why was she running from the law? 14: Oh, let's see. I think she robbed a bank. Oh. Yeah. She was living in the government forest into or out in the government land until a bear wandered in her, in her camp. And then I met her out on the beach or out on the jetty. I'm on the Oregon Coast. And, it was funny. After that, we're kind of good friends, and then we ended up going to the casino together. Anyway but, but I really strongly suggest well, it's very few people that that really seem to get it when it comes to doctors, but I always, like, tell them is to talk to a nutritionist and, or talk and talk to your pharmacist. Because you know what? To keep that lit the okay. So I'm experiencing, sharp pain in my, not so much my right foot, but my left 1. Nerve app it's not nerve is it nerve apnea or something something similar to your foot? I know there's, a couple names for it. 3: And Neuropathy? 14: Yeah. There you go. So the pharmacist 1: is Yeah. I thought the same thing. 14: Is telling me, how much vitamin b are you taking? Well, I'm just taking the supplement, you know, the multivitamin. So, why don't you try this amount? So it takes a long time, but everybody's different. But I'm just happy that, following a good diet, and, and taking that b, I can I'm standing right now because it burns more calories than sitting, but I can sit there and and, my ankles are not swollen. I don't have the pain. It was really bad in the left, but I can push on the ball, and I can't feel no pain. But it took months, months to to get that, and changing my diet was the key thing. But, I do wanna say 1 more thing about the rest homes. It's sad that they don't keep them as clean as my mom's. I was really amazed when she was there. And and I have a feeling that's the reason why a lot of people when you're so close even when I was in school studying in the dorm area, I caught this flu, and it was so bad. But we were sneezing. We weren't washing our hands. And, but I just know since the start of the pandemic, I've never been vaccinated, and I've been around people that I could've real close, I could've caught, the the COVID. Mhmm. But I noticed now they don't the stores, they don't really keep things as clean, especially Walmart. They 4: don't. They don't. 14: And and it's all about a money thing. I know 1 owner of a grocery store. His wife's real nice, but he's real mean to people. And, and he was real mean to me too. And he's fired some of the people he's worked with and and or people he's fired in it for no reason at all. And he wouldn't even open the bathrooms up. This lady needed to use the restroom. And no. And she really needed to go. And I said, well, you might have to go to the laundromat over there. I don't even know if they even well, I'm sure they probably have a restroom, but he was so cheap. And, but now it's it's, I don't know. I don't go to that grocery store anymore, but but at least they do have, at least all the grocery stores have some wipes where you can wipe, you know, at least wipe it down. You know? And, but, you know, I I really feel for the people that, having so so complications. And, I think the the heart problem has really affected a lot of pea people's hearts with that vaccination, and, I keep thinking that could have been me. That's just all I needed. Sure. Right. Well, you guys seem to do a pretty good show on this, space. It's just going up once a week. You guys hold this, I don't know if it's always about COVID. But 4: Yeah. Every Saturday night, and it's about the COVID related crimes against humanity. And, every Saturday at 07:00, we're gonna be here. And we've been here for, what, a year now? We've been doing these almost yep. And we're gonna keep talking about it. People think it's over. It's not over. It's still happening. And there's 14: I think it's yeah. I think it's still out there. 4: Yeah. 14: But, you know, I just heard Punchbowl was the longest. I don't know where are you up there with them? I don't I 15: I don't know how 14: I heard they're the longest on Twitter. I don't know if you've heard of that space. 2: Mhmm. I haven't. 14: Punchbowl. 3: Yeah. I've heard of them, but I'm I don't know much about them. 14: I think they're the I I heard they're the longest on Twitter. 4: Oh. 14: But that's a year. That's a long time. 4: Yeah. That's great. I think we started these almost a year ago. 10: Mhmm. Well, I'm going to a year. 14: That you guys, you know, because, it's good to know. You never know when, 4: And our past our past spaces can be found on our Substack. So if anybody missed any of them, they 14: Substack. Is that like, a social media like, Facebook or 2: Sort of. Sort of. They they actually are in competition with Twitter to the degree, Elon Musk has gone to measures to, kind of deboost them on the platform. So, for example, if you link to your Substack article Mhmm. It won't have a content card like most sites will. But Oh, really? But it really it's just a newsletter sharing platform. 8: Okay. 2: And, and they have podcasting and, you know, we post our our, news Sherry Martin actually posts, she's protocol widow in the in the chat there. She posts our our newsletter very frequently at formerfeds.substack.com. We also have a CHBMP Substack where I had been cross posting all of the spaces. I'm gonna pick that up again, and we're actually gonna be starting, CHBMP podcast very soon, and and we'll be broadcasting it there. So we're looking forward to that. 14: So, do you have anything for Facebook? 4: We do. 2: Yes. Feds Foundation on Facebook. Facebook.com forward / feds foundation is the our parent org's, Facebook account, and there are several Facebook groups Gail can tell you about. 14: The only reason why I ask is because they are notorious for suppressing 4: Mhmm. 14: The conservative speech on Facebook Yeah. And Meta too. 4: Fakebook is is 14: now fakebook. 4: And we, I would love it if we didn't have to be on fakebook, but so many people are on fakebooks. So we have to be too, you know, just like other you know? But I 14: I think it's like Twitter. I don't really wanting to go to it because I don't think there's free speech, but I guess you got well, it's nice. You guys are on there. Right? 2: Yep. We're on there, but what we post on there is very limited. The and and many of our members Oh, boy. Many of our members who are on there post things frequently, post, articles about the victims, and are frequently censored and have their accounts locked for doing so. So Yeah. It is a contentious platform. It is, you know, we're in the in the territory of our adversaries, but but if you phrase things in in a politically correct way, you can kind of, you can get some things through on there. And many people are reluctant to leave Facebook. They started on Facebook a decade ago, all their friends are there, they don't want to abandon the platform. So we have to have some kind of presence there for those people, but we encourage everyone to get, you know, get off of Facebook as much as possible, get on alternative platforms like x, use the the signal messaging app, which is an encrypted end to end, messaging platform that's just, superior in most ways, and and just get off of the the censored platforms that are trying actively to undermine our mission. You know, Zuckerberg recently came out and apologized for for what he had done and so far as censoring everybody. And he is still doing it right now. 4: Yeah. I'm like I 14: believe it. 4: The day the day he apologized, I got censored for something that I posted 3 months ago. Like Oh, woah. And so I was like, not like, I have multiple I have to have multiple accounts because I'm always 2: I'm I'm That's actually that's why I quit posting on my personal x account because people were going in, finding tweets from, like, 2 years ago that violated the current TOS and reporting me for those and actually getting action on those reports. So I was like, what did they want me to do? Go back and delete my whole timeline? So I just went went quiet on there and became active on other accounts like this 1 and, you know, that I I learned a lot about how to, how to put the message out without violating the TOS, and and I have some some tips. I've I've put out about about doing that. But, but since this platform, as we know, has become a lot more tolerant of, of so called bad think, and Elon Musk frequently, boosts what they call bad think. So, and that's that's how they that's how they justify, you know, threatening him with sanctions in foreign countries, taking x offline in Brazil, etcetera. 14: You know, when Facebook first started, it was just family friends, and I have a business friend that posted his business pictures on there. But it certainly has changed, hasn't it? Boy. I can't remember when they started. Oh, man. Yeah. I'm, you know, I'm not planning on going to Facebook, unfortunately. 2: But we do have, signal group chats you can you can find on ffctf.org/chats. 15: Mhmm. 2: And, and that'll link you to our, former feds group group chat. We have a really good group that shares lots of good information every day, and I encourage everyone on the call to join us if you care to. 14: Thank you. 3: I was just gonna say, I think 1 of the biggest things right now, and and we saw this, you know, really I know that it was, it, you know, we had some of this kicking off before but it was big, you know, during COVID was, you know, this censorship of free speech. And I I think that's probably 1 of the most dangerous things that we have going on. And I I know that, you know, 1 of the reasons I say that is because look at what they did on Facebook, taking off everything for COVID. Right. You know, anything that had any kind of, you know, you know, positive for ivermectin. And and so many people were damaged because of that. So many people died and and didn't didn't need to. You know? So I I think that was 1 of the biggest things from COVID that came about was just the ramping up of the censorship that is now prevalent really, you know, through, you know, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube. I you know, you can't say the word COVID. You can't say, you know, 10: On YouTube? 3: Ivermectin. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. You get you get strikes for it. Mhmm. You know? But that it's it's crazy. You have to go through and and do some sort of funky sign language, do Sanskrit, you know, in order to to get your message across. And, you know, that's still going on. I think we just need to to really push back about it because they did it through COVID, and they're they're gonna do it they're doing it for everything else. Right? 8: I mean 14: Mhmm. Yeah. Just added sign language to my degree. 5: And and 4: that's like, all that censorship, these people are just as complicit as anything else as anyone else. Right? The media, the social media Mhmm. Anybody who who actively censored or even passively censored. You know, there's organizations, news organizations that passively censored just all of them, really, just by not not telling the stories. Right? Like 15: Mhmm. 2: Yep. I just pinned, 1 of the songs I wrote about this in the in the nets. And this song, my my husband says it brings tears to his eyes because it's the story of how how those people were killed. And in this in this story, in the song, spoiler alert, she she manages to get treatment. She manages to self administer treatment and survives. But millions of people didn't didn't know. They didn't get that information, and they they died as a result of being mistreated in in hospitals and deprived of treatment and the the incentive incentivized protocols. 4: Yeah. And that goes back to so, like, you know, people couldn't find the the information they needed to you know, and and all or or false information was put, was put out there more prevalent prevalently, like the, you know, just the rumor that ivermectin was not FDA approved, that perfect example. It's most certainly was FDA approved. 2: It's been forever. 4: Not to mention it was on the top 10 most essential and safest drugs in the world. But yet, somehow, major media and social media, were able to there there was this, propaganda effort that made people believe that suddenly regardless of all that information, that ivermectin was dangerous if you had COVID or that it was just for horses or in all FDA had to do was put out some memes. You're not a horse. Stop it. Right? And and people were like, well, that meme, that's on us. Right? Like, hey. That meme, I saw a meme that said it's for horses. Right? It's it's for horses because I saw that meme that the FDA put out. I mean They did? Really? Yeah. They they had to take it 14: down because 4: they lost in court. Right? 11: They put out 4: they put out they 15: put out 4: this, when when they were forced to take it down, actually, doctor Corey, Pierre Corey put out a meat put a meme out that said you're not a doctor. Just stop it, FD. You know? But, when when they did that, it they had it was a picture of somebody with a horse, and it said, you're not a horse. Stop. Just stop it. Right? So, so they it was that simple to trick people. You know, you just censor censor if they can't get the information, they they're gonna believe what they can get, or they're gonna be confused by the conflicting information. And then when you when you have all of their all of the doctors, for whatever reason, these doctors carried the water for the for the FDA and the other alphabet, the who and all of them. For whatever reason that they carried the water, they carried the water. And you can kinda forgive them that first 8 months, but I and that's stretching it to me. But there was enough information out there being pushed out there by courageous people that were boldly shouting and holding press conferences and getting together on the on the steps of, you know, in in in DC and doctors taking the hit. And there were so many doctors out there going, you know, that's trying to stand together, the FLCCC, just all of these groups of doctors taking this big risk that I don't know. I give them 8 months. If I wanna be generous, I would say into 2021, but that's being generous. Today, I'm hearing a lot of doctors still carrying the water, and 2: it's And making excuses for their profession. 4: Oh, yeah. And and they're and even many of the stories that protocol widows or protocol parents who lost who had a loved a child killed or whatever, a a loved anybody who had a loved 1 killed, the stories that we hear about the protocol murders, it that are in 2021, '20 '20 '2, '20 '20 '3, and now even in 2024, the thing that we hear is they they many of these had doctors or nurses that said their hands were tied. They wouldn't give this to their loved 1, but, like, you know, they're asked, you know, would you give would you give from Desiver to your loved 1? A lot of them would be like, well, you know, my hands are tied. If I can't give blah blah blah, I can't give blah blah blah. Shame on you. Shame. Shame. Shame on you. You know? And then, of course, we've heard from I I did an interview, of somebody who who their loved 1 was killed in 2022, and the doctor literally told her, oh, all of us doctors take, remdesivir prophylactically. I'm like, yeah. I would like to see that. I would like to see how they hook themselves up at night with a with a slow drip of of Remdesivir prophylactically once a week. And there's that's such bullshit. Okay. Angela's 14: So, you know, Angela has been waiting patiently, and, I was gonna say maybe she can chime in because it sounds like she might add something to this. 4: Yep. Going to Angela next. 14: Okay. Well, I worked kind of a co host once, and, it's kinda not as easy as you think. But it's it's been a learning experience. 5: Yeah. Hey, 4: guys. Hey, Angela. 8: Glad to 16: be here. I jumped down earlier because I had to do some shopping, and I didn't wanna try and, jump in between while I was in a noisy place. But, I'm glad you guys are doing this. I'm glad you're listening to people and helping people. And, you know, I am so thankful to say that I was able to keep my patients, even the chronic immune deficient ones, out of the hospitals during all of the chaos, so I didn't have any patients at the time who were subjected to, you know, the protocols. But I gotta tell you, the last few weeks have been really trying on my my nerves and my emotions, the people that are coming to me with massive clotting issues and cancers. And, you know, I I just honest to god, it's like, I just okay. How many COVID vaccines did you take? It it's becoming a standard intake question now. How many did you take, and when was your last booster? Right? It's just so hard to see what's going on, and it's sadly probably not gonna stop in terms of the number of people seeking help as a result. And, you know, my only saving grace is if it's somebody who's gonna work with me, I tell them that, you know, no more. No more. If you wanna fix what's going on, you you have to acknowledge that you can't keep doing this to your body. And, you know, that's the biggest win that I can have by helping understand that it played a role in the onset of what they're dealing with. Well, small miracles. 3: I have a question for you. This is Mick. 1 of the things that I wondered what you thought about is, the impact, and I'm I'm specifically talking about the the gene therapy bioweapon, but the impact of multigenerational effects in 5 years, 6 years. 11: Well, I 12: mean, it's a great question, 16: and and I would contend we already have a multigenerational effect from multiple generations of vaccine injury prior to now. And maybe it's some of those individuals who were more at risk of reacting to the COVID vaccine. You know? Again, we don't know why certain people were at higher risk, but we tend to see among families, whether it's parent and adult child or or even minor children or siblings adult siblings and whatnot having similar vaccine reactions. I know in 1 family of, so second marriage so not the biological parent of the adult children, but the husband has cancer. The wife had a major vaccine reaction with eye injuries, heart injuries, suspected cancer and her 30 year old son had to have a pacemaker put in. Like, I'm I it runs in families. Again, they haven't bothered to figure out why, but we know it to be true. And, 4: yes. 16: If someone is able to reproduce after they've been exposed, there is likely going to be some, immune or genetic issues, fallout, weakening. Yes. Yes. 3: Thank you. It's just a major concern, you know, especially with all of the, adverse events and, you know, it's like, what, over a 635,000 or something now. I mean, it's unreal. 4: Alright. Julie's next. Hey, Julie. 17: Hey, you guys. Thank you for the space. I'm listening out doing some yard work, but I wanted to jump up and, you know, comment on what doctor Angel was saying. It's so crazy. It's 1 of our biggest frustrations being vaccinated is that, you know, we are a clinical trial, and yet no, you know, bad insult to injury. They don't want to, you know, kind of investigate, evaluate, and build a database of, okay, here's all these vaccinated people. So, you know, what's your blood type? What were what shots did you take? What's your weight? What's your heritage? What's your race? You know, all this sort of stuff. I mean, they do collect race, by the way, in the VAR system, which they don't report on. But, anyway, so in with my, you know, my own family, it's so crazy because my mom and I and my daughter all took Moderna. So I took 2 shots of Moderna, and everything I've had go wrong is neurological. You know, the tinnitus, the lesion on the brain, the microangiopathy, and the 2 detached retinas and 5 eye surgeries. Nothing else wrong. Right? And, of course, I'm too old for menstrual disruptions, but my heart is perfectly fine. So but my mom who, you know, had no neurological problems, she took 4 shots of Moderna and is a died suddenly sudden cardiac event. Literally, her death certificate says sudden cardiac event. The woman had nothing, you know, no other underlying conditions at all. She's, you know, healthy weight. I'm more overweight maybe in the scale of things. So and then my daughter who's in her, you know, late twenties took 3 shots in Moderna because she's a health care worker. And so far, she's had nothing wrong. Now I worry about the menstrual issues because I think her HPV shot in eighth grade, was the cause of a lot of her ovarian cyst, you know, painful periods and this, that, and the other. So and she hasn't been at the point where she wants to try to have kids, but that's what I pray for every day is healthy ovaries for her. But, yeah, it's really crazy. I'm like, I'm 3 generations of Moderna. I want Steven Ben sells, you know, head on a platter. And, you know, Moderna doesn't get enough criticism or PR like Pfizer tends to. But, yeah, for my family, we are all 3 completely different beings of vaxx injured, and we're all Moderna, you know, victims. So I just wanted to add that to the mix. And, again, I enjoy you guys so much. You're so much, of an inspiration for me and a source of comfort even though it's bizarre. Right? It's, like, surreal. Like, we're sitting here on a Twitter space talking about hospital homicide and vaccine murder. And I'm literally in my backyard doing my yard work living next door to an Enloe doctor, which, you know, you probably could hear me. And I'm like, don't what are you doing over there? Because they got the marching orders, the doctors. You talk bad about these shots, you get fired. Literally, I see the memo. So, you know, it's kinda hard not living next door to a doctor now. Anyway, but, yeah, I just wanna jump up and add that to the mix. 4: Thanks, Julie. Okay. Next, I believe, is fringe. Fringe. 11: Hi. Yeah. My name is Ashley Flynn. I I'm fringe because I was 1 of those fringe minorities of Trudeau's. But, I just wanna say, first of all, I really appreciate the fact that you're all on here and speaking about this. And it alarms me that there aren't more of us talking. I mean, it's great that we're all here, but it's like, why are there not more people yet? And addressing the the the point about censorship, because 1 of the things I'm dealing with every day is that, you know, they did such a tremendous sigh up on all of us that now, well, you know, like, they don't yes. They're still doing it, but in large measure, they don't have to do it because everybody's censoring themselves except the likes of ourselves who are willing to speak up. I mean, I was much more forward at the beginning, but, you know, that was to no avail. That was just shutting down. I mean, it didn't stop me, but, you know, now I mean, like, my partner and I were out today. I met 2 people, new people today. And both of those people, if 1 of the first things that and and and it wasn't even broaching the subject. It they were just bringing it up themselves saying, oh, they can't march anymore. 1 has arterial fibrillation. And then another woman I'm standing beside in in a line waiting to pay for some groceries, she's obviously having a hard time in apologizing. She's just physically struggling. I says, no. It's all good. No worries. Take your time. And then she says, it's just 1 of those days. And so, like, what I'm trying to do to kind of broach the subjects is like, well, you know, there's a lot of these days now. In fact, I would say, you know, these days kinda started about maybe 4 years ago in a sort of joking way, and, you know, that seems to open things up. But when I said that to her, she just started to cry. She goes, oh gosh. You know, my husband, he just died just nearly 3 years ago. And I'm thinking to my head, oh, well, that was about 8 months after they rolled out the you know what. And and so I'm just trying to find these ways to broach the subject. When we were speaking to someone who was delivering something for us the other day there, He approached the subject very tentatively about someone we both know that has died. And I says, well, there's a lot of that going on these days. A lot of people getting really sick. And he said, oh, yeah. You know, this you know, you you gotta watch what you say. I said, well, you don't need to watch what you say to me. They're like, lay it all out. And then, you know, he's from the area, and, I'm not from the area. So and this was a smaller village. I live in a couple of places, but this was in a small village. And, and so he knows, like, his ears are out there. Like, people talk to him. He said, all the people who died, all the people who are sick. I mean, we see it ourselves, but it's like again, it's just another example, like, trying to broach and open up the conversation because people are so good at, at censoring themselves now because they're afraid. Anyway, I just thought I would say that, and and just to get feedback from anyone who might want to chip in and and and tell me what their experiences are, share what their experiences are, and and and thoughts that they have in terms of growth, changing the conversation. Because I just think, like like, there's not enough people. Like, I mean, I'm just I'm so frustrated. I'm so I'm outraged and, like and I want justice. Anyway, I know we all must feel that way. I hope you're all hearing me. I've been banging on here, so I'll I'll leave it there. Yeah. 10: What do you think they're afraid of? 11: Well, I, you know, I I think a lot of them are afraid of the government. Like, some of them know, and they don't wanna say, and they also they don't wanna be snitched on. I I've heard that 1 as well. We were out for lunch with some people that, you know, who who are certainly on the other side of the fence, except for 2 that won't say anything in front of them. And, it's like and and and we know that they know now. Like, we got cards printed out with the, national citizens inquiry. I don't know if you're familiar with that in Canada. And, like, they were laying all out because it was, a citizen's run. And, you know, they don't wanna know. But what I would say in part is, like, I think they're afraid of the government. And, of course, they went through this whole thing of of being, isolated. We were isolated. We were kicked out at every possible event in the village that we lived in. My voice is it sounds like I'm crackling here. I don't know if you can hear me. But, and and also, I think for some people, like, they they want it to go away. They they they're hoping it's not real. I think maybe with some people, it's conscience. I think there's a whole plethora of things, but, that that's what I think. What what do you think? 10: I think people need to stop being afraid and speak the truth. Absolutely. Yeah. Because I think I don't think there's a lot to be afraid of. 4: I mean, I mean I 10: think it's in our minds. 4: I agree. I agree. You know? And even though we're even if you're afraid, still do. Right? Like, 10: Yes, Gail. I understand that. Go ahead. 4: Yeah. Like, it's, you know, that that's what courage is. Right? Even though you're afraid, you still do what you need to do. It's not it's okay to be afraid. It's just we gotta people have to not be cowardly. Right? There's a big difference. You can be super afraid and still act. And and if everybody acts together, we're stronger that way. We're stronger. You know, it's like I was saying last night about beating them, you know, beating the mandate at work. Right? Because because 19,000 people held the line, we were able to defeat it. But if everybody cowered Mhmm. It it wouldn't have worked. 10: I agree. I I, I just don't think there's as much to be afraid of as people 4: I agree. 10: Are thinking. 4: I agree. 11: What are 4: they gonna do what are they gonna do to us? I mean, like, in America, the I mean, I do get it. Like, in in other countries, there's there can be like, but in in America, we have to be able to take back our country and stand up. I mean 10: I just still say I don't think there's as much to be afraid of as people think. 4: Yeah. I agree. 3: You know? And fear is the big motivator. Right? That's what they want, you know, so that people will, you know, say whatever needs to be done, please do to take away the pain. That's right. You know? So it's 10: To me to me, what more could they do? They kill my husband. 6: Mhmm. So, you 10: know? Mm-mm. Yeah. What what else have I got to be afraid of? 4: That's right. I I 11: totally agree, and I'm very sorry for your loss that you killed my crazy son. And, and and, like, we're we've we've gone past that. We're not afraid. And, like, that's why we're in this space, you know, and it's like and and I I I I've said in many ways to different people, but it it still doesn't seem to break through. 10: Yeah. I don't 16: Have you guys seen the interview that just came out a couple days ago, Del Big Tree with Brett Weinstein? Not yet. Oh my gosh. I'll pin it in the room. Guys, I've been studying this issue for 33 years since my daughter's accident injury, And this is the best, most scientific, but made to be able to understand it discussion 11: that 16: I have ever heard. Brett Weinstein woke up and woke up in a very big way and is explaining the whole mechanism of everything. It it is amazing. I'll I'll pin it in the room. 3: He was just in a space, with, I guess, several people. And, I mean, he was really, really going to town, and every time he talks, it's it's fascinating. You know? So I I I look forward. Thank you for putting that in the nest. 11: I heard the 1, with some and Joe Rogan, and, and he just recently had that discussion with Joe Rogan. So I I would be interested to see if they dovetail. I I would imagine they would. 16: This one's even better. I listened to that 18: 1. 0, okay. 11: Yeah. Cool. Thank you. 14: Mhmm. 11: Wow. I mean, I don't know. I I just find my, my my head boggles every day. I mean, it's just every day is like digesting this whole thing. Anyway, I'll sign out now. I don't wanna take too much time. I appreciate the time. Thank you, everyone. Thank you for listening, and and thank you for holding the line. And I'm sorry for everyone's pain and suffering and loss. It's just yeah. 4: Thanks, and god bless. Next is, protocol widow and then Mary Madeline. So protocol widow. 6: Okay. Testing. Testing. Can you hear me? 2: Loud and clear. 4: Sound great. 3: Roger Wilco. 6: Yeah. Give it time. I'm sure you'll be like, mute yourself now. 4: Okay. So hurry. No. I'm just kidding. 6: Hurry up. Say something so we can get rid of you. Couple things. I was listening to you guys talk about the censorship on various social media, and, I got really angry with this guy that I like to listen to. My grandson introduced him to me, and he's kind of a survival, medically very intelligent for trauma medicine. He's not a doctor. He must have had EMT training or something at some point, and he's a minister. Gail, you would like this guy. So, he does this thing on Friday mornings, and I didn't listen to it till this morning. And the Friday morning thing is anybody who's seen anything in The United States that looks a little bit suspicious, but you saw it. Not your sister-in-law, not your best friend's cousin, whatever. You saw it happen. So he does this reading this thing, and he's reading a a letter from a guy who says, I live in Northern Florida. And last Friday night, my wife's father was ill. The man did not elaborate on ill, and they went to the emergency room. And while in there, the nurse was bringing out a hypodermic needle, and I believe this guy is the 1 who's on top of it because he's like, what are you bringing? What is that? Oh, well, this is just the the COVID vaccine. He he's not up to date. And he was like, woah. No. You're not. We are not vaccinating him. No. He would not and she just looked really perturbed and stomped off. So then they came back, and he wasn't in the room, and they hung the remdesivir. We're in the ER last Friday night, a week ago last night. And Gail knows this, Chelsea knows this, but for anybody who's on this call who didn't realize that, yes. So, apparently, the wife says to her husband, well, they've they're giving dad some medicine, and we're gonna see how he's doing. What is he getting? Well, they said it's remdesivir. Get him off that. Made her sign him out AMA. He's doing fine. They got him out of the hospital. So this is why everybody needs to be on top of what is going on when you're in the hospital. Now I say this because then I got angry because this guy that I like to watch, he passed right past it. He read it and went right to the next thing, never made a comment about it. And initially, I was, like, really ticked. And then I realized, you know what? He just read COVID and remdesivir in the same letter, and he's liable to get a strike on his channel, and he's already 2 strikes down. So he's not gonna sit there and have a conversation with his audience about what any of this means if he knows. Believe me, by the time he gets my letter, somebody's gonna know. But, there you go. That's the censorship. I know he's already censored. They have to be really careful. But, I kinda wanted to talk about for other people who are on this call who are not part of this community or you're kind of, like, on the fringes of the community and you're not really sure what happened. We're entering the third fall. 3 years ago, they told us we were getting ready to go into the dark winter of the unvaccinated, and that's where we are right now. Now a lot of it started actually in the in the summertime. I personally feel like maybe and Adam's on this call. He may argue against me. I personally feel like there's a a possibility that the the onslaught of the vaccines mixing with the COVID that was already in the population may have changed the so called virus so that that's where we got Delta from, And that's part of the reason why everything got so bad in the late summer and fall and winter of 21. And right now, on Monday, I am going to be having my third anniversary of sending my husband by ambulance to the hospital. In October will be 3 years. Some things that people who don't know what happens in the hospitals. My husband actually got treated. Huckleberry himself would argue this point. My, my husband didn't get treated horrendously bad. He I to my knowledge, he was not mistreated. It's possible he could have been because the first week, he was a big man, and he was a tough guy. We we lost a lot of really good men, to COVID to the COVID protocols, but he couldn't hear her shit. He could not hear anything. He had about half hearing in his left ear, and, he couldn't see without his his reading glasses, the kind that you buy at the CVS. That's all he needed. And so he's in the hospital, and everybody that is walking up to him, you know, it's taken me a while to get to this point, is wearing, you know, the the paper napkins. And they've got masks on their faces, and they've got shields over their faces. And so I know that they were difficult to hear under good circumstances, and anybody that's been in an ICU can tell you it's extremely noisy. You've got, you know, machines and air and doors and people, and it's just noisy all the time. And and he his hearing was such that in a in a crowd of people where there's a lot of background noise, he couldn't pick out the a conversation. So 4: he 6: he couldn't see to to type up a a letter or, you know, send a text or anything like that. And he couldn't hear, so he couldn't, like, watch anything on his phone with all the noise. And he probably couldn't tell what people were saying to him much if they were describing anything. And is anybody hearing me right now, or am I frozen? 