Select Page

Transcript

Hello, and welcome back. X is always keeping it interesting for us. Please give us a few minutes to get resituated, and we'll get back into it. Deborah, I sent you a mic invite because I know you were up on mic waiting to speak when it crashed, I think. Gail, I'm sending you cohost. I'll give Miriam a couple minutes to rejoin. John, you have a mic invite. Getting everyone back up. Welcome back, Gail. Sorry about that. Can you hear me? I can hear you now. K. It is, yeah, we'll wait till people get get back when and then John can continue. I was just getting good too. You know what? He was talking about his Substack articles yesterday and today, and and I was really agreeing with, him talking about how, you know, none of the organizations are gonna give up their mission for the other, but how we all need to align on some on, like, 3 key points. I love that line of thinking. If we could get the organizations to do it, I certainly believe former feds would align on some key initiatives, which means I think it would be hard only because not everybody would get their pound of flesh or whatever, but it would move the needle. And, you I mean, what's, you know, what's closest to the what's the low hanging fruit that could get done. Right? The low hanging fruit? Yeah. Like the so, you know, what what could you get done and moved out of the way in as the first 3 things? What's closest Mhmm. And most so I always say, I you know, I'm a protocol victim, and so protocol, issues are top of mind. And I am pissed that people aren't recognizing the Holocaust that's in the hospitals. However, I also have been in the medical freedom movement for a while for longer than I've been a protocol victim, and I understand that the Maha movement was built on the backs of gaslit mothers. And when you're talking about the vaccines and the shot you know, the shots that have injured people, and that has taken you know, I I know people who've been who've been fighting that battle for 30 years to get where they are, and they didn't get there overnight. And so it is no wonder to me that that that issue of vaccine safety and the vaccine and the pharma big pharma companies having that immunity, right, having having been given the sure. You can push out a product and not be held responsible for what? Not only will you not be held responsible for the damage it does, but the government will take the taxpayer money and and pays pay some type of damage. Like, I I see that as being 1 key very key thing that probably is on the tip of toppling be tip of toppling because nothing grew that movement like COVID. At COVID, so many previously, pro vaccine people joined the anti vaxx, what I call the ex vaxxer, not anti vaxxer, the ex vaxxer movement. Like, I mean, it So many people joined. They were like it it opened the eyes of, gosh, a good 20% more. And so I see that as 1 thing that I think is probably a very prime issue. You know? And it it killed children, and it's been maiming and kill killing children for decades and decades and decades. And people just people don't care enough about it, but they care about it. They they don't care as much that I've been harmed by that a granny you know, I'm a granny, if y'all didn't know that. And, they don't care as much that a granny or even a 40 year old or a 30 year old or a 80 year old was killed or hurt by the protocols as much as they might that a child was harmed by a product that no like so I do think that that is I like where John was going with that, and I wish he'd rejoin us because No. In scale, they need they need the care because it's clear that that the agenda is not going away. I mean, it's firmly embedded in our government based on the the webinar that the CDC is putting on Tuesday, you know, like I said, and the other bills that are in place that went through congress last June. So, you know, it's easy for people to go, oh, well, that's an 80 year old, 7 year old, 6 year old. Well, you know, it's it's like you said, it's younger people. It's and they're not going they're not stopping this agenda so far. I mean, hopefully, new administration will see a difference, but definitely not. They're they're definitely continuing. I I think, I mean, I think every I think everybody has an issue that they believe is the most important for this administration to work on. Luckily, the people that he has he had he's done what smart business people do, and that surround themselves with smart people to run each aid. He that is a it's a a bit of a stellar team. And if they all get confirmed, I I don't like, nobody's playing around. Right? So I don't I understand the people who are upset with, JFK or ask JFK. What upset with him. Still lost. Yeah. He's on Telegram. He's a preacher. He he works with Elvis. So no. What RFK Junior. Like, I I always say JFK, and I mean RFK, but nobody like, I understand when people are like, hey. It's you know, nobody's, you know, nobody's being, you know, strapped to a bed and and and forced to eat Fruit Loops or, you know, whatever. And, so, you know, it's not causing acute liver damage or renal dam renal failure. So I get that I get that part when people are like, the Maha movement has been hijacked by people who wanna tell us what we can eat and what we can't eat. And I but I do see I don't think RFK will let us down once he's confirmed. I mean, he the way he talks about the the shots, and I know people people are gonna disagree with me on this, but, you know, we're all friends. The way he talks about the shots, in my opinion, is he says, people get mad when he says, I'm not against vaccinations. I want to see safe and effective vaccines. Right? Well, he knows those don't exist. So in a sense, he's saying, if this unicorn ever path passes my path, I will embrace it. But he knows that that unicorns don't exist. Do you know what I mean? So we have to we have to kinda, like, read between the lines a little bit too because we don't know everything that's going on, and we do need him. He is he is our best shot. He understands that I mean, if you watch if you haven't seen Vax 3 license to kill, if you haven't seen it, then go see it because you'll see that they understand the whole issue. He's talked about the protocols. He's talked about the shots. He and not just the COVID shots, but all the shots that have killed and maimed and disabled and you know? And and he's been caring about that for, you know, over a decade. Now I can't remember when when did Vaxx 1 came I I saw Vaxx 1 in, like I could be wrong, but I thought it was, like, 2016 or something like that. So I think it was, like, 2000 or late 2 mid 2 thousands when Vaxxed 1 came out. I'm a look now because it's gonna bug me. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody better. But when I it's funny. You know, Gail, you meant what you what John was getting to. I can't it's it's so on point with conversations I've been having. If Nooney gets a mic up in up here, she'll tell you. We we we just had this conversation ourselves. Kim, who was in here last week, and I had this conversation, she got up there during, America Mission Space today and, and and and and talked about some action items that are actually that we can actually do on day 1. But the issue is going to be we've gotta do we've gotta get enough attention. We've gotta use leverage to make sure those things get done, and, plus, she she has a practical way that we can take these things off the market on day 1. And, yes, it apparently, according to her, and I trust her research, it can be done. But like I say, if she requests a mic, I'm sure she'll wanna talk about it. Yeah. So I just wanna confirm I was right, Matt, 20 16. Just wanna say that. Nooni. Yeah. Nooni, you know, like, I I'm gonna, like, we're we're open to collaboration, and, I mean, obviously, obviously, we're gonna be having and have been discussing, you know, the top things that we want to do as an organization. But it would be good to like John was saying, if John ever comes back, John, please come back. Somebody call him. I'm gonna let me I'll say, Dennis is back. I I I would love to like, what he's saying, the the organizations need to need to align or should align on the top 3 things. Now that's not gonna happen because they're not I mean, you're not gonna see the bigger organizations going, yes. Let's work with these little guys. Right? They, like, they don't often give give the time of day to people who are, you know, boots on the ground, grassroots, trying to get stuff done. Right? And so, yeah. Hey, Noony. How are you? Oh, busy. Busy. Busy. Anyway, what the idea is is, like, having everything decentralized is the best policy. If you have 1 group, it could, you know, be taken down and boom, you're out of the game. But if the Democrats can, you know, do this, so can we. Alright. So it's, you know, respecting and just an alliance with each organization and leverage our presence here on x. 1 way to do that is some of the things that could be done immediately would be the, EUAs can be taken down so that they could stop, you know, the the shots and, like, things like remdesivir or valcret. And I bet you guys would have the list of the other toxic drugs that have to be taken out that have EUAs as well or even the protocol itself. But on day 1, they can revoke illegally granted EUAs because they're correcting an error by the previous administration. So there's no need to call a committee, because the committee erred. And, you know, it's up to the secretary to to overlook that because, you know, that's under his purview. So it can be done these things can be done following the rule of law and the procedures already outlined. You know? But those 2 things, what I'd like to see So let me let me ask you a question on those 2. Well, just so so, so the first is how how would that work since Trump's administration is the 1 that put the EUAs in for both of those things in the first place? And secondly, since the Biden administration rammed through, actual FDA approvals so that it was no longer e EUAs. How would that work? Well Would you still be able to do it? There's different mechanisms. I put together a thread on my timeline of, like, these things that I found on x so people can go look at them. But the thing about the EUAs is you had the agency, you know, deny the fact that hydroxychloroquine was available. Thus, the, Mhmm. UAs, the products did not meet the, standard for, you know, the UAs, the benchmark. Yep. So I agree with that. We have dead with the area. And plus, they actually put in a, like, a fraudulent paper that's been proven fraudulent. You know? So, like, from from that standpoint alone. So there was you know, if your agency's lying to you and telling you, yeah, everything's good, and there's there's no alternative available and adequate treatments out there, which chloroquine works hydroxychloroquine works. And we have that 2005 paper from Barrick. That's all through 1 thread that I put together. So they knew and you know, yeah, he signed off on it, but they lied to the sitting president and then attempted to assassinate him by put sticking a needle in his arm not once but twice, you know, knowing things were toxic. So, you know, in that respect, it can be just a written memo. And there's also in that thread, examples of the revocation of an EUA as well as a recall. So they did both drink. Yeah. So those are in there as well. So there's Can you pin that thread, Minnie? Pardon me? Can you please pin that thread? Yeah. After all. It will. And I will tell you that the vaccines have already met the, quote, vaccines, end quote, have already met the FDA's own criteria for a class 1 recall. Period. Yeah. Yeah. They have. Yeah. That that's true. We don't recall an EUA product. You revoke the EUA. Okay? So when you go and you look at the administrative path, like, what paperwork has to be done and signed off, it's revoking the EUA. That's it. So And but there's So even though that was approved, Comerity. So that 1 would have to be recalled. Yeah. That's what I was gonna say. So if it was way, they they you know, the August 23, BLA, biological licensing, was was a date and switch anyway. The the Comenity does not there is no other that's just a label to put on the EUA product. The the actual formulation was exactly the same. So that also was fraud. It was a bait and switch. Yeah. Right. I get that. I get that. But once it has products is after the EUA is granted, they can change ingredients at will. Yeah. So but what okay. So for the products that because I I think and if I'm not mistaken, it was more than just the commoners. All the COVID products are listed, all the EUA ones. I'll I'll get I think if it's not in the thread, I'll stick that, web page in the thread, and you can go through and find the ones which are killing people in the hospitals. Because I know, like, remdesivir had an EUA, and then it was approved. It was FDA approved. They ran through the approvals, and so we couldn't we couldn't say after recall that 1. So that would take a recall. Some of them Yeah. That would take a recall. Depending on whether they're an EUA or they're approved. If they're approved, you get a recall. If they're Right. Away, you re revoke the EUA. However Right. For the for the shots, and I'm not too sure if this category would work because remdesivir was a treatment for COVID. For for this, I I mean, just the whole I think the hydroxychloroquine argument will work again. Yeah. And we have to remember, Trump bought and secured a supply of hydroxychloroquine for America. So he was aware of this. You know? So there there's that aspect of it too. But this would be, basically, it would be great next Saturday if ban the shots, stop the shots, you know, ban remdesivir trended because, basically, we're