4: No. We haven't heard any we hear you. 6: Okay. Alright. I'm I'm watching my screen, and and my the little lines next to my speaker is they're not moving. And I thought, I've been talking for 5 minutes, and nobody knows I'm here. So he couldn't wear his glasses. He couldn't look at his phone because he's wearing a BiPAP. He couldn't hear people, and I'm not calling him. Because I was afraid that if I called him, I might interrupt a treatment. And I didn't wanna take a chance he was with a doctor or having a treatment and that I would be interrupting and it would be a problem. So I didn't call him. I let him call me, and then he I couldn't understand him because he was on the BiPAP. Of course, then I get his medical records, and when I finally am able to read them, I find out he got no treatments. He got remdesivir, which I told the doctor when he went in not to give him. He got remdesivir. That's it. They kept him on that 6 milligrams of dexamethasone that he was taking before he went in, and he didn't eat. Day 5, the nutritionist says, we need to talk about nutrition. But they don't give him respiratory treatments. Gail can attest to that. There are no respiratory. The people are going in without with a breathing. Nowadays, it's probably not nearly as bad. You're going to get it, but I don't think it's gonna be as bad as it was during Delta. But they didn't treat them. They didn't do anything for them. And I remember when I did talk to him, he was always thirsty. He was asking for water, not just of me, but of the nurse because the nurse had to actually be in the room when he talked to me so that she could, translate. And my husband was from a family of 10 kids. So he was always talking to someone as an adult. Didn't matter where he was going. He as soon as that truck started up, the phone was on and he was talking to somebody, or he had to have somebody riding shotgun wherever he went. He had to have somebody to talk to. And so for the last week that he was conscious, he had no 1, and I didn't know. I knew that I couldn't talk to him. I didn't know that nobody was taking care of him. And I begged with them every day, twice a day, like a good little girl, because I kept thinking, I don't wanna take a chance. That if I throw a temper tantrum or push too hard, they're going to take it out on him in some way. And I had no reason to believe that that was gonna happen. But now I hear all the other stories of people who found out that their loved ones were basically punished because the family became pushy. And I just knew deep down I didn't wanna do that. I didn't wanna take a chance that I would be pushy and they might ignore him and not take care of him. And, I didn't know that they started drugging him. I mean, I remember the conversation the first night. Well, he's he's a little anxious, so we're gonna give him a little a little Ativan to help him calm down. I didn't know that that went on regularly the entire time, I didn't realize he went in on Thursday and on Tuesday night, they called me and they want to vent him. And I had and she at least let me talk to him and that he had knocked off his c his BiPAP mask, and his oxygen went down, and they wanted to vent him right away. So he he they get he gets a mask back on, and he's trying to talk to me. And he calmed down, and she called me back, and she said, we we don't we don't have to vent him. He he understands he needs to keep the mask on. 8: And, 6: I did not know that when they decided that they were gonna vent him that night, they started giving him PresidEx. So when I went to see him the following night on Wednesday night, they let me in because some other people had had won the right to see their loved ones, and he didn't know who I was. Now I put it down to the fact that I was dressed like any nurse with the wrappings on and the face mask and the visor. And so but he didn't know me when I came in, and he he seemed so tired, and he was slurring. And I was thinking how how much this was taken out of him. Did not realize that he was being dehydrated. I had no clue that he had not eaten. I didn't know he was taking 2 sedatives at 1 time. And then the following morning, they decided they need to vent him, and they called me to tell me, and they have me come in. And my husband is worse than he was the night before, much more debilitated. And they tell me that he's already agreed to the event. And I was horrified, and I'm like I was asking him, are you sure we talked about this? You you and I talked about this. No. Neither 1 of us wanted to go on the vent. And he said he nodded. He's holding the the the the BiPAP mask to his face so it doesn't slip. And he nodded, and he said just for a a couple of days. And they had me sign for the vent. That's pretty damn slick, don't you think? Because they got him to agree to be on the vent while he was debilitated without food and very little water and Ativan and Presadex, he was on at that time, and they got me to sign the approval for the vent. And for anybody on this phone call who doesn't know, Presadex is used to prepare someone for surgery. It's to help calm them. But the insert in the box on Presadex tells the medical professionals not to give it to the patient for more than 24 hours because it will cause acute respiratory distress syndrome. And they had him on from Tuesday night until Thursday morning when they had me come in. 2 days later, his kidneys are starting to show distress, and we need to use dialysis. Of course, you do. You gave him the remdesivir, I told you, would destroy his kidneys. But what can I do now but let them do it? Everybody knows that that doesn't last for long. He hung on for just over 2 weeks as everything just continued to cascade away. But that's what they do to these patients, and that's what they do to these families. And my situation is not nearly as bad as what some of the other hospitals have done. And until we can tell our stories in public, on video, in a congressional hearing, whether it's state or federal, And I wanna look these assholes in the eye who signed the CARES Act and who continue to hide behind the CMS and their own paperwork. And I've got coyotes in the background. I'm gonna lose my dogs are gonna lose their stuff. They need to know what they've done because all they had to do was incentivize patients living. They never gave money to a hospital because the patient lived. They only paid those bonuses if they died, and they held them hostage. And Gail and I talked about this last night on not necessarily on the space, but during the space. We have a new term in the American lexicon that we didn't have 3 and a half, 4 years ago. It's called hospital rescue. 4: Yep. 6: Who the hell ever thought that we would have a term like hospital rescue? Exactly. Amen. 4: And it it's crazy that we have to say that. Crazy. And you hit on such a great point. The incentives the incentives, you got paid to do things they got paid big money to do things that were damaging to patients, and if your patient died, you got more. They didn't pay people they didn't pay hospitals and doctors bonuses if their patients lived. And and that's so telling. That is like putting a bounty on like, each 1 of us went into that prison that that hospital. 6: Prison. You're right. It it was a prison. That was that was perfectly yeah. Prison was right. 4: Yeah. With a bounty. 3: With a 4: bounty on our head. 10: It is a family. 4: I am Yep. It was a medical matrix we couldn't get out of once we were in. 6: Nope. Nope. And, and and and only people who come to a space like this understand some of what happened, but the incentives were structured so that the hospital got a bonus because they isolated the patient. What else did that what what did isolation do? First of all, you've got a patient who generally comes in with a spouse or a loved 1. Both of them have been exposed to each other. Sometimes both of them are sick. They enter the hospital and they're immediately separated and they're not allowed to see each other. And if 1 leaves, they're not allowed to see their surviving spouse in the other room that's down the hall. They don't even know that. And they isolated. What what was the other thing that it did outside of dehumanizing the patient that's in the hospital? It also meant that the the family member who was never allowed to be in the hospital didn't get to form any kind of friends who were going through the same kind of event in that waiting room. Therefore, they wouldn't have somebody that they could come in commiserate with and call later or invite to their church and learn from each other about what was happening in the hospital. We weren't supposed to find each other on social media. They forgot about social media. 4: Thrust you into it thrust the family into this state of chaos where they didn't know what was going on and couldn't make the proper decisions because they only had second and third hand information because they didn't have that communication. And I can say from from the inside out that the the isolation was very difficult because once they isolate you, this was my this is what I hear from all the survivors. Once they isolate you, they dehumanize you, and then they strip away. It's all designed to strip away hope. They they immediately try to crush any hope you have, and hope is huge when you're trying to survive. And then, systematically, everything that they do is designed to harm you and not help you from that moment forward. And you everything's just so crazy, and there's this there I mean, it's yeah. It's it's and the incentives the fact that they put incentives in and after they gave them immunity is 8: Yes. 4: Like, there's not 1 person in government that can put their hand on the good book on the bible and and say they weren't part of what happened. They need, even if they didn't understand the consequences, they understand now, and they have an obligation to hold to hold these people accountable. But some of them are their peers, so they won't. 6: Yeah. Now it's interesting that some of them I can think of 1 right off the top of my head. They lost family members by their own hand, basically. And and they have to live with that. But there are people who we could really use in our movement who have big megaphones, who refuse to speak. And that's why we sit here on Saturday nights talking to what would normally be strangers, and now they've become our friends because they've all heard us talking about this, and now they understand. But what you need to remember is, in the beginning of the whole COVID debacle in the hospitals, the nurses and the doctors who've realized that they had no control, they could not get around the system, they thought they could work within the system and they could save people, and it wouldn't allow them to, They left. They decided to get outside the system and do what they could outside the system. These were your critical thinkers, so they left the hospitals, and then the shots came, And that's when the the critical thinkers who thought they were gonna be able to stick around, the last of them moved on, and they found another way outside the system. So then you ended up with people like we have on our spaces, the nurses who got injured, and then they could not work anymore. And they weren't able to come in and help. They couldn't work. They're alienated now. They could they're everything is everything in their life has totally been destroyed, and they can't work. So who's left? They're usually the ones that are really good at orders. They take orders. They'll do whatever they're ordered to do. Keep your head down. Just go to and from work, and they're gonna do what they gotta do. And maybe they are good nurses as far as their care or their experience goes. Maybe they aren't. And then who comes in behind them but the newbies? And guess who's training the newbies on the floors? The ones who are keeping their heads down and just getting through the day. This is why you can't leave your family members in a hospital. 4: You know, my husband would say, of course, like, you know, he would say if the nurse is putting her head down and following orders, she she or he ain't a good nurse. So 6: No. And, Linda, that's what I mean. The ones that are left behind are probably the ones that the critical thinkers carried them through the day Right. All the time anyway, and they were the ones left behind. 10: I have to agree with Huckleberry a %. Yeah. We were we were taught nursing school, you know, to think. 4: Yeah. 10: So I don't know what's going on, but, yeah, there's something wrong there. 4: Yeah. And I 10: agree with it. 4: And I think you could attest to that, Catherine, that, like, even back back then, the the hospitals were were becoming full of nurses who would just follow orders. They I mean, the health care system didn't just fall apart when, the pandemic hit. 3: No. It started way before that. I can tell you that back in, it it really started back in 02/2008. Once they passed Obamacare, they put so many things in place. They started with electronic medical records to gather all of our data. All the data that was put in, they wanted to put 1 major system in place. Now they haven't gotten to that point, but a lot of people use Epic, and they're trying to get Epic to be the number 1. But, you know and then after that, it was very soon after they rolled out the electronic medical records that they started putting in all the cultural diversity and then the the DEI, and and that's just straight up true. And I can tell you I graduated in 1994. In 1994, everything was still patient centric. You had a duty to do no harm. You were told, listen. You protect those patients, and I can remember throwing myself over the bodies of patients because the newbie doctor would come in, and they'd order something. You'd be like, ho ho cup there, big daddy. You know? I mean, that's not right. You know? You can't do that. And, and and then once they started rolling in all this DEI, it it settled in and it became about social justice. They became social warriors, and it and it really destroyed health care. And I don't know what they're teaching them in in a lot of the clinics, you know, that we had to do clinicals. But I can tell you that I have many friends that are nursing instructors, and they have told me, you know, it's it's not like when we were in nursing school and you did, you know, care plans and you were kinda held accountable and you could expect that if you didn't get your work done, the nursing instructor was gonna be on top of you. Now it's kinda like, well, let's sit down and everything's okay, and how do I make it better for you? And and that that's very destructive because you've taken away that critical thinking and that ability to say, okay. You need to you need to make sure that you're safe and and effective in your care. 4: Mhmm. I know people 2: And the opiate crisis was also simultaneously ruled out alongside all those other things where the supposed opiate crisis that prompted doctors to start depriving pain patients of life saving medication and kind of in your in your doctors to the suffering of their own patients. And I think that's when that really laid a lot of the groundwork for for what they did during COVID with just outright murdering people. 4: You know what would be a great idea, like, if the I mean, this is crazy, but, like, what if the what if the government just got out of the health care business and let doctors and patients kinda work together? 2: Well, then how can we have health care for all, Gail? 4: True. True. I don't know what I'm thinking. 3: And get the lobbyists out of there because there are some of the big ones. Hospitals and pharmacies have gone up in their use of, monies, to to lobby the legislators. It went up 70 percent. 70 percent. 4: But soon enough I mean, 3: it's unreal. 4: If the government was out of health care, if the government if the federal government was put back in its place and was out of the things it shouldn't be in and only in the things that are that it was set up to do, you wouldn't have lobbyists that gave a damn about that because there would be no nobody to lobby. Right? They would have to compete. They would have to compete for, hey. We're the best hospital. Right? We're the best. You know? People would give a damn about where the they people would go and spend their money and become patients where they got the best results, not where they, you know, not just incentivize everybody to kill. Like, the government just needs to be the government needs to be completely out of it. 3: 100%. 2: And the lawyers need to get into it. The lawyers are slacking and are are failing huge groups of people who are desperate for legal remedies, and our next guest can speak to them. 4: But it's not just the lawyers because that's really the courts too. The courts Right. 2: I misspoke. It's it's the whole justice system is is absolutely in you wanna say it's incompetent, but it's really it's corrupt to its core. 4: Yeah. Yeah. 1: I I guess I I could speak to that. It's Charlene. 2: Hi, Charlene. I'm so glad you're able to come on and tell us what's happening with you, and I'm so sorry. 10: Hi, Charlene. 1: Hi. 3: Hi, Charlene. 1: Hi. It's difficult to talk about For some that don't know, 8: you 1: know, in '22, I lost my stepfather in the hospital, and my mom is a survivor. And they tortured her for, you know, over 30 days. And, you know, you know, they did the same thing with my stepdad and, you know, with all the drugs. And they restrained him for basically the whole time he was in, which was 9 days. They confirmed they gave him a flu shot while he was on a ventilator. Go figure. At midnight, you know, they're giving him a flu shot, and he never ever got a flu shot. My mom, you know, they kept the water, and, there's a lot of other extra things that, they did and they didn't do. You know, she went into the hospital. They didn't give her fluids for 24 hours. And then they gave her, like, maybe 2 bags, and then, you know, they were keeping, like, drinking water from her and food. She lost, over 20 pounds in the 30 days. And, you know, at 1 point, they had her restrained for 11 hours. And I have confirmation, which I recently found that, there were, like, 3 or 4 other days that they had restrained her. And I only have 2 documents, that show the dates, and I there's no logs. I don't know. They kept them from me. I don't know. You know, maybe it was, like, a mistake to, you know, show that, you know, she was restrained and they were maybe trying to hide it. I don't know. But I wouldn't put it past them. And, so, you know, my mom, when she was restrained for that time, 11 hours, you know, the nurse kept going in the room. Her lips are blue after hours of saying she's delirious. And I'm gonna just cut this really short, about what happened to them. You know, my my mom, you know you know, she was delirious. Lips were blue. Respiratory came. The nurse is in and out. The doctor comes in the room. And then, hours, like, 8 later, or 6, physical therapy found her oxygen unplugged from the wall. And, and at that same time that my mom was restrained, they gave they gave her a shot of Ativan. So she was both restrained and, given, Ativan. So the doctor was cruel. They broke HIPAA and, revealed that my stepdad was on a ventilator and that he wasn't doing well because I was their medical POA. And I gave them instructions not to, tell my mom, you know, that bad news. And, then later on, he died. They filed a ethics complaint. They wanted me to tell her. And if I didn't, they were gonna tell her. And just so much freaking bullshit. Shit that that they should be in freaking jail for, and I have had it. 10: That's insane, Charlene. 1: And recently, my stepdad's case got dismissed. They're so corrupt in the courts. And I know that with my stepdad, we we submitted, you know, because they were objecting to the affidavit of merit and, of course, you know, pulling the immunity. And, we opposed their objection to the affidavit. And, the judge, you could I I know he already signed off on it before the deadline and, because he checked off unopposed. So it was opposed, and they checked they're just doing what they want. And my mom's hasn't come back yet, but I'm pretty sure her it's gonna get dismissed. And I can't break it to her. I mean, I can't even 10: Yeah. It's like you have to live it relive it again. 1: Yeah. It's it's crushing. 3: Yeah. 1: These people it's like not even that these are things that I believe. These are facts that are in the medical record that they didn't even care, to hide. Yes. My I have a 3 minute audio of that time when they gave her the Ativan and and all of that. And, you know, there's crimes, you know, going on in that audio against my mother. I mean, how could somebody not take that and run with it? I mean, it's it's the the Democrats I'm I'm in New Jersey, and the Democrats are are are making this political because there's so much hate that because my folks weren't vaccinated. I know that that's why they got tortured, even more and, because I got lectured. And the nurse basically said that, you know, my folks deserve what they were getting. But but 10: I can't even imagine even let alone thinking that, saying that to somebody. 1: Yeah. Well, he did. And, you know, they the next day, my stepdad died and, you know, I they hate them to death, and I feel like all of that was a warning shot because then I had my mom left. But this whole thing with the court system is is a freaking disgrace that that they can play with giving people drugs that that that without approval from the person in charge of their health care because he couldn't do it. He was on a ventilator from day 1, and there's no document, you know, about the ventilator or about anything and you know? I mean, I knew that they were gonna vent him, but they didn't tell me. They didn't they didn't tell me. And you know what? He really didn't need to be on a freaking ventilator. 10: No. They definitely should have brought it by you. That's just been forever medicine. 4: That's in the you but you hit it on the right on the head. Right? Like, the unnecessary aspect of the ventilators, which we see as a in a, common place in medical records where it's documented that people were put on freaking ventilators for behavioral control, not because they needed it. Right. The ventilators in and of themselves I mean, it it's a gas exchange issue, not a pump more oxygen oxygen issue. That's how Huckleberry knew that they were trying to kill me because of how they were using oxygen. And it's it's absolutely a disgrace what's happened with you because you you literally have certain crimes certain crimes in the record and on accidental recording, like your mom your mom begging for water, the use of restraint the illegal use of restraints Right. And the doctor threatening her with like, the 1: It it's unbelievable. And and the thing of it is is my mom's case is a little different in the in in that there were there was elder abuse. 4: Yes. 1: You know, it's a you know, they they assaulted her by injecting her with the Ativan and her being straight. And you can hear in the audio, there's no freaking way, you know, like, in in the vitals, you know, they were, like, documenting that she was drowsy and she was quiet. And then here, they're writing notes in another place where she's battling. Well, I'm sorry. If you're sitting in your urine and your poop, you're wet, you're cold, You wanna get out of your gowns. You got blood clots in your nose. You can't freaking breathe. That's why you keep taking the oxygen off. I mean nightmare. It's it's a nightmare. And my mom is suffering so bad with PTSD from from all this. And it's not even a half. I have a 95 page report that I a summary that I wrote up, the elder abuse, the battery. You know, oh my god. I mean, it's just it it's beyond 4: And here's the thing. If your mom had gone into the hospital for anything prior to the pandemic, if they if the diagnosis did not say COVID on it 1: Right. 4: This would have been something that would have gone through the courts. It would have people would have lost their jobs. People would have ever I mean Right. The elder abuse in and of itself would have been investigated to the umth degree. But but because there was COVID and you hit you hit the nail on the head when you said they were tortured because because of the, not taking the jab. Right? Like, they our government and our media all worked so hard to make 16: people tortured because they either had Medicare 4: or insurance. Just hate people who didn't like, the you know, like, literally hate us. 1: Like, she she came in with altered mental status, and it's documented that she was dehydrated. Okay. So where's the fluids? She had a UTI that was documented. Where's the antibiotic? Never gave her an antibiotic until the seventeenth day she was in the hospital. And it's she's delirious, delirious. And and and, Gail, you know, my mom you know, they were saying that, she's she's primarily speaks Spanish. My mom doesn't speak Spanish. They were measuring her stomach in the hospital. My mom, when she came home, was going they kept measuring my stomach. So the doctor was saying it doesn't look right. And I'm going, well, what did they what did they say? She goes, I don't know. And so I looked all through medical records. I threw 11 11 times, 12, probably 17 at this point. But, and then and then she had all this, like, subu suprapubic pain. There there was all these different things. And then, oh, where it had adult pain assessment, underneath, it had, neo, nips. So So for the the baby pain assessment, and it was documented cry, and then the baby wasn't crying. And then there's a diagnosis that my a 75 year old woman 4: And they 1: diagnosis was happening due to failed terminated pregnancy. What the hell is going on in the hospital? Dang. 3: Wow. Yeah. 5: I it 1: was I can't remember. There's, like, 1 or 2 other things. I'll go so now my mom has always been worried about her roommate. Oh. She remembers them coming in, and she said there was, like, 5 of them. And then she wasn't there anymore. So my mom's like, I wonder if they killed her. I wonder if she was the 1 that had the failed pregnancy because guess what? My mom was on the mother baby floor. Now it was probably some overflow for COVID, but she was on the mother baby. 4: That doesn't make sense. Why the hell would you okay. Of all places 8: Yeah. 4: Of all of all places 1: Mother baby. 4: Why like, oh, where should we we have we have why would 10: Yeah. Let's put the COVID patients on the pregnancy. Yeah. 3: Dear infectious doesn't make any sense. 4: Right. Do you have any delivery floor. Doctor. Dear infectious disease department, where should we put the overflow of COVID patients? I know. Let's put them on the on the baby on the labor and delivery floor where the babies and the mothers are. Oh, yeah. That's a great idea. 1: Let's put the gray haired 75 year old woman on the mother baby floor. 10: Yeah. That's sick. 1: They they were doing all this. Her her vagina was swollen. God only knows what the hell they did to her. 4: Oh my gosh. 1: Yeah. So, I mean, like so there's all these things. Right? So my thing I wonder, did they even ever go in the room? And that's why they were mischarted. I don't know. But, yeah. So so, you know, I've I've talked to all these attorneys, and I appreciate you letting me talk because I feel a little bit better getting it out because I've been sulking 4: for date. Yeah. 1: But so no attorneys. Nobody nobody can help because, you know, Brad got swamped. Yeah. All in cases. It's like all all 8 cases came pouncing down on him. And that that you could tell that the scumbag attorneys, and I'm I'm not saying all of them are, but these particular people are. And they all from different health systems, you know they came together and said, okay. Let's slaughter this attorney that's trying to do the right thing. And, and by the way, I'm not telling my mom right now. I have to wait and see because they're you know? Well, I don't know. But so nobody. I've reached out to friends, and you guys know, like, know I'm, like, politically involved. I freaking know everybody. I have been in a phase I mean, I don't know everybody, but I know a lot of people. I've been in their faces for the last a few years, and I've been telling them, telling them, telling them, and it's never the right time. Right? Now I I recognize, okay, we got this general election coming. Right? But I'm just gonna give you an example. Right? So so well, 2 examples. I met this guy. He's a journalist, and I respect him, both of them. I respect this 1 guy. His name is Lou Rosiak, and he's busted a lot of this, of the, you know, like, the the the guy whose daughter was raped in Virginia. Remember? And they sent they sent the guy to another school, and he raped a girl in the other school, and so he was at the meeting. So but he's a really good reporter. So I I went into this thing, and, you know, I was listening because I wanna learn how to investigate and research and all FOIA reports and stuff. So I'm talking to so he's talking. At the end, he's saying something about he mentioned about the COVID stuff, and he had a friend that was affected. And he said, you know, I tried to do something, but, you know, I'm told that that was 4 years ago. So when I talked to him later after that, I said it's not 4 years ago. I said, this happened to my my parents 2 years ago, and it's still happening now. Anyway, he gave me his card. I'm gonna talk to him, but he was honest with me. They're not gonna listen to you right now. So then I see an old friend, not really a friend, John Solomon. Mhmm. 1 of my favorite guys. And, yes, I am gonna bash him because he's a freaking lied to my face. So he he came to New Jersey. Him and I met. I gave him my car. We had a short conversation. You know? I promise I'll call you. Doctor's gonna call you. Blah blah blah. I see him in DC A Couple Weeks ago, and him and I are in the same circles. Right? So he sees me around, and and so I went up to him like, John. I said, hi, Charlene. He goes, I know. I remember you, you know, in Jersey, in the hospital, whatever. I said, oh, I said, well, I never got a phone call from Jackie. And he goes, well, he gave me a story about that. And he goes, I said, can I have a business card? And he said, oh, I don't have any. I said, isn't that funny? He said the same thing to me last time. And he said, I'll I promise I'll text you when I get upstairs because everybody was kinda, you know, part ways. He never freaking text me. He lied right to my face. And from the other part of the conversation, I knew that what he did, he's got a keyword now. Right? That Jackie is probably not a real Jackie. Like, it I I am so pissed at him that that this is all gonna come back to him someday. But these media folks are not doing the right thing. And quite honestly, I think that, you know, between them, you you know, and the hospitals and the attorneys, like I mean, I have to heal from this because this has broken me, and I have to figure out how to clear my head and not be this emotional. 19: See, this is You know? 1: And I'm gonna not gonna stop. But I'm gonna cause them heartburn after the election if they don't do the right thing. 4: This is the thing that we're always talking about. Right? Like like, there's so many people that need to stand up, that they just need to freaking stand up and and be morally courageous. We we have there are so many family members like yourself, few survivors, but mostly, you know, people who've had the the closest people to them, whether it's a child, a a spouse, a parent, a brother, a sister murdered in these hospitals, and they fight. They fight. They should be out for the count. We should be out for the count, but they fight. And sometimes they fight through tears, and that's what y'all are hearing right now. You're hearing somebody who's freaking fought this battle. Like, I mean, Charlene is is our state chair for New Jersey. She's the chair of chairs. She's fought that New Jersey team group has fought like hell. And and every time a door slammed on their in their face, they got back together and they fought harder. They've done everything they can to get the word out. They've put up billboards. They hired a plane to to carry a banner along the beach. They've had a truck that went to different locations. They all filed, their cases in court. They they have stuck together and fought together. And sometimes, like, now through tears. Through tears. Nobody will ever ever be able to say that these women went down without a fight. They fought and they continue to fight, but this is what the fight looks like. This is what moral courage looks like when you're beaten down. They've killed your loved 1. You didn't even wanna freaking be in this fight to begin with, but here you are. And and you're you get this big eye opening, this big this big eye opener, especially, like, me and Charlene have both been in politics for a long time and know a lot of people in politics. And it's it's like you get this big eye opener as to people that normally you thought were good people, and you find out that they're just freaking moral cowards. 1: Oh, yes. I mean Self absorbed. 4: You know? Yeah. 1: And then it's we didn't even get to fight. It wasn't even like a fair fight for the court. You know what I mean? Like, it's Right. It just hasn't you know? Because they're Yeah. So 4: Our courts are compromised. Our legislators are compromised. 3: Yeah. 4: A lot of it's all captured, and we we we just have to wake people up. And and part of the fight I don't know what we're doing here. I mean, part of the fight is to hold them accountable and to expose it all, but part of the fight is just to freaking save lives because peep they can say all they want that so last year. I I'm sorry. The holocaust, the the democide that's happened in a on American soil, the 1500000.0 or 1,200,000, whatever they changed the numbers to be, of murdered people in hospitals was so last year or so whatever. But it's still happening. It's still happening. I mean, just 3 weeks ago, they gave a 3 year old freaking remdesivir, so it's still happening. I mean, like, we 1: Well, and and how about, 1 of my friends? So I I have a friend that, her end of the politics, like, her special thing is the board of education. So she is like a badass chick. She's been on Fox. She's been on Newsmax. She's been fighting, you know, all this crazy education stuff. She supports me. Right? She knows what happened to us, and she believes it. You know, she's a statistician, and she knows all the stats and, you know, stuff like that of what with the COVID. So she knows, she's seen anyway, she went into the hospital. She was possibly having a cardiac event. And she went into the hospital. When she got there, you can see her heart rate was high. She it was, like, a 40, something like that. And then when she got there, it went to 60 blood pressure. You know? So she's got, like, dysautonomia, but she wasn't feeling good. Now she's got every crazy She's allergic to everything, like, to the point where she go she had she goes to the anaphylactic shock. Right? So she's always carrying her thing. Long story short, she gets in the hospital. They refused to give her water. They're not gonna give her any fluids. They stuck something up her nose. I'm like, get your damn, you know, records. And I said and then she said they wanted to give her heparin. And and she's like, but doesn't does that cause, you know, allergic reaction. Right? And they're like, no. No. No. And she goes, but don't you have alternatives? No. No alternatives to heparin. They're refusing alternatives to her. She's not co doesn't have COVID. No fluids. They gave her the freaking heparin. 20: Mhmm. 1: Sure enough, she went in the anaphylactic shock. They all stood there while she's going through this. Crazy. And the girl ran out, came back. So my point is, like, she signed herself out AMA because she's like, they tried to to because there was more to it what they did to her. They were trying to freaking kill me. She called me, like, that day she went home from 4: the hospital. Yeah. I mean So That's insane. 1: It it yeah. It's not even COVID. 4: And I swear I swear y'all, we will get to Mary, we will get to you and Care Bear and, and, welcome to Eagle. But I gotta say this, like, we have got to stop clapping for these people that say that they're holding these hearings and they're doing this and they're doing that and they're reporting they report on something good and we're, like, clapping like trained seals. And we have to start holding them accountable, like, hey. Why aren't you reporting on the biggest genocide in the history of the world? Like, I I don't know. Maybe that maybe you could put that on your to do list to do something about or step aside and let somebody else who can do do. Like, there's there should be no more important agenda item on a state's legislative agenda than stopping the democide. There should be no greater, bigger, and more important story than a democide. I mean, I do give a damn about the cats and dogs in Ohio that are being being eaten and, you know, killed and all of that stuff. But what about the freaking 1 point? Like, what about the over a million people that have been murdered in hospitals? I don't know. That's probably a bigger story. Yeah. I'm just guessing. I'm just guessing. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we could give the people that were murdered or almost murdered about as and I love dogs. If somebody tried to kill my dog, I I would be all over that. Like, you know me, I my my dogs are are precious. 1: They'll never find the body. That's all I gotta say. 4: Right. But Right. But so it's not like I don't care about that issue. I do care about that issue. But over a million people were murdered in a hospital, And they they it's not that they don't know it. It's they will not report on it because they don't wanna lose sponsorship money or they don't wanna lose campaign money or their who their puppet masters, If they're not signing Mary doctor Mary Talley Bowden's promise to not take big pharma money, they're on the take if they won't sign it. If if they, won't do something about this issue and and really get on board with it and understand it, they're on the take, and we gotta stop clapping for them. Whether I don't care if it's Tucker Carlson. I like Tucker Carl I like watching Tucker Carlson, but how many times has he been handed a big binder full of information on this issue? How many times? 2: Like I deleted it last night, but I tweeted I briefly tweeted, 4: at 2: this point, you're either a limited hangout or you're on a a terrorist watch list. Sorry. I don't make the rules. Yes. 8: But that 2: that's how it is. And Tucker Carlson, I'm sorry to say, is a limited hangout. He's controlling the narrative within these narrow parameters and not addressing the real things we wanna hear. 4: That's right. That's right. Yeah. And keeping us focused on that narrow parameter. And, I mean, be you were bold enough to go and interview, Putin over in Russia. Be bold enough to interview some victims of of hospital homicide, of a freaking democide, of a genocide, of a hollow a hospital holocaust, call it whatever you will, but that is what it is. And if 2: Our victims have called out numerous times to Mark Levin 4: Yep. 2: And other shows that say, oh, call in. We'll talk about what you wanna talk about. And they never managed to I think Sherry Martin managed to get on once. Correct me if I'm wrong, Sherry. Yeah. And as soon as she said the word, they took her off. They took her off mic. They won't even talk about it. 4: They won't even talk about it. 1: I Yep. 6: No. The minute the minute I said remdesivir, Mark Levin stopped me and said, well, you got a chance to say what you wanted to say, and they cut me off. 4: That should tell you everything. That Yeah. Stop clapping for these people. Stop clapping for it because they 2: are not anymore the media on the right is not anymore an ally to us than the media on the left. They're suppressing every bit as much. 4: Yeah. Start following Vindog and start clapping for him because he's telling the story. But, 11: Yep. 2: Vindog, Jeremiah, the people in media who are getting the message out, they need to have the following that these big supposed right wing 8: allies have. If they're 2: not talking about the hospital homicides and 4: the the what's going on, the the the death camps in America and as well as the political prisoners, you can't trust anything that they tell you, nothing that they tell you. Wow. I'm worked up tonight. 2: And it's interesting too that the only people who do the the only media people with big followings who do address this and they still don't address it completely are Jimmy Doar and doctor Drew, who are both left leaning. 6: Wow. 2: So Yep. That's You know, what what is the right even doing? 4: Yeah. Exactly. Let's go to Mary. Mary's been so patient, so patient. I appreciate your patience, Mary. Let's go to Mary and then ShareBear. 2: And then we've got Vindog on. 4: And we've got Vindog. Mary, I'm so sorry we made you wait this long. You just take yourself off of mute, and you can speak. Mary Madeline. 2: She knows how to use the emojis. I would think she knows how to use mute. Yeah. 4: I did see it. She's been 2: thumbs downing a lot through through the conversation. So I'm curious what you take issue with, Mary. 18: Mary, my I keep losing you. I that's why I keep putting the thumbs down. 4: Oh. 0. Yeah. 18: Sorry. Oh, 4: it's okay. 18: Listen, I'm not real good on these spaces, but I kept putting it down to let you know that you kept going in and out, and I kept losing you completely. 4: Oh. Anyway Yeah. 11: Blame you on 8: Okay. 2: Blame Elon Musk. Its spaces are very buggy, but thank you for for being persistent. 18: To the nitty gritty, we all get shut down. 4: Yeah. 18: It's not the first space. But I wanna say that, I'm gonna try to not be all over the place because I get emotional. Try to stick to what I want to say. I wanted to say, first of all, to Charlene and to protocol, I guess that's I don't know what the full name is. I am very sorry to hear. I have no words. 1: Thank you, Mary. Thank you. 18: I'm very sorry. And I want to say that I had COVID in 02/2020. I got it on a trip back from, Jamaica. My son bought us a trip. Long story short, he said, I have the insurance. You don't have to go. I said, Steve, I'm going. And I went and she was sneezing in the middle seat, not even cover her hand. The next day I had the sneezes. I fought it for 2 weeks at home. It was the first time I ever went to bed with my shoes and my coat on. It was February 11 that I came down with COVID. I have low blood pressure. I'm on an aspirin a day for an aneurysm. They put a stent in my head in 02/2017. I've had every kind of respiratory illness there is to have. And for anyone listening, I wanna tell you this. If you ever have a respiratory illness, do not go to the hospital. Get someone to get you out of bed and make you walk. Put you in bed, put all the clothes on like our parents used to do, drug you with whiskey and hot tea, and sweat that bitch out. Do not go to the hospital. We all have learned that lesson now with COVID. But my thing is, is my pressure went up. I have low pressure, low everything. And my voice is low. I'm outside right now, but my voice is low mostly because I have thyroid that's never been treated. Because of that, I have every kind of when I went through menopause, I have every kind of immunity thing. I got a flu shot to be a nanny in 02/2018. And I know this has nothing to do with COVID, but I just wanna say this. My sister worked for Guillain Barre. People are injured constantly from the flu shot. It all depends on your makeup. Some people don't have the gen genetic immunity, the antigens to fight the things that are in these vaccines. I have not been the same since co since I got that flu shot. I have this thing that if I carry shopping bags in and they get over a pocketbook, and I don't carry heavy pocketbooks anymore. I get these big welts, on my like a rash that comes up. And my allergist, who's very good in Philadelphia, he was my son's allergist, and he was all about fixing him. They didn't have this thing back then where let's drag this out and pump you full of everything. See, I'm going off task. But let me just say this, I get upset. If you get a flu shot, it depends on who you are and your makeup, and nobody knows who can handle it or not. I've never been the same. And lo and behold, I should have never got it because I should have learned from my sister being the executive secretary of the Guillain Barre, Foundation in Norbert, Pennsylvania. That being said, this has been going on before COVID, the vaccine, and this is gonna continue to go on. But I have been telling friends of mine, when you go to the doctor, I don't care if it's to get your tooth pulled, to never never go by yourself anymore. It's it's detrimental to our well-being to go by yourself into a medical facility. We've all learned that through COVID. So if we take anything away from that, and especially don't leave anybody in the ER. It's a joke. And the other thing too is if any good body goes into the hospital with a respiratory, I don't care if you have to take out a loan. Go get your own personal CNA to stay with your patient 24 hours because they can also they they have to report back to their agency. They're not employed by the hospital. So if you get your own CNA to stay with them, they can get your person that has respiratory issues out of the bed. I force myself, and I live in a it was a 15 square foot Cape Cod in the suburbs of Philadelphia. I forced myself to get out of bed because I've had allergies and respirators my whole life. If it wasn't for me not having the allergies and knowing that if you don't get up and huff and puff, you're not gonna get better. So because I always had respiratory allergies to seasonal things outside, My sister had 1 lung, and her and I used to be compare ways to help each other in the winter. And there's a lot of teas out there. Breathe right. Just buy it at the food store. It all these different herbs will help you breathe. Will you have other reactions? Sure. But it'll open your lungs. And furthermore, I was in the hospital 15 years ago. I had a respiratory therapist come in and pump my lungs on my back and lay me on my side to get the fluid moving. These people weren't getting help in the hospitals. See, I'm getting upset, and I'm getting pissed because they put them on respirators and you never stay laying still if you have a respiratory illness. That's a that's a number 1 thing. If anybody's listening, take that with you. You have to get up and you gotta make somebody walk you. The huffing and puffing makes your lungs work, not the machine. The machine just crystallized their lungs, and the fact that they didn't give them fluids to move the crap out of there is another downer. So I'm gonna get off because I'm pissed. 2: I I understand your your righteous anger about this. 18: At what they did to the people in these hospitals. And here's another thing. They Trump set that ship up there to New York. Do you know it was never used? There was no 1 in that ship, and they turned around and sent all those old people back to their own place to die. Instead of putting them on that ship, why didn't they get those people out of the hospitals with COVID and put them on the ship that he sent up there for the overflow? So it's all hindsight. It's 2020. My thing is I wanna stay, and I'm ready to cry. Everybody get on aspirin. When I had COVID, I have low pressure, low blood sugar, low everything because I'm hypothyroid. Low voice, low everything, and everybody thinks I'm depressed. I'm not depressed. I'm the most exciting person there is to be around, and I'm very passionate about people. So if you need somebody to get on the walk down wherever, I'm on it. I'm right there with you. I don't care if they come and they take me away. They can't do this to our kids. They did it to my first son. They gave him his DPT when I told them he was sick. And that night, his legs and his arms started jumping after he was sound asleep after he nurse. And I was looking at him and, of course, first time mom. I was petrified, and I knew there was something wrong. I didn't go to college. I am so smart because I always question everything. They killed my brother in the in the VA. They put him on the highest powered dose of Tylenol knowing he had liver. He had cirrhosis of the liver from drinking. It's it's it's everywhere. And the only way that we're gonna do this is to start getting doctors. These doctors that left the hospital, we need to start finding ways to to to get them in a group and let them be our hospitals in our own little communities. Screw the hospitals. When I go to urgent care, they do everything they can to help you. The hospitals, it's just a money making machine like the and I will say that every time I go, when I did end up in COVID, and the doctor came in, they treated me bad because I had, low potassium because I was sweating too much. I was sitting outside after my brother died. He he was dead in the morning, and I patted his shoulder. They didn't go in to give him his medicine knowing how painful, dying of your liver was. I had to go get them, and I said, should I pull put it pull a Shirley MacLaine on them and start slamming on the counter, or should I just go in nice? And I said, no, Nance. Just go in nice. And if they give you an attitude, just tear this place up. I don't owe these people anything, and none of us do. We don't have to be complacent. These are our loved ones. I was told, well, I could go visit my sister-in-law who took care of me when I was 11. I could I could stand outside the window and talk to her through the window, and I said, why would I do that? Is she a monkey in a cage? In other words, I wasn't allowed to go see her because her group her her, side, her wing of the old age place had COVID. Well, it wasn't me that brought it in there. Why can't I go see her? So we we gotta do something. We gotta go somewhere and get laws going that nobody can ever let us out of the hospitals again. There's no way to exactly. 3: Oh, I was just gonna say that's exactly what we're fighting for in Oklahoma. You know, and I know that they're doing it in in other states as well trying to 4: to get 3: to where we have these legislators to stand up and to, work with us so that we can get investigations into the hospitals and get a lot of these, you know, bills put in place, the freedom of conscience bills and the, you know, the patient rights. And we have a a, you know, a never left alone bill, but it's got a it's got a loophole in it. You could drive a Mack truck through it. You know? So, you know, those are the it's all it's all very, very real, and and we need to have a group of people to come together and just watch this like a hawk. 18: Well, I I would suggest and I'm all about finding solutions because to hear these 2 girls to women's stories 4: Mhmm. 8: Is disgusting. 4: And if it I 18: have no words to explain how bad I feel because I I was in the hospital for about 6 weeks, and I wasn't supposed to live. So you know my sister never left. Yeah. She lost her job over it in 02/2005, or I wouldn't be here right now. 3: Yeah. 18: She made sure they did what they were supposed to do. I was in ICU for a few weeks. I wasn't supposed to live. 4: I agree with you about about don't go anywhere alone. Like, don't go to the doctor. Like Yeah. 18: Don't go to the dentist. Because guess what? They got these nitwits in there giving you a colonoscopy, and they're all laughing about stuff. This is bullshit. Yeah. You know, every 1 of us would lose our jobs if we treated our people that way, our customers. 3: Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. 4: I I haven't been to a doctor since they tried to kill me. So I I'm I hear you on that. And and, you know, there if some so the 2 stories that you've heard, that everybody has heard so far tonight, I think more than 2 stories, 3 actually, Catherine's. And, there's tons of stories out on chbmp.org. It is in the chat, chbmp.org. If you have a COVID related crimes against humanity, if you were harmed by by, the shot or somebody died from the shot or the pro or a protocol survivor or protocol death, please put your story in. Put your story in on chbmp.org. If you don't if you're not in that boat but you care about this issue, go and watch these stories, especially the ones in your state. There's a little map. There's a map on chbmp dot org where you can click on your state. You can watch the stories in your state. Chbnp.org/commonalities. It's the 25 commonalities that we have found across these these stories. Right now, I think we've had 1,250 people that have sent their story given us their stories. Many of them still have to do their their interviews, but, there are tons of stories out there and you will see stories about survivors. You will see stories about, people who lost their children to the protocols, pregnant women who had the babies ripped right from them and the mothers killed. When there when there was a reluctance for pregnant women to take the shot, they started targeting pregnant women. And so, so they they know what they're doing. They they they know that they're doing this, but go out there and look at these faces and read these stories and listen to these interviews from these from from the people who've had the courage to tell their stories and share these stories. The more they get out there, the more people will will you know, they'll share them and they'll share them, and then follow the follow the podcasters who are telling these stories, like Vindog, who's telling What's his name? Vindog. He's in Vindog. Yep. He's in the chat right now. He's about to speak. VinDog Radio USA. 2: Okay. 4: He just had, also last week, and he had on 2 of our folks from Michigan, Teresa whose father was killed in a hospital in Michigan, and Julie whose daughter was pregnant with her seventh child, and they, delivered they forced delivered that baby early so they could give her remdesivir and put her on a vent, and they killed her because she was she had not taken the shot. And we have seen these doctors across the nation kill these pregnant women. The Bay they saved the oh and then they go on the news, We saved the baby, but we couldn't save the mother. How how tragic. We did all we could when really they murdered the mother, and then they they close try to close the deal with, so all you pregnant women go out and get this experimental shot and, you know, because it's all about, you know, population control. Wow. Tonight's spaces has me on, quite the 2: You're on a roll. 4: I I am on I am on yes. I am fired up about, not just the crimes against humanity that has occurred, but the crimes against humanity that continues to occur, are it's interesting the, government and and that's not this is not when I say the government caused it and the government incentivized it and then the government also prevented you from getting, redress, a regress for it. You know, they the the tort reform and all that stuff. Yeah. It's and I'm not just talking about Democrats. I'm talking about some of our very own, you know, some I'm a Republican and and and I see it happening. The the you know, they're no better when it comes to these laws and what they'll do and what they'll not do. So if they're not doing something, you know, we have 1 we have a couple guys in Texas. I'm in Texas. Senator Bob Hall is great. He's fighting the good fight about on these, on these, protocol deaths. He he's constantly battling the windmills. We've got a few like that. Hopefully, our AG. If anybody has a story, send a letter to Ken Paxton in, somebody if somebody could put this the substack article on what to do there, we need to flood his office with letters, to get him to impanel a grand jury because these are crimes against humanity. These are crimes. These some of these people actually need to be perp walked out of a hospital. So with that, I'm gonna go so I'm gonna go to ShareBear and then Vindog before I go to down 11: Can I 18: just say 1 more thing? 4: You sure? 18: I I don't know where I heard it, but from the time that I had COVID, I went to the hospital only because my pressure had gone up to a 50 and my pressure is usually below a 20 to a 10. Like I said, everything is low. And just to show you, medical malpractice, I should have been helpful with my thyroid for years. I had every 1 of the signs. So now I'm 69 and I can't tell you if I wasn't on the aspirin every day. My brother-in-law went and got the shot. He didn't get to the outside waiting room. You know how you had to wait for 15 minutes? 14: Mhmm. 18: Okay. They had to call the ambulance. He went into a heart attack. 4: Oh my god. I 15: don't know how 18: to say that. So all of this shit, it's not a conspiracy. The whole time during COVID, I became political because of COVID. I was never political before and I don't care what side you're on. I know that there's people in the government that will fight, that will fight against what they did. The fact that they took my mother at 91 years old and gave her medicine that my sister looked up, you're never supposed to give it to a senior. And she died. I mean, I'm glad she died because she had a hell of a living. She couldn't see or hear and she was an artist and she loved music. So she was living in hell anyway. Yeah. But to give that to she didn't 1 sister told them to give her something to calm her down. Well, you could've give her the damn value. She was 91 years old. You didn't have to give her some kind of thing that was so it's being done all the time. It's just that people don't talk about it. That we're talking about it now because of COVID and all the malpractice there. 2: But I 18: don't know why. I I I can't understand why they didn't get help with home health aids to get those old people out of bed. And that will go down in my memory because you can't leave an old person laying in bed. They're gonna get pneumonia. Alright? Thank you for your time on the mic, and, thank you for the space. 4: Sure. 18: I'm really shaken up right now, so I'll just be quiet. 4: Thank you for sharing all that. Share Bear, thank you so much for your patience. 19: Hello, everyone. Gail, this is Cheryl, by the way. I kinda I changed I changed my name on on a lot of the social medias. I had somebody trying to hack into my account, I guess, maybe to shut me up, but that's not ever gonna happen. Anyway, you can hear me good? 4: Great. Yeah. 19: Okay. So I just wanted to share with your listeners. I've been on here several times, so I'm gonna make a long, long story short. COVID had affected me in in 2 different ways. My 51 year old healthy sister-in-law had gotten the Pfizer Vax in January of 21. She got her second dose in February of 21. And then, in May, she was diagnosed with tuberocancer, kidney cancer that was throughout her whole body, her lungs, her bones, everywhere. She did pass away, July tenth of 20 21. My husband had gotten COVID in September of 21, was home self medicating, 55 year old. He was healthy. Ended up going in the hospital September 28. They immediately threw him in the ICU. I couldn't see him. I couldn't talk to him on the phone. They told me that if they took if he took off the mask, that his oxygen would drop. They did not give him any fluids, no water, no ice chips, no food for 10 days. I didn't know what remdesivir was all about until about October 3, which was Sunday. A friend of mine sent me, in an email what remdesivir will do to the body. And, coincidentally, at that that same day, my husband had texted me and said they're taking him off remdesivir or, he said, the COVID meds, because his liver and kidneys were being affected. His numbers were dropping. So they took him off the COVID medication, and then Monday, the doctor called and said that they were gonna put him back on remdesivir. I freaked out because I'm like, well, if his numbers were improving and they were getting worse before, why are you putting him back on this medication? I got power of attorney for his health on Monday, the fourth. On the sixth, they did, they finally did a culture and found he had a bacterial infection. They were gonna the infectious disease doctor was gonna start him on antibiotics on Wednesday, the sixth. The doctor doctor Rebecca that was treating my husband did not start him on the antibiotics until Thursday, the seventh, at 01:30 in the afternoon. She wouldn't talk to me about a plan of care. There was no informed consent. I couldn't see him. I couldn't talk to him. I stormed the ICU. They wouldn't let me in. I was basically locked out of this hospital, and they did what they planned on doing to get their incentive bonuses. They murdered my husband. He passed away Friday morning, on the eighth or excuse me, Friday afternoon at 01:25PM. I I do agree with Mary on self medicating and and not going to see a doctor. I have I have not taken any medication. I'm not seeing, my doctor. The last time I went to see him was April '2 years ago, and he wanted me to take the flu vaccine and the COVID vaccine. And I told him where to stick it where the sun don't shine. Anyway, you know, I was and I was thinking about this too. You know, Mary, when I was a kid okay. I'm I'm gonna give it to you. I'm 60 years old. And when I was a kid, I never went to the dentist to have my teeth cleaned every 6 damn months. I never went to the doctor. When I got sick, my mom made me a hot toddy, which consisted of tea, honey, and whiskey. And these days, they would consider that child abuse. But let me tell you, when we got sick, we we drank that and we went to bed and we sweat it out. And I think that's where we need to go back to is the old home remedies, of, you know, what our parents did for us. The other thing I wanted to to touch on, Gail, was I mean, after I got my husband his 400 pages of medical records, and I had joined former Feds Group and CHBMP and gave you my husband's story. I I became, I I I actually, I came out of my widow brain. It took me a couple years. I was real foggy, couldn't think straight. And, I got his medical records, and I started going through all of his medical records with the 43 drugs that they gave him, and they ended up giving him propofol, where he wasn't on a ventilator. They were basically drugging him for him to cooperate and not request any type of, you know, information or anything about the side effects of what remdesivir does. But it was it was March of 20 22, and I had gotten COVID. I was very sick for about 6 or 7 days. I was having problems breathing. My daughter came over. She wanted me to go to the hospital. I said, absolutely not. So I went to my freedoctor.com. I signed up as a patient. I paid $400. I got hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin. They gave me an inhaler, and they gave me a prescription, and I got a nebulizing machine. And by the third day, I was a % better. 4: It's a good point. 19: What what kills me what literally what literally kills me is, like, what you said. It is the government. It is Fauci. It's the NIH. It's the CDC. But it's not only them. It's the media besides our government. It's the social media. It's our senators. It's our governors. And, when when I came out of my brain fog I mean, I took Chris's story off of CHBMP.org, and I sent it to Stu Peters, Dan Bongino, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens. I sent it to Trump, Trump Junior. I I sent it to all these different media outlets so I could try to get Chris's story out there. And I finally was, I finally was able to put Chris's story out. I believe it was Mike Decca. Is that his name? Yep. He contacted me, sent me an email, and I did Chris's story, and I put it in the purple pill. I stuck it in there if anybody wants to watch it. But I want all of these people held accountable. Fauci, NIH, CDC, the hospitals, the doctors, the administrators, the government, anybody in social media that's suppressed. Because to think that a freaking $10 package of ivermectin would have saved my husband's life. He was 55 years old. A $10 pack of ivermectin would have saved him, and they're still killing people to this day. It it it just breaks my heart. That's why we have to speak up. We have to talk about it. We have to make signs. We have to put things like, I have stickers and the magnets on my car. You know, and I drive around. Yeah. People look at me kinda weird. I don't care. But it it it goes also, like I said, to our governors. March, I believe it was 2021 or 2022. I'm not sure. Governor Tony Evers, my governor in the state of Wisconsin, put into effect Wisconsin state statute 8 9 5.476. This statute holds administrators, hospitals, nurses, the doctors, everybody from when if they've treated your your loved 1 for COVID and they died, they have immunity. I cannot find an attorney in the state of Wisconsin. As soon as I tell them my husband had COVID and he was in the hospital, they shut me down. They say, sorry. They have a the hospitals have immunity. There's nothing basically that we can do, but give it to God, Pray about it, and keep speaking out and keep telling people what's going on. I'll make this a little short. I had a conversation with my mother-in-law because my my in laws, Chris's Chris's cousins, brother, mom, they all think I'm crazy, and I'm a today, my mother-in-law called me a conspiracy theorist. And I looked at her, and I said, well, you have heart problems because you took that vax. She took 2 vaccines. She took 4 boosters. Now she has heart problems. I've gotta take her to the cardiologist. I said, you know what? I can remove my tinfoil hat, but better yet, I can give you what doctor Peter McCullough has has put on his website so you can get that spike protein out of your body. Isn't it? She won't listen to me. Yeah. She won't listen to me. But, I mean, I I even had explained to her about what happened with Chris. His kidneys and liver was being affected by the remdesivir on day 4. Okay? So they stopped the doctor stopped giving him this drug on day 5, but then started it back up again even though she knew it was affecting his liver and his kidneys. His numbers were dropping. Why would the doctor do that? They were getting paid. They were getting incentives. They were getting incentives from the government. 4: Because any other time any other time it would be evidence based medicine, and you would be going, oh, my patient's getting sicker. Let me stop doing this. 19: Oh, yeah. But wait. Hold on to your lug nuts. Wait. Wait. But there's more. There's more. Because these son of a bitches sorry for my French. But these this hospital got a a quarter, if if not half a mil, for my husband's life. And then, also, then they turned around and and they billed his insurance for another hundred and $70,000. 11: Yes. 19: And I have to figure out how I can go forward with my life because all of the plans that we had when he was gonna retire, which would have been this past August, he was gonna retire, and all the plans and everything that we had to look forward to was taken away by these son of a biscuits that it was all it was all taken away. And my grandchildren and my children, their their father and their papa and my soulmate, my husband, was was taken away. For what? For money? Because because of the money? 4: Yeah. What 19: My my dad used to say, the root of all evil comes in the form of cash. 4: Yes. 19: And he he was a % right. 4: It's the love of money, and it's the love of power because it was like the bigger picture is that whole 1 World Health push and the depopulation agenda. People can 19: say it's Exactly. And that's exactly what I told Mike when I interviewed with Mike, and that's what he put on Chris's story that I believe it was, depopulation. Because wait. Wait. There's more. 1 more thing, and then I'm gonna shut my mouth, and and and I'll then I'll start listening. I just wanna leave this with all of your listeners. So my husband did not believe in the vaccine. He did not wanna get vaccinated. Okay? My husband went in the hospital with COVID and then was thrown into the ICU to their protocol. Okay? His best friend, his buddy, had gotten COVID. His buddy was vaccinated. So guess he went in the hospital 2 different times. 1 the first time, he was put in the hospital overnight for observation because he was having problems breathing. So he was released with an antibiotic, a steroid, and an inhaler. Why? Because he was vaccinated. Oh, wait. Not 1 time, he had 2 dosages of the vaccine. So you can't tell me nobody on God's green earth can tell me that these people, including my husband and others' loved ones, were not targeted because they were not vaccinated. We weren't cooperating. We weren't taking their shit. We were not complying. We weren't taking their vaccine, and they needed to get rid of us. Because what the hell is gonna happen after all these people that got vaccinated and they start dropping dead between 3 to 5 to 10 years? What is gonna happen to us that are left on this earth? That's a good question. That's all I'm done. 4: No. I thank you for that. Thank you for that. It's a 2: lot Yeah. Very well said. 4: Lot of information and a lot of information for everybody. Yes. Very well said. And I'm glad that you, you know, I'm glad that you touched on, you know, the connection with CHBMP. So, for years, we've been gathering these stories and we've been, we've been all coming together to help each other. And 1 of the most beautiful things about it is we have these support groups. We have support groups almost every night of the week. Right? We've got, you know, on Sunday is our, PTSD, workshop that Patty Gallano Galliano, she runs that. She's a psych nurse and a survivor and a whistleblower, and a whistleblower. And, her story is out there on CHBMP as well. And she, also just wrote a book called They Call Me Harriet that's quite good. But, so she runs that. And then on Monday nights, we have our huge support group, which is run by protocol widow. And that is, like, everybody who's impacted comes on that and and 2: And bring your families. 4: And bring your families, and we share information and all this stuff. On Tuesdays, we have, 3 groups actually. Denise Fritter runs a group for parents who had a child, adult or child child, killed by the protocols. And, so she runs the parent group, support group. And, Erin, who's 1 of our widows in Pennsylvania, runs a, a widow's group for women, a women's group. And I, on Tuesday, run our Catholic support group because felt you know, just for our Catholic victims and because I'm I'm Catholic. And then, on Wednesday nights, I run a facilitate a survivor group for survivors and their families, survivors of the hospital protocols. On Thursday night, there is a women's bible study and half well, it's it's on a break for I think it's coming back this week or next week. They it's they always have a Thursday night women's group. It's either it's part support group and part bible study for women of faith. And then on Friday nights, we used to rest, but, like, now we're doing we're we're working with Mick on her spaces that she's doing for Oklahoma. We'll rest when we're dead. And then Saturday, we have 2 things. Kat Parker has a vax injured, support group, and we have our spaces. So through these support groups and through all of these people coming together, you know, we they we learn from each other, and and, and people don't feel alone. 1 of the most common things we feel, we hear when people find us is, Oh my gosh, I thought I was alone in believing this. I thought I was alone in going through this. I thought I was you know? And people, like, sob. Like, they're, like, they're out there just feeling lonely and being told they're conspiracy theorists by their 2: We had that happen in this space several times. 4: Yeah. Where people didn't know and people, yeah, people didn't even know that there was a place collecting these stories and collecting and interviewing people. Because let me tell you something. If the media is not gonna tell these stories, by God, we frigging are. We're gonna get it on record. We're not gonna let them memory hole. There there will be no memory holding and we'll never let it we'll never let it go. So the if we can't hold them accountable in the courts, by god, we're gonna hold them accountable in the in the in public in the public eye, and we're gonna, you know, I mean, we're we're just gonna keep shedding the light shining the light on the people who are part of this, covering it up, condoning it, whatever that is. But we do that, and as we come together, we also have a citizen task force, which is I know the link is out there at, ffctf.org. We have a citizen task force. These are like I said before, these are all people that should be by by they they expected all of these people to be out for the count, and they're not. And you hear a lot of women. You hear a lot of women who have lost it all. You just heard Cheryl describe what the actual what the impact is, the just the sheer impact that has has been their life. And these women are fighters. And, you know, if there are men out there that that have lost somebody have had somebody killed or, you know, you hear Alan Martin all the time about his daughter Trista. The man's a tiger. But get behind us. Get behind us. Join us. Join all if the more the bigger the army we have, the better we can fight. And and it takes money too. So I'm you know, call me crazy, but if, you know, if you if you have if you can donate to, you know, these organizations like ours or follow and support Vindog and 8: I mean, it like, I'd say this, Gail. If everybody gave $5. Right? Like, $5. That's it. Like, $5. If we can get churches, get organizations. 2: Yeah. On formerfedsgroup.org, if you go to donate, there is an option to make it a monthly donation. And if everybody in this chat went and made a monthly donation to formerfedsgroup.org, we would be able to achieve so much more. 4: Yeah. So much more. I I I don't know about you, but I thought I Scott's voice is ringing in my ears. Is that 19: Hey, Gail. Can I just interject for a minute? I just want I wanted people also to understand with CHBMP, it's not just widows and widowers. We be we become family. And I'll tell you what. In 2022, it was, April of 20 22, and I didn't know which way I was gonna go. I mean, I lost my husband. I lost my sister-in-law. I I I lost my husband's income. I I was, like, ready to go off the cliff. And if it wasn't for Patty and Peggy and they both know who they are, Let me tell you, I probably would have ended my life. But for the having that connection and being able to have them and reach out to them and text them or call them whenever I needed to, I believe between them 2 and God, that's why I'm still here. And that's why I'll keep telling Chris's story to whoever wants to listen. 2: I just wanna say thank you so much. That just it warms my heart, and that is such such positive information in light of all the devastating things we've been talking about. And if if these networks have helped you and and prevented your suicide. Like, I am just I am I'm so grateful for you and so grateful that you found us. And I hope, you know, I hope more people are able to find us before they reach that point. So that's why it's so important we all share these spaces and make sure everybody is aware that we're here to welcome you in as soon as you realize what's been done to you. 8: When I think what Gail said with Kat Parker's space with the vaccine entered, I've I've I've cared for a lot of these people. But the first time I went on her space, I I was on from about noon to almost noon to almost 2AM with maybe a 45 minute break listening to this. I was asked to be on there to to to share and and and provide some insights, etcetera, in in a single half a day, I felt like my system, my soul experienced more trauma listening to how these people have been harmed, neglected, ignored, ridiculed, belittled, I mean, attacked. And and and I I remember finishing it was around 2AM, and I ended up after we got off the call, I I got on a call with a woman in Canada that was that was looking for assisted suicide. And I spoke with her for much of the rest of the night. And 4: Somebody somebody just did get assisted suicide over vaccine injured there. It was Oh, yes. I just saw that. 8: Yeah. Somebody had gone to Switzerland earlier and done it. But but these are I would I would encourage people to go on just not not for the macabre of it, but just to hear I mean, it's so real, and there's so much so much need for these people because so many of them can't work. They've been you know, anyway, so it's like there's so many people that need help. And, you know, all it takes is is getting that information out to say, you know, 1 or 2 people that are like, oh, we have the resources or whatever. It's it is. It's about, like, just being relentless about getting this information out. So I'm really glad that you mentioned that, Gail. It's such an important organization that she started. 4: The support groups are invaluable. Right? And so, where can they go? It's sup formerfedsgroup.org/support. Is that 2: It's /groups. And I am talking with Kat about, getting her regular back support back injury support group going again. And she's she's gonna help me build up stoptheshots.org, so that's exciting. 4: Oh, that is that is exciting because that's that needs more attention. So let's go to we've got Vindog and then Jennifer and then, I think, Scott. 2: Nooney. 4: Nooney and then Scott. Right? Oh, Min dog, Nooney, Jennifer Scott. There we go. 2: Min dog, really good to see you on tonight. How are you doing? 0: Oh, man. I'm doing alright. It's been a lot of mic dropping going on tonight. I've been sitting back like, wow. This is this is like a whole mic drop ceremony because it's 10000% nothing but truth being told right now. And this is this is great. This is what I this is what I desire to hear, but I want it to be expanded even more. You know what I mean? And to to go back what you guys were talking about earlier with, you know, guys like Tucker Carlson and Mark Levin, I always tell I've always told people about these guys. They're they were like I I said they're a controlled opposition. Remember those 2 words. Controlled opposition. So people are like, but Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox. I'm like, that doesn't matter. His dad, Dick Carlson, was a probe guy for the CIA. You know what I mean? It it just you know, it all it all intertwines with 1 another. So when you always see these big figureheads that are big influencers and trust me, his Substack account, he's clocking $50,000,000 a month, basically. 4: Oh my gosh. You're kidding me. 0: No. Because it's, like, $15 for people to subscribe to his Substack. 10 to $15 a month. Yeah. So and, you know, along with his 13,000,000 followers on on x and, you know, his website, I'm like 13: Yes. 0: I wish people would stop thinking that these guys are gonna be for us. It's like I always say, they're the big time, you know, multi hundred millionaires and billionaires at the top of the sphere, and they are laughing at us bottom feeders, basically. 2: And meanwhile, Benddog is is begging to get his his podcast, which is really comprehensive and has great guests and covers so many topics. Just trying to get it funded for the next year is like pulling teeth, isn't it? 0: Oh, man. It it yeah. It's like pulling teeth from a baby. And it's funny because well, I should say yeah. Put it this way. I know people personally who are, like, financially putting money behind, you know, folks like Tucker Carlson and all these guys, and they have, like, total faith in them. I'm like, dude, are you serious? Do you realize that these guys won't talk about people that have been murdered by the COVID protocols? People that have been killed by the vaccines. They won't even touch on that because they they will. 2: We just have to keep putting pressure on them to do so. I think, eventually, when it's politically expedient for them to do so, then they'll talk about it. But they're probably not gonna do it soon. 0: They're not going they're not going to soon at all because, I mean, what are they talking about? They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. 4: Yeah. That's what I'm that's what 0: you heard me. Another psyop. Another psyop. 4: Like, I'm like, when 0: are people gonna wake up and realize this is all a joke? They're they're they're playing all of us. They're pitting all of us against 1 another on purpose. You know? And and and I just wish people would understand the the whole logistics behind all of this. And this is the thing. I've had this experience by working in the broadcast industry, and I know how it works. It's all about universal mind control. And what are they doing? They're controlling the minds of people. That's how they got folks like some of our friends and family members and other extended family to line up and get the shot that was eventually going to kill them either the same day or, you know, like, 3 to 10 years later. This this is just a move. That's 1 of their moves for population control. I'm like, if you guys didn't read nothing about MK Ultra and Operation Paperclip, the Tuskegee experiment, this has all been planned from day 1. 4: Most people don't know about that. 0: Mhmm. 4: Yeah. People are like, absolutely, they're like, what is that? I've heard so many people. I've I've heard so many people does not they're like, well, operation paperclip. Right? Maybe we're old. Maybe that's why we know. I don't know. But they don't teach us crap in school anymore. They've dumbed us down so that they can't do this to us. People people like the it is incredibly, I'm gonna say this. I say this every freaking week. People are probably sick of me saying it. Get rid of your entertainment. Get rid of your entertainment. Stop allowing yourself to be entertained. Give up entertainment. 2: And then once you do that, convince your loved ones to give up their t first first and foremost, give up the TV entertainment. Give up the nightly news. Give up the watching CNN all day, and then have the conversation with them about these things after a month of detox from Nativity. 0: And did you know and did you guys know I'm pretty sure that you guys probably know this Chelsea and Gail, that how Disneyland got, you know, created, that was the whole CIA thing. The CIA helped Walt Disney grab that land from people, and and and well, they bought that land. No. No. No. They stole that land from people. They moved those residents out, like, with grip guards around their necks in Anna Cry. 2: Very few people know this, but but for the grace of God, Disneyland would have been where I'm sitting right now. But they couldn't get approval to build it here, so they they built it in LA. Thank goodness. 0: Yeah. In Orange County. Yeah. So Walt Walt Disney was very in with the CIA. I mean, there's a whole there's a whole thing about, the Alice in Wonderland experiment. It's crazy. 4: I did not know that. 0: I Yeah. I 4: learned something new. 0: Yeah. And and the parent and and you know how they always said, oh, you know, the mother was there was no mother or there was no father in certain movies and TV shows? 5: Yeah. 0: You know, they were killed. That that was that was the part of the mind control experiment on the young people. And, you know, and because the young people, what happens? The parents get swindled into it. 2: And that was traumatizing, wasn't it, watching Bambi at at 5 years old? That, like, that scarred me for life. 8: Well, I 4: I'm from Wisconsin, so we deer hunt, so that didn't really scarred me. 5: But but, normally, you wouldn't shoot 4: a doe when they have a little, like, it made it you that would, you know, I don't know what kind of hunter does that. But, I I mean, if you grow up in the country, you kinda like venison. 2: So And that's really kind of some of the earliest anti American propaganda because hunting was a way of life at that point, and they they demonized the hunter. 1: They did. And and just look at 2: The Fox and the Hound as a really good example of that. Oh, yeah. Mhmm. 0: Yeah. And so what happens what happened with that is, you know, that, the, Alice in Wonderland experiment, they were doing that to these young child actors that were part of the Mickey Mouse Club like Britney Spears, Jimmy Lovato. That's why they're all messed up right now. 4: I yeah. I've heard that. I've heard that. 0: Yeah. So this is this is all this is all a plan. That was a part of the plan for the destruction of humanity. 4: But you're you're right. And I like, I don't want us to go down too far down this rabbit hole because we do wanna have other spaces that have this rabbit hole, but it's but it's the point being like, we we have to stop we have to think about who we hail as good. Right? I mean 2: or even even just where you direct your attention is so important. 0: Absolutely. And I I think people should be directing their attention towards the people who are trying to expose the crimes against humanity and get behind people like, you know, Jeremiah, myself, and other podcasters that are willing to put the word out on the street. Because we're all putting ourselves on the line for this. This is not just for us. This is for our children's children and beyond. Because we don't know how long the world's gonna last after we're gone. And, you know, we're trying to help save them from enduring the worst of the worst. And if nobody stands up and, like, really starts to pony up because, man, I know there are some people that call themselves, you know, devout Catholics and Christians and and all this other stuff that are multimillionaires and billionaires. 8: Do you 0: know they sit on their hands and won't even lift a finger? 4: Hey. Listen. I I am a devout Catholic, and I have this argument every damn week, if not every damn day with other Catholics. 0: Mhmm. 4: That, like, our I go to a TLM, a traditional Latin mass, and our in in our faith, the church on earth is supposed to be the church militant, and our priests are always saying, don't come in here and clock in and clock out, you know, with the holy water. Don't clock 0: Gotta work every day. 4: Clock out. You you're called to be the church militant. And if you the our 1 of our priests is very bold. He's like, yeah. Don't get the death dart. 5: Don't blah blah blah. Like, he's terrible. But he 4: he said once he said, you can cower off of the battlefield. You can do that. But that doesn't mean that the battle's not still going. The battle is there, and you have to answer to God for the things that you do and you don't do. And Mhmm. Get on the I would rather die, get to, you know, fighting versus, cowering off to the sidelines and letting the battle rage. Right? So, like, I I wanna see it coming. I wanna head I wanna take on evil head on, eyes open, eyes wide open, and if I'm gonna go down, it's gonna be fighting. I've always said they're gonna have to drag my body off the battlefield dead, and even then I'm and I will be screaming. 2: Yeah. You can't come to this space and talk about crimes against humanity on Saturday night and then go have parties and vacations and play video games and watch TV Monday through Friday. 0: And you know what's funny? 2: Believe what we're saying, then you dedicate your life to this fight. Right? 0: You know what's great that you mentioned that, Chelsea? Because I gave up a lot of that because of all of this that's been happening. You know? I mean, I could have been living a good life continuing my radio career, you know? But I said, you know what? This is not a time to stay silent. This is getting crazy. I mean, think about it. Going back to Tuck, I call him Sucker Carlson because he was praising Hitler along with Daryl Cooper the other day. 4: Oh, my gosh. Yes. 0: Yeah. 2: The antisemitism is so high right now. 0: And and hey, and you know what? I was thinking about it right now. The the people that follow these guys, they're gonna get into that. And if Hitler had the stuff at his fingertips that these globalists have, like these kill shots and all this stuff, dude, he would be on cloud 27 big time. So, you know, I I tell people this is another level of Nazism just, you know, covered up to keep supposedly to keep us safe, you know, with these COVID protocols. It's to keep you safe. No, it's not. It's to get us dead. Straight up. They wanna kill us all. I mean, I I heard all these stories about these wonderful ladies that have lost husbands, parents, brothers and sisters, and people are ostracizing them because they're, you know, seeking the actual truth of what's really happening. I mean, it is getting nuts. And they're laughing because they want that division. 4: They do. 0: They want that division because guess what? The old saying lives to be true. A divided house will not stand, so what do they do? They can divide and conquer. Divide and conquer. I'm pretty sure they're those are the words that they're probably saying every single day when they get into their little briefings. Divide and conquer. Let's go. 4: It's it's so effective. It's well, out of war. Right? Like 2: Mhmm. 3: And it's a distraction. If they can keep you focused on every other thing and if they can if they can divide you and then they can add pain on top of that, then you're not going to notice everything else that they're doing to to sell out the country from underneath you. Mhmm. You know? That's that's why they do it so that they can bring as much pain as they possibly can to control you. Mhmm. And and that's that's the big thing, you know, keep you under control so that you just bow down and say, please stop. What they didn't count on is they didn't count on all the people who are standing up saying, no. This is crap, and we're not gonna take it anymore, and we are gonna fight back. They they weren't counting on the people who say, no. We're not vanquished. We're not we're not laying down. 14: Mhmm. 3: We're not there is no done. 4: And everybody has to stand up. Like, if you I don't know 1 person like, you know, it it's it's it's people do bash those that stand up. That that that's just a fact. Like, I get 0: Mhmm. 4: If I had a nickel if I had a nickel for every time somebody was nasty to me because I speak out or tried to bash me or whatever, I'd have a sock full of nickels to beat them with because that's how much I get it. 0: But And that's for each person. 5: That's for each person. 4: Right? I'd have an individual sock for each person. Mhmm. But I don't really but, like, my give a damn, I don't really care that they do that because, I also get calls where people call me, like, yesterday and say, I saw your interview on Pick A Podcast. I saw your interview. I I needed to get a hold of you. They'll reach out on me on Facebook or something first or Twitter. I and I and I, I need your help. And then we can save a life, and that happens all the time. So when so the more people speak out, if you have a story, you speak out and you keep speaking out. You tell your story on CHBMP. That saves lives. Then you you you agree to to go on podcast. Yes. It puts your name out there. It puts your name out there publicly, and it can there there's a lot of bad that comes. There's bad and good that comes with it. 0: Mhmm. 4: You have to take the bad with the good. Jesus didn't say pick up your feather and follow me. He said pick up your cross and follow me and damn it. Mhmm. Cross is heavy. So just I mean but, you know, yes, Lord. Yes, Lord. Right? That's Mhmm. 3 bags full, lord. So I I do that. And every single time somebody's life is saved 8: because you 4: told your story makes a million times all the bad things that happen, it is it is good, and it makes it worth it when you save a life. Amen. And it's just the it's what we gotta do. And if we all stood up together, if it wasn't just the same 25 people, if it wasn't just the same 50 people talking about this in the public, then, it gets it it it gets noticed. It gets noticed. If it's not the same 10 people going down to their their Capitol Building and imagine if there were a thousand victims in a state going to the Capitol saying we need answers. That would change that would that would change the dynamics because they don't care about 10 people, 20 people, but they do care about a thousand. They do care about busloads, and we see the other side do it all the time, all the time. They care about that. And so you gotta get your butt in gear. I this isn't this isn't a sit on the sidelines fight. This is still happening. And even if it wasn't still happening, 11: we had death camps in America and 4: and over a million people were killed. That matters. And when we when you say never again about something like that, it better damn well mean never again. But it's going to keep happening because we're not standing up. We're not standing up. 2: But make no mistake. Every single time a victim comes forward and tells their story, you are saving lives. Every single 1. I absolutely believe that. 0: Absolutely. Absolutely. That's that's why I that's why I say, you know what? I gotta do what what God desires me to do, and that's to, help put push these stories out. Yeah. And, you know, and the thing is, I remember 1 time my my, program director told me this in radio. He said, it is all theater of the mind. And I'm like, oh, ho, ho, little control there. He says, you always wanna tell the audience what you wanna tell them, but don't tell them how you told them. So, basically, swindle them to keep listening regardless if we give away the get the prize or not. Wow. 8: You know what 0: I'm saying? It's kinda like politics, how they they dangle the carrot in front of everybody. 1: Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna help 0: you with these COVID protocols. We're gonna help you expose this blah blah blah. And then you hear nothing but crickets months later. Yeah. It's absolutely sickening when people are dying. Somebody asked me the other day, hey. Did you check out the debate? No, man. I was I was, texting Gail and emailing her trying to figure out what we can schedule some, some interviews so we can tell people stories. People are dying out here. Are you serious? 8: Right. It's terrible 0: that you're gonna kill against the election. Yeah. 2: With the with the election comes all of the over overreaching censorship and propaganda, and everybody turns their head to look at that. And they're by doing that, by just turning your head and looking at the whatever they're hyping that day, you're taking your eye off the ball because this is really the only thing that matters right now. 0: Yeah. And and you know what? We we gotta keep our eye on the ball. 4: Every time every time they hype something, you gotta look for what's behind the hype. What's behind the hype? 8: They because they're they're doing something nefarious. 0: They're doing things nefarious. That's why they put this other stuff out there so that you don't see it. 3: Exactly. It is you know, that's so much of what they're doing right now. They are just flooding. Of course, they're flooding with a lot of propaganda too. You know? So that they can get people to go, oh, okay. Things aren't so bad. You know? Or, oh, you know, like, I'm so sorry that, you know, I let, the government force me into censoring and then hundreds of thousands of people died. Oops. My bad. No. Or the move on. You know? Well, let's just forgive. We didn't know. It was all you know? It was something that, you know, we hadn't had a, you know, a a virus like this in a hundred years. Let's just move on. No. No. There's too many unanswered questions, and that's why we have to stick together. And if you've noticed, the podcasters that aren't like, you know, the the big big name people, the people who are making, you know, money hand over fist or whatever, Those are the people who have been out there who maybe they've either been in the business or they've lost somebody, but they're not they're not the big they're not the big names. They're not the big names. You know? They're the people who are out there who are like, okay. We are still we still feel the beat of the street. We know what's going on out there, but the but the ones who are big and and have big names, a lot of times, they're they're focused on other things. I'm not picking on them. 2: I mean, I know I know several of those large accounts who have lost a close personal family member, and they still like, maybe they'll talk about it once in a blue moon. You know? They're not they're not dedicating their lives to to getting justice and accountability for that. I don't understand it. I guess it's not lucrative. 8: Even protecting the the ongoing money. Or protecting the ongoing debts. 4: Yeah. 8: Right? Like, if you talk to Gail and Huckleberry and you look at like, this is not it it not only is it not over, it's going to ramp up again. We it cycles, and I've seen it for 4 plus years. This fall, it's gonna happen. It's been happening already through the summer, but it's like you know, if you get 6 or 7 calls and I think about it. Like, 6 or 7 calls, when you think about ramp up like, so it's 1 person, but what is the impact of that lone person uselessly dying? Just on a 2: And they didn't they didn't just 8: those around 2: They didn't just order millions of COVID tests for nothing. 4: Right. Exactly. Scott, you need to put your phone on something cold because it's doing that thing, but, just Nuclear reactor. Yeah. So put just put it on something cold. And I I'm I'll I'll say this. You and I've said this before on the spaces. So but, you know, being being a survivor, I'm gonna tell you guys, when I was looking at the end of my life and I didn't know how I was gonna get out of that hospital, the things it wasn't all of the things that I did in my life that came to mind. It was all the things that I failed to do or didn't do or didn't make time for because I was too busy with some form of entertainment. And when when when God saved my life, you through the way of my husband and daughter storming the ICU, when he saved me, I said I I would not waste 1 more second, 1 more minute of my life with that nonsense. 8: The first thing 4: I could do when I when I could walk to my office, which was about a good 3, 4 weeks, is I deleted anything gaming because I'd wasted so much time. We got rid of cable. We got rid of everything because we didn't want entertainment to suck to to to divert our attention from what was actually going on, and we were pretty informed. We'd been in we had been involved in politics. We had been involved in these big issues. We understood what was going on. My, you know, my husband was had been a biological and and, chemical weapons officer in the military. He was an RN in an emergency room for many years. He's retired. He knew I mean, he was very aware, but entertainment can make you kinda lazy. So, hold off, Vin Dog. I want to, because people are gonna, yeah, maybe have questions. You're gonna wanna jump in later. 0: Yeah. I I was gonna pray for Brad real quick because, you know what, he's got a court a court date coming up too. 4: Yeah. September 30. Yeah. 0: You know? So we we all need to be praying for Brad because, that's that's the kind of guy that I would much rather be in a foxhole with because I know that we're both coming out alive. 2: So for people who are just tuning in or aren't familiar, Brad is Huckleberry's wife's husband. 4: Huckleberry. 2: And and he Huckleberry. And he, he is facing charges for having saved his wife's life, basically. 0: Mhmm. So Yeah. I'll let you get to the next person, so and then we'll we'll have to have a prayer session for him. 4: Yes. We need everybody praying. 9: Mhmm. 4: I appreciate that, Vindog. That's 8: Mhmm. 11: So sweet. 4: Thank you. So and and he has put it in God's hand. My husband is a man. He when God says jump, he does he just says how high. So Mhmm. Kinda guy he is. So who was next? I think we lost somebody. 2: Yeah. I think we're going, Nooney and then Corey. 4: Nooney then Corey. 17: I 12: just wanted to go back to I forget who was telling of the story. But oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The story about the state make giving the hospitals immunity. How can you grant immunity for murder? 4: I know. It's Even 12: they're not the the law has to be challenged. That's a bullshit law. 4: It is a it is a and it it's finding you know, the law has to be challenged, but then it's finding the lawyers that will do it and the courts that will hear it. And it's it's interesting when it's all when it's all incestuous like that. Right? Like, it's it's 8: crazy. 12: That was it. That that just struck me about, like, you know, I'm thinking, hang on. Right case. It's gotta be the right case, and the the argument has to be structured correctly. But in essence, the hospital administrators who told the doctors what to do, and then the doctors and the, medical staff actually doing it. So they're all culpable. 4: Now I But that's still murder. I will say that there are some courts that are, some judges that are saying, no. You don't get to claim the PREP Act when it when you've committed fraud. And so we've got our eyes on California right now for with 1 of our, cases out there. And so I am hopeful on that. And so we've got our eyes out our eyes on that case. 3: Do you know how it's going? 4: I know that they haven't reconvened as of last week. They haven't reconvened because, you know, the judge got sick after the first day. Yeah. So but there was a lot of good things that happened, and there they have to they have to reset it. But I the judge did say that, you know, to the hospital's horror that she was going to allow it to be on Zoom, and she was not going to make the victim and the victim's family and the lawyer and the witnesses all travel and stay in hotels and spend money again. She said she would she was gonna do it by Zoom because she's Imagine 2: if if God had intervened and the judge came down with COVID and goes to the hospital and experiences the protocol and then comes back to rule on that case. Just hypothetically. Hypothetically. Right? 4: I mean, the judge got this the judge should get sick, but I don't think that judge was going to the hospital. She'd been it's this has been the arbitrator for the last 2 years on this case. Right? So she's yeah. 2: So she knows better? 4: She knows better than the 0: Getting treatment for the fever. 4: Yeah. She's she probably was taking ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and budesonide right before that day. 3: Sitting in a bathtub soaking in it. 4: Right. Exactly. Alright. Corey, you've been so patiently waiting. 20: Yes. I don't know if somebody else has come across this or not, but it was a article 20 22 from PubMed. The title of the article is vaccination status and intensive care unit triage. Is it fair to give unvaccinated COVID 19 patients equal priority? And if you read through that article, you know, some of the things that says, almost feels like they had all this planned out. Plus, it's on nih.gov, so it's kind of, you know, very telling. I put a link to it in the bubble chat. 4: Interesting. 20: Like, here's what it says here. What we find difficult is that giving care to patients who have chosen not to be vaccinated has a knock on effect on other patients. We are still human beings, and we still get angry at things that we think aren't just, which was from Nikki Crudland in the British Association of Critical Care. And then another 1 said when you can't provide the services you feel you need for the rest of your community and other patients, You've got life limiting illnesses. There's a dis a degree of frustration and anger. But it just seems like, you know, I've have reading through that, it kinda, says the quiet part out loud. You know? They're basically saying that they had a protocol for people who weren't on the vaccine. 2: Yep. With a wink and a nudge, they they made it okay to discriminate against those who didn't participate in the great experiment. 4: And we've seen it. We've seen it. Like, you know, it not just in my case where as soon as I told the doctor I was unvaccinated, he patted me on the hand and he said, I'm so sorry, missus Seiler, but you're gonna die. Not only that, but we we also have, like, Shannon Pilgrim's case out there. And if you look under Texas, where the doctor that was in charge of her husband's care, the day her husband went into the ICU, he tweeted out, me and my staff would not be opposed to the unvaccinated being clubbed to death like baby seals. And as a subsequent, it was a nasty comment like that. And so, that is very telling. They definitely did I don't I mean, I don't think anybody can and that that's the division that they caused between us and and between us, between protocol, victims and the, and the the vaccine too. I mean, for a long time, there was a lot of, I don't know. What would you say? Angst or, you know, like, well, why should we feel bad for the vax injured? Well, why should we feel bad for the protocol victim? Like and we had to have that coming together to say, look. We're all part of the same fight here. It doesn't you know, they want us to hate each other. You know? They they want us to, like, they want us to even mock each other. So when I Yeah. 2: They put out articles why it's okay to mocks to mock the dead if they were unvaccinated. 4: Right. Right. 2: And why you should do that, and it's a good thing. 4: And I and I is and that's very wrong equally to mock people who took the shot and are injured. I I believe it it is like, when I see somebody died and they had been they had taken the shot, I don't think about even if they were cocky and just an asshole about it, my heart still hurts for that family and for the fact that they were so conned. And, also, I feel bad that they died an asshole. You know? I mean, nobody you know? 2: I'm I'm sorry. But those who were advocating for the the draconian mandates, including taking children away from unvaccinated parents, I have a very hard time feeling sorry for those 0: people. Well I second that, Chelsea. I second that. 4: Here's why I feel here's here's why I feel bad for them. And I it's not that I don't go, you f, you know, f'd around and found out. But because as as a Christian, they've gone to their final judgment, and I don't know what kind of person they were. And what grieves God, grieves me. And I can never celebrate that, I even the worst person dying, if I can I I just I'm not 2: I mean, I am very cognizant of the fact that these people, all of the people who went and got more than 2 2 of these shots 8: were 2: were were swindled by a military grade propaganda campaign, and they weren't they weren't prepared for that? They weren't prepared to defend themselves from that. So I will cut those people a lot of slack. Right. But when they when they went forward, when some of these and I believe mostly it was the journalist class pushing these narratives. I don't believe it was a lot of people. 3: It was the media. The media was the biggest proponent of it. They were the ones out there talking about how the that we should be put in, you know, like, reeducation camps. They were the ones who were talking about that we should be the ones who should die. You know? I mean, it was it was horrible. And and I can remember being in nursing and thinking to myself, good god. You know? What what the hell are you all talking about? And and that, you know, that that made a big impact on us and our our jobs as well. It swayed a lot of those people and the way that they acted toward people. And and it's wrong. It's wrong. It's it's it's sickening and poisoning and manipulating the mind. But if you think about it, the reason that they're doing that is to polarize people, to instill tribalism, to dehumanize them, and then eventually, that's what ends up making people kill people. 15: That's right. 5: It was a really neat 2: trick because they first they were saying, you know, because it was Trump's operation warp speed. So at first, they were like, oh, Trump's rushing this vaccine. We we can't take this vaccine. It's scary. He did warp speed. And then as soon as the power shifted, they were like, oh, you know, if you're not getting the vaccine, you're a crazy anti vaxxer, and you deserve to have your children taken away. So it was a bit of whiplash there too. And The New York Times was 1 of the worst purveyors of this, and they are now putting out articles about why they should politicize the weather. Yeah. So after successfully politicizing a virus and its treatment, now they wanna politicize the weather, and they're gonna use the same the same kind of things that they did for COVID to advance their climate agenda. 4: Isn't the New York's slime trash, though? 0: Yes. It's the New York garbage. Such trash. Didn't It's pure garbage. 4: Can somebody write a song about that, Chelsea? 2: Hashtag NYT is trash. 0: I heard you're gonna write that, Chelsea. 2: She did already. I did that already. It's it's penned, pinned at the top of the conspiracy mail who's down as a listener. 