sending him if we can make that because he pays attention to x. And you know how how fond he is of those impromptu polls he does at the, at the rallies. That if we can make a big enough noise, like send a flare going, look. We have expectations here, and you have to deal with this. We don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody has the security clearance to say what is what's on the agenda. Everybody's speculating, stirring the pot, and all that other shit. Nobody knows. I don't have that kind of clearance. Anyway so that's the Yeah. A flare going, look. This is what you have to deal with. And there is grassroots support. There were 2, states, 2 GOP Republican GOP organizations, 1 from, I think, it's Idaho and Arizona who passed ban, Yep. Ban the jab resolutions, and then there were 9 penalties in Florida. Yep. I thought there would have been more, but that's all I've been able to find. I mean, because I know we were we were working with groups for the Idaho 1 for sure on our We The People 50 recall the shots initiative. Mhmm. But what was the other the other state was the other state was, Wyoming, you said? Really? Okay. I'll I'll look for it. Arizona. No. Where was it? So I knew about Idaho. I didn't know about the other. Daytona, Idaho. Okay. County have no place. Oh. 0, wow. Yeah. Really? Chelsea, you don't even know what they're saying. They call them bioweapons as well. Wow. Interesting. Yeah. And that's what we're talking about. Grassroots support. We just have to make that support known by gathering all of the users like that. Mhmm. Mhmm. You know, there's the stop the shots group. There's your group. There's America Mission. There's Maha. And by just being allies and, you know, saying, okay. Here's an action item we're going to do. If you can please help us and assist that you would send it out to your your people and go on this date, you know, we're gonna we're gonna make this trend. So, you know, have memes or have your posts ready and whatnot so people can do that. And the thing about this, this would be a very good dry run for doing it for every item on this agenda because there are so many items hit to hit to, you know, basically, decorrupt these organizations and, stop some of the things that are hurting and killing people and actually not good. And, you know, there's legislation that has to be changed. And and that's where I you know, like, I was talking to somebody earlier, and I said, look. You know, for legislation and staff, the the 1 group that has the legal capacity is yours. You know, you know where all the the the the chinks are in, like you know, that's why I love listening to Brad when he's talking about what he's doing and what not like that because that's the legal expertise right there. Right? So Oh, EdTech has been initiatives. Everybody should come and, you know, support your initiatives. So where you know, that posting, reposting, quote, tweet, you know, memes, everything, because we have to do that. So we need, like, a little a little run. People something people say, like, you know, it's unrealistic and no. And, you know, I could write the letter just cut and pasting, like, with what I put in that that thread. I mean, it's doable, but it has to trend. It does have to grab his attention. It does have to trend. Yeah. Yeah. And Yeah. But, also, people do need to be they do need to understand. Like, this is my this is my concern always when we start talking about these things is we see a lot of people come into the fight and something doesn't happen in a month or a year, and they're they give up. They're like, well, nothing's ever gonna happen, so I'm not gonna spend my energy. And and I I understand that, you know, but, you know, people need to understand there's a war. 30 years. Anna's been at this for 30 years. I hang out with Emu, and Emu said this is our year, and it is our year. It it may be, but I don't want people getting all getting all, uppity at, like, 6 months or 2 months if it doesn't happen because You keep there's a lot of things. There's a lot of things to do, and the things, like, are are, you know, should be prioritized. Yeah. But if that doesn't mean that things can't be done simultaneously because certain groups have the expertise in 1 particular area or are on a, like, you know, like, with whatever lawyers are doing, whatever case. So that if we can you know, if there's, like, I don't know if there must be a lawyer back channel. So when these guys have, you know, an actionable item that, you know, maybe Aaron Siri goes, okay, people. Here's the actionable item I'm doing today, blah blah blah blah. And, you know, having that, supporting there. We don't know if the shadow banning and all the shenanigans on the medical community are going to be lifted on the twentieth. We have freedom of speech, not freedom of niche, of of reach that was explicitly posted by Yep. So we don't know. So we still like, we can still do these things, but by being decentralized and putting it out organically, I I think it's possible. But we have to practice doing it nevertheless. If if if we're unsuccessful this time, well, I have to bring my MAGA hat. And I don't wanna do that, but I will. Mhmm. You know, I waited 8 years for this hat. Now I finally got it, and it looks looks beautiful on me. Anyway and I'm wearing it right now. But the thing is it's setting up that flare, letting them know, look. We're we're you have to address this. You know? And we have been suppressed in the news. We everything, which is why it's not, you know, 1 of the items, like, on the like, whatever because a lot of people still don't know that we're in the middle of the biggest humanitarian crisis on the planet. That's right. And that over a million Americans have died already. That, you know, babies are are are being, you know it it's it's disgusting. But so we have to acknowledge that. That's part of the playing field. And you've already talked about earlier how people are coming. The newbies are coming. Yep. You know? And, you know, have to be able to say, hey. Well, you know, here, you need a doctor or whatever, but you gotta get a medical freedom doctor. We don't know. And, hopefully, the CMS will get in there and make changes to the protocols, and that's I forget who's that 1. I think that's doctor Oz. Oh my god. But we can't lose focus. We can't We can't lose focus on a very key thing that if it doesn't happen in the first in the first probably the first week, must happen in the in the first days or or week. No. And that is stopping that is stopping the WHO. Stopping that WHO treaty, that is most people are lollygagging around life, don't even know it exists, even though we've been screaming about it for years. Yeah. He's gotta pull out of the hoop and put that notice in. Yep. Because they have a lot of power right now because of and because not every state passed legislation to stop them from coming to their state. Yeah. So so that those initiatives have to be put out as well. So there's a lot of work to be done. And, you know, this is what we've been waiting for for 5 years. And now even though, like, people have fatigue, people are tired, you know, and it's been 1 long slog, this is where we have to roll up our sleeves and make sure that, you know, that these things are addressed. If Chelsea can hear me, since Nuni and Gail mentioned stopping the WHO, I put the photo of the CDC 1 Health webinar on there to show that I'm signed up for for Tuesday to let people know what CDC is up to. But in that same post, I put a substack that talks about the 1 Health agenda, the global, digital health certificate network, etcetera. Chelsea, you'll see the link in that post. If you could put that up in the nest, that would be helpful. Yeah. We all we all should join that. I will do the next. Yes, ma'am. I I will say, did you did you attend any of the sessions that they had when the when companies and organizations were having their 3 to 5 minutes to talk about what they support? And the things that they said were just absolutely chilling because they I I always go back to this 1 when the cons conservation society was giving their kudos and their we love this. And they said they were talking about how there's an overpopulation of animals on the planet, and they and they just casually threw in including humans. Yes. That's Nobody blinked an eye. Yeah. 1 Health Initiative talks about animals and humans on the same same par. Mhmm. Exactly. We're we're considered to be an animal. If you look listen to, Yuval Noah Harari at the WF, he says that, you know, we're just hackable animals. Meaning, he he wants to put surveillance underneath the skin and, you know, and, basically, that the, algorithms and AI will know us better than we know ourselves, and monitor everything. So that is part of the whole 1 Health, 1 World global digital health care, health certification network, and the grid that they want to get us all surveilled and suppressed by. I mean, I I will say I I was so outraged the number of times I heard them compare have you know, put animals and humans on on the same par. I mean, I I I thought I thought about my grandkids and, you know, they're they're so precious to me. And while they may be a little feral and act like little monkeys sometimes, they're certainly precious souls. Right? 100%. And that's the whole, you know, godless thing about the WF, the h WHO, the UN. They are godless, you know, organizations, godless people that are running them, And they they see themselves at the top of the pyramid, and we are simply utilities to be used, you know, and eliminated down to 500,000,000, period. Miriam, Kissinger called us useless eaters. Remember that. Yes. I remember. And they said that, you know, that 1 of the best things that could be done is to peacefully call the herd. Absolutely. And that's exactly what their intentions are, and that agenda is still very much alive. Yep. But this is this is I'm glad this is why I I'm I'm glad Newniece I haven't I haven't let y'all in on this before. I didn't tell y'all I was gonna do this, but this is this is why I this is why I wanted Newnie to come up here and say everything she did because we've frankly, I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier, Newnie, but this is somehow, the j 6 community was able to get the j 6 pardon project off the ground. Now we're actually talking about pardons for the j sixers on day 1. So if they can do it so we really and and, Nooney, I didn't think of this earlier, so I apologize. We really, we already have a proof of concept for this with the j 6. Now that took that took more work, and that and that took a lot of work on Suzanne Monk's part. But if it so we already have a proof of concept that we can we can reach people and reach movers and shakers and get this stuff done. Now we're having to do it in less time, but between all of us up here, we've got contacts. We've got people we can go to. We've got spaces we can go to, like American Mission, like Punch Bowl in the mornings. I know I know they've got contacts there that'll be willing to help out with this effort as well. So Yeah. The has not even begun. I mean, I I the I I mean, 1 thing the j sixers had, though, and I I am so behind that movement. I they better be pardoned on day 1. But, they they have the medical freedom movement has does have a lot of, missions within the mission, and it is, as John said, having those groups align on top 3 things. I love the idea of memes and video and video clip compilations, making them trend because people will read a meme. I bet you nobody will read this final report, garbage of COVID select, the 2 year investigation piece of trash that these people shouldn't even be paid to have done. Nobody will read those 500 pages, but they'd freaking they would they would share memes all day long. I mean and I love me some memes. Don't get me wrong. I love me some clever memes. If we've got good meme makers out there, I wanna hear from you because I would love I love a clever meme. And everyone has access to Grok now. Everyone who's in this chat should have access to Grok, and you can just give it a few words, and and it'll generate a custom meme for you. So that that's what. So They did this with the j 6 card and projects as well. Suzanne put out a bunch of info memes and, and was posting them out. I shared a few of them. So, yeah, we can do the same thing here. Yeah. We need to we need to, maybe we need to have a meme meeting. I really don't wanna have a lot of meetings, but maybe people could just yeah. I will I thought you loved meetings, Gail. I love me. I I do. I love because I love there's nothing I love more than spending my every waking moment with all y'all. You guys It's true though. You guys complete me. And I don't you know, the 3, 4 hours of sleep, I'm accustomed to it now. So it's you guys are like it's like I had a newborn baby. That's how much I sleep with y'all when I when I'm with y'all. Like no. I'm just kidding. I feel like, you know, except it's like having a newborn it's like having a newborn baby, but nobody's crapped their pants yet. Where's the I love your dedication, Gail. You're such an inspiration. Me and me and Chelsea, this is we spend so much time working together that she'll be sitting on her on the porch with her camera on, and it will go dark. And I can't see her face, and I could see her light a cigarette. And she looks like this mysterious woman on a porch, like Godfather or something or the godmother. How about can we meme Chelsea's face on the godfather? Because we're we're still working on the lighting situation here. We'll we'll get it squared away. And then she'll hit a she'll hit a a a page and her face will light up. And I'm like, it's so but that's how much time we