11: Yeah. 8: She 0: did. A little bit later. 19: Right. And But you know what? It was 3: Oh, I'm sorry. I was just gonna say 2: That's okay. I'm sorry. 19: I I just wanted to interject. It was Please do. Like you said, Mick, the media. It wasn't just, you you know, the newspapers. It was CNN. It was ABC, CBS. Oh, it's the vaccinated people that are gonna make you sick. It's the people that are unvaccinated. Those are the people that are gonna get COVID, and they're gonna die. They they were the narrative was pinning the vaccinated people against the unvaccinated people. That was their agenda. 0: Operation Mockingbird. Yep. 10: Mhmm. 2: Well said. Well said. Who else was wanting to say something there? There was a little bit of crosstalk. 4: That was Mick. 3: Oh, yeah. I was just saying that, you know, talking about whiplash, you know, at first, it was, you know, okay. Operation Warp Speed, and he and he's pushing too fast. And then they're like, and we don't trust that vaccine, and then they, you know, and then the regime gets in, and they're like, okay. Not just take the vaccine. We're gonna mandate the vaccine, you know, and and push it. And and, you know, then they locked arms with the World Health Organization to put in their equitable vaccine initiative, you know, so that they could push it. It's ridiculous. And and thank God it was found to be unconstitutional. But how many people lost their job? How many people were forced to take the vaccine that didn't wanna take it simply because they were like, why? I I I gotta have a job. 2: And we'll never know because many of those people aren't here to tell their stories, which is why we'll take stories from family and from friends because many times the family won't even understand what happened. 4: Or tell the story. Yeah. 0: Or those people are on their way out right now as we speak. 2: Sad but true. 15: I 4: told my mom, my mom and dad. I'm like, you know, I know you my mom and dad have taken every shot. They they trust their doctor. And I have already told them that when the shot kills them because they've had strokes and all this stuff, and I I don't know if they've I think they're still taking their the shots, but I'm gonna be putting their story on CHBMP.org and telling their story. My mom's like, don't you dare. I'm like, I'm gonna do it. You're gonna know the truth by then because you'll be dead. But, yeah, they keep getting it. You know? My mom 2: So my mom at least figured out something was wrong when she came down with stage 4 kidney disease shortly after 1 dose of Moderna. 4: Oh. 2: So I need to document her story with CHBMP too. 0: Yeah. Man, talk about some legalized killers from the Military Industrial Complex. 4: Yep. Exactly. Right? Mhmm. You know, you said and so so the CHD so the children's health defense bus, see, when you said legalized killers, they on the eighteenth, look to see if it's playing somewhere, you know, near you and get tickets. On the September 18, their documentary, vaxxed, unvaxxed 3, the people's it was the people's study that they started off their their bus trip around The United States with. I think the the the documentary is actually called licensed to kill. But, you know, they started off. They were going to do the, the vaxx stories like they do. This is the third time that they've done this best bus tour, and they decided to include, the protocol stories and, you know, quickly realized all the things we did. And we have we just sent everybody. We're like, sign up. Sign up. Sign up. We pushed it, like, constantly through this whole thing, and, I think it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be amazing to go see. We're gonna be going to the 1 in Dallas on the eighteenth. We will be at the theater there. And, Texans for Vaccine Choice has sponsored a lot of these showings at these theaters in Texas. So, look in on their website to find tickets or whatever. It really helps them know that they're filling the house. But see if there's 1 near you. Go to Children's Health Defense and and and look and go see it and support this, these showings because they'll show like, they've sold so many tickets for the eighteenth in Dallas that they're gonna also have a showing on the 20 fifth. And so the more people that go, the more they'll show it and the more people will the these these stories, the the shots, the whistleblowers, the protocol deaths, this is gonna be huge. This movie's gonna be huge. And I know they're trying to figure out a way to get it to the masses, but but the fact that it's gonna be in the theaters, we wanna keep it in the theaters as long as we can. 2: And it's amazing to me that Matt Walsh is able to get a movie into theaters across the country asking if he's racist, but the CHD movie is just in select theaters for 1 night. And that that speaks to, you know, where people's their attention, where people's attention is directed and where where people think they can make money. 0: Well, Matt Walsh is another guy. Their money. Matt Walsh is another guy that's controlled opposition, so it's it's not a surprise to me. 2: Yep. The people with with large platforms generally are because, the rest of us, you know, we we get through with a boot on our neck just as best we can to get through the shadow bands and, you know, make our voices heard. 4: Yeah. Mhmm. 0: Yeah. Come on, Shiela and Tusk. 4: Vin Black's gonna 2: Now he's he's done so much. Like, you you gotta imagine if we didn't have Elon Musk having taken over Twitter, we we wouldn't have a single clue what's going on right now because there is no there is no other, and I won't call it an uncensored platform, but it's a less censored platform Mhmm. Than, say, Facebook where people are getting deplatformed for even sharing stories and, and TikTok where, like I mentioned earlier, the David Dobson story was removed for alleged misinformation. And how they can accuse a father of spreading misinformation about his own experience in hospital with his son is beyond me. Like, that should be I don't know if, you know, that could be legally pursued because that is every bit as bad as what the rest of the institutions are doing, suppressing these stories. 4: Yeah. That's amazing to me because his son his son starved to death for god's sake. I, you know, I I'll be interested to see what Musk does now that, you know, yesterday, everything as of yesterday, everything he all of his private holdings, his corporate holdings, everything is in Texas. And so we all know that he didn't just purchase a platform, a social media platform, but he purchased the biggest database of crimes, treasonous crimes ever with regard to the I mean, he already did a, you know, a Twitter file dump to out to expose the f. 2: Is it just me, or did we did we lose count? 3: Yeah. No. I thought it was me. 0: No. We lost her. 3: Okay. 2: I was trying to check the chat before I asked in the in the space. But 3: Me too. 1: I was trying to check to see. I was like, 3: I think we lost Gail. 0: So I have to say 8: I'm on a fight. 2: She was on a freaking roll. Go ahead, Scott. 8: I was on my my Miller Family Pediatrics Facebook business page typing something. I was gonna share an experience. And it was, you know, it was like I always got, like, public service announcement. And it was about the hospitals, and it was a case that I had just been involved in. It was, like, mid 20 21, maybe late summer. And before I finished it, before I posted it, I got an alert that it could go against community guidelines. And I I, like, you know, command shift 4 on my Mac and took a screenshot of it. I'm like, I haven't posted it. Now it had sat for a while. It was, like because I had patients. I was, like, I was so, like, viscerally angry at something that had happened. I was, like, I have to share this. And I'd seen a couple patients, and I came back. And I saw that there's it was a warning that what I that this may this may go against community guidelines. I'm like, what the heck? I haven't posted it yet. I'm like, how it just blew me away. And, obviously, I'm not I mean, I know how you know you know, if you say words, you know, the next thing you see on your phone is a pop up ad for something. But the fact that I hadn't posted it yet was really I was like, this is this is sketchy. 2: Did did we lose Scott now? 3: We would think he might. 4: Got me back, and that's what's really important. 8: Yes. You are on a 2: roll, Gail. Can you pick up where you 8: left off? Because you were trying to Keep going. 4: Not a chance. Not a I can't even like, I get on a I get on these tirades. I get on these tirades and, you know, and it's funny. I'm like this when, like, with politicians too. Some of them will duck in the bathroom because they don't wanna answer hard questions. 8: But 4: so who's next? I see Jeremiah's with us. Is he next? 0: I hope he is. 4: I hope he is too. 2: Go ahead, Jeremiah. 21: Oh, thank you. Yeah. You know what? I was listening, and then I had to raise my hand or or request my mic finally when, that great comment was made about the whiplash effect. I love that literary term, and, I would have used it in my article. I left a, link to an article. I wrote it months and months and months ago, but I really I've I've mentioned it before. Sorry for people who think I'm being redundant, but just to piggyback off of what was previously said, in terms of this incredible I mean, I just I'm I swear I'm, like, almost have chills thinking about how absolutely incredible it was that people thought they were protesting Donald Trump by taking his rush to market vaccines. His MAGA jabs, as I call them, the operation warp speed vaccines. You know, people could think any kind of thing they wanna think this way or that way about politics. I won't weigh in about that stuff right now. It's simply a historical fact that operation warp speed was under the Trump administration. That is a hallmark of that administration. And, yes, Joe Biden went on television and said he wouldn't trust these shots. He said it incredulously. He said, who would take this? You're gonna take this? I don't wanna take it. I mean, he was that skeptical. And then to turn around and also in separate discussions, said that he would not and could not mandate these shots. He said, well, I wouldn't do that, and I can't legally. So then to turn around and months later mandate these things, aside from being total hypocrisy, I mean, I really want anyone who can hear my voice right now to really pause and think, what is going on, frankly, in in the like, I guess the the the word sytlicite comes to mind. The the the zeitgeist of our society that people would just sort of follow along with their leader in this hypnotic way, that they wouldn't any 1 of them, it seems, pause and say, wait a second. You exactly contradicted yourself what you said just a few months ago. I mean, we're not talking about something you contradicted, something you said 20 years ago. No 1 in the media in this whole country said, but Joe Biden, you said a couple months ago that you wouldn't and couldn't mandate these shots. You also said you didn't you wouldn't trust it yourself. So how could you punish people for not changing their minds when you did? Because I agree with your original statement. Yeah, I don't trust it. It was rush to market. I agree, Joe Biden. It's 1 thing we agree on. I don't trust the vaccines. But then you mandate it, and you're forcing me to change my mind with you. And then when he got to the point of then saying, he's getting he's losing his patience as he put it. 4: Oh, yeah. 21: Wow. Yeah. He he's talking to like, is he a does he think he's a pimp? I mean, 20: that's how a that's 8: how a pimp 2021, he did that. Yep. Right. It was September 9 where he said that he was losing his patience, and we needed to roll up our sleeves 19: Yep. 8: And obey. And it wasn't just Joe Biden. Like, you go back and you've seen, like, those video clips. It was almost all of the top Democrat leadership that said under no circumstances would they recommend getting this. And then, like you said, within a month and a half, 2 months, it was this complete shift of 21: The thing is, it's so incredible is so this article that I wrote that I'd love if you guys check it out if you get a second, it's it's called, If You Took the Trump Vaccine, You're a Trump Supporter. I Hate to Be the 1 to Break It to You. And it comes from, an activist moment that I wasn't there for as a friend of mine named, Kearu Wang, who was protesting the mandates very vehemently here in New York City. And she was protesting somewhere against mandates, and somebody yelled at her or yelled at the protesters, you know, get out of here, you Trump supporters. And she actually was not really a Trump supporter. She's not she's literally politically independent. She just was so horrified by the idea of a medical mandate. She wasn't really much into partisan politics in general in her whole life. So she said very innocently and naturally when they said to her, you know, get out of here, you Trump supporters. She said, well, you took the Trump vaccine. You're the Trump supporter. 4: Wow. 21: And that blew me away to the point that I wrote an article about it. 11: I like it. 21: Because, you know, I I just I I don't that is a Twilight Zone moment is what I'm getting at. There's there's a time warp. There's there's a there's a warp. There's a I I love being able to discuss this with this group here because to me, I I feel like, you know, the the Twilight Zone or whatever these weird shows are that, you know, like, where reality gets bent. I feel like that because I don't understand how people don't understand the significance of all I was just saying about how the shift happened and no 1 mentioned anything about it. That's why I said, wait. Did did we just pass through a black hole or something? Did did the Milky Way finally hit Andromeda? I'll land my 4: No. That's really good. That's really good. And and I don't like, you know, I I'm hoping that Robert Kennedy has this effect on Trump where he opens his eyes about some things. And don't get me wrong, nobody's thinking that Trump was sitting around with, you know, some beakers and a bunsen burner, you know, putting together this shot. But for the love of god, you know, does you know, you can't it's evident now, very evident now that people are damaged from it. Stop taking it. Stop pushing it. Stop, you know, just stop. Right? 2: Stop saying you can go get 4 4 of these injections at once as if they have any data to that effect. 4: Yes. Right. Please. 8: Well and it's not just that because what they're pushing you know, further pushing, you know, when as they're rolling out the new technologies, whether it's it's the, you know, for the, you know, the the 50 and up group. Right? I mean, there's so many vaccines that they're it's like the flu. I mean, I I will say as somebody that like I've said before, like, I author authorized the administration of, you know, probably, you know, over a hundred plus thousand vaccines for children. You can boo me. It's cool. But Boom. Compared like, shut up. My my that's warranted. I authorized it. But, you know, what they're you know, with with the you know, we think about it as just the COVID injections, these inoculations, but, you know, this is going to ramp up. I mean, I am actually, like, if I think when I think about it, I'm terrified for for our population, for all of the other vaccines, whatever you wanna call them, that are gonna be having the same technologies. And it's not going to be discussed. Right? It's like get your pneumococcal. Get your your, I don't see your plate. Cancer vaccine. Yeah. Or or it's the zoster vaccine, etcetera, etcetera for for your older populations. It's it's setting the stage for using these technologies to absolutely decimate our 50 to 70 year old group. 3: Well and even the even the children too. I mean, you know, look at all the vaccines, and I'm not just talking about COVID. You know? What? We used to give, what, maybe 5 or 7, and now we're given, you know, in a child up to the age of 2. And now we're given, like, 35. It's like and and hepatitis b. What? Are they having sex when they get born? Are they shooting up intravenous drugs? I mean, it's re 5: But do you let 8: me tell let me tell you something, Nick, though. I don't wanna interrupt it. As somebody that that recommended it, like, my kids got it. Both my son and daughter got hep B in the hospital. And you you know what? The education that I got going through peds and it was I mean, I don't even remember because it was it was so stupid. It was like it was it was something like giving it to them that age, like, that early on is going to help protect their immune system, you know, later on. Because you get it at birth. Right? You get it at birth 2 months. 4 months. Well, birth, 2 months, 6 months. Right? That's hefty. And then if you go into the military or into any health care, you would get it when you're going into the program. And I accepted that. Like, my brain accepted that as something that was okay. Like, well, then, yeah, that makes sense. I didn't think about it. I didn't go, Well, that doesn't make any sense. Why would you give something like that to to an organism, to a child, to a to a to a a neonate and then an infant that has a 0 point whatever, 0 0 0 0, you know, percent possibility of this happening. I was like, well, okay. Why? Because somebody told me it. 4: That's it. 8: Yeah. And I was like, okay. Yeah. That's reasonable. And I did it. 4: Lots of us. Lots of us bought that. 19: Right. Right. 4: I mean, I I did too, and I'm so thankful. Like, you know, the my first 2 grandkids, you know Really 8: try not to roll my eyes. Be like, mom, freaking moms. Like, I wanna look at the insert and, like, really? Like, I have to go get the insert and you're gonna read through it, and you're gonna be like, oh, here's the thing. Like, that's how I mean, that's how not just ignorant. It's how and I never said it. Like, I was actually I was I was a nice I was very nice about it. But in my head, I'm like, oh my god. What the what the f, mom? Like, you're literally killing me. Like, you're wasting my time. And what? You're pretending to know more about me? You know, know more about this than I do? When in fact, they knew infinitely more about it than I did because they gave a shit, and they took the time to do it. And they didn't get money. Like, here's this like, I've seen posts. I've seen people write in. I didn't make money off of it. It cost me money. Like, I had to have refrigeration you know, refrigeration and all what was that? Financially better to not have all to be able to do 4: Hey, Scott. I gotta stop you. Did you put your phone you were losing you. Did you put your phone on something cold like I told you to? 2: Or what seems to work for me is frequently closing the space on my phone, close all apps, and then come back to it. And then whatever is bugging out my phone will be resolved, and I can talk again. 4: Lots lot less of a pain in the ass to just put it on something cool. 2: Yeah. That does not, that does not always work for me. But but the phone does get hot, so it's a it's a good thought. 4: That sounds okay. We got is who is next? Is it Laura or is it 2: Well, I wanted to give Jeremiah a chance to follow-up. 4: Okay. He's 21: Yeah. I was just gonna say about the whole hepatitis thing and and just this various schedule, you know, this extensive schedule now that they have for the kids. I mean, I I call it the 1, 2, 3 strikes and you're out. Strike 1 is why are you trying to give hepatitis shots to kids the day that they're born? That just just medically, logically just doesn't make any sense. Like, you mean to say nature just made everything perfectly except you need a hepatitis shot too. I mean, it just does it's counter evolutionary. I mean, just off the top of your head, it doesn't make sense. And then this extensive schedule. Like, okay. If we believe in vaccines whatsoever to begin with, really, I mean, you need 72 shots to exist on the planet. You were gonna get some disease and die if you didn't get all of these injections. Is that really required? And and have you done any which I know they haven't. I forget the technical term, but just basically referencing the the the cross effects of mixing medicines, basically, the the extensive vaccine. They've done no research in terms of, well, how do all these things interact together? And then the big strike 3 and, you know, this was this was, you know, the COVID thing that they were trying to give this garbage to 6 month old children. I mean, what data do they have to support an agenda for that? 15: You know? No. So they they 21: have showed just such reckless disregard for our children that we're you know, we have to realize what we're what we're facing here and what we're up against. I mean, look, you have major organizations, the FDA, CDC, whatever. These organizations are so corrupt. They are so captured. We need to have these organizations literally just end it. They need to be restarted, maybe renamed. Everyone needs to be arrested, fired, arrested. You know, we need all new people, all new institutions. They've totally traded trust. It's like it's I'm trying to think of an analogy. It's almost like, you know, if you if you lift up a a rotten piece of wood or something, and there's like, woah. There's a lot of maggots in there. You know? Where look at all this, you know, feces and mag it's like, woah. This is, you know, this is nastier than we thought when we unearthed what we found there. And then you have the physicians where, you know, we could debate the level of culpability. Some of them we could argue, well, this is criminal behavior, actually. But then you could say, okay. Well, they didn't know what was going on. That's not really a good explanation either. You know? You're you're my medical physician. You're supposed to be taking care of the health of my family, and you're just sort of injecting any old thing that they told you to go and inject into people. That's not really what I had in mind when I thought I had a doctor that that was helping keeping my my family safe. So, you know, the only thing that we can, I'd say, give 1 feather in the cap to of contemporary medicine is emergency room medicine. You know? I'll I've tip my cap to them. You know? If if you get your arm cut off, they'll try to sew it back on. They'll do a damn good job. If you go get burned to death, damn near to death, they'll try to save your life. They just might save your life. So emergency room medicine, thumbs up for that. But all of this pharmacology has got to go. 2: Just don't let them give you a COVID test. 4: Right. 2: I I was gonna say, you know, you mentioned institutional CAPTCHA. Our our founder had originally, when he is brainstorming our our citizens task force, referred to it as the citizens task force against institutional capture. So, that was that was kind of the inception of that. And, anyone who is interested in stopping this institutional capture can learn more about the task force at ffctf.org. Mary, you've had your hand up for a while. What do you wanna ask? 18: I just wanted to say, this is kinda off the track of where, Jeremiah was. But through all of these last 4 years, At 1 point, there was a big controversy with Fauci, and it was, oh, wear the mask. And everybody was, those that didn't wanna wear a mask were mad at people who had mask on and were looking at us like we were a big elephant, polka dotted elephant in the supermarket or whatever. So everybody was and everybody was angry, if you remember, when you went, shopping or whatever. And stay away from me because you got the plague, and you're not even sick. And then it came to 1 day, I just said, you know what? The masks aren't working. Now they're saying that the masks aren't working. And I'm like, well, how can they say the masks aren't working when they have those paper shitty things when you go in the operating room? And being down in Philadelphia, you know, the major hospital down there was University of Penford, so it's a teaching hospital. So that's the best place to go. And you can go outside and take a break, and you see ER I mean, not ER, operating people going in and out for coffee or whatever on the streets of Philadelphia with those things on their shoes, the paper slippers. And every time I'm down there, I think, well, how the hell does that work? Are they going back into the Operating Room with those same slippers on? I mean, they don't even take them off to go outside. So I know this is really kinda a light topic, but at 1 point, I just said, well, screw the mask. You can't breathe. It's causing even more problems for people that have respiratory issues like me because I would get really dizzy. And, when you think about it, if the mask weren't working, they they finally come out with that, like, 6 months after after it started the topic. Are they working? Are they not working? And then they figured out that they're not really working because it's still being spread. And, I'm like, well, if those masks what would they call the numbers? The big heavy duty ones. If they're not working, how could that piece of tissue in the operating room work? So all of this stuff that we're being fed all the time, it's just bullshit. It's just all bullshit. And we are being coerced and supposedly believe in other people that know what's good for us. And I've never been a sheep. I was a sheep during COVID because I have respiratory problems, and my sons insisted that I get the shot. I got 2 of them, and I would never. And I didn't wanna get it because I told you before about the flu shot. So, you know, I think it's come to a time in our world, the whole world, where we need to stop and think for ourselves and stop being told what to do. I don't care if the bubonic plague comes again. If if you're going down, you're gonna die like that. You're gonna die like that. But these people don't have our best interest, and we're all it's as plain as it could be, and that's an understatement. But, I just want to say that about the mass and and the fact that they they treat us like we're stupid. That's what's the most insulting thing about all this. So thank you for listening. 3: I know. Appreciate it. I you know? Absolutely. Who is who is next? Chelsea? 2: I think 3: Laura? Steph 4: Yeah. Laura Laura dropped. 2: Laura, you should you should request again if you wanna come up. I'm I'm really happy to see Steph is on, and then Scott keeps trying to get back on my Scott and then Daryl. 13: Hey, guys. How are you? 6: Hey. Hey, Steph. Good. 13: Happy. You're still on late. I just got home from work, and I jumped on, and I've heard a bunch of awesome stuff. So I'm kinda, I just wanted to circumvent circum back to a couple things. And, actually, I I I did wanna direct my question towards Scott, if he's back on. You know, my brilliant my brilliant friend, Scott Miller. Stephanie from New Jersey has a question. And it kinda covers what we were talking about, what I was listening to earlier about the the the murder, you know, if it's murder and looking at charges like that and fraud and how, you know, we see things working in that direction. And Scott, I'm wondering, I don't know if you, have experience with this because it would it's a hospital situation. But just knowing with your education and background, I'm trying to figure out exactly which area I mean, besides malfeasance, like, this situation would fall. So we have found in the, you know, significant number of cases that we are handling, the records and filing cases with here in my great state, that almost every single situation, of these victims when they were ventilated and heavily sedated with the full load of drugs. You know what they are. The orders do not the orders do not match the administration of the medication. So the order the doctor order, for instance and I know I've spoke to this to others before, but I really need to know exactly how to phrase this In my summary, the doctor's orders read for the, for set sedation drugs, paralytics, etcetera, you know, fentanyl, midazolam, all of them titrate to achieve a RAS, which is the Richmond agitation sedation scale of a minus 2. That was the order written by the doctor. To titrate to harass of minus 2, which is lightly sedated, easily arousable. Those orders were never changed in all of these records that I have read in all of these cases we have filed. The orders were never changed. The titration parameters were never changed. Every single 1 of these patients were snowed. They were unresponsive, and they were oversedated. So I'm trying to when I am writing this summary for the attorneys. And and I wrote it exactly how it is, because I have the record set back up to show that they 2: were 13: unresponsive. I mean, you can't do a perler check when you can't open up open their eyes to even see. But 8: Well, even when you when you look at their physical exam. Right? I I've I've probably read through a hundred thousand pages of of people that have passed away, people that have been killed. Right. Right? And even when you look at their physical exam, like, on auscultation, right, where where so I I don't I didn't mean to cut you off, but it's like there's there's so much like, I'll read through it, and I just like, I'll print it off, and I have my pen. And I'm, like, crossing things out, and I I I'm just furiously writing. And it's so not to just it's so hard for every word to not be a swear word 13: Right. 8: Because it's so egregious. It's so overtly egregious. But but I mean and I'm gonna just I'm gonna I'm not gonna take too much time, but I'm gonna go back even before you get to that point. Before they get to the point of mechanical ventilation. If they had m and m's, right, if they did morbidity and mortalities on these people Right. And on these victims, on these human beings that have names with families and loved ones, not just victims, not just patient a, b, and c. And if you looked at their ProCal and Ferritin 2: Right. 8: And and WBC counts, like, all of those things, like, we could nail them Right. On all of those things. But then what you're talking about when you get to the so I'm so sorry. So keep going. Keep going. 13: Well, yes. And I agree with you with exactly what you said 100%. Like, the the negligence, the, you know, malpractice, that was all the blatant disregard was all there prior to the ventilator. No doubt about it. But what I'm trying to say, what I'm looking for is how how to exactly this this situation, which I know is it's wrong, and to me, it's murder because you are you are disregarding the written order by the doctor, and you are overly sedating these patients, and then the doctors are coming back and evaluating the same patient that they wrote the order for to be lightly sedated, and they are unresponsive, that I mean, not only is that mal in my eyes, that's not only malpractice, but it's definitely murder. The people died. Right? 8: But you and even in the basics, it's practicing below the standard of care, which needs to be investigated. 13: Yes. Yes. Yes. 8: Just at a baseline level. Right? Like, we don't even have to get crazy. Right. Right? It's practicing below the standard of care. 13: Correct. So my thing is this PREP Act, right, and standard of care, which would probably be considered something covered under the PREP Act. 8: No. No. No. Not I'll just say this because I was I was supposed to be covered under the PREP PREP Act. Prep, there's there's 2. There is oh, what was the other 1? I've tried to delete some of the stuff out of my head. Yeah. But but but, you know, when you're looking at when you're looking at certain protocols, at a certain point, you're like, the PREP Act doesn't cover it's covering what treatments you're doing, but it doesn't it's not covering negligence in the dosages that you're using, like fentanyl. Right. And I mean, I'm a fan of ketamine and certain but fentanyl and propofol, etcetera, etcetera. I mean, they were, like you said, they were snowing them. They were literally purposely suppressing their respiratory system, etcetera. Keep going. 13: Yes. Yes. So that's my point. And they blatantly disregarded the doctor's orders and continued to over sedate these patients, and they died. So if I okay. So I'm a bartender, and if you come in and you ask me for a drink with a single shot and I continue to overpour your drinks and you're intoxicated and you die, I am charged with murder. I am responsible for your death because I over sedate I overserved you. 11: Well, I didn't understand. Yes. 13: If I mean, it you know, the accountability needs to be there. 8: Oh, it's huge. So I'm 13: trying to figure out I mean 8: There's there's more accountability on bartenders than than intended care physicians. 13: Correct. 100%. But the so I know that that it's that it's that. But is it, you know, in my eyes, I'm like, it's false claims. Because these patients should not have been even receiving more fentanyl that they're being charged for. They should have the the nurses should have stopped it. They should have stopped when it was out of their scope. When it was out of their scope of assessment because they were more than likely sedated, they should have stopped giving the medication until the order was changed. 8: Well and it's not out of the nurses' scope. I'm a labor and delivery nurse. And, you know, for you know, in 23 years, I'll tell you that the number of lives because of her demand for an intervention, obstetrician gynecologist to come in or to make a call for medications to be given or or or intervention to be given. Right? So the nurse nurses are just I mean, yes. There's different response on on on us, but nurse is new. 4: Yes. 8: Based on so it's not just I I it's the last it's the you're right in the book, and it's the hardest 1 for me because I was so angry at the nurses because they were the gatekeepers to the doctors in the hospital until I met them. And we had these sit downs, and they were telling me what was happening and what they were going through. And and and they, you know and, obviously, they they lost their jobs because they didn't get the shots, and they came over to to volunteer. And they were telling me the stories. I was like, how did you go home at night? How did you go home at being told by a pulmonologist to go in and and extubate a 33 year old woman with her grandmother with her mother and son looking through the window as you gave life ending medication, pulled out a tube that was keeping her lungs, like, perfusing oxygen and killed her as she's you know? And she just broke down crying, and I was like, oh, that was a shitty question to ask somebody I just met. 4: A shitty question to ask somebody you just met. Why was that a shitty question? Because I wanna know the answers to those questions, and I'm not sure that they could come up with a good number of 8: Because these are because these are so so same thing. And and I I'm gonna be really brief with this. Like, if if you look at the like, if I printed if if I printed off everything that was ever said about me in the contrary, I literally look like the devil. I shit you not. It's so comical. I mean, it's, like and it it's creative, but it's so the people that were working for me, my my staff, my m a's, the volunteer people, the nurses I sent out into the field, into these homes I work with to save these people's life. I'd like they could look at me and be like like, let's say that we failed 50% of the time versus the hospital where it was 90% of the time. But let's just say we failed 50% of the time. And and then they looked at it that objectively was like, well, it's like flip of the coin. Is this really working? Is this or are we contributing to these debts? Like, if we would have sent them to the hospital. I'm just saying that when you when you're a nurse and you're working under, you know, like, a pulmonologist or an intensive doctor and you've spent 8 years there and you respect them, I mean, like, up until COVID, they actually saved lives. Well And and you well, I mean, comparatively. I mean, like, comparatively, what we what we saw point. Like, somebody goes into the somebody that walked into the hospital that didn't leave with, like, with asthma, pneumonia. 2: I think I think he's breaking up again. 8: Go ahead. 4: You're breaking 8: up 4: a little bit. But, I I guess my they if they're if they know that what they were doing was harming and killing patients it's different. I I don't have a problem with the failure rate. I don't have a problem with trying 8: But but, Gail okay. So I got to a I got I got to a point where I'm like, is really vaccinating 2 month, 4 month, and 6 month olds okay? And and, like, there's an aspect in my brain where, like, I've been doing this since 02/2007. So, like, you have to, like, you have to have a real, real serious gut check. Like, you have to 4: It's called it's called an exam it's called an examination of conscience. But here's the difference. Here's the difference. If you don't know if some if a nurse was hanging bags of remdesivir and she didn't know that it was the the worst thing if that it was killing patients and it was harming them and this and that. There's a period of time in which it's okay to not know that. The but somebody who's watching, you know, 90 percent of the patients that they hang a a bag of remdesivir and give other drugs to, they're and they know that this doesn't make sense, that the standard of care changed, and it doesn't make sense to not feed a patient, to not give them breathing treatments if they have pneumonia, to not get them there's all these things that they always did that they did at 8: But the the indoctrination of it care about The indoctrination of it from the staff administration downwards. When, like, it's like our our school systems, right, where it just happens so much more, like, shockingly more quickly in our hospital systems where it was just that's just COVID. That that means, literally, those 4: There there were there was indoctrination with the Nazis too, but they still were killers. Like, I I mean, I'm I I have and maybe I have a cold, cold heart because they tried to kill me, Scott. But I I will tell you a nurse's tears about I don't know. Why did I kill people? I I'm so sorry that I killed people. Yeah. We want whistleblowers to come forward. We wanna protect whistleblowers and all that crap. But I I don't have a lot of compassion, and maybe I need to talk to some of these, these nurses who these killer nurses who decided that they're sorry that they killed people, it might maybe I need to talk to some of them. But for right now, I do know 1 thing. I know that my husband goes on trial in 2 weeks, and he goes on trial because doctors and nurses tried to kill me. And when he called the police to to to help me at the hospital, they said they didn't have a protocol for that. And and and he had to do something so drastic. Nobody will ever know the hell that happened and how hard it was, but we had to do that. He had to do that because nurses that he trusted did not stand in the way between his wife and harm. And instead instead, those nurses and those doctors agreed together as a group to experiment on human beings and to to literally intentionally kill the unvaccinated, I don't know that there is a whole lot of 8: Well, listen, Gail. I'm I'm I'm standing on a dock in East Texas because because I did everything within my work to undo all of that. And my my point I agree. I mean and and I were just talking about this today because I listened to a sermon, some some of the Adventist. You know? So I I didn't go to church, Shelley, and my daughter had gone to a horse show on Dallas. And she was listening to a sermon, and I was listening to a sermon. And almost at the exact same time, we sent a text back and forth to each other on sermons. 1 was on faith. 1 was on Abraham, and the other 1 was on forgiveness. And she was listening to it, and she's and it was she sent it, and I listened to it. And and she told me and she said, I have to forgive the WMC. Not just forgive them, but ask for God to give them their favor. And she was she didn't say f that, but she was like 4: So that's not I don't believe that. 8: Yeah. 4: Forgiveness doesn't mean I'm sorry. Forgiveness does not mean that they don't that they're not held accountable. I don't want them to go to hell. 8: That's my point. Justice. 4: Forgiveness is I don't want 8: them to 4: go to hell. But but they but forgiveness is not that we just let them have a few tears and we say, it's okay, baby. Like, they murdered people. They murdered people. 8: Oh, Gail, I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna burn it down. Like, there's it like, I can I can like, there's forgiveness, but there's justice? Right? Like and, like, I don't dwell in because she was talking about, like, lost and and the impact. And so 5: You know you know 4: what nurses offer you know what nurses if if a nurse has the moral courage, I'm a throw this challenge out there in case there's any listening. If a nurse or a doctor who was a killer and is now not killing people, who realized that they were killing people and said, I'm not gonna do that anymore, wants to come forward, I'll be happy to interview them. I would love to interview them, and they should go public with with that fact. But I'm so but, like, what I don't like is the nurses who killed people, murdered people, and then, you know, then cried after they lost their job because they wouldn't take the jab. They're the ones that helped create the environment and the fear factor for people to roll up their sleeves and take the jab. They're not just responsible for the people that they killed in the hospital. They're responsible for the people that were so afraid that they took that shot. And and so I think as a matter of reparation, as a matter of restitution to the to humanity, they should come forward and be as public as they can about what happened in these hospitals so that we're so that these widows and widowers and mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and daughters and sons and survivors are not gaslit by saying that didn't happen to you. This didn't happen to you. How do you how do we know that happened to you? Maybe that's just your those poor nurses were overworked. How do you know it wasn't that? I want those nurses to come forward and say and those doctors have to come forward and say that they did this and that that I don't care. Like, whatever their story is, I want them to validate what we know is happening in the hospitals. And you know what? They can reach me at gail.seiler@formerfedsgroup.org, or they can reach out to me on Twitter, Facebook. They can email me, and I will give them my phone number so that we can have a conversation. And then I want them to to that right there, that's boldness. That's that's moral courage. And I know you're morally courageous, Scott, and and all of that, but until 1 these people are quite honestly the worst in society until they come forward publicly. 2: The the thing is even if they do, and there are a scant few who actually are, but even if those brave people do work up the courage to come forward, it's not going to nobody's going to hear it if the media doesn't also reconcile with what they've done. 4: That's right. That's right. 8: Absolutely. But There's the media, but but there's also the grassroots aspect. The the problem is there's no backup. Right? Like, when, you know, when how do I 3: Well, we can't even get back up from the sheriff. I mean 8: Well, I'm just saying, like, I'm just saying, no. It's not just that. It's like like, to personally do it. Right? Like 4: What do you mean no backup? 8: Like, for people well, for people in the for people in the hospitals that, like, say lost their jobs, they didn't lose their licenses. Right? 4: Yeah. 8: Like, I didn't just you know, I lost my license. I lost, you know, I lost a business. I lost my ability to, for all intent and purposes, to function as an adult human being in society. Even when I started Miller Wellness, like, I spent a scrap And 4: I know I know you've suffered in 8: No. No. No. Not suffered. I've I've I've I've gone through challenges. 4: They don't have backup. They don't have 8: Well, there's nobody there there's like, when you when you do that. Right? Like, we had this we had this huge debate. So there's, like, Patriots United. 5: It's like, 8: how do we support I know. 5: There's no How 8: do we support? 4: Support. There's 8: no support. Like, when you 4: Let me tell you how they do it. You know how these widows are supporting themselves? And and all of these people that don't have you know, you just heard, Cheryl talking about, you know, the situation that that her the loss of her her of her husband, the killing of her husband caused on her life. This is how they do it. They do it like any of us do it. They they just gotta freaking figure it out. That that might mean that how whatever 5 year whatever 5 year annual plan they had may have to change. 8: Right. My my point though is it's it's like how do I say this? So when you have tragedy, right, where it's, like, horrific things versus actively choosing it, right, where you go and that's where it's stepping out in faith. I mean, that's that was my point of, like, I sent Shelly 4: Okay. We lost you at I sent Shelly. 6: Yeah. 2: We'll let Jeremiah pop in with his, his question. 8: It was it was an odd dichotomy. 15: Oh, we lost you there. 8: There's there's a difference when you 4: Okay. Scott, you gotta log 8: back out. 4: Scott, you're gonna have to log back out, log back in because your phone is 2: Yep. Just close x close x and then come back. 4: Missing so much. 2: Jeremiah, go ahead. Yeah. 21: I was just gonna say, you know, as far as, the media coming in coming to some kind of reckoning or something like that, it's not gonna happen. Like, the media Robert Malone actually used a really good term, I think, in in regard to that discussion, which is it's not the media working in collusion with pharma at this point. They're fully integrated. It's an integrated system. Like, they are not to be trusted. They're not gonna suddenly turn around and create, like, a countermechanism against what they are. We need to foment, basically, the destruction of that system, not physically FBI or whoever is listening. And I mean, symbolically, through not listening to them, first of all, and through investing in the alternative channels of information. I mean, that's the 1 good thing that's come out of all of this is it's a new era of information. It's the open source media movement that's underway now. Like, my guest, 2 times on the baseline, who's a big inspiration to me, actually, Ryan Christian of Last American Vagabond, did great coverage of COVID and was breaking down a lot of the hypocrisy and contradictions and everything. And you can reach out to Ryan. You can reach out to James Corbett and challenge them about what they've presented. You can say, oh, well, this is wrong, and they'll address you on air. You know, if you share information with them that is relevant to the ongoing discussion, they'll mention it on air. Ryan will and give you credit for it. He'll say, oh, someone just sent me some great information, and, you know, thanks to so and so, you know, I I was aware of this or or the other thing. You can do reporting right in your own neighborhood. You know, there's all kinds of absurd things and incredible things that are happening in cities and towns all over the place, and it never made the media. It wasn't on the local news, and that was that. But you can report it. You can report it on Twitter going live. You can take video on your camera or whatever. I mean, even you as an individual taking 30 seconds to express your opinion in a video clip is legitimate. It's valid. Because you know what? There's all these experts, and they didn't mention what you said. They didn't observe what you observed in your neighborhood or just in your own mind. So we're we're at this new phase where it's sort of like the enlightenment or whatever the period was where people stopped using the mediation of the priest. You know, first, it was like, you're not allowed to read the Bible. You need the priest to interpret it for you. And then people said, well, you know what? We're just gonna read the text for ourselves. 4: Hang on, man. I gotta stop because I'm 5: Catholic. 4: I gotta stop because I'm Catholic. We've always been allowed to read the Bible. We do read the Bible. That's total myth. We it's not remediation through a priest. It's called the sacrament of reconciliation, and I love it. It is my favorite sacrament in the world, but it is not that is a myth. So just kinda just please. I I get what you're saying, but don't that's a myth. 21: Yeah. I mean, I don't know the whole history of of religion, But it has been used as a political instrument. That's for certain. 8: I mean, it's been 21: imposed on people in a violent manner. That's more of the aspect from which I'm coming from. But, yeah. I mean, in any case, there's no reason for mediation or interpretation at this point through corporate interests that are directly against us through their actions and through their their objectives. 4: Yep. And certainly, we shouldn't be funding it on top of that. 8: Gail, can I can I can I jump in to just finish off what I was trying to say? Yeah. 4: Yeah. If you can, that's much clearer. That's much clearer. 8: Okay. Okay. So the this is the thing that I would say for me, personally. Me taking a stand, I was able to directly directly impact people. I so for a nurse, they're able to counsel make recommendations. They're they follow doctor's orders, but they can they can counsel. So for a nurse to stand up and speak out, and in doing so, likely lose their license when 21: or or 8: I how do I say it? Like, what I was doing every day, I was able to to treat and and make, if you will, make the bad go away for thousands of people. A nurse needs a a a doctor or provider to give them the ability to do that. So for them, just stand them and say, I disagree with this and and, you know, push back. Is it the right thing to do? Yes. But then what what's the end gain of that? And for the most part, it would just be, like, losing your job and being screwed. How many whistleblowers are there? I mean and and then the media suppression of it. So there's an aspect of you know? So you, you know, you you do it, you know, you whisper it. Right? Like, that's how I started. Like, in in February and March of 20 20, I was whispering to people. I was whispering to families. I was writing stuff down on paper. I'm like, tell everyone you know. 4: Yeah. I did. 0: Like, I 8: would write all this stuff down. But but because I wasn't sure. Right? I was like, I had a hunch. It was what I was studying. But because I had the ability to physically actively treat. But when you've got, you know, like, with, say, nurses in the hospital, I mean, they can and, again, I listen. 20: Until 8: September eighteenth of 20 21, like, I just wanted to drive tanks into hospitals and blow up 6 4 except for the patients except for the patients. I wanted to, like, blow everybody else up and then go in and treat the patients and get them home to their families. Like, I was able to do for the, you know, like, everybody else. But but it's different. I I the 1 aspect of that is, like, when you don't have prescribing power, when you don't have treatment power So To to go against the system, to whistle blow, all you're doing is is bringing hellfire against you. And should if everyone would have done it, like, if everyone in the know would have done it, we could have changed like, we could have stopped this damn near instantly, even without media. But I I give them grace because I don't because if I don't give them grace, then I'm just filled with hate. And I don't I I don't wanna live like that because I have to try and understand, you know, like, even listening to Shelly where I mean, like, the the fights that we've gotten into through through these times where she's like, why are you doing this? I'm like, because 5: I get it. 8: Because I've been asked to 4: do it. 3: I I get it. 4: But, you know, I I don't give people a pass past 20 20. If they if they were duped in 2020, that's 1 thing. But these these nurses and doctors who took part in this, you know, what they could do is they could help connect the nurses and the doctors with the victims that it happened to, and we could hold these hospital administrators and hire accountable, but they won't do that. They won't do it. I 8: that I I agree. I agree with me. 4: If, you know, even to to not I mean, the we're watching this unfold in in California even where the the doctors will admit that they were told well, we were told by the administration, this is the only treatment we could give, blah blah blah blah. Right? And but if if these nurses and doctors came forward and they said, I you know, at the beginning, I I I questioned it and I was put and pushed back. I'll I'll give you a perfect example. I'll give you a perfect example. Case in Texas. Roland Roland's brothers were both murdered something like 7 months apart in 2 Texas hospitals. They didn't know exactly what happened with his 1 brother, who was, you know, he wasn't unhealthy. He was he competed in a mister universe competition for god's sakes. Both of his his brothers were pretty healthy until a nurse came forward and said to came to the funeral actually and told them that the the doctor had to Google how to vent his brother, and that's what killed 1: him. And 8: Now you're you're freaking ruining the sermon that Shelley sent me. 4: Stop. I mean No. 8: I am getting pretty pale. Like like, the rage that I have, like, I I like, yeah. It's like I try to give myself some some space for grace when I don't want to give 4: it to them. The nurse went the nurse went and and filed the complaint with the hospital. They, of course, you know, penalized her and put out a memo to doctors or training to doctors that if they didn't know and they weren't familiar with how to vent a patient, that they should be doing it only and practicing only on the elderly. 8: Oh, Jesus. 4: And so What? So she she now I I consider that her to she lost her job, obviously. Right? You know? Because she raised a fuss about this. And, and and so so I see her as partial whistleblower. Right? She's trying to help the family. She's trying to help the family. But, you know, I would like for her to really come out and just be very public about what happened. And now, you know, that would be ideal. But so so, like, I I guess, you know, people have I I don't really have compassion. I'm sorry. And maybe I maybe I'm somebody tell me if I'm wrong about this. I do not have compassion for well, I what would I do? What would I do to support my family? What would I do to do this, to do that, to whatever? We're talking about we're not talking about I saw a nursing assistant or a doctor steal money from a patient, and I didn't report it. We're talking about the fact that lives are destroyed, children are orphaned, widows are trying widows have lost their freaking houses because their their their their husbands have been murdered. The I mean, the what are what about that? And we're not talking about we're not talking about some medical malpractice where a cup cup you know, 10 people died or there was a, you know, a doctor or nurse that was killing 10 people or 15 people, and then he got caught and then he was prosecuted and blah blah blah blah. We're not talking about that. We're talking about over a million people. Over a million people. In 2020, I can give people a lot of leeway, the propaganda, the suppression of information, the all that stuff. By 2021 by 2021, you'd better start to have woken up if you were in the medical field. By by the time I was in the hospital in December of 20 21, I can remember that cocky that cocky nurse, that nurse nursing, that PA, that physician's assistant that stood there behind doctor Quach. When doctor Quach said he I was gonna die and he blah blah blah and all that crap. And and ivermectin was dangerous and hide all the patients who get ivermectin died, so that's why they don't give it all the gaslighting. I can remember saying to her, asking her if she knew who the frontline doctors were. And when she said she never heard of them, I that that was the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. Like, you I don't I just don't give these people if they didn't know 8: You know, I don't I don't I don't give anyone a pass because I'm a nobody that when this first started. And Shelley Shelley actually wrote about it today after after we're I I asked her to write about her journey through it. And the first thing that she said to me in in, like, February, beginning of March, when she heard me talking about it and there were no treatments, she's like, well, can't you, like, reverse engineer it and figure out how to treat? And I was like, wow. She gives I was like, She she gives me a lot of credit. Like, I'm not that smart, but I'm super curious. Mhmm. I don't like unknowns. But that that was her fur like, not like, uh-oh. Like, there was no uh-oh. She was like, well, Scott, just like, can't you figure it out? And I was like, probably. Like, God like, God uses like, he's given us a brain and, you know, and and especially, like, with how we pray. It's like, lord, like, give me the insight. Like, give me the holy spirit to guide me through. And and all of the, like, the downloads and the things that he led me to, you know, part of my brain wondered what what did 1,200,000 other providers pray for over that time? It was, like, in the very initial time frame, what did they pray for? Did they pray for for discernment and understanding and knowledge and and guidance and how to treat, or did they just curl up in fear? Like and so, you know, I I I I literally wonder that because, like, why why didn't all of us as providers just, like, like, coalesce together and, like, let's defeat this? 4: I I will tell you I I will tell you exactly why because most of them, first of all, are godless. I I I I witnessed it myself. There's there's a lot I'm telling you there's a lot of evil. 8: Most of the But I'm talking I'm talking about my friends. Like, Gail, that's like, I'm talking about, like, my friends. 4: Okay. And how many how many okay. So if you're talking about your Christian friends, most of the time, it I mean 8: None of them did anything. 4: Yeah. So they probably, you know, they probably ignored what you know, a lot of time okay. The the there's a there's a scripture in the bible and it's it's people misinterpret it. They think it says, listen up, oh lord. Your servant is speaking, and it's actually speak, oh lord. Your servant is listening. People don't know how to shut the hell up and listen to god. Because if if they're if he's telling you to do something super easy, it's probably not him telling you. 8: No. Well, and you've heard me tell the story about about whether or not I went to went to the capitol and and spoke. I mean, it was it was like a, like, a literal difficult 10: Mhmm. 8: Like, it was biblical. It was it was like, it it felt like like what I like like, when I'd read scripture where I was wrestling with God, and it where I was like, alright. Alright. If if this is what you think I'm you know? And then I I think about, like, just the way that I even I I mean, I so viscerally remember that night. I I remember where I was standing in the back back part of our property, almost angry that I was having to have this conversation because I should have been in bed. And I think part of or or a huge component of I would say, the I would say the going back to 4: Are we losing Scott again, or is it me? 3: I no. I think it's I think we lost Scott again. 8: Says I am here. Not please don't make me do this. And this is after this is after God had had promised made the promise that Isaac would be, like, his descendants would basically, like like sorry. It's super late. But but his descendants would would populate the world. 2: Yeah. 8: Right? So it's like well, if that's the case, if and and I kill him, that that that can't be true. And so when when he has you know, he's on the altar and he has the knife raised and God says to him, Abraham and he and he says, I am here. Mhmm. And that's when God 4: Provided him. 8: God called him a faithful servant. Right? And I was thinking about it. It's like so for Abraham, he had to believe, like like, because of the promise God had made, he had to believe that even if he had gone through with it, that God would, I don't know, like, would 4: Be true to his word. 8: Be true to his word. He would he would re revive his life, that he would, like, just follow me. Trust me. Follow me. Because what happened to Sarah when the angel said that she would conceive and she laughed? And she was made dumb for the entirety of the pregnancy. Right? And we have lived this. Like, I have personally lived biblical times where I have I have talked to God. I have defied God. I've at 1 point, on September seventh of 20 21, I cursed God, literally. Like, I literally cursed God as I backed into Shelly's car as I was driving off to go try and undo something. And I remember I hit her car, and I was like, f me. And I was like, f you. And I sat there, and I started crying Because, I I mean, I hadn't slept in so long, and I just spent 31 hours in a boat in the middle of the Rogue River. You know? And I said, f you to God. And I was like, oh my gosh. What did I just do? What did I just do? And I I remember looking up. I'm like like, I don't even know if I said I'm sorry. I I was just like, like, you know, just it would like, we you know, we're like, how do I undo what I just said? And then it's just, like, god, please forgive me. Like, please forgive what I just said. Like, I did not literally did not mean that. But 4: Kinda like in Bruce Almighty where he was like, oh, smite me. Oh, smitey 1. And then he was like yeah. I get it. I get it. 5: And then God was like, 4: that was a good 1. I'm not 1 for blasphemy, but that was a good 1. Now I get it, Scott. I get it, Scott. And and 8: Did you just say I'm not 1 for blasphemy? 4: That's what if you've ever seen Bruce all my 8: Yeah. I I have. 4: Morgan Freeman, I think is god. He goes he tells him, he goes, no. I'm not 1 for blasphemy, but smite me, oh, smitey 1 was a good 1. That that's what he's that's what he said to him. I get it. You know, like, so I'm curious I'm curious about something. So your friends that that didn't do the right thing, did they stand up for you in in your defense in front of the medical boards? No. I didn't think so. Did they Did they 8: No. That would that would be that would be a literal death sentence for them. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. That's not true. 2: So you could make that sacrifice, but they can't. 8: So 2 2 people did. A dentist, 1 dentist, and then my supervising physician actually I cannot believe that, like, during my hearing, his his responses, his answers to the questions and he had his attorney with him, very wisely so. But, his his he was the only person with a medical license that directly stood up for my decision making and and and treatments. So outside of that. No. But we could it's like you have to understand, like, it's your livelihood. It's everything. 4: You gotta understand. Understand. Yeah. 2: But livelihood versus actual lives. Livelihood. Livelihood 4: means nothing. They can I mean, I they're whatever they're doing in whatever they're whatever you can serve you can't serve 2 masters? You can serve men and you can like, I don't care what it comes down to doing the right thing, livelihood. 8: But if you don't have enough people okay. Okay. I shouldn't say 4: that. What? 8: Because I okay. No. It like, I I I challenge myself with this because I just I always thought, like, if enough people, like, if if I if I do this and and I didn't it wasn't even that. It I didn't even think that. It was just my phone kept ringing, and it was people in need of help. And it's just like and, like, you Gail, you and I have talked about it. It's like, can you help? And the answer is yes. So the only question is will you help? 4: The the 8: Like, do you have the ability to help? And if the answer is yes, you always always do. Like, you always do the right thing. 4: My dad my dad has always said to me since we were little kids, he has always said, you always do the right thing, and sometimes you do the right thing even if you have to do it alone. You do the right thing even if nobody's watching. You do the right thing no matter what the consequence is. You do the right thing. And this was right thing. 8: But you know 4: This was right for them. 8: So I had I had pastor I had I had family members. I had pastors. I had so many people telling me. They're like, Scott, your family comes first. You honor your family first. You I'm like, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. And I'm like, yep. Yep. And and when I say this, I'm talking at a point where where we, you know, where we had active debt threats against us and stuff like that. And that what are you doing to serve your family? And whenever I heard that, I was like, I'm serving God. Like, how do I how do I not like, if if how can I not serve God yet serve my family? Like, the the you can't you can't not do 1 without the other. God is saying, I because and I said this. It's like I'm like, okay, God. You can shut this off. You can shut the spigot off. Like, the phone calls don't have to come in. Like, you you have control over all of this. Like like, I it's not like there's some billboard where somebody's driving down the road, and it said, like like, an attorney where it's like, been in an accident, 55555555, you know, whatever. Like, call this. Like, there were no advertisements. Like, the way people reached out to me were so miracle. I I 5: get it. 4: Like, I get it. I get all of that. I think everybody needs to watch the movie A Man for All Seasons about Thomas Moore because there you you see this yeah. I mean, this was a real person, and you see everything that he lost, everything that he gave up just because he wouldn't he wouldn't be part of what the Nazis were doing. And at every turn at every turn, they what was the the at at well, at every turn, his family and his friends were like, why won't you just it's just a piece of paper. Just sign it. It's just you don't even have to mean it. Just sign it. It's just a piece of paper. Until even even when he was getting ready to be executed, it his family and his friends, please, I don't want you to die. Just please just just a piece of paper. And he said to his friends and his family, if you go to heaven because you followed your conscience and I go to hell because I did not follow mine, will you join me in hell? Will you join me in hell? I mean, he went to his people people go to their death to their death. I mean, some of these doctors that stood up were murdered. Some of these doctors that stood up had multiple attempts on their lives. I know some of them. 8: Yep. 4: You you. Right? So, like Yeah. So there 8: Yep. No. I had it was it was pretty bad. It was and and and you're right. I mean, I I I I completely agree with you. And that's No. Where That that's the that's the tear that I have on me because I look at it where if if you have truth. And in my book so they they just did a first round of editing on it, and it was like, I would say, if you have truth, and then, like, they would write the truth, and I'd cross it out. I'm like, no. Not the truth. If you have truth. Not the truth. Truth. 0: Truth. 19: Right. 8: Not like, there's no the truth. It's just truth. If you have truth, you live it. When when God asks you to do something and it's overt, like, overt, where where you know, like, and it like, for for anybody that's never had God directly speak to them, it might seem esoteric. But when God directly speaks to you and he says, this is what I am asking of you, You better listen, be silent in it, and hear what he has to say. And the next steps after that is you obey with with everything that you have. You obey, and you are in prayer every day, Lord. What where are you leading me? What is it that you're asking of me? Because this is not my will. Like like, I don't I didn't like, Shelley was always like, what's your plan b? I'm like, this wasn't my plan a. Yeah. Got a pediatric practice. Like, this wasn't my plan a. This wasn't even my plan b. This is what I was being asked to do. And she's like, well, what's your plan? I'm like, it's not my plan. It's God's. She's like, well, what are you gonna do if you lose your I mean, like, this was early on. What are you gonna do if you you lose your practice? I'm like, I don't know. I I don't know. Trust me. Because this is not what I'm being it's like, I I I am not acting on my own accord. 4: I've had these same discussions with my own, you know, with my own husband where I'm like you know, because believe it or not, I like to think I'm God's right hand man or woman and that he needs my help with everything. And so I meddle sometimes and and Huckleberry had to sit me down the other day and say when I put he he said, when I put something in god's hands, I he doesn't necessarily need you to, mic to project manage it. Right? Like, I mean, he just needs you to stay keep sometimes a year just, you know, I picture, like, a kid, like, when we were kids and we didn't hold the flashlight right for our dad, or we gave him you know, tried to help him fix the car and it just made it worse. That's kinda like what what happens. But let me just I wanna put a pin in this real quick, Scott, but I wanna come back to it if if we have time. But I I know Kat and Jeremiah have had their hands up, and I I I don't we've been K. Yeah. We'll come back to it, though, because it's a great conversation. 5: Hi. Can you hear me? Yes. Yes. Okay. I got so riled up with that last conversation because I felt so much like you, and I heard your story about what you went through with your husband. And, I went through similar with my grandmother. She passed away. She was like my mother though she raised me. And, I just have to say this whole matter is so simple. It's life or death. It's good or bad. If you have to keep secrets and you have to lie, you don't do it. And it's like you see these nurses doing TikTok dances, and they're killing people. And at first, yes, they get the pass, and at first, yes, people didn't know. I've spoken to 2 doctors personally about this that are awake. And the 1 doctor actually worked with doctor Corey. You know, I'm in New York, and he was in New York City for a while. He knows doctor Corey well, and he said they were really brainwashed. And then they felt guilty, and then the money took over. And most of them left when they kind of realized, and then they had all these other doctors that came in from out of country and stuff. But, I think the problem is it's not like we wanna punish people, but if we don't have this all come out into a light, it's gonna happen again. And the whole thing is if everybody would've just done the right thing and spoken out, it couldn't have happened. So I can't see justification of I would've lost my livelihood. So I'm gonna kill 3 people today, you know, because they're not vaccinated. And the 1 thing, if you watch the CHG bus, watch the nurses who blow the whistle, And the 1 thing I can find no forgiveness in my heart for yet are the ones who didn't get vaccinated, knew what was going on, but didn't say anything, didn't speak up, didn't try to stop it until they got fired because they wouldn't get vaccinated. But they still worked in the COVID units and talked about putting people on ventilators and not going in their rooms and not giving them water, and that's eye opening. And there's also a book called what the nurse learned off. 4: Saw. Yeah. 5: Yeah. And that was really shocking. And I I watched some interviews. 