spend together. Like, when when I send a message out at 02:30 in the morning to her and I get a response back, I'm like, what? Anyway and do we have doctor Bain yet? Because I feel like, you know, that move that show Bewitched from way back, calling doctor Bombay, calling it's calling doctor Bain. Rejoined us. He was back in the audience, and now he has dropped again. So I don't know if you if you can text him and, help him get back on, but I'm sure we'd all love to hear from him tonight. I know. I we love doctor Bain. Doctor Bain is I don't see him in the audience. Well, okay. So y'all, if you want to speak, next is Deborah. But if you want to speak, press the little microphone. And it's great if you do it, like, now at 08:30 instead of everybody pressing it at once at 1AM. Anywhere between now and midnight, press that button. Yeah. We don't we don't wanna run over 6 hours if if we can, but we we do wanna hear from everybody who wants to say something tonight. So don't be shy. Don't be shy. Press it. Let's let's have a conversation. This this is actually for the victims of, well, for eyewitnesses, the eyewitnesses to crimes against you COVID related crimes against humanity. We want we really do want this to be a place where people speak out. And I when you speak out, when if you're a eyewitness to crimes against humanity, COVID related crimes against humanity, and you speak out, we are get I you might have heard me say this on the spaces that crashed. We are I'm a say it here. We are hearing from people who find us on Twitter, who find us in the spaces, and they're telling their stories. So they didn't know we existed. People are telling people are sharing the spaces. There's they're telling people that they know who who had lost a loved 1 to the protocols or who are are shot injured. They are literally sending our spaces to people and their friends saying, you need to listen to this. You need to connect with this group. You need to you know? Because we very much are about giving that platform to for people to to tell their stories on multiple platforms here and in our betrayal our betrayalproject.org. You know, telling their interviewing, getting people on podcasts if they want, if they if they're willing to go that far. I think everybody should be doing that. We're we're very much about, you know, taking care of the wounded. We have our support groups, our PTSD group, our, you know, there's very and then, you know, we're gonna you know, getting legislation changes and and trying to bring about some accountability. We've got some some things that are happening in the accountability, area area of accountability that I can't talk about yet this just yet, but, we're we're we're getting some movement in that. Some of y'all are working on that. So, anyway, so let's let's go and see. Let's see what Deborah has Deborah we'll go to Deborah, and then we'll go to Destiny. How you doing, Deborah? Good to see you. Hey, guys. I'm not doing that well. I'm having kind of a hard night. It's What's going on? Well, it's the time. You know, this is the time of year. Like, right now, Jeff wasn't it would be in the hospital and the nightmare going on. And it's kinda like, no matter how long it goes, it's like you relive it all over again. Mhmm. And I'm just I'm mad, and I'm pissed. I'm sad. Yeah. So I don't I was gonna talk and say some other things, but you might wanna give me a minute now. Yeah. Deborah. You just take your time, and you chime in whenever you feel like it, Deborah. Yeah. I mean, I I and I think a lot of people in in the spaces, you know, feel what you're saying to it you know, Charlene was talking about earlier in the spaces that crashed. You know, just her and her mom are both, you know, writing every day as they live through the, you know, the memory of what happened at this time of year. At some point in the night, we read the names of the people who passed, who were killed today in in the last yeah. On today's date anniversary And the week looking forward, protocol widow does that, reads that those names in memory of them. And, the the list of names is long, and it's getting longer. And if we had every name, it would take us all night just to read the names. So people I think people really understand where where you're coming from and what you're dealing with. I I hope I hope that you're not feel I hope you're not like, I hear people oftentimes take on responsibility for what happened, and I hope that's not 1 of the things that is happening with you because, I mean, you know, you'd you knew it. They they they needed you know what they were supposed to do, and they failed him. What's hard for me, Gail, on this that part, what you're talking about is I've been a nurse for a long, long time. Mhmm. I've taken care of so many people. And I was a hospice nurse for the last 15 years, so I sat on a lot a lot of death beds. Mhmm. And 1 thing I can honestly say that I've been thinking about last few days, you know, I I knew as a sister, you know, all the other things, I I I could understand it with my patients and their families, but I never I I I went back and thought about all of my patients and but the spouses, the wives, and the husbands. And Mhmm. I never really knew that part until now. And it it makes me feel bad because I thought I was being very empathetic, and I didn't have a clue what they felt. I'm so sorry, Deborah. So I'm mad because of a good profession that was I feel betrayed against. Yes. Yeah. There's so many things, so many wounds that that we all have from this because, you know, if you're in the medical field, yeah, it's a betrayal, Deborah. Yeah. That because I was in that field as well. But then at the same time, you know, you have the anniversaries. You have the birthdays that you can't celebrate with them anymore. You have. You know, every day when you get up, you have a routine that you used to have with them. So it's not you know? You're right, Deborah, until you're on in that position. You don't get it. And it's not because you don't want to. And now on the other side of it, you don't want anybody to ever have to know that ever again. And that's where the passion comes from is we are determined to stop this because nobody should ever, ever, ever have to experience this because these deaths were not necessary. They weren't unavoidable. And that Right. That adds to the burden even more. Right. Right. Exactly. And I I think what also adds to the burden is just people going about their lives like there's not a holocaust that happened and happening. Right? Like That's very wounding as well. But, you know, I have to say this. The fact that you keep getting cut and keep getting wounded, it sure does make you stay in the fight. Because if you don't, there's gonna be more of the walking wounded and more Yeah. Dead and more suffering and a never ending round of it because they're not going to stop. Yeah. That's very true. Like, it it's like our priest said 1 time, you can you can cower off the battlefield. You can run off the battlefield, but the battle's still going. You may as well stay and fight even if you gotta take the fight to the gates of hell. Amen. And we have to because they're gonna keep doing what they're doing. Yeah. And, you know, yeah, when we get wounded, maybe we need a brief rest. That's when somebody else picks it up, but you don't ever leave the battlefield. You let somebody pick it up and fight for a little bit while you catch your breath, but you keep going. Yeah. Yeah. We kinda need to be each other's shield bearer. Right? Like, I mean, you know, because it it's and it it it's really hard. I hear, you know, especially widows. I hear them, you know, talk about it's it's especially hard to to fight sometimes because your partner in the fight of life is not there. I mean, I I I couldn't imagine, you know, I couldn't imagine Huckleberry being left to fight this. No. I mean, I couldn't imagine fighting this, like, without his support and his Yeah. You know? And That's why this group is so important because You know what's hard? You know what's hard, you guys, is having to freaking start your life all over and had not have a clue what to really do. Yeah. I mean, I moved clear across the country because I knew I had to find some peace, but I knew that this was not somewhere we would go together and move to either. But it's just like it is so freaking hard to freaking start over, and especially this late in the game. You know? Oh, Deborah, I'm I could I'm here for you if you ever wanna talk, you know, just 1 on 1. You guys you guys are my tribe. I mean, you just are my tribe. Yeah. We we love you. I think people don't really understand. I think people don't understand the human aspect of this, the sheer the actual impact. It's very easy to talk about what happened and the science of it all and the evil of it all and the methodical way that they did things. It's a lot harder for people to look at the, the human suffering. You know? Like, we we were talking about, the other day about getting people engaged in the fight and, you know, the fundraising because the fight cost the fight cost money, guys. Like like, it's just you know? And I I'm always shocked at the things that people open their wallets for and their hearts for to get involved in. Right? And so if if we were a bunch of shivering puppies shivering out in the cold. And what's terrible if you were actual actually puppies? People would have a lot more there would be a lot more attention on this. Yeah. They would they would be tripping over themselves. I mean, we actually said member I mean, I hope you don't mind me saying this. We're like, maybe we should show them puppies on vents and then show them the truth. Right? Like, It's not a puppy. Like, people get so upset about certain things, but but the fact that there's this human carnage and the and people being experimented on. That's why my that's why my husband always sends them the Fauci beagles when they when they ask him what they did to his wife and says, does this upset you? Yeah. That's what they did to my wife only. She's a person. I see we got, John back too. But, Deborah, I'm so glad you joined us, and I'm so glad that I'm glad you joined us, especially because you were having a hard time. I just love you, Deborah. Because we can, you know, give you, like, a virtual hug here. And Deborah is always with us. She never fails to make a meeting or a space. Right. And so grateful for her always being with us, and I'm so glad we can be here for you, Deborah. Yeah. And this is what I'm talking about when I say these these women, many of these women, they fight and they sometimes they're fighting, but they're they're in they're fighting through their tears, but they're still in the fight. So they deserve a lot of respect. I'm gonna go to Destiny, and then I'm gonna go to John. Hey, everyone. I just I heard, Miriam speaking earlier about the 1 Health initiative, and I'm so glad to hear you speaking about it, because it's it's such an important issue that I don't think a lot of people fully grasp. And when I first started looking into 1 Health, I stumbled upon it fairly early on in in my research. It was it was still 2020. And, I was like, okay. Because there was obvious connection, between 1 Health and EcoHealth Alliance. Mhmm. And, the first direct knowledge of that I found, it was through the vice president for EcoHealth from from the time that they did the gain of function work until our current day. She's the vice president. Her name is John Ametz. And she is I don't know what she's actually good at, but, she seems to be just like a networker a glorified networker that has a degree from a veterinary from UC Davis where they have the 1 Health Primary Institute is there. Now the 1 Health initiative when you hear 1 Health, I just hope in the future people think 1 world order. Yeah. 1 Health is 1 world order. It's it's 1 system. It's gonna have 1 treatment plan. It's gonna have 1 person at the top depend deciding on everything you do. It's gonna be 1 treatment path and and 1 answer for absolutely everything. And it incorporates not just your physical health, and that's why understanding 1 Health is important. This has been sewn into the sustainable development goals. This has been sewn into the WEF ideology. It's been sewn into the CDC. It's been sewn into the FDA. It's in over I think it's in over 80 countries currently. There's well over a thousand different either universities or research facilities that promote this. It started, by the way, for those who don't know, it started in 1999 or February, with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and George Soros, called the 1 Campaign, is what it was originally called. And they've hired celebrities to back them into concerts to promote this in the very early years, like Bono and Lady Gaga. So it's on this whole crusade because it's not just your personal health. It involves this idea that we're all 1 with the world and our environment. And it's if we have to take care of global health, then we have to address it from a quote, unquote 1 health perspective, which means the animals in your environment, because of zoonotic spillover, right, they wanna control your environment. They wanna pea this is gonna help them convince people to move into the bigger cities and into the 15 minute cities because you're farther away from those dangerous things called nature and animals. And so it's it's all encompassing. It's it's gonna include the the carbon tax credit. And they were writing this into the IHR, that they're trying to pass in in the new pandemic treaty. The even if it doesn't say the words, the once you learn 1 health 1 enough, you'll hear the same rhetoric and the same talking points. They don't even have to say it, but they usually do. And so I put some threads in the in the last space that we had, and then it crashed. So I put them again in the purple pill. You mentioned talking points. Can you also address the mis, dis, malinformation that is also included as part of that initiative? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So so missed this most people know what misinformation is. Misinformation is is information that is not quite correct. Disinformation is information that is kind of correct and maybe even fully correct, to an extent, but it's released in a very malicious way where it's like, yeah. But why would you even say that? That's not even the point even though it is bad. Like, you know, for instance, saying, for people, a good example of this would be, like, for somebody who starts spouting, Trump and Epstein are friends. Like, yeah. We know that, but what is that helping right now? That would be, like, disinformation. You wouldn't necessarily like it. But but the worst of them all is malinformation. Malinformation is a is is like a psychological head spin. Malinformation is verifiably true information that they don't like. So, you know, chemtrails and fluoride in the water or chemtrails are bad for you, that's true, but that's considered malinformation to the establishment because they don't like that. Vaccines are not safe. It's considered malinformation because it is provably true. However, they don't like that. So they just get a label at 1 of the 3. And that those were the tenants. Those definitions that I just said were based off of the Department of Homeland Security, their thing when they've tried to do the Ministry of Truth a couple years ago with Nina Jankowicz. Oh, yeah. I remember that. And then DHS has a long history with EcoHealth Alliance that people don't really know about. It's not just NIH who is funding EcoHealth. USAID is 1 of the number 1 purveyors of this 1 Health initiative, and them, along with DHS, did a lot of funding for EcoHealth Alliance who it's their founders and the people who work there that have been the longest promoters outside of Bill Gates, and George Soros that have been behind this 1 health thing, like John Ahmetz, Billy Koresh, Peter Daszak. The all 3 of them, you can if you just type in any of their names in 1 Health, they speak everywhere. Every university on this and they push these papers. And it's not just those entities. So DHS, USAID, UNESCO, the UN, WEF, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Johns Hopkins, University of Colorado, UC Davis, pretty much all the UCs, UC San Francisco as well. And so all this is essentially just different particles of those sustainable development goals. Yeah. And and so they utilize that misinformation as a a means to stop any dissenters from the 1 Health Initiative. And they they put out an entire thing, and most people heard about it. What was it what was it called? Like, the 12 disinformationists or whatever. The dirty dozen. That's what I the dirty dozen Disinformation dozen. Mhmm. That that entire lockdown on those people who we all know as our friends and people who stuck up for, you know, freedom during COVID, they pinpointed them with a whole slew of white papers that were essentially surrounding a terminology called, inosculation theory or prebunking. I've done threads on this before, and I'll put them in the purple pill, where they they utilize this DHS rhetoric of mal, mis, and disinformation, and they infused that with the papers on how important the 1 Health initiative is and how important it is that they solidify the IHR to incorporate 1 Health. And so what they do is they come up with inoculation theory, which is to me, very insulting because already within, you know, just the idea behind inoculation, it's just injury to insult. But the idea is to address the people or the types of people that are going to be saying the malinformation, the true things that are going to be said. They've come up with for COVID is where they came up with this inoculation theory to to put out information to pre go against that before you even put it out or put out information to make you look crazy before you start speaking against it so that you are already discredited. So it's a big massive, like, network and system that's, you I just really urge people to look into it. So I put some relevant threads. There's more than that on my page. If you just type in 1 health, you'll you'll find dozens. Good information. You know what would be fun? And I'm not gonna put pressure on you guys, but would be really great between now and the fourteenth and then right after the fourteenth is if you and Miriam and Mick Rosado, Mick Meowed, did a podcast just on 1 health or not a podcast, a well, a podcast would be great too. Maybe we have you on, may that would be great. Maybe, Destiny, maybe we have you on actually, would love to have you on come together media on Friday with us because I know we'll be talking about this. Hey, Dana. Right. But we I'm in. Maybe Miriam and Miriam and Destiny come on. I I will, I'm in. Are you guys on Media is only an hour. I think this this subject could we could easily spend 3 to 5 hours Yeah. To cover. But we we tend to, you know, look for, people who know a lot about the topic we're gonna be talking about and having guests on Come Together Media, and it might be really good. But I do think that you guys should do some spaces on on this this week because the 3 of you, like, you and Miriam and Mick, Mick Mick's group well, our group, Mick, led it led an effort in Oklahoma with our Oklahoma victims to pass legislation to block anything that the WHO puts in. So, like, to protect basically Oklahoma from this initiative. Right? And so, and that like, they they had to do what you know, like, they had to pivot from the initiative that they were working on, and they had to pivot very quickly to to save the legislation that was about to die that would have and I can't imagine why any state, especially in a red state, why any state legislators would not pass a bill protecting their state from the who. Well, I think But they that, you know, you have to recognize that that that's the only place that we're gonna get it done because you can clearly see that the CDC and the current administration, you know, are pushing it from the federal government. Yeah. Yeah. I understand. We have to do it at the state level, and I would love to sit down and discuss this with Destiny and Mick. I what whatever you guys wanna work out, I'm I'm in. Yeah. And I I I would love to see you 3 because you're you're so knowledgeable about it, and, I I think it would be an amazing I don't know, I think it would the people it's it bothers me that people are not talking about the people should be so up in arms about this and talking about it all the time, and they should have been for for for, you know, last, at least the last couple years. And if not the last couple years, at least this year. I mean, it really was starting to get out there in February and March and, you know, it was almost too hard to ignore. I mean, you literally by the time we got to to June, you literally would have to have been sticking your fingers in your ears and going la la la la la just so you didn't hear about about this. And I don't think people understand how badly this would go for them left unchecked. Okay. How different their life will be. And I don't think they understand that, you know, just because, you know, it was done it still was done. It was done by by Ascent. You know? So it's it's still on the board. You know? Just because they didn't I know. Receive their initial vote quorum, it means nothing. It's still on the ball it's on the board. It's And you see and you see comp you see companies on LinkedIn that are kind of normalizing and socializing this language that and this this thing. Like, I it kills me every time, and every time there's a disaster or something happens or there's a breach of data or there's, anything, like, when the when the CrowdStrike thing happened, people were like, wouldn't it this is this is why we need a 1, you know, the 1 health and the 1 bank and the 1, you know, the the the 1 every time you hear 1, like Destiny said, 1 world order. Please think that. And you just made me think of something saying every time something happens like, for instance, the climate agenda is part of the 1 health agenda as well. They they climate is a health issue. I Yep. You know, I'm saying that that's their words. Right? So and and when they have these these issues, like in California, that they actually engineer, by not having water, by not clearing I mean, they literally engineer this, and then they're like, oh, see. Another reason. We've got to get this under control. We need 1 Health. We need the climate portion of the sustainable development goals that are part of 1 Health. It's a it's relentless, and it's all 1 agenda. Yep. It will be so useful to have a a podcast or a series of spaces, with us at length and going into detail about all of the the little pieces and parts. We do have lots of people who are waiting Yeah. Give Destiny a chance to respond to all that. And then I wanna get to John, and then we'll get to every single 1 of you. Please be patient. Yeah. I'll be I'll be quick. Yeah. I would definitely do a talk on or work on anything about the 1 health. I I have so much work, and I was so loud about it for all of 2023. I think I probably did 10 10 different threads at least on it. So, it's hard to get people interested in it, but the the trick is to really show people how per like, pervasive this problem is. Like, I did not think it would be nearly as many countries and and facilities. And the contracts that they've they've made to kind of force the hand, like, what they've done especially in Africa, like Uganda, Sierra Leone, and other like Kenya. They've they've done a lot of programs where, essentially, they've they've woven into grant money through USAID. So it's like, we'll we'll give you this money if you start putting in this 1 Health stuff. And these are third world countries that are desperate for money for supplies for medic for basic medical needs, like syringes and and and gauze and just regular stuff, and and they're being their arm is being twisted to accept this stuff. But, last thing I was gonna say what was I gonna say? I was gonna say 1 more thing, and it totally evades me now. So I'll I'll come back with it if I remember that there was something yeah. I'll totally work with you guys on that. Yeah. When anything I can help yeah. Destiny, I just wanna let you know, I'm putting 1 of my substacks in about the financial assistance, and I put that in air quotes. Financial assistance they give to the third world countries to help push this agenda. It is pervasive indeed. I totally agree with you. Oh, I remember I like Oh, go ahead. Oh, I was just about to go to John, so go ahead. I felt it too. I'm so sorry, John. That's okay. It's quick. I promise. I promise. And there's, like, there's there used to be a pharmaceutical company. I can't find, like, any information on, like, what they do now. They're called Crozet Pharmaceutical. Crow c r o z I e t, I think, or or or maybe c r o z e t. And there's a list. It's archived, but there's a list of all the doctors, as their backers of the 1 Health Initiative. And if you look go back to the original 1 Health website, you'll see that the whole thing's from this Crozet Pharma, right, which is, like, who are these people? But they managed to get signatures of all these massive donors that are, and, like, supporters of it. And all the sing like, every single doctor that we don't like, like, they're all on the Peter Hotez is on there. Like, every single 1. And getting that list out would also help people in identifying because not all these people are outspoken like Peter Hotez, but they're so willing to stab the American person in the back for this agenda that people need to know all these names that are on the list, moving forward. And the whole the thing you said about the crowd strike thing is like, that blew my whistle because that's that's what they're trying to do. They they want to centralize all of it into 1 system. And if anything we learned from the last year in our health system, it's that we've had consistent cyberattacks that have the largest medical cyberattack in United States history was in just February. Mhmm. And And hundred and, what, a 50,000,000 Americans, personal identification and all their medical histories, you know, that imagine if it's 1 system, then it's then it's 8,000,000,000 records that are just gonna be what? Just for up for ransom, which is what happened this time. They had to pay a ransom in order to get those that information back. We don't even know who they copied it to, sent any of it to, or what they did in the in the interim period. And it cost billions, if not you know, the next 1 will be probably trillions of dollars for that information. We can't afford that as a nation. We can't afford that as a world. And I just honestly don't trust these people. So I just wanna say And then they have the then they have the audacity to still wanna to outsource, IT to these you know, to the, to the foreign countries, and that exposes even our military, medical records and everything. It's crazy. Yeah. Go ahead, John. It's your it's your turn. Thank you. I was in the middle of talking when the space went down, so I apologize for so long coming back. I should have just shortened it. The most important thing I wanna say is, we have I don't know how many groups. Right? There's there's CHBMP, React 19, FLCCC, AFLDS. What am I missing? A lot of them. BSRF. I don't know if I said that. I'm missing 1 of my favorite. Oh, CHD and so forth. Those are just health freedom. Mhmm. That's health freedom. Now if we includes, like, include moms for liberty and the NRA and everybody else And vaccines for joy. Yeah. It's, like, like, the state Not just the yeah. Not just the health people, but the the freedom people, the gun nuts, everybody. Oh, yeah. We we we should pull together millions of people, through an alliance for the first hundred days. I just call it the 100 day alliance. So in the next few weeks, I'm gonna be, trying to get in touch with leaders of these groups to get them to agree on 3 to 4 objectives. And if everybody just talks about those 3 to 4 objectives for the first hundred days, And you get every listener and every podcast you do, and you just hammer on that. And, of course, you know, I'm partial to stop the shots, fund the vaxx victims, and then, maybe, you know, concealed carry in every stake or something or what whatever else comes in. You'll never if you throw in the gun stuff, you'll never get a lot of the freedom groups or the medical freedom groups. Yeah. Okay. I I don't know. I just I mean, we we do something similar just on a state level. Right? Not former feds, but, a group a grassroots organization that the that I'm with that we take people down to Austin on. So we try to there there's we have these initiatives. Right? And and the the I don't wanna say the anti they're they're all patriots, and they may fully believe in, like I do, that I'm a, you know, I'm a constitutional purist. I I'm a second amendment or first amendment purist, and they may all believe that. But the hardest thing we to fill a bus of people or to get peep these groups behind initiatives, the hardest ones are if we mix issues like second amendment, and That makes sense. Medical. Yeah. I just I just threw that in as a nonhealth 1. Right. I don't Now pick pick another 1. So it's and I didn't say that. So if you're if you're looking at if you're looking at at a federal level, if you're looking from a federal level, getting federal organization, like or national organizations to align, Stopping the who and pulling out of the who has to be a huge 1 because without that, they can throw a wrench into anything else we need to do. I was saying after said about that recently. Do we need to do like, I don't we don't need to say anything on the border. He's committed to that. Right? So we need to say I think you really gotta push it because if he doesn't, it it has to be done early early I mean, it has to be done early. We have to be talking about it so people are aware. So that that is huge if he hasn't already said it. I just assumed that was 1 that we don't have to go after because he's already there. Yeah. I mean, like, he you know, it's it's so hard to tell with him in terms of I mean, there's I agree. Were a lot of poison pills, like, that got that slipped through. Right? Like, the Prep Act and the, the Prep Act was there, and nobody got rid of it. Or I called the Perp Act, and there's, you know, the the I so, like okay. So, John, I'm and I'm just thinking here because I love your idea. Well, I already have couple of leaders from very large national organizations. You you don't know people I've talked to. So What I'm definitely gonna do it. I'm I'm not gonna say who it is here because I don't have permission to say their names. So what do you what what do you think about like, you you're talking about the shots. Right? Like, that is 1 of those issues that has been being fought for 25, 30 years or more and has really grown because of COVID. That movement has grown so much because so many people are now ex vaxxers. But what do you think do you think pushing legislators? I don't want them to pass more legislation that is interfering with our lives, but wouldn't taking getting them to take away the immunity for these companies? And, I mean, that is that's what these companies hide behind. And some of their products, they would never push to market if they didn't have those immunities. Absolutely. No. The PREP Act is highly unconstitutional on its face. Do we wanna push the executive branch to try to get rid of it? Because that's real they're just gonna say that's a statutory thing. It's really a judiciary thing because no nobody's brought the right case. I mean, I don't wanna deviate onto this topic, but that should have been challenged by all the health freedom nuts, from the very beginning. None of them brought a case the right way. Not 1 of them. Only Childers in Florida brought the right sort of case, and that was only recently. And it's gonna take years. So what about, isn't there, like what's the, is it the 2786 act or whatever that that gave The childhood vaccine injury Yes. Yes. That's whatever. Yeah. What about that? Like, repealing that? Again, Congress is slow. Congress is is bought. We need to fix it to in order to fix the judiciary, we need, and you've never heard this from anybody but me, but I don't know how I'm gonna get this done. You need to get the state and federal legislatures to, override the federal rules of civil procedure with regard to standing. It's not everything. Everything comes down to standing. Everything. I know. So elections, what doesn't matter what it is. Vaccines. It's true. And those rules were made up by the Supreme Court. Just made up. Yeah. And what enables them to make it up is the Rules Enabling Act, but they've gone too far. And so with the stroke of a pen, the the, the the legislature can just make a statutory, rules of fill federal procedure, which would override anything that the the judiciary had created. So we need to give access to the courts back to the people. That's the essence of that. Oh, just saying that When you're done, I have a question relative to what you're discussing there that I think might be interesting. But I'm just 1 guy with an idea. Right? I know. That was tied into your ally. That was music to my ears talking about the courts. I just was wondering if you if there are some legal, associations and or legal, advocacy not advocacy. That's not the right word. Legal organizations or legal adjacent organizations that could become allies in helping that happen as far as your ally, strategy? Everybody. Take every everybody's welcome. It's just that you you just have to agree on the 3 objectives and push those during the hundred days. Right. I was just wondering if that and I know you can't speak about it, but, you know, I think that would be a very interesting ally to bring along because when you put that alongside, you know, the health freedom and you put that alongside, you know, the legal advocacy groups, it might be an interesting combination. Right? No. When you say legal advocacy, you mean, like, civil rights groups? Oh, I'm not using the right term. I can't come up with the right term, but but a organization at a national level that has the clout to push the issue. Oh, you mean, like, America First Legal? There you go. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. Digital watch. Then yeah. Just Yeah. You know, I was wondering if we could bring someone alongside, along with Yeah. That'd be fantastic. Along with, you know Right. That'd be great. No. That that I'm I'm glad you said that because I I totally forgot about those guys. I just think they would be integral to especially when we're talking about, you know, the the supernational problem of the international health regulations and, you know, the health freedom movement and then So let me comment on that because I I wanna I really wanna do the hundred day alliance. I just wanted to mention it. I don't wanna get into it too much. Read my substack from yesterday. It's very short. Not the 1 today, but yesterday. That'll explain, you know, the the need for it. There's a whole man understanding management, leadership, and the differences and everything else. So for what Destiny was talking about with 1 Health, if if you do a systems analysis on just about anything, you'll find that centralization is it it seems economical. And if you're going to tune a system for, efficiency of, say, money, then centralization might might be good. But, the losses at the margins usually manifest in really bad shit like loss of life. Like, you're gonna kill a lot of people. Yeah. And any any kind of centralization, you're going to lose a lot of the signal. Now if the signal happens to be the life of humans, you're gonna lose a lot of them. 1 hell's gonna kill, you know, hundreds of millions, if not billions of people around the world eventually if they ever get their their system going. That's And if it's it's likely intended that way, but the people who are pushing it, all those the ground troops of 1 health, they don't realize that that they're them and their they and their families are gonna be dead, because they won't get the resources they need. They won't get the medical care they need. They'll get the misdiagnosis because everybody has to work from a set of diagnoses and nothing new can happen. If it's not on the computer, you don't have it, and we're not gonna look for a way to treat you differently than anybody else. The whole thing's everything is fucked up. So, anyway, centralization always fails, and and any electrical engineer will tell you that based on, you know, a CPU versus multiprocessor and distributed processing systems. And what else? I just wanted to hit 1 more thing. John, I think that's a great point because there's no redundancy in a in a central centralized system. Thank you. Central point of failure. So you have a single point of failure in a centralized system. Yeah. No redundancy. Yeah. Exactly. It it's just it's horrible. But but lastly, for all the stuff we do, I know I'm talking about the 100 day alliance, and I know I'm talking about the federal government, but it's really more important, okay, locally. I love what's going on in Oklahoma. I have another state I wanna do stuff in. I'm not I'm very far away, like, 3,000 miles away, but, it needs to be done. And and there's those Is it Texas? Loopholes. Texas isn't 3,000 miles away from anywhere in The US except for maybe Hawaii or Alaska. Very central Texas. Right in the middle of the country in the South. But, anyway, I'm on the East Coast, so it's some it's something on the West Coast. Not the coast. Anyway, point is we got a you know, Laura Demeray, if you don't know who she is, she's the 1 who got the Idaho district, the band of mRNA jabs. I mean, who else in the country got anybody to do that? And how did she do it? You know, she believes in the doctrine of lesser magistrates. You you go to the lowest magistrate who has power and get them to do something, to to ban something where there's no law that can tell them they they can't do that. And so now you can go against the Fed because the Fed needs certain defined powers in order to be able to do stuff. And the emergency powers are fleeting. They lasted too long. Even at the state level, they used the acts of 1950 was used in Massachusetts. That's the civil defense laws that were put in in The United States at the state level, all over The United States. And what they did was they copied the European Civil Defense Acts because the Europeans needed them. They just went through a second World War. They had 1, then they had another. And then if they didn't have those laws, then, you know, with invading forces and being able to take somebody's property and put a cannon on it and shoot at the enemy, you've just stolen somebody's property. Well, you have a right to do that in exigent circumstances. Right? So they created those laws here. That's what they used for all the COVID bullshit. We had pandemic laws on the books from even before the revolution. Yeah. We had it before the revolution, but we didn't use those laws. Instead of using pandemic law, we used the law that was put in place for nuclear war. And and so, anyway, if you go to the localist place you can, fuck everybody else and get it done. And you need to find places locally, learn the law, and get your your board of county commissioners, your county supervisors. You get them on your side and basically tell them, hey. Just do this. What's gonna happen? If they come to arrest you, you will have already made the decision. It's out of your hands. You acted in the scope of your, your your sworn duty. And and now the police and everybody are acting in accordance with the law. And, sure, the fed might try to run you over, but now that's what that's where we need to be. We need to be in a fed versus local or fed versus state standoff. Why Texas has been putting up with this COVID bullshit for 4 freaking years, 5 years is beyond DeSantis, I don't know. I forget it, man. I mean, that whole grand jury was just a fake. The whole thing was a fake. It's because it's it's because Texas Texas has been trying to get rid of our Democrat governor forever, but he has an r after his name, so everybody thinks he's a Republican. Yeah. Not only is he not a Republican, he's a waffy. No. We we well, yeah. Don't forget I'm in Massachusetts, so don't complain too much. Yeah. But you're Oh, that's true. Is is very, very, very blue. I understand. Yeah. It's it people just don't understand it. Said everything I wanna say, the hundred day alliance, do stuff locally, and, support the hundred day alliance, and, you know, stop the shots. And, oh, I still have a book. It's still at the real cdc.com. And, I broke even. I broke even, like, it was sometime in the last 3 weeks. Wow. I'm happy. It's like, start it out $40 in the whole. Right? Start up $40 in the whole, and then you'd make it back slowly over, it's been, like, 9 months. So, but Wow. Let's keep promoting that book. And Well, sales have pretty much stopped, but I hit my mark, a few weeks back. And now I can try to write a second book, because I know that I can I can break even? And it'll be a lot less money next time because I know what I'm doing this time, and I won't be taken advantage of, by people who claim to the publishers. So Yep. Yep. Gotcha. Anyway, thank you. Alright. Thank you, John. We appreciate you so much. Great ideas. Alright. We're gonna go to, I'm gonna call out the order here just so people know where they're at, and they can plan their going to the bathroom or whatever they need to do because we've got a lot of hands up. It's gonna be resilient, wisdom, white hat, hippie, missing snowman, Matt, resilient is now. Resilient is Barbara Ann on Facebook. Good day. I know Barbara Ann. I know that I know that motorcycle picture when I see it. Just a few things. Few suggestions. But first, I just wanna tell Deborah, I I'm feeling your pain, girl. I really am. The holidays are hard. The time that they were in the hospital, You know? My husband went in. He was sick on Thanksgiving Day up in the bedroom, but he did you know, we didn't know it was COVID at that time. But he went in the hospital right after that, and then, you know, it was 2 and a half months until February 13. And, so I'm to the point now where I don't even wanna look at a calendar during this time. So believe me, I feel your pain, girl. But I don't feel your pain completely about working for the medical system and then feeling betrayed by it. I I just can't even imagine. I mean, I advocate for pain patients, because I admin groups for them and which opened my eyes to the corrupt medical system. And to know that I advocate for people all over the world and, get them the help they need, and couldn't advocate enough for my husband. You know? I even told 1 of the doctors. I said, you know, they said, oh, you're such a great advocate. Said, you know, if I get sick, I want you to advocate for me. And I'm like, you know, that was like a punch in the face. You know? It's like, why? I said, you're not letting me win anything. Why do you call me such a great advocate? You know? I mean, I did I did get a few wins while he was in. But, anyway, yeah, I'm just reaching out to you and giving you a big hug. A few suggestions, and I don't know if any of you have noticed this. But on Facebook lately, I've noticed tons of new profiles coming up and putting, discussions post, and it's getting people to talk about things. Epoch Times is doing a lot of them. You know? Yep. Gail, I thought you said in a Monday night meeting recently that you had an article in Epoch Times. Do you Lot of us did. Yep. They did they did they did a a a series. They're about to do some more articles about it, but they did a series of of of articles and the protocols at the end. It was in 2022. They did, our state not only did they do our story, but, we actually they did a series on the protocols called courage to be was it courage to be or cured? It was cured and courage to be saved. They did, they did our story on Epoch Times TV. And so, and and they so they did my story. They did Teresa's story. They did if I'm done if I'm not mistaken, they did Andy's. Maybe that was the the defender that did those, but they did a they did Ashley's story. They did they did a bunch of stories. I think he did, like, 8 or 9 stories. And I found former feds in the c 19 group through 1 of the stories. I don't remember whose it was. I think it was the patient that got moved to another state. Yes. I don't remember who that was. Peggy. Was it Peggy Springer's story? Or I can't remember. I just remember it was a story where the the husband got moved from 1 state to another. I thought it was Yeah. Was that any Was it Anne maybe it was Anne. Oh. So No. I guess my point is, I don't know where all these new profiles are coming up in my feed with all these posts that are, you know, about current events and things going on, but it's getting people talking. I think it's you know? Call me crazy, but I think it's being purposely done. Epoch Times Is that Since you Are you talking about Facebook doing that or x? Yes. Facebook? Are you The reason I ask is they're saying Meta recently released information about the fact that they're going to have AI driven to to hear the narrative. Okay. Breaking up. I don't know if it's just me for me, but you're really breaking up your hand. Okay. Is this better? You you kinda get roboticky once in a while. I was just asking. Resideo if if it you know, if, oh, and the audience, if they had heard that Facebook is, actually going to have AI driven accounts that are going to influence the narrative. Well, that that would be doesn't surprise me. If we could get our hospital protocols and, of course, the vaccine injured stories out there more, or maybe we could reach out to epoch times if you have a contact there, Gail. And I do. And I do. But here here's the thing, though. Like, so, I I'll tell you what I was told because I have reached out to him. The editors, they did a whole bunch of stories. Now they I'm gonna reach out to him again because they might be willing to to do some a few more things based on the fact that the new administration is coming in and RFK and all that. They might be willing to. I'm gonna reach out to them. I I have that on my to do list to reach out to them again because it's been a few months since I reached out. But, at the time I reached out before, they they were like, unless there's some new angle, unless there's some new development, the stories that they put out there already were about as deep as they go. And it because they did a lot I think I wanna say they probably did 15 stories he got in before they What about, what just happened in Ohio a few weeks ago? We we the the h bill 73 got gutted. Forget that. It it's out the window. But she Stephanie did get them to pass a bill for no patient left alone in the hospital 24 7. It it it they didn't gut it. It worked. They took something out about a liability or something, but she said it it was it was surfaced. It it wasn't, you know, to the heart of the bill. Yeah. I mean, I I I think that's news in in Ohio. And I the let me play devil's advocate. I think that's news in Ohio. I don't think I don't think the epic times would do anything with it because here's the problem. Here's here's the biggest problem we're facing is a lot of people are like, well, COVID's over with. Well, they were they haven't been you know, they don't ice they haven't they haven't kicked people out of hospitals for, you know, 6 months or a year or whatever. So they think so it's like, okay. A bill was passed. I I'm I'm still like, people don't see that it's it's still a real and present danger. Right, because they are not seeing that they even even the pay no patient left behind bills, which I'm a big proponent of that movement. We matter of fact, we just did, Steve's podcast on Wednesday, but, there's always some kind of clause that they put in these bills where it's like patient can't be let it can't be isolated. Family has to they you have to let family members in unless that family member is is disruptive to the patient's care. Right? And then what do they do with that clause? Oh, family you say I don't want my loved 1 to get remdesivir. Well, you're disruptive to their care. Bye. Well, I I would hope that Epoch Times would put something out there to help it create a ripple effect. So, 1 of the other things is, why did we have to make it a law in Ohio for patients to get nutrition and fluids? Oh, I know. Well, what yeah. Exactly. That that was signed into law too. So, yeah. So that that that would still be a current thing, I would guess. But, if you could get Epoch Times just to make some post in Facebook about it. If they don't wanna go to the trouble of making an article, you know, maybe maybe just do some post on it. I don't I don't know. But I just to suggest if if we could find out how the, how are you guys not seeing all these new feeds, these new profiles showing up on your feed? Yeah. I I so I do. So here's the way that you they're they're only gonna make posts in your feed, and it comes in your feed. They're only gonna make posts. Those are advertised, sponsored, whatever. They're only gonna make posts about articles that they've written. Right? So that's that's their whole point of the post is to get people to the article and then to get people to subscribe and then to, you know, whatever it is. Okay. Then So Why don't you approach Epoch Times about this hundred day thing? Tell them that you've got an alliance being formed, what John was talking about, and see if they'll do some articles on those while you guys are all doing your podcast. I I don't I don't know that that is something I mean, John's reaching out to the leaders of the groups to align them on a strategy, and I'm sure that with that would come some type of media, but it's more of a, you know, roll up your sleeves action. And I I'm not opposed to reaching out to my contacts at, Epoch Times, but I'm telling you the way the only way you're gonna get the information out there, you have to, like, hijack their feed. Right? You have to when they put something out, you put stories in. With the Mel Gibson thing, I was saying this on the other before this first space crashed with the Mel Gibson thing, everybody went in on the tweet with Joe Rogan and Mel Gibson. A whole bunch of people must have. And when they saw people who, who are like, that happened to me. That happened to me. They they told them about our group, and then they put their story in, and then we can get them all connected. Right? That is you you kinda have to do that. You kinda have to to to Piggyback. Like, people could yeah. You have to you have to take these big guys, these who who have lots of followers and, you know, the the, you know, the the Epoch Times and the Joe Rogan's and the, you have that's how you get a lot of people to see it is you you you look for something that they posted and then you post in that feed and you comment and you, you gotta stay on it and then, like, you know, interact with people in that feed. And then they will they'll see, you know, other stories and things like that. Lisa Butler is really good at it. She I've been doing a lot lately. Yeah. She does a search every day for certain keywords and goes out there and find you know, because it's all about if so here's the thing. If if if we get really good at victim outreach, then you can build an army to do the things. Right? You can build the army to to shake people up. Nobody nobody in government gives a damn if 20 people want something or or 20 people stand up or a thousand people stand up. But they they sure as hell give us give a damn if a hundred thousand people or 200,000 people stand up. But we gotta find the we have to do the victim outreach, the the people who've been impacted, or the people who care about the issue or know somebody who's been impacted. And then those people, we have to encourage those people to speak out, and we have to encourage those people to stand up. Well, maybe that would be a good thing to mention on the Monday night meeting then and try and get more people to do that. I mention it all the time. I mention it all the time. Right? And and to be honest, I've been mentioning it for years now, and I know you have because I know Yeah. You see, mister girl. I see you on the Go ahead. I mean yeah. Exactly. And so, I mean, it's like I I can't you can't like, 5 people or 10 people or 20 people can't do it for everybody. We we need everybody to use their voice. We can't use your voice for you. Right? Like, you use your voice. Crystal uses her voice. Stephanie uses her voice. You know, Miriam, everybody's you know, we need people to, so we need people to, I don't know, to get in get involved. What what else do you have to do at the next I mean Yeah. And You know what I'm saying, Barbara? Like, you you and I have You don't have to reinvent the wheel, people. You can just repost. I mean, like, all the things that Destiny has put in the purple pill store. That John contributed, the things that Noonie contributed, the things, you know, even if you see some of my stuff, just repost it. I mean, get Repost it. Repost stories. Tell your story. Repost stories. About 10 seconds to do that. So, you know, while you may I know I understand the feeling of feeling overwhelmed. I mean, my husband is no longer here as support. But in order for this to work, it has to be multitudes of people taking those few seconds to at least repost and share. You've gotta do that. Okay. Well, thank you, Gail. Yeah. I haven't heard anybody say that on the Monday night meetings, but maybe maybe we should reiterate that. I will. Yeah. Would you and if people wanna go on podcast, I'm trying to fill up a schedule for a podcaster for this month, and I have open days. As you know, if a podcast puts a victim on or a couple victims on, does these stories, and it goes viral because we make it go viral, they will have people on over and over and over again. We have to share the, you know, share the things, but, I mean I mean, Barbara, remember that 1 we went on and I gave out my phone number? Because I thought it was a little podcast, and I got all them calls. Yeah. I didn't know you were getting all calls from that. Oh my gosh. 15 views on that before he had to temporarily take it down for me. I was like, holy crap. I'll never give my phone number on a podcast again. Yep. And when we do these little podcasts and they get a huge influx of new viewership that they they hadn't had otherwise, then it will inspire other, other hopefully, other media to start picking up the story because they'll see, oh, this is a story that people are interested in hearing. Okay. Thank you. And, resilient, I just want to let you know your comment on, seeing a lot of, chatter and discussion on Facebook of and things in your timeline that you didn't necessarily recognize, it was generating chatter. I put it in the purple pill. There is a actual CNN article about, AI that Meta has, AI generated accounts. It was creating a lot of hoopla, and there was a lot of backlash about that. So you might wanna take a look at that 1. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Chelsea, we can hear you. We can. Yes. We can. Alright. So we're gonna go to wisdom, white hat, hippie, missing snowman, and Matt. Wisdom and then white hat. Did we lose wisdom? Did we lose WhiteHat? I'm still here. Is that WhiteHat or wisdom? WhiteHat. Yeah. Okay. WhiteHat. Alright. I didn't I think we might have lost wisdom. I'm so sorry if if he's list he, she is listening. Some it takes a while to get to the hands. Moe WhiteHat, you're next. Okay. I not usually I'm not a big speaker, but I'll try my best here. I wanted to bring up the fact that, this just when COVID was starting to get going, and and they weren't pushing any particular narrative. My brother was in the hospital with a very severe flu that was affecting his brain and everything else. He started to get better, and all of us they gave him remdesivir, then he just had he had a massive heart attack after the remdesivir. That's 1 sibling in my family that, this COVID crap has affected. And then my sister took the jab and took a booster, and then they told her she had something called Sambuca or a broken heart syndrome. And, I told her stop taking the jabs, but she still believes, the whole COVID narrative. And, she had to get some sort of strange electronic pacemaker put in because all of her, her heart doesn't function normally anymore. She's lucky she's alive. She was in surgery for, like, 12 hours. And I forgot what it's called, but, Sambuku, some it sounded like Kabuki theater. And, she still believes everything that she hears on, the mainstream news. And in order for me to keep my relationship with her, I can't, I chose not to argue with her anymore because I'd rather at least keep contact with my sister. You know, she's the orange man bad and everything. You know? And it's, basically, a train wreck, but, that's what I have to say. Yeah. That's so hard to do too because I've had to do that with people I love where it's you're what I totally get it. You're watching this train wreck, and you're just like, oh, you wish you could, but you've said it. You said what you had to, and there's nothing stopping it. So, well, thanks for thanks for coming out and sharing that. Like, these these spaces are for, you know, to hear from actual people who've been affected. I really appreciate it. And, you know, if you if you can or you you want, it would be great for you to document your story on the betrayalproject.org and do an interview. But and if you want to know more about that, you can reach out to 1 of us. We can help. Yeah. It's pretty hard to deal with, because it's like, I it's like she's convinced there's no such thing as any true reality anymore, and that means they got her. She's in their matrix where there's no reality. Yeah. She literally I go so the sky is, I go so I'm pointing up to a clear sky. Sky is blue. And she goes, yeah. It might be blue here, but someplace else, it might not be blue. And I go, but right here, it's blue. Right? And she goes, Mhmm. Well, that's your perspective. No. I said, that's the reality. And it's like her brain is so, you know, disconnected because she can't accept anything as reality because she's been programmed that way now. Yep. Yep. Very frightening. So the first thing I see It is very, very frightening. Oh, your back ear you're echoing. It sounded like you were better? In the Grand Canyon, you echoed. Mhmm. Yep. Yeah. I closed my mic just in case I was in case I was buzzing the echo. Yeah. It's totally it's Chels. Before I go to the next, let me see. Well, then and, hold out up here, WhiteHat, in case anybody has questions or, whatever for you. Go ahead, Chelsea. I can hear you. Important thing you can do for her is, and I say this every week, but I think it's really important, if you can convince her to abstain from consuming, the toxic propaganda media for even a month, you might be able to break some of those, those program behaviors and get her to actually, you know, listen to reason and and reality. Well, I I've actually, said, you know, don't watch CNN, Fox News, or MSNBC anymore because they're all, you know, it's all crap of it's all all crap. Good start, but really just turning off the bill completely is imperative, I think. Yeah. When I I'm speaking to her on the phone, I hear CNN in the background. And, I stopped watching that. It's like and, I mean, to me, it's like, I used to before all of this happened, I called CNN, the communist news network, and I was pretty close to the mark. So but she won't she just gets angry at me, so I I abstain because I wanna keep a relationship. I understand, and I'm so sorry. Mhmm. I mean, we get like that too with some of our relatives because it's very important to maintain that relationship, especially when we know that they're getting sicker and sicker from what they're doing to themselves. And so we're not gonna have them that much longer. I mean, I I I never when they started putting out these the jabs and everything else, I I just got a kinda weird feeling. I said, this doesn't feel right, and and I never took the jab. I I just, something about it just felt off. And, I already had some hard issues before all of this. And, you know, I I do believe there's some, what is it? I forgot what it's called, where people shed. I I think I've gotten some of those effects because, and I've tried to take whatever vitamins and reinforce my immune system as much as I can. But, I I I think that 1 of the things that, the jab does that they really haven't put out there is I really think it slows down brand capacity, because I noticed, just the way people drive and the reaction times, everything seems to slow down, and I don't think that was my imagination. Definitely not your imagination. No. I appreciate it. Let's go to got more hands up. So I'm gonna add them to the names, but hippie, missing snowman, Matt, and then I think it's Gary and then t bird. So, Hippie, you're next. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't have my hand up yet. I'm I'm I'm I'm talking to my roommate, so, just give me a minute. Thanks. Sure. We'll go to, missing snowman, and then Matt. I think that was what I said. Right? Yeah. Hi. Good evening. Mister Snowman here. Hopefully, my fan's not, too loud. We can hear it a little bit, but you're good. We can hear you. My laptop keeps running hot for some reason. Yeah. I don't have a great deal to say this evening. I only just woke up about an hour or 2 ago. Regarding fighting back, there's only 1 thing coming to mind, and that's that these, fake sexbot accounts liking our posts, and often ancient posts from even years ago to game the algorithm because, obviously, sex bots get downgraded in the algorithms. So that's evidence that that particular tweet is over the target and that the powers that be, that's what they're nervous about. So a bit like the 25 commonalities. I'm I've now started creating a list of these tweets of mine that have been targeted. And, I'm retweeting them, but I'm I'm actually collecting them in a different place. So I can see what are the common themes that they're most afraid of, and I'm gonna start directing more fire to that. So, for example, I know they're very nervous about me calling out the perjury of the coroners and the judges and so on and the doctors. Because being an eyewitness testifying to perjury online and not being sued, you know, that's fairly compelling. But even so, you know, you tell family and friends about this, and you just get that blank stare. Like, that couldn't possibly be true, you know, because it is such because the crime, of course, and the lie is so big. Trying to puncture that hypnosis is I think we've we're all very familiar with just how difficult that is, especially when people are being reprogrammed daily with the news. You know? I've mentioned it before, but I have conversations with my mom. And if you can sit them down long enough, you know, for an hour or 2, and they start to agree with you. No. Yes. No. I see that. Yes. And then a day later, it's like that conversation never took place. But, I see great parallels with the the old children's fairy tales and, you know, the emperor that has no clothes. Eventually, they say crowds go mad altogether, and they wake up 1 at a time. And, of course, people are slowly waking up in Mel Gibson's podcast with Joe Rogan. What's really struck me about that is how broadly it's been shared in the mainstream media over here in The UK, even in the newspapers. They're tending to focus on some of the other comments that were made, But, nonetheless, it's, you know, it's a bit of a paradigm shift there. So things are happening. I'm positive that we're still sort of even if things are getting worse, we're still headed in the right direction. Mhmm. But, yeah, I don't really have a great deal more to say than that. There's 1 of the thoughts that came up this week was, again, all of a story. So much missing. I think that's a that's a really great idea, going through and and identifying the posts that are over the target and and targeting your messaging along those lines. Yeah. I I would be curious to see, what the results are once you've identified those. You know? What are what are they coming after specifically? Yeah. I I think 1 1 is just the denial of the expertise of these doctors, you know, trying to puncture this sort of saint hood like, halo that they have. I can hear it. I can hear it. Yeah. Hold on. We we can hear you, Chelsea. I don't know if you can hear him, missy Snowman. Both missing Snowman and Chelsea are having trouble hearing each other. I I heard Chelsea. Oh, 0, she can't hear you. Chelsea that can't hear you. Yeah. I was wondering why because it was a little bit off on the conversation. Thanks, Elon. Yeah. Exactly. And it seems that it seems that poor Chelsea seems to be the beneficiary of that a whole lot. Yeah. But, like, usually like, the last 2 weeks in fairness, I was the beneficiary of it. That's true. You were right about that. I'm just thinking about the overall trend in long term, but yep. Yeah. I I I was starting to think he was just picking on me. Speaking of Elon, this is 1 of the topics that has been raised with, you know, I don't know, tens, dozens, hundreds of people are asking him about these sex bots. And, quite a few people have woken up to this tactic by the you know, I call them the powers that be, but, essentially, it's the intelligence services. You know, they're the ones that have the access to this. But that is a topic that Elon seems to be refusing to engage with, sadly. With you mean with the with the bots? I I mean, I don't like, I mean, bots have been around for a long time and have gotten more and more sophisticated. I mean, I remember back in my gaming days, we always had to, like, completely worry about the bots because they were, you know, they'd steal your data. And Yeah. I mean, this is a very crude, but effective, thing that they're doing. You know, the accounts usually haven't been going very long. They're often even only months old. Some are older. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have 1 or 2 followers. They're only following 1 person. They've got a a stolen identity from OnlyFans, and they they just like, you know, an ancient post that's a a bit more controversial. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's all sorts of different types of bots, though. Like, I mean, the I'm always purging I'm always going into my followers and purging the bots Yeah. Out because you pick them up I mean, there you know, there's the crypto bots. There's the sex bots. There's the the bot bots. There's the wanna sell you a product bots. There's the, you wanna give you everything you ever dreamed about bots. Yeah. I mean It's I mean, I've considered sort of collating a list of the bots, but they can spin them up so easily. You know, having Yeah. The bots is kind of, you know, futile. 1 minute. They but it's good to purge your followers from Oh, yeah. The bots. Right? And you can tell. Right? So But, and the the other comment I have to make, again, is about Oliver's story and how and I've mentioned it before. For my money, because he was sort of 1 of God's most innocent and vulnerable. And Yeah. And the lack of the ethical, moral, and legal protections that, you know, we think we live under. And if they couldn't protect, you know, this sort of Oliver being the canary down the coal mine, to me, that's a huge loud bell that the laws and, you know, our ethics and whatnot don't protect anybody. You know? And in that way, Oliver's voice speaks for everybody. But most people, when they hear Oliver's story, it's like, well, yes. That's an extremely sad story because, you know, born with brain damage, very vulnerable, you know, and it's hard to get past that. But in fact, he wasn't just an exceptionally vulnerable person. He represented everybody in that way. And, people are still really struggling. I mean, it's like I was, I was listening to the interview. I think her name was Stella. She's worked with, the COVID related crimes against humanity group. Was it Stella Paul? I can't remember the She wrote a lot. She's a she's a medical journalist that has written many That's right. And she That's right. And her her her husband had died in the care home. Yes. That's Stella Paul. She's amazing. And so I was listening to that, and that was incredibly moving because she spoke to the protocol in-depth and the BiPAP, and I often admit the BiPAP story or the CPAP part of all of us. Oh, yeah. That so that must have been on Epic Times t or Epoch Times TV, American Thinker. American Thinker. She did an interview. Yes. Yeah. She did a great interview. If people haven't seen that interview, she my husband was moved to tears because she explained, and she everything that she explained was so dead on and exact. And she, you know, she talked to so many of our victims from, the COVID Humanity Betrayal Memory Project. She sat in on our Monday night meetings. She took she looked at and spoke to people who were impacted by every single 1 of our our 25 commonalities. And she she's always taken such care in the things that she's written and the way that she has spoken to people. And, I mean, then she spoke at our rally in June, and she's a remarkable woman. It's so amaze she is an amazing journalist. Yeah. That really did come across. And 1 of the things that struck me was the compassion. And, of course, compassion is born of the suffering, and that's something I think that we're all very grateful for in this room is, Yep. You know, the suffering is shit. We can all agree on that. Yeah. Makes sense. I can agree on that. Have this byproduct of increasing compassion, which, of course, the world needs a lot more of. And so I mean, the whole thing is very schizophrenic. I mean, the suffering and trauma, it's all goes very deep, but you can't really have that level of almost Christ like compassion, you know, if we're doing well Yeah. Without suffering. But trying to balance it, still trying to accept that the suffering was necessary. And that's a very, you know, triggering statement even, you know, hearing myself say it. It's like, the I No. I mean, but just necessary. It's like Yeah. Well, really? You're you're you're very correct because a lot of it was unnecessary. It was predictable. We were trying to warn people. Right. Right. You know, all of this mass suffering, but seemingly But I know what you're saying. Yeah. Like, she does If we make if our suffering if we make our suffering Christ like and I know, it's that sounds like a crazy statement, but Christ suffered, and then he his suffering was not wasted. Exactly. Right? Exactly. It it would in in our suffering happened, and it and it is going to happen, and it happened. And we can take we can do 2 things. We can we that suffering can destroy us, or we can work hand in hand with God and turn that suffering into something that is, a beautiful byproduct as well. And and Yeah. It really is technically and for the betterment of humanity. Yeah. You know, it's an outlier. So, you know, there is a positive here, and it it it pays to try and focus on that positive, but it's so difficult. You know, I come on Twitter. Yeah. And it's 1 crisis after another, you know, what's going on in California. Sure. And and these Yeah. Current crises also help sort of compare this hypnosis I referred to before. You know, it's we're all being distracted. And this is 1 reason I haven't filed a COVID witness report is because most of my free time is spent doom scrolling on social media. And, and then my brain is exhausted because you've covered so many, you know, millions of different posts. And, you know, it's the perfect form of procrastination from more useful work. Yeah. I hear you. I hear you. Well, I'm glad that you, you joined us tonight. I'm gonna get to 2 more hands and then Great. Thanks for having me. We're gonna circle back around. Oh, always. We we we love when you join. So I'm a go Gary and then t bird. Alright. Just a couple of announcements. On Monday at 09:45 eastern time, there'll be a space on, probiotics, in a space. I put the the link to the to that space in the purple pill. The other the other 1, there'll be a space on Tuesday with, doctor Nas, doctor, Sabine Hassan, doctor, Kat Lindley, and, doctor Angela. And, those will be Good. What We're gonna be doing What's the topic on that 1? We're gonna be doing gut biome, digestion, and few other topics about, you know, with foods and all that stuff. So it should be Yeah. Shit. I better join that 1. Yeah. That's at that's Tuesday at 9. And these are gonna be recorded too. Right? Like, if we can't be live I'm sure they probably will be. That that 1 that 1 there is put on by Bree, Brianna, and then the other 1 is Amalia. Okay. Yeah. I'm gonna either need to be to listen to those or I'll have to listen to the recordings because those are send those to the next if you if you have the the tweets. 2 topics I need as much help as possible on. Thanks, Gary. T bird. T bird. Good grief. What is going on with you, and how can we hug you today? I love you beauties. Like, I swear to god. I wrote that to Kyle. I'm like, I I'm getting off the phone with Sunny, who's a nurse in Wisconsin, and we've been on the phone. She was having a down day. She's also injured. And we've been on the phone just chatting it out, and I'm like, oh my god. I'm missing my favorite show. And she's like, what the fuck? I'm like, it's my beauties. So I sent it to Kyle. I'm like, you gotta come in. My beautiful beauties are on. We gotta support them. And, of course, he came in because you guys are beautiful. I wanted to quickly, once WhiteHat oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. And your your story my heart and the men don't speak out enough. And, I mean, I say it's the beauties in here because they're running the show. These women are the strongest women I know and have given me so much strength truly. Had a breakdown tonight. You know, last week, I think I was on a high. I was good. And then, nope. Now my bones are back to you know? It's a it is a ride. I'm vaccine injured white hat, so I get what your sister's going through. I have 2 brain MRIs. I have demyelination all over my brain. I'm in heart failure. I've got cancer. You name it. I got it. I got it, baby. But you just try to stay strong. But then, you know, Sunny says something and then makes me cry because she's like, you're just so positive. Well, I'm I'm trying. Right? We all try. And what I wanted to say to all of you, Miriam, Chelsea, Gail, protocol, Sherry, all of you, you've lost people you love so much, and we don't talk about that enough because, you know, I was never in love the way I am in love now. And I I always put a wall up because I'd never wanna lose someone. I'd rather have the wall up. And as he says to me, it's like breaking Mike Tyson, and it's true. And I wanna acknowledge what all of you I heard Miriam's voice crack a little bit ago. And I just wanted to tell you, I love you all. And I can't imagine, and I won't even try to imagine what you are all going through every day, Gail, what you went through. I mean, you had someone save your life and pull you out of a hospital. Like, the it's so there's no words to write a book about. People write books about us, and they're making money off us. But we lived it, and we're still living it. And I just love you, and I just wanted to hear what are you guys? I I actually we I don't know if I missed it or because I know I came in late. Does anyone ever talk about, like, are you guys getting anywhere with this, the murders, the the your loved one's gone, and you can't take that away. You have to live that pain every day. But where do you go from here, and what are you all doing? And that's my question. A true like, I'm not So Yeah. Okay. Thank you. It's it's it's interesting because, like, you know, so the like, the shot injuries, it it's this roller coaster. You know? There's a saying. Right? You can you can, run a sprint or a marathon, but you can't sprint a marathon. And so, you it's it has its ups and downs. And so we we we take some ground. We lose some ground. We take some ground. We lose some ground. And, you know, I was saying earlier in the spaces that crashed that, we we've had a lot of people find us on Twitter. It's it's kinda interesting, and I did some interviews today and that people are finding us because of the spaces and because everybody is going out there. And when they see people commenting on tweets about the protocols that they lost a loved 1 or they went through it. They're they're telling them about our group. Right? They're telling them, and then they're putting in their stories, and we're doing the interviews, and we're getting them out there and connecting them with the spaces and the support groups and all of the things, the task force and the initiatives that we're doing. And so, so that's a really that's a really good thing. And when Mel Gibson, did his Joe Rogan interview yesterday, and I think it was yesterday, and said, that he his gardener, I think it was, died after getting remdesivir, and he couldn't walk for 3 months. People, commented on that about their own situation, and a bunch of these ladies went out and said, put your story in and, you know, and many people put their stories in from that. So, so that's a good thing. That raises awareness. For me, a good a good week is if we save people from the hospitals, if we stop people from going to the hospitals, and we save people who are stuck in a hospital with the protocol being pushed on them, or we stop people from getting the shot because it's all you know a lot of our a lot of our victims the the sad thing, t bird, is their their husbands were killed, and they didn't know that their husbands were murdered or their, mostly, it's with women or they didn't know that their loved 1 was murdered. And then they were afraid, changed their mind about the shot, got the shot, and got shot injured. So that so it's like this, it's this horrible it it's this horrible cycle that was totally intentional, and you're dealing with all of this damage. Right? So and then they feel they feel guilty because their loved 1 was killed and they couldn't stop it, and then they feel despair because they got the shot and got injured. I I have these conversations with people all the time. Like, they and then they have this this red pill moment when they get the, the medical records, and they're like they're like, holy crap. My loved 1 was murdered. And And once they read that and start talking about that, they're alienated from their programmed friends and family. Yep. Exactly. Exactly. And that families are split. Families are and and here's here's an interesting thing. I was thinking about this today because somebody mentioned 1 of the people I interviewed mentioned hugs and how important how the Epoch Times did an article about how important hugs are. And I thought back to the first rally we did, and when we when we asked for feedback, 1 of the a lot of the theme of what people loved the most about the rally that we had in San Antonio, it it it wasn't the speakers. Even though the speakers were amazing, it wasn't the even though the march was amazing and the empowerment was amazing, it was all amazing. They they it was the fact that, you know, like, we expected maybe a hundred people would show up, 500 almost 550 people showed up. And it was the fact that it was the hugging each other. It was the hugs. And the 1 thing people who lost somebody are missing is that person's physical I mean, that's just 1 of the the the most the deepest thing is that hug, to hug them. And and I was so I was thinking about I even am like, my husband's a hugger. He's a great hugger. I'm not as much of a hugger, but I even loved that about the rally, being able to hug everyone's neck. And some some of y'all I wanted to no. I'm just kidding. Hug you a little tighter than other No. We've been in these meetings and support groups with most of these people for for years before they ever got to see each other face to face and have experienced that hug, and it meant so much. And and widows helped and widows helped widows get there. They picked them up along like, you have people coming from the North, driving through multiple states, picking other people up, like like the barrel of monkeys. Right? Like, you know, like, they would pick them up, helping them get it. You know, like, they would you know, a 4 in a room or whatever it took that to get people took second jobs to get there, and it was so beautiful, so beautiful. And and that when I think about the fact that's if there's ever a the biggest impact money, you know, like, the the loss of an income, the loss of this, but it's the loss of that person that they love so deeply. That is the biggest crime of all. And so everything is a win when we I mean, it everything is a win. Like, every little win and big win is is some we celebrate that. And every loss, we console each other. Right? Like, a 1 widow lost her case in California. The judge ruled against her, and the other is waiting. That widow, everyone, you know, consoled her, but she's it it was a deeply felt loss. It wasn't just like she that case was lost. It was a very liberal judge. And it it it impacted it I think anybody would say this. It impacted the entire community of supporters that she had, and we're waiting for a decision to come out this week on the first case, and that judge has been deliberating it for 3 weeks now. And I hope that's a good sign. I hope she wins. But, and we will celebrate her win as a group, as a community, and we will console, if it's a loss, her loss. So Thank you. I I just wanted to get an update if there's anyone winning anything. Like, you know I'm fighting. I've got legal cases this case, my insurance company. I mean, you name it. I'm trying my best as a sick person with no husband and no 1 me. And I just wanna know if anyone's winning. It because they're going to find every loophole to like, as much as we can find the loopholes and try our best, I feel like we're all alone. And even though we have each other, you can't bring back our loved ones, and you can't bring