1 of the nurses started something for a while. She really repented. I'm getting goosebumps just thinking all about it. But I mean, like, it's life and death. I don't think they take anything seriously anymore. Like, I mean, when you're in a hospital day in day out, then 1 doctor told me, you get numb to it. When people die on you all the time, you get numb to it. But there has to be some kind of, like what I feel from the people in this room is, like, I guess it's religious. It's God. It's a sense of duty. It's a sense of country. It's a sense of honesty. We need more of that in the world because and we can't give people passes, I don't think, because this could all happen again. And, you know, I lost my mom, my grandma. I lost I just lost my brother last week. You know? I mean, he took the vaccine. I can't even talk to most of my family because it's, like, so bizarre to pretend everything's not happening that's happened. And and it's like, I I don't know. Is this ever gonna end? Like, I just don't know. I mean, I don't know. That's all I had to say. Thanks. 4: No. I agree. Yeah. I agree with you. I'm so sorry. 8: Well well, and this is the this is the the widespread problem with all of it, right, where what you just talked about where the vaccines, the I mean, the what you said, the widespread the widespread impact. It's it's I'll let Gail take over, but it's there's it it's not just 1 person buying and the impact. It's, like, multiple family members or people that have been, you know, that have gotten vaccines and have been injured or died. And there's no died. And there's no voice of truth about it. It's not even allowed to be discussed, and it leaves people in a in a in in almost an impossible situation because who do they talk to about it without being castigated or shut down? It's so crazy. I'm done. 4: Yeah. I mean, All good all good points. I mean, but it does like, it does come down to, like, Kat like, what Kat said. Right? Like, I mean, this isn't this is this is life this is life and death. This is a you know, there's a reason I always say this and some of your some of you get to hear me repeat myself sometimes every week, but there's a reason that they marched the villagers, the the townspeople through the the camps, right, in the death camps in in Nazi Germany when we freed when when we freed the the remaining the remaining, Holocaust survivors. There's a reason that they marched them through the camps because it happened right under their nose. And I've been to those camps, and I've been, you know, I've I've lived over there for for a time and understand the history and how it happened. I mean, it it happened through propaganda and slowly. You know? These camps were built to house political prisoners, and then people were a little queasy about it, but they didn't really you know, it's political prisoner or it's prisoners. It's, you know, traitors and that type of thing. But it, you know, it was really political opposition. And then, suddenly then there's the Catholics. Well, it's just the Catholics. It's just they they were they were housing political prisoners. Then it was the Jews, and then it was this that it was and and at some point, people in those towns started to question why children were in the camp, but they never said anything. And those or those that did say things got, you know, either killed or put in the camps or whatever. You know what I mean? So it it took it took over it was 1 compromise at a time. It was 1, I don't want to lose my job. I don't want to lose my house. I don't want to lose all my property. I don't want to lose my life. I don't so and that's that's the that's the thing. Right? So so the 8: Well, I think this is this is the thing that I I wrote down 1 time. Truth kept silent is worse than a lie. It's a sin. 4: Absolutely. It's a sin of omission. Right? So it is absolutely and it's dangerous. It's very dangerous. So these people these people that that didn't speak up, they don't realize how dangerous they are, how complicit they are, and how they are actually feeding their own demise. They can hide under the covers all they want. They shivering. They can hide under the bed, but, eventually, they're gonna come for them. So it's like it's it's it's first I'm gonna lose my oh, I'm gonna lose my friends. Oh, and people people didn't wanna lose their friends. Trust me. I can't speak out. I'll lose my friends. My family will not talk to me. My if I speak out, my neighbors will not talk to me. Oh, if I speak out, I could lose my job. I don't wanna lose my property. Oh, I don't wanna lose my pick a thing until until you're at the point where I don't wanna lose my life. That's where we're at. That's where we're at. And and people can be like, oh, that's conspiracy theory or whatever, but but that is. That's that's the progression. Just like when when they did the 2 weeks to slow the curve, well, that's gonna lead to other mandates. No. No. You're just it's just 2 weeks. It's just it's just just 2 weeks. It's just a mask. It's just a whatever. Just stop it. It's just a just stop it. Like, it's and and then and when the mask and when it was the mask, it was we we all said that's gonna lead to, mandates on the vax on the on a shot. Right? And, no, it's never gonna happen. That's never gonna happen. Don't be crazy. Don't be crazy. 8: No. I I I actually wrote a a Facebook post that the mask was the mark the the mask was was the initial mark. 5: Yeah. 8: Right? Like like, that I mean, like, how do we how do we separate truth from how do we separate fiction from truth? And and it's like I mean, it's it was the and I wrote about it fairly extensively throughout 2020 where people are like, why won't you? Even Shelley is like, why won't you do it? And I'm like, why why won't I live a lie? Because if because in my community, people knew me. And I'm like, if somebody saw me wearing a mask 4: They would. 8: And they did they they trust me. Like, they trust my medical opinion. Like, if I'm going to, like, be caring for my community and I arbitrarily or or I put on a mask because I don't wanna get heckled. I almost never did. And if I did, I used it as a platform to share truth. But I'm like like so if I bow the knee to 1 thing, then what's the next thing that I bow the knee down to? Like, because it's super easy. Right? Just put some like, it didn't even have to be a mask. It could be, like, it could be anything. You could tie a sock over your face, and they'd be like, yep. You're good. I put okay. I will say this. So just to pick up something for Shelly at at at Natural Grocers, they wouldn't let me in. And I had just gone to a birthday party, and I had a birthday hat, a cone, in my back pocket. And the woman is like, well, you need something over your face. And I was walking back to my car, and I went to look for my keys, and I pat in my pocket. And I fell, like, in my back pocket, and I was like, oh my gosh. I have, like, like, a bird that you, like, did you put over your head, like, a cone? And I was like, oh, okay. Just for fun. So I walked back up, and I threw the cone over my nose and mouth. And and she looked at me, and she's like, well, I guess that that fits the requirement. And I looked at her and I'm like, no. I started laughing. It was like, no. No. It doesn't. Not even sort of. And she let me in. And I walked through Natural Grocers, and I picked up some stuff for Shelly, and people looked at me. Some of them laughed. Some of them looked at me like like I'm an idiot. But I was like, I'm wearing a paper cone inappropriately, like like, just over sort of my nose and mouth. It didn't even cover my mouth. It just covered my nose. But they let me in, and I'm like and I just remember thinking, we're screwed. We're screwed. If this is if this is if this is how we're allowed to enter into society and if this is what people and the only reason I did it like, I could have gone to another store. I just love my wife, and she had some specific things that she wanted me to pick up. I was just not willing to actually put a mask on, but just but but everyone everyone did it. And I think, like, the importance of the conversation, it's because it's easy to look back and be like, that was stupid or no 1 should do it. But we haven't even remotely gone through hard times yet. And Shelley and I have talked about it. Like like, for us, like, living in tents for 20 months and all of this, it's like we still had heat. We had electricity. We we had the ability to, like, run fans in tents and run run heaters in tents. And, like, comparatively speaking, that was easy. We had blankets. We had we had some shelter. We're we're going to run into times where we're going to be challenged, and it's going to be challenged not just I mean, it it's going to be challenged on from a religious standpoint. Like, it's really gonna be challenged. Like, do you believe in God? Like, if somebody put a gun to your head and they're like, do you believe in God? And and the answer is yes. But but we've already run into that. Like, are you going to give into things because you don't wanna get heckled? And I'm like, by whom? Like, strangers? Like, some strangers in a store? Who gives a literal shit about what a stranger says about you? Or if they do, God put you in that position so that you could actually have a conversation with them. Like like I had a woman tap me on the shoulder, and she's like, god god can see you're not wearing a mask. There's a there's a black there's a black. I was at that I was at Safeway, and I was literally hold on. I was buying a bottle of vodka because I wanted to make a Greyhound because I wanted to have a nightcap, possibly sometime in the next day or 2 depending on when I was gonna be able to sleep. And she taps me on the shoulder, and she says, god can see you're not wearing a mask. And I turned to her, and I was like, I know. And in the meantime, I'm listening to a virology lecture. I have an earbud in. I'm listening to a virology lecture. And I said, I know. 4: Yeah. 8: I know. And I'm like, let me share something with you. And I played a little bit of the of the lecture. And as I'm chatting with her, her friend behind her had glasses on that were fogged. I mean, masks on, fogged up. And and at this point, there's, like, 8 people that, like, kind of convened around us. And we had this conversation, and and I said, listen. As an African American woman, you're at far higher risk for COVID. Your vitamin d level is like because we're in Washington, you know, you know, 30 Seventh Parallel compared to the 40 Fifth Parallel, etcetera, etcetera. So I was just sharing her information, and I watched the shift in her. It wasn't a challenge. It was just it was empathy. Like, she said that to me, and I wasn't it like, I was like, god put me in that situation to be able to have that conversation with her in a state of compassion and love and to share that information. She followed me up to a register so I could get a pen and write down the things that I told her, these are the things that I strongly encourage you to be doing to protect your system from from the, you know, from from COVID. And I handed to her, and she gave me a hug. And I wrote my phone number down, and I said, if you need anything, please call me. And she looked at me, and she's like, thank she just like it was so it was she just looked at me, and she's like, thank you. And I was like, no. Thank you. Thank you for calling me out and allowing this. I said, like, thank you for calling me out and allowing this interaction. I appreciate it. And she called me 2 months later. And it and and I have I mean, hundreds of those stories, but that that random woman called me 2 months later asking me for help. And I was able to provide help, and I just thought, like, had I been wearing a mask, that woman's family would have been would have gone through a really, like, if not died, gone through a really, really, really bad time. 4: Yeah. No. I get And that's 8: what he asks of us. It's to live in truth. 4: Yeah. I agree. I agree. I agree. You know? There's connections that that we make. And and, you know, that's, again, why I do hold people who had the ability to do something not harmless. Like, the people who bought the propaganda and were scared and acted in a certain way because they were afraid for a time, you know, that that's okay. But nurses and doctors, they're gonna have to make some kind of amends by being public. And I've been kind of a little bit of a bitch tonight, 5: so I feel like 8: So, Gail, here's the thing. You're asking you're you're you're asking, there there's a reason that there's so few. Right? I mean, like, there's so few of you. Like, the people on the on this call, like, there's it's like, it should be everyone. 4: Yeah. I say that all the time. Right? 5: I say that all the time. 8: It should be everyone. 4: Yeah. 8: But but that's where that's where the constancy like, that's where these calls aren't once a month or once a quarter. Yeah. That's why you have, like, multiple I mean, like, you have multiple, multiple, multiple, multiple calls a week in different groups. It's it's to solidify truth and to try and encourage people to speak up and stand out and and be unapologetic about what's going on. It's just, 4: I mean, yeah, that's it. Well, right, that's that's exactly it. And, you know, I mean, I I don't know I don't know what the hell it takes to wake people up, quite honest. I I mean 8: What you're doing. It's it's person by person. I mean, it's every new person that joins in on the calls. Right? It's it's persistence. It's unapologetic When I say I 4: don't know what it makes people what what it takes to make people I mean, what kind of event? What kind of event would like like, if we if we told people that we were gonna outlaw do you remember when New York City, the mayor was gonna, outlaw the Big Gulp sodas 8: of 4: a certain size? Right? Yeah. 8: It was the 44 ounce Big Gulp that they were gonna have. 4: People went ballistic. That was everywhere. People were so up in arms about it. And they my right to a Big Gulp, blah blah blah blah blah. Over a million people were murdered in hospitals. Oh, I don't know. That's kinda controversial. Like, you literally marched in the streets for big gulps. Could you just pretend these people were, like, pretend like, show the same passion for for a holocaust that you did for for taking away your big gulp. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Maybe we need to name our spaces. They're gonna they're coming for your big gulp. Like, I don't know. Maybe maybe we would flood. We would 8: Or your big gulp. 4: Yeah. Right? They're gonna take away your, I don't know, your peanut butter or whatever. Like, I just 2: Oh, well, I'm afraid I think we lost Gail again. Gail, please rejoin. 3: Yeah. I can't hear you either. 2: Kat, I still see your hand up. Did you have something else you wanted to add? 4: Kat. 2: Yeah. Okay. Jeremiah, go ahead. 21: Alright. Well, it's getting pretty late here. I'm gonna have to turn in at some point pretty soon. I actually have to teach a chess lesson in the morning, thankfully. But, you know, there's 3 things that I've been thinking about or another list of 3 before I had the 3 strikes and you're out of, hepatitis vaccines, extensive vaccine schedule, and COVID vaccines for kids. But I've also been thinking about 3 examples of how we don't know what the hell is going on. And example number 1 broadly is the world leaders were all reading from the same script all of a sudden on account of COVID. Who runs the damn world? You're gonna say, oh, World Economic Forum? I don't know. You know? It's interesting how that what they're saying corresponds with what's happening, but I distrust anything that we can see at this point. You know, how did this Klaus Schwab Darth Vader figure just show up all of a sudden when all this was happening? So Klaus Schwab is the 1 who did it. I don't know. There's something behind all of this. I don't wanna start wildly speculating, but I'm just saying, I don't think it's clear what the power structure on the planet is anymore. Because we used to just think, oh, yeah, nation versus nation. Well, somebody can just basically give everyone from Vladimir Putin to, Justin Trudeau a script to read off of and they follow it somehow. So that's number 1. Number 2 is we don't know why they needed to inject everybody. We don't exactly know that. We say, okay, depopulation agenda, there's a depopulation element to this. It clearly appears people are dying at an unusual rate, etcetera, etcetera. We could describe that in a lot of different ways, but it's not like the world population has been cut in half. It's not like a billion people have been suddenly wiped off the planet. Sure. Millions have died, and maybe even billions have had their lives shortened, but what the exact reasoning for needing to inject everybody, what was that about? Was it primarily depopulation? Was it to create a million diseases so that they have to come up with a million cures, and it's just a big profit making boom doggle for pharma? Is it, I'm sorry to go there, injectable operating system? That language is actually used in some of Moderna's original language. They were thrilled to say they had invented an operating system, internal operating system, and they said, you know what? Maybe let's roll back that language, and it was removed from their website when they realized, hey. You know what? People might not be that enthusiastic to hear that kind of description, right now. Then part 3 is we don't know who's running the show. We don't know what the real reason why they needed to inject everyone in the world with this was. Not exactly. We know it's not to say it's to to prevent COVID because we know the shots didn't work for that. But then part 3 is we are still awaiting sadly and we're witnessing a bad outcome every day for the most part, but we don't know the full health impact of this over a period of time. And 1 fear that I have, and I'm afraid it's playing out to some extent, is the life expectancy in The United States has gone down considerably all of a sudden. We dropped down from about 78 is the average death, which was kind of an achievement to, to 73 or something by now. I mean, it's like a good 5 years have dropped. And maybe we're gonna continue to see that go down. Maybe we're gonna go back down into the sixties, or I don't know how this is gonna play out. But I have a fear that the people who took these shots, by and large, have shortened their lives in doing so. I've asked a lot of my guests, is it possible to have received these shots and have not injured your health? A few of them have been very optimistic, and I appreciate optimism, and I really hope that they're correct. But seeing how much harm it has done to so many people, I'm having a hard time understanding how someone could have some of these elements in their body and have not harmed their health in the long term. And then the fear is people who, you know, are maybe 40 years old now or 50 years old or whatever, who say, oh, I feel fine. I took a shot and I took a booster. I took 2 boosters. I feel fine. Yeah. But the problem is, there's no indication maybe right at this second. But you were going to live until you're 90, and now you're gonna die when you're 80, or you're gonna die when you were 70. And we'll never know that. We'll just say, oh, you died when you were 70. That's not too young. But you were gonna live a lot longer if you hadn't received an mRNA injection when you were 20, 30, 40, whatever. 8: Yeah. It's not it's not gonna be that long. I mean, I mean, you're looking at a a 3 to I mean, 6 month to 3 year to 5 year if you're not doing things to actively mitigate the impact of what spike does to the endothelial lining of your blood vessels. Right? I mean, like, we know that. So you're right. Like, it could you know, speculatively, it could be, you know, 10 years, 15 years, 30 years. It's not. When when when Zev when doctor Zev said that 2000000000 people were gonna die, I was like, uh-uh. Like, okay. I mean, I I wasn't I was like, no way. There's no way. 2: And that's pretty in line with the deagle predictions too. 8: Yeah. But I was like, there's no way. Because I was this was in 2020. So I was thinking I I was looking at the model of, like, the ferrets and cats where it's going to be the, you know, antibody enhanced immune reaction. Like, that's what my concern was initially, and I'm talking, like, June, July of '20 '20. I had no idea what they were what what they were putting in. Like, I I just looked at what they were doing with RSV. You know, like like, how come there isn't any substantive RSV vaccine, etcetera. Like, from a pediatric like, I looked at everything in early 20 20 from a pediatric standpoint, and I'm like, this is effing crazy that they're trying to, you know, like, roll out these shots that are going to like, it's not it's not like you get the shot and you're in trouble. It's like you get the shot and then you get exposed to the wild type virus and you're going to have this increased expression of an immune response. Had no idea they're putting something in it. It was gonna cross the blood brain barrier, the blood breast barrier, the blood testes barrier, the blood uterine barrier, you know, like, all of these things. And then the clotting factors of it. Right? Like, holy hell. Like, I'd like, I didn't recognize I don't think anybody did initially, that was thinking about it from a from a concern standpoint. I thought it was going to be the over immune response where they were gonna almost like, what you would consider anaphylactic response. It's not. It's just like an IL 6, IL, you know, interleukin 6, interleukin 2 beta. It's enfalfa, like, that over response to it where your body just goes berserk, you know, and it goes into, you know, multi organ shutdown. But this isn't a 20 or 30 year thing. This is, like, what I am what I have seen personally. In in my experience of the thousands of people that I've talked to, people that have reached out to me, and we we use the word turbo cancer. And it's like, what does that mean? Well, it's like it's the downregulation of the p 53 gene. Right? Like, that simple thing. Right? The 1 thing. It's the overexpression of of of nuclear factor kappa beta. Right? Like, just that 1 thing, NFKB, where where you're now increasing the pro inflammatory cytokines, like IL 6, TNF alpha, and Erlgo and beta link. But but no 1 talks about it. You can't go to your doctor and have a converse. So my mom called me tonight and she's mine. We'd have Paget's disease. She's 84 years old, in extreme pain, and she, you know, and she told me a little bit about it. And I was like, so she got 2 shots, possibly a booster, and she she brought up that that her doctor said she may have Paget's disease. And she asked me, like, what she, you know, like, what she should do moving forward. 2: You're you're breaking up against Scott. 8: And she's but but, like, they don't know what to do because they're not going to equivocate any of it being relegated to it being part of, like, what what what the spike protein is doing in these different like, how it's activating our pro inflammatory cytokines. So it's like you they have no hope. There's no hope. So what's her likelihood? Like, if if she doesn't get the so my mom my mom is going to get involved. I gave her a list of things to share with her. But if she doesn't trust my mom or believe her, and if I can't like, if we can't get involved in managing her care, she's screwed. Yeah. So that's 1 story. That's 1 story out of, I don't know, 500,000, half a million. Right? 5000000 people that are suffering from all of these different things that you you're not going to pin on the injections, but they're directly related to it. And the and and anyway. So I'm gonna stop it. Like, we there's unless we can find a way to get this information out mass but it doesn't matter because 2: I mean, technically 8: Who's gonna who's gonna treat them? Who's gonna treat them? 2: What we're doing right now is having found 4: You know? I mean, my, you know, like, my dad, every time he he's in a nursing home, so he's like a pincushion to them. Right? Like, every time they give him a new booster, he has a stroke. And, like, you can't, you know, when they're, like, well, he's old. That's why he's having the strokes. I don't know. Maybe it's the shot you gave him a few days ago. Right? Like, I don't know. Think about it. Right? 8: Well, my father-in-law would be dead. You know, he's practiced medicine for 55 years. I'm standing in the backyard looking at a lake in at his guest at his lake house that we had to escape to come to. And had Shelly not flown out from Washington to Texas, they they put they were putting him on hospice. He had he had, paralysis. Like, ascending paralysis. He could barely speak. He ended up getting pneumonia while he was in the hospital. And because he was 82 years old 81. He was 81 years old. They're like, well, he's just this old man. He had just the week before, he had just done a 3 day shift at an ER, hike the mountain, but he had gotten a booster. And I talked to the doctor, and he's like, well, he got a booster. Like, can you run some labs like t regs, VEGF, you know, MMP 9? He's like, well, we don't run those. I'm like and I didn't say this, and I apologize for my language, but I'm gonna say this. And he said, well, we don't run those. And in my head, I'm like, well, then you're fucking retarded. 4: Yeah. 8: That means that you don't care whatsoever about trying to figure out what's happening to my father-in-law. So I flew Shelly out here, and she got here at 2PM. I got to his hospital room at 2PM on a Friday. And Monday afternoon, he walked out of the hospital. Now she put, like, 40 things in a smoothie and made him drink the smoothie and nebulized, and he walked out. But if it like, like, think about every 80 year old that's gone into the hospital that didn't have a Shelly. Yeah. It was that had the knowledge to to do stuff, that had the stuff to give. Like, we're talking about, like, a mass extermination of our elderly. 4: Yeah. I know. And they were easy target too. I mean, a lot because a lot of them were in the nursing home or in the yeah. Easy easy target. Like, taking candy from a baby, if you will. 8: Or life from a human. 4: Yes. Exactly. And I you know? 8: It's not funny. It's not funny, but it's it's it's You know, 4: it's funny. You know, Jeremiah mentioned, you know, like, the, the the operating system. Right? So Moderna, literally, on their website, had talked they they touted their shot as the the software of life. The software of life, and it's literally in the name, Mode RNA. That is their name. Moderna. Mode RNA. It's not like they've never hid. They've they've actually been quite proud of the technology. 2: And I was just gonna add if anyone can hear me. Can you hear me? Hear you. To each his own doesn't work with this. Like, because especially because they mandated it on everyone. Everyone wants to say, oh, well, just don't don't force it on me. But, you know, to each his own, you go ahead and get boosted to the moon if that's what you wanna do. And that is not a valid strategy because shedding is a reality. 4: Yeah. 2: And it's reality documented in the the pharma company's own own documents, exposure through ex inhalation or skin contact. So, you know, to each his own is is not good enough. People need to ban these products outright. 3: And that's where we're running into the biggest issue because and and we're in supposedly, you know, like, we have a super majority Republican, you know, house and senate. But yet when we've gone to them and said, look. You know? How how much how much did it take for them to ban Tylenol? You know? I mean, not much. You know? I mean, you know, it was like, what you know, 1 can of baby formula that's bad, they they ban the whole thing. Right? They just pull it off the market. But, you know, the you've got 1635000 plus adverse events from the bioweapon, and yet nothing is done. And when I go to the legislators and say, hey. Something needs to be done, and we need to pull this off the market. They did not know. MRNA was not a, you know, a a technology that was, you know, that they knew what was going to happen. It would we were just starting to utilize it in 2019. You know, they had no idea of of what was going to happen when little lipid nanoparticle got into the cell. They didn't know how to turn it off. They they didn't. They didn't know. And so but every single solitary legislator will come back to me and say, well, you can't tell people that if they wanna get the vaccine that they can't get it. You know, that restricts their freedom of choice. You know, if you're saying my body, my choice, you can't restrict them from having it. And I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? People are dying. They're having neurological effects that are they're disabled now. They can't go to work. They can't do anything. 4: But but we're gonna regulate raw milk and all other sorts of stuff. Right? That you know? 2: And and the symptoms Mick is talking about are 8: just the typical The other thing is 4: Yeah. 8: Well, the other thing is what Mick is doing, like, we need a million mix. Right? I mean, let's start with a hundred, then let's make a thousand, and then 10,000 of mix that are willing to go to legislators, that are willing to take up the mantle. And we we can't all do do it in the way that that she's done it, but it's like, it's it's our job. Like, we have truth. You just Not the truth. We have 4: truth. People just gotta stand up with them. Like To I mean, write a letter, you know, like, if like, it's so diff like, I've been doing this for 10 years, trying to get people to act, to do, to whatever. You know, I've been a precinct chair a republican precinct chair for a long time. And just getting people aware 8: is a 4: big challenge, but getting them to do anything, you know, you they even people who vote who vote regularly. Right? So they vote. They're very proud of the fact that they vote all the time. That is not the end. That is the beginning. You vote you vote for somebody, and then you better do you you better you have to hold them accountable. But, you know, they this they are moved by numbers. If they get a thousand phone calls on a topic like, if we targeted 8: But but but, Gail, the thing is you need some like, what you're doing and what Mick is talking about. Like, if we don't have somebody like Mick and and all y'all, like, that's where it starts. It's it's the ground swell. I've watched like, I've had the pleasure of talking to she's interviewed me, and I've I've watched what she's doing. It's like, we all have that ability to do it. And, you know, and I that's where I I'm in a little bit of a shame spiral where I I spent the last 4 years so aggressively doing it, and I had to shut it down just to protect my family. But, like, what what Mick is talking about, it's like we all have that ability to take these things to the legislature, to to push and push and push, be relentless, unapologetically relentless. And that's what, you know, with in Oklahoma, like, what like, we can do that. It's just, like, do we give enough do we give a shit enough to do it? Like, what what are we willing to to to sacrifice our gift? 4: We have 8: to. And that's what Mick 4: is doing. Anybody who's in Texas, we start going to the capital in January. Just reach out to me. I'll hook you up. You can meet up with us and be you know, we go in teams. We'll be going up we go up to Oklahoma too for mixed stuff because, obviously, like, we're actually closer to Oklahoma than Oklahoma City than we are Austin. So we do try to drive up for that stuff too. Plus, Oklahoma has a nicer capital. It's all decorated really beautiful. They've clearly spent spent a pretty taxpayer money on that. No. I'm just kidding. Oh, I think Jeremiah still has or has his hand up, and so let's go there. I can't see hands up and down. I have to guess. So if I'm wrong, just say, hey. You're wrong. 3: No. You're right. Okay. 15: Oh, yeah. I was just gonna say, you know, I was talking to, my friend, Jessica Rose. I interviewed her twice. And, you know, we're talking about the term medical freedom. And I I kinda like the term medical freedom. I think it's pretty straightforward. And she said, well, you know, I don't I just don't like labels. You know? I don't know. I don't really like that term. I mean, I guess it will do. But, yeah, I just I I have a hard time with labels, she said. I said, well, I hear that, but, you know, medical freedom works for me. But then as I thought about it, it's kind of inaccurate. It's kind of a misnomer a little bit. Like, I don't think you should have the freedom to walk into a medical facility and get poisoned. I don't think that should be, like, within your rights. I don't think that's, like, a normal right to go and get poisoned at a medical facility. And then, likewise, you know, I support very much another guest of mine, doctor Andrew Zivjets, who's been in the forefront in stopping this absurd, what they call gender affirming care, which he always emphasizes is the mutilation and castration of children. So, yeah, I don't really support medical freedom in that respect. I I would almost say it's a right to say no movement. We should always have the right to say no about any thing in particular, and certainly an invasive medical procedure. We should always have the right to say no. But I don't think, for example, I should be able to walk into the doctor and say, hey. You know what, doc? Could you cut off my right arm? I really sympathize with 1 arm, people, and I just wanna feel what it's like to live the rest of my life with 1 arm. Please cut off my arm. Like, I don't believe in medical freedom to that extent, the right to harm yourself and be poisoned and and harmed in various ways in medical facilities. 4: I agree with you on that. 8: Well, that's not that's not medical freedom. Right? Medical freedom is I know what you're saying. And I Andrew is Judas Priestly Judas. 15: Bear in mind. I call myself my radio shows with medical freedom, dedicated radio shows. 8: No. No. No. And and I love 15: questioning the language that we use. 4: Yeah. 8: Yeah. And and what I consider medical freedom is being able to go to the doctor, like or if you're in the hospital, like, in extreme situations, you're in the hospital. And and you can, a, deny therapies that you know that that you believe are harmful and advocate and, b, able to give, like, for the doctor. Like, a, it's it always starts with do no harm. Right? You have to do no harm. And I've I've spent thousands of hours studying all of these things. It's like all of the things that I have advocated for people, like, that I have treated people with and I've advocated in the hospital. The the and and I like, the the Washington Medical Commission said asked me to justify, like, cost benefit literally, cost benefit analysis of what I was advocating for for my patients. I was like, ivermectin, azithromycin, and and hydroxychloroquine. This was early on. I was like, okay. So this is before I even had an attorney. I was like, so so my cost to treat a patient if they didn't have insurance was $38. The cost for the hospital to treat them prior to ventilation. 4: A hundred and $50,000. 8: And all that woah. Nope. Nope. Nope. Prior to ventilation, excluding excluding the stay in the hospital, just the medications. Right? Like, even though they wouldn't give them IV saline or sometimes oxygen. Right? Like, just the basics, Tylenol. Right? Because they would put them on 650 milligrams of Tylenol q 4 hours, which bombed their liver and decreased their but but but so I in in responding to the medical commission, I was like, so so mine was $38. And when I looked at what you had just said, but when I looked at what they're doing, I said, without actual functional treatment, like, just just the basics, it was $3,800. And then when you looked at the hospital stay and everything else, it was a hundred and $50,000. So I was like, 38. So my response to them was like, I considered $38 for a patient without insurance versus a hundred and $50,000 in the hospital. I looked at the cost benefit analysis of what I was doing versus what you're doing, and I thought that was ethical. They did not like that. 2: Nope. They wouldn't like that. Okay. Well, thank you for that. I think it's been a really good space. I was so happy to have Mick Meow on from, intentional with Mick Meow. And if you haven't seen her podcast, you should really check it out. Mick, you are an awesome cohost and and a terrific space host. If anybody missed, the space Mick Meow hosted last night, it is pinned up in the nest. Highly recommended. I was there for most of it, and it was a really good conversation. So I'm really happy you could come on and cohost tonight with us, Meg. 3: Oh, thank you so much. It was an honor and and truly a pleasure. And yesterday, you know, I had Gail, and, we had Alan Martin. And, you know, there was some fabulous people, Rachel. I mean, just people were just getting so much information out there. You know, what what Gail was talking about getting out and getting involved and using your voice and using everything we've got to speak out and get accountability and responsibility so much so that they they can't ignore us because we have the power. We just need to use it, and, we're gonna be there next Friday, 7PM. We're gonna talk about medical tyranny, and I'm gonna be calling a whole bunch of legislators to say, come on. Come on. Here are the people. Don't be scared. 4: You bet. Next we're gonna do it again because we're because you wanna know why we're a glutton we're gluttons for punishment, aren't we? 3: We like it. We do like it 4: a lot. We love it. So and we're doing so y'all would need to, you know, pay attention to to the Friday. We're doing Friday's we're doing the, come together media, me and Mick and Mike. Yes. How do you pronounce Mike's last name, Duckus? 3: Duckus. Duckus. 4: I totally gutted his late don't tell him. Yeah. And then we we it's kind of a round table with podcasters to on different topics. Jeremiah, we'd love to have you on if as part of the the group. Anytime you are available, we, you know, we just we we you know, if if you're good this Friday, let me know. I'd love to we just take 3 topics from the week, and we break break it down, and have a discussion about it. 15: What time what time did you say that was? 4: We do it we start at, we record at 4PM eastern. No. 4PM central. So I don't know what time you're in. You're in Eastern. Is that 5PM eastern? Yeah. 5PM eastern. 4 PM, central. And we try to, you know, just kind of, I don't know, we just kinda have, like, we pick 3 topics and the, you know, the the news, the news cycle is such that we always have to sometimes we pick 4 because it news is a fast moving business right now. 1: Right? 13: Right? 8: And don't burn out on it. Like, don't like, what like, these these sites, what Gail and Mick are talking about, we can't burn out. Like, there's just fatigue, like, COVID. This isn't about COVID fatigue. This is this is about our livelihood. Like, this is about life and what you guys are doing. Like, these podcasts are critical for keeping people up to date with what's going on. 4: And this is get that info out. This is, like, the big like, we because we want to we want people to we wanna start doing stuff that's big picture too because COVID didn't happen in a vacuum. Right? So, like so, yeah, Jeremiah, I'm gonna I will actually send you a link, and, we can communicate and and square that up. What day are you gonna be in New York for your the your speaking for your speaking event? 15: It's September 29. 4: September '20 ninth. 15: So, yeah, if anyone is anywhere near New York, please say, oh, yeah. You know, we haven't been to New York in a while. Let's make a day trip and go over there. 3: Mike's in New York. 15: New York, by all means, be there. It's a garbage truck in the background. 4: Oh, it's a new 15: And, Yeah. And if you know anybody, you want to say, hey. There's a friend of mine from Twitter. They're doing an event. It's free. It's free. So no 1 is buying a ticket. It's not like, oh, you have to pay $35 for a ticket to, like, these insane event. This comes with the event. It's free, and it's gonna be an interesting event. I guarantee it. I'm hoping there could be a good turnout. I think, you know, all of these little things I mean, in this case, you know, it's me. It's it's little old me. Humbly asked for support. But I think every event, large and small, we should take it as an exercise in mobilization. Yeah. You know? How well do we mobilize all and on on on every front in terms of getting a good article in circulation, letting people know about events, letting people know about, you know, Twitter spaces, everything. Just spreading the word really actively. You know, if I go into a medical freedom space, I'll immediately repost. Like, I recognize the host. I recognize some of the people that have come into COVID related crimes against humanity. I've come in repost. Everyone should be of that habit. It it it actually kinda bothers me. I've talked about it before, but, you know, it's like, why don't we have 50 people in the space, and it's only been reposted for 12 times or whatever the case may be. Get in there and just be in the habit. It's like you came into the the karate dough, Joe. You didn't take your shoes off. 3: Right. 15: You know? Everybody needs to just do these things because that's how we do things. 8: That's a 4: good that's a good, point. So that's Sunday that's Sunday, September 29. It's at 01:30PM. Metropolitan Republican Club, in New York. I've, the flyer's in there. I have I've please go out and retweet retweet the the flyer. It's such your family. It's such a beautiful family. 15: Thank you so much. 4: Oh, those kids are adorable. Just look at those jeans. Those are 15: my little wiz kids. You know what's crazy? It's it's, my son was on the playground just yesterday. I mean, they're on the playground every day. But my son loves math, and he loves he's only 6 years old, but he knows about all these gigantic numbers. He just he watches these videos, and he was fascinated by gigantic numbers. And he met another kid. He's 6, and he met a 7 year old who was exactly like him. 8: Aw. And he said, you know, do 15: you know the numbers that are that that come after a trillion? And he said, yes. Quadrillion. He said, wow. Do you know that? What what comes next? He said, quintillion. He said, what? You know that too? 1: Oh. He said, 15: you know about sextillion and septillion? And he said, yeah. I know about Google and Googlinian too. 21: Or whatever. I think I 15: forget, like, some variation on more advanced than me by far. 0: But he 15: knows that the you know, there's Google, Googleplex, and Google something else. And they they're talking about all this stuff, and he said, you know what 1,000,000 times 1,000,000 is? Almost like he's joking because he knows the answer, but he scratched his head like he needs to think about it. He's like, 1,000,000,000,000. And my son was so amazed that he met another dude. He was exactly like him with this fascination from mom, but I can't remember his thing. 4: That is that is awesome. That is just that's still 8: Well, that's where we we geek out on truth. Yeah. We geek out on science. 2: Yep. And like Jeremiah was saying, it's really important that all of us support the few people that are actually dedicating their lives to raising awareness about these things. I encourage that. Watch it. Listen to it. I encourage everybody. I invite everybody cordially to, join our our, chat, our former feds group group chat. It's basically just like an open chat room, like IRC kind of, but it's all it's all, people who are dedicated to this, and they share lots of good information. We also have the media blast channel, where when you're trying to get get that message out to as many people as possible, Post it in there, and, and everybody's trying to to get all of that stuff out. So that's a resource everybody can avail themselves of, and I hope you do, and I hope I'll see you there. That's at ffctf.org forward slash chats, also pinned up in the next. 15: I was gonna say, I think it was today because I I first heard Scott in the space yesterday, I think it was. And, you know, he was expressing something about, I guess, remaining motivated, not quitting in the battle. And I've heard those kind of comments, and I and I you know, because of my kids, I'm completely tireless 8: Mhmm. 15: In this struggle. I mean, I have no I I the idea of fatigue around the issue, I just I I can't even think that thought until these matters have actually been solved for the health and safety of our kids. I mean, I tell my son I told him literally today, and I tell both of my children, my son and my daughter, my whole I want you to be more advanced than me in every aspect of life. Everything that I learn later, I want you to learn it sooner. Everything that I didn't know, I want you to know. And, of course, you know, they're gonna be their own people, and that's the beauty of life. I don't wanna be overly controlling, but I will tell them everything that I think is essential to know. And my whole goal is for my children to surpass me in every aspect of life. 4: Okay. I'm a I'm a grandmother, so trust me on this. I I wish I would have over controlled because, man, when your kids get married and they marry some schmuck and then no. I'm just kidding. You gotta let them be you gotta let them 5: be your own. 11: Oh, but I hear you. 15: You know what? I can't stand those r and b songs. They're like, I don't care what my mama say. It's like, you better listen to what your mama say. That's a dumb song. Right. 8: So I I have to undo it. Like, Sheldon says this guy 15: isn't right. 0: She's probably right. As I was 15: like, I'm sure she's right. She would 8: Well, we we we literally we we had a conversation where my kids are so like, they're so I don't wanna say angry. They've they've been so stripped from me because of it that we've had to try and figure out how to normalize not normalize, figure out how to 4: Incorporate 8: Yeah. Where my my daughter named my phones, like Deborah and Sarah. And she named because I had I actually had 3 phones, but she hated them so much because, like, I had a backpack with chargers and phones because I was on them all the time. And she like, my phone like, Gail, I don't think I sent this 1 to you, but it's like it was my son's tenth birthday, and we're we flew to Southern California. We got off the plane, and we walked off the plane with a line of police. Yeah. Like, there's a line of police waiting for us. 4: Oh my gosh. 8: And I promised Shelley that I wouldn't do anything. Like, it's a it's a re I mean, just a crazy story of, like, in Portland Airport. And, like, I don't ever go through the scanner thing because I don't want them to scan me. And, but, anyways and so I and I I said that I would wear it was the only time in my life that I've ever worn him something over my face, and it was on the plane for my son's birthday to fly to to San Diego and go to Legoland. And, I didn't make him wear a mask. I, like, just kept giving him snaps, and the stewardess was, just oh my gosh. Just I mean, like like Germany. Right? And so we ended up getting this yellow card, and I didn't know what that meant, which meant that we are booted off our return flight. And Shelly found out, and she went full mama bear. It was the coolest thing I've ever seen because she'd been fairly passive for most of it. But she found out that we were kicked off the flight, and and as we're deplaning, there's police in, like, riot, like like, shields, etcetera. And we walk up and we're like, what the hell? And Shelly was she was like, what did you do? What did you do? I was like, I just didn't make Cohen wears mask. I just had him, like, eat things the whole time, and the stewardess got pissed. And I showed him, you know, his exemption card. I wrote it, you know, all this stuff. And she literally lost her nut. I mean, she went off on the side right now. I'm videoing it. And, like, she's swearing like a navy seal, and I just thought at that moment, I'm watching her. I'm like, I couldn't love her more. Like, this is this is the coolest thing. Like like, when a mom Oh, yeah. Like, when you're when when because it's easy to be on the sidelines, right, when it's not you. Like, when she sees me doing all these things, like, why are you doing all of these things for all of these people? And it's like, all of a sudden, it was, like, her son. Like, my child, but her son. And she loses her ever loving mind. And she's just lighting them up. I mean, just all it was just brilliant to the point that I had to like, I finally I'm videoing. I'm videoing it, and I finally stepped in because we I didn't wanna go like, I didn't want us to go to jail. Yeah. And and we we decompressed after. And she's like, did you set that up? And I was like, I mean, no. I just I didn't want my son to have to wear a mask on the plane. So I just was like, I'm just gonna let him eat stuff. But but my like, part of my point is it's like, until it happens to you. Right? Like, for her, I buffered her from from all of it, where she would she would be like, why are you so like like, like, she she didn't fully understand, like, outside of, like, people that are sick and dying. It was like, why are you so hell bent on the social aspect of it or the impact on kids or the impact on families? And when she saw that happen to Cohen 10: Mhmm. Mhmm. 8: And I watched her protect my son. Like, per like, like, go into that. Like, how dare you? How dare you come after him? How dare you attack him? How dare you say those things to my child? And I'm like, oh. And that's, I mean, I look at that, like, as I watched her as I watched her doing that, my, like, my ethos, my thought on that is that's how that's the same mentality that we have to have on humanity. 4: Oh, yeah. 8: Okay. Because it's like so it's like a singular event. Right? But it's for me, like, every I mean, thousands and thousands of phone calls, it's like, I can I can choose I I could have chosen to be, like, like, pick them as, like, some non you know, like, you know, I looked at it? I looked at every single 1 of those situations as if this was my family member, what would I do? Like, what to what level would I do to protect them? To what degree would I do to protect them? How far would I go to protect them? You know, the 19: the set 8: When I watched her do that, it it it wasn't good. And I am it wasn't good, but it it reinforced in me. It's like, be be her in that moment for everyone else because at, like, at that specific time, like, it was it was it was really bad. And so she had just she like, today, she just wrote a chapter about what she was going through as my wife and the mother of my children with what we're going through, and she read it to me. And it's like, she's crying. I'm crying like, holy shit. Like, I forgot that I had a wife and family. Like, I forgot. Like, Like, like, I didn't know when I said, I didn't forget that I had a wife and family. But it was like, I was so like, I was so pulled in. And she wrote so she wrote something today, and I was and I I as she was reading it to me, I just started crying. I'm like it was like, a, I did that to them, and, b, she had the strength and faith and fortitude and love and resilience to trust in the faith that I had in God that what the mission that I felt called to do was was pick a word just or or or necessary. But that that story that she shared about it where where it's like and my my point is, like, there's, like I think about things that are easy and hard in the in between, and I still haven't run into something that's truly hard. I mean, I'm talking, like, biblically hard, like Job hard. Like, we've lost more. I mean, like, we've lost in in in ways that people can't understand, but other people have lost in ways I can't understand. We still haven't run into literally biblically hard. 4: I get you. 8: It's going to happen. We're gonna run into that. And if we don't if we don't live I mean, the only way we can get through it like, the only way Shelley and I have been able to get through any of it is is through absolute faith. Like, we've lived on manna. Like, I mean, literally. Like, I mean, I I I mean, I lost my medical practice, my license. I don't have a I haven't had a job since 2021. I started a new practice, and that was why we had to leave the state because the medical commission came after me for starting a wellness practice. Right? Like like that like, you know, felony charges and, you know, fines and all of the stuff were and it was like, what do you do? And it's like, you live on faith. And so many of us, like, when like, in these spaces where it feels like it's impossible, it's like, no. No. It's not. Right? And or we're just spinning our wheels. Like, we're just turning gears and nothing's happening. It's like, no. Like, all of this is so important because if it wasn't, I wouldn't I wouldn't be on here. Like, I love listening. Like, I am inspired by everybody that I hear on these spaces. It inspires me to be better. It inspires me to have to increase my faith, to increase the 4: Does it ever Well, you 2: are an inspiration to all of us, Scott, and I hope you never stop eating that drum because I think I think you are making a difference. 4: So it's 02:00 in the morning where I am, but we've got a Cirasoft. I I just totally gutted that. But, you know, a Oh, Cyrosoft? A Cyrosoft. Oh, 9: You could always just call me Joe. 4: So, we're gonna take you and then probably wrap up. 9: Cool. I was thinking about another doctor, who was focused on wellness kind of like, you were, Scott. And he managed to keep his job, but he also he was the kind of Nathan I forgot. I'll I'll have to get back to you on that, but it he was 1 of the first people I noticed when, my cousin died from the mRNA injection in '22. And I was thinking about this. If I have 2 dead family members and others have 2 dead family members, I guess I'm wondering how many of us have dead family members because of the shot. I don't know if you're awake, Nooni, but I'm making that ice cream we talked about, and I'll let you know how that goes. But, yeah, I mean, it's it's a situation we're gonna be dealing with for years. You know, watching people die no matter what advice we give them. So that's all. I I was just listening primarily, But I I heard this, well, it was Jeremiah who chimed in, about, his kids and everything, and I I it just made me it reminded me of what I say to any boy who I think might hurt my daughter. I I promise they will live because dead boys don't suffer. And I'll drop the mic there. 8: Well, there's only so much advice that we can give. Right? There's people that are are willing to be receptive to it, and there are people that you you hit a hit a dead end. And it's probably the most frustrating thing because, you know, when when you when you desperately care about the sanctity of life, and not just living, but not not just breathing, but living. Like, having a vibrant life. 9: They still have the choice. Living fully. They still have the choice to make, and at least they know what they can do to improve. And that and that's that that kinda believes me of any survivor's guilt. Even if I don't like somebody, I give them proper advice. 4: Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And I you know what? This is the way I look at it. If at least I gave them the opportunity to say no. I would rather know that I tried and that I said something than that I kept it a secret because nobody could come to me and say I didn't tell them the truth. And and if they did come to me and we have had people come to us and say, I should've listened to you. I I you know, don't judge me or you know? But I should've listened to you. And it's like, yeah. We understand. You know? And we help them and, you know, so but at least you give them the opportunity to say no. 2: Well said, Gail. Thank you. 8: And it doesn't make it easier. 4: No. But, you know, when you're 8: I know. You're right. It doesn't. But but it's, I mean, there's there's the inherent thing that underlies that where it's like the heart begs them to hear. Because we know. Right? Like, we know. And it's and and, like, I've run into this so many times where it's like, I've I've had this conversation with God. I'm like, why did you put them in my past if they were going to say no? It's so unfair. 4: When you so I'm I'm a grandmother. And so when you have grown children, you just get very you have a whole different perspective on people not doing what you told them to do in the first place and making a mess of things. 5: I rolled up, but that's that's grand 8: that's grand that's grandchildren. I'm saying when God puts people in your past asking, like, like, where you're like and where I'm like, God, why did you do that? Like, I, like, I was just hanging out. Like, I was trying to go out with my wife for our anniversary, and he put somebody in my past. And in that and in the process of that, and he spent, like, 8 hours, you know, like, into into, like, 4 in the morning. And they go, no. We're not gonna do it. And I would do it every time just in case. But it's like, why? Like, what what you know, that that's the thing. The where and it's, like and I'm not saying it's, like, that you shouldn't question God, but I question I question. It's like, why'd you do that? Like, what am I supposed to learn from from that when when Shelley's you know, where she's like, we're supposed to, like, actually hang out together. And I get a text where somebody's, you know, gonna be extubated. And, you know, but the thing is I always look at it in the context of always say yes. Like, always say yes because I don't know what the outcome is, and I'm not I don't know what I'm supposed to learn from it, but always say yes. 4: I mean, I'm I'm very careful to make sure that I that I and I know you are to some extent as well. But to there when it comes to advocating for people and and helping them through that situation, 1 thing that I've learned and I know you've learned and doctor Baines learned, everybody has learned, is you can help them, but you can't do it for them. At the end of the day, the the person who has medical power of attorney or the patient themselves has to be the 1 to do it. And people need to really understand that when they make somebody medical power of attorney, they better have made the right choice, and they better have communicated what their wishes are to them. I've had people call me, you know, like and many people call call us and say, can we make you 1 of our medical power of attorneys? It's like, yeah. You're gonna have to tell me every single thing that you and you're gonna have to keep me up to date on what you want. But at, you know, at the end of the day, you have to pick you have to pick the right people. If you know somebody is weak, if you know somebody is not going to, fight like hell for your best for what's best for you, you know, then you probably don't want them to be your medical power attorney. I mean, like, how come 8: That's that's true. But you've you've you've run into those situations, right, where it's where it's where it it's not optimal or they don't have power of attorney. But, I mean, I'm just saying where we still Sure. We're we were still able to get people. And and my point is it doesn't matter like, when you get that call, that call wasn't random. Right? Like, it wasn't a billboard, and it's and that's that's the very, very challenging thing where, you know, I looked at it. I mean, I my justification, when I looked at my wife, when I looked at Shelly, where I would show her a text or whatever, and I'm like, I have to do this. It didn't matter if there is power of attorney. It didn't matter what the situation was. It was just they shouldn't have even known to reach out to me. And so I I always looked at every it was like the angels that show up at Abraham's tent. You know, will you take me in? Right? Like, will will you give us will you give us food? Will you will you care for us? It's like and I don't know any other way to to figure out how to to I don't wanna say justify. It's just you know, when you're just hanging out, like, I'm just a regular dude. Right. Right? I'm hanging out and my phone rings or I get a text, and I read it and I'm like, like, where you're just like, pardon me. It was like, holy shit. This is literal life and death. Yeah. I don't care. Like, I don't care how you know, it's just when I'm asked, will you help? 4: Yeah. I get it. You don't care. It's not it's not like you care about like, you're still gonna help. But I will say this, I I push back a little bit when it's, like because sometimes people reach out to me and they're like, I saw you on this this, podcast, and my cousin's mother, my cousin's sister's mother or whatever. And I'm like, okay. I gotta I I need to talk to somebody who, number 1, it knows what's going on, and number 2, can advocate because I can give you all the advice in the world that I I want to. But if that if the family is not on board and the patient is not on board to to to help themselves or maybe the patient can't. But if the patient can and is not on board or the family is not on board, you can't, you can't make them advocate for themselves. You can't and and I have seen and you have seen this, Scott, and I have seen this. Doctors can literally talk a patient into ending just giving up and and dying, and we've seen it time and time again. They literally talk the patient into agreeing 5: to death. 8: Oh, it's it's like, Stockholm Syndrome where, like, we've done like, they literally like, yeah. You you're you're right. And so and I I I don't wanna belabor this. I I just look at it, and I didn't send you a chat. Like, there was a chapter I wanted to send to you to read, but it was my why Because I've been asked that, I don't know, hundreds of times I've been asked, what is your why? 4: Oh, you know what? I'll read anything that you want me to read. 8: What? But then I will I will send it to you. I'd send it to publishing, but I would love for you to to read it and give me your your take on it. But I was asked my why. 5: Mhmm. 8: And I didn't like, initially, I I wasn't sure. You know, it's like part of it was, like, I thought, like, intellectually. It was like because. Like 6: Right. Fuck. Right. 8: That's science for fuck's sake. Science, like, saving lives. Like, what is what do 4: you mean what is 8: your why? Like, just, duh. 1: What is your 8: Are you 4: kidding me? Why not? Right? 1: But but 8: but but that would be what is your why to treat people? And then it became what is your why to do it when hell is raining down on you? And it's like, because. You know? It's not because, but then it's like, what's your why when you're gonna possibly go to jail? And it's like, because. Like, I mean, it's not because. Like, there's always a why. You have to have a why behind every single thing that you do, and you're in recognizing the impact on family and, like, what and what because, like, we can do what's right, but is God asking you to do that? Right? Like like, God doesn't like like, you can be you with hubris and think, oh, I'm gonna do this, and it's going to possibly elevate status. And I'm just gonna say, nothing I've done over the last 4 years elevated any of my status in any terms. But but it's like, what what's your why? And mine was just it it was twofold. It was trying to make sure that I was in line with what God was asking me to do and ensuring that I held like like like okay. That that that fractures because there's my family, but there's the sanctity of life. 4: Yeah. The sanctity of life is 8: The sanctity of life. Like, what will you what will you do? What are you willing to give up? Because my family's life wasn't in danger. Okay. So it wasn't overtly like, they weren't sick. I mean, we had death threats, but it they weren't, like, crate it wasn't like like they were shooting holes through my office, but not through my house. Right? So it's like nobody was, like, directly, like, shooting our home. So I'm like, okay. We're good. But but it's like, what are you willing to do to protect the day of life? And I'd be like, alright, lord. Like like, what do you want me to do to protect the same day of life? 2: And 8: and for anybody that thinks that God doesn't directly speak to us, then this won't make sense. But I would ask that question literally. I mean, like, lord, I don't know what to do. I don't know what you want from me. And I would ask directly, like, like, help, help me. Like, or like, I would sit in silence. I'm like, Lord, like, what what do you need from me? Because he can fix all of it, right? Like, he doesn't need me. I'm nobody. 3: But he needs your but he needs you as your body. He needs your hands. He needs your feet. And and he needs your spirit because that's how he does his work. Right? His spirit works through you. So, you know, he he needs your body and and your willing, your willingness to serve him. And 8: But, yes, Mick. You're you're but but then but then there's all of these things that you have to, like, figure out where again, like, again, I I all y'all listening I mean, like, you've all been through like, you've all had your, like, your your overt personal situations and and, like, challenges. I had thousands. And and when I say this, it's not like, it's just that I had thousands of them. 4: Yeah. 8: And I'm like, at what point at what point am I at what point is it just is it just me thinking, you know, like, just you know, it's like The 1 thing I No. I didn't say it. 4: No. The 1 thing I learned that god doesn't need is he doesn't need my sass and he doesn't need my back talk. 5: That's that's 4: I I learned that the hard way, Scott. 8: But you know what? So I 3: No. We like it and we need it. 8: No. I I I, I wrote something, 3 days ago that when I wrote it, I so I I think I alluded to this. I I I cursed him. And it was it was at a point where I was begging begging for a reprieve. And instead instead of a reprieve, it was like a floodgate opened up. And this is after, like, floodgates. If you're if anybody ever reads the book, you'll be like, what the living like like, it's so impossible what god did. But I I was so angry. I was so angry because I just wanted to be a dad and a husband. Like, I wanted to I wanted to walk into our our home and and be present because I hadn't, like, I'd been unavailable for like, I desperately wish that I would have been physically deployed to another country because they got to see me. Like, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, they got to see me. I had a backpack. I had chargers. I had 3 phones, etcetera, and that's why I would just walk off into the woods at a special place in the woods that I did most of my calls where I was just in the car driving to people's homes. But, like, my kids would see me like, hey, dad. And I have an earbud in. And they'd be like, hey, dad. And and we're talking, like, 15 months of them going, hey, dad. And I'd be like I'd wave my hand, like, waft them away, like, a total day. I'm not I'm not here. I'm not physically present. I'm not available. Hey, dad. Hey, dad. And Shelly was like, you being here is toxic. And I'm like, and she's right. She was right about it because my presence made it feel like I was actually a physical person present to to engage with my family. I was being asked to do other things, and it was and that would go on for, like, from a Friday to Sunday. I mean, that would be I mean, I I I mean, I wouldn't go to bed from Friday to Sunday, but they would see me physically present but unavailable. And we had to have these talks. They were like, well, dad like, why you know, like, when Cohen said to me, she he said, dad, if I got COVID, would you hang out with me? Like, would you, like, if I was sick, would you spend time with me and take care of me the way you do other people? And I looked at him. I was like, well well, come on. Like, he's like, of course. And then in my head, like, you'll never get, like, like, I'd make it go I'd make it go away in 20 minutes. 4: Exactly. You know, this here's the sad thing, is the people who 0: fought 8: And I'm so sorry for yammering on. I apologize. 4: The people who fought the good fight, right, during this whole thing, there's probably, what, I think a thousand out of a million doctors that did the that saved lives and did the right thing and stuff. 8: Let less than a thousand. 4: Right. Less than a thousand. I I rounded up. But, I mean, some, I'm sure, did it on, you know, in secret or whatever or just handled their patients the way they handled them. But, but the the reality is they've they've been super traumatized by this whole experience to, like, from the perspective of, you know, like, trying to figure out how their colleagues lost their virtue. Right? And and and this whole thing has had such huge cost. It's had a cost to victims. It's had a cost to anybody watching, but we don't get out of this. We seriously get we don't get we we this is gonna happen again and again and again. It's gonna keep happening. It's gonna continue to happen until people do the do, until they do, until they stand up, until they have some until they they link arms. And and I 8: Okay. So hold on. That so that's not gonna happen with the the the current so the with the with the federation of medical medical boards and the state medical system. Do you like medical? So let me ask you let me ask you this. I'm talking about people. So so I'm gonna ask you this from from from a provider standpoint. I don't mean to cut you off. From a provider standpoint, how do I because earlier on where, you know, where it's like like, you just have a hard and fast line where I'm trying to figure out how to I don't know the right word. Forgive or relate or or recognize or understand the why. Mhmm. I don't know how to, and I'm trying to because it it feels like inherently, it's, like, always like, in my mindset, it's always do right. 4: Yeah. 8: That's it. Just always do right regardless of con not regardless of consequences. Really? Like, I did Yeah. Like, I did shit that that that that, like, I can't like, even in the like, I had written something and she was like, you cannot say any of that. And I was like, but it's so cool. It's so cool. It's so fucking 1: cool. I wrote some 8: but she's like, you you know, Scott You 19: can't say any of that. 2: I I wrote an album recently, and there's so much. I was like, can I really can I say that? And Adam's like, well, it's it's a song. You can you can say that in a song. 8: Speaking of being able to say things, we said we'd never go over another Can you send me 0: we'd never go over 7 hours, and we're now at 7 and a half hours. I think this really needs to wrap up right now. 8: I I I wanna I wanna hear that. 4: I'll I'll send it to you, Scott. 2: Yeah. It's pinned up in the list too. So check that out. 8: But you don't need to know what that means. 2: Like, up above everybody's head. 8: I would I would love to hear that, Scott. 4: I'll send it to you. 0: I'll make sure. You can look up you can actually look up the entire album on, YouTube. It is dangerous by a conspiracy mill. 4: That's what I'm gonna send them. 0: I'll send it 8: to you. I like that it's dangerous. That's so badass. 4: Alright. So 0: we gotta wrap up 4: We gotta wrap up and because it is 02:30 in the morning. 2: Yeah. And Where? You know, bad things happen when we let it run too long. So I I think you really made the point though, Scott, that, you know, the victims of COVID related crimes against humanity span all walks of life, and doctors are among them. Doctors some doctors have been victimized too. So, and I'm so sorry for all that you've been through, and I'm so grateful, for for your presence here and all that you bring to us. 3: Me too. 4: Yeah. Me too. So, so we'll see y'all next Saturday, same time. We'll see you on Mixed Space on Friday, and spread the recordings, spread the spaces, share the space, and we will see you then. Thank you all for joining and hanging out with us. 2: Yeah. I think if if we all can't, share this valuable content, then, you know, do we really believe what we're talking about and what you've heard for the last 7 hours? So, you know, that's that's, like, the least anyone can do. Share share this with 1 person. 10: Mhmm. 2: Get them to not watch TV for a month, and then share this with them and see what they say. And I'm so grateful for all of you staying on with us so long. Thank you so much to our cohost, Gail and Mick Meow. You've been just awesome. 4: Alright. Thank you 10: so much for taking 4: me. Bye. Good night. 3: Good night. 8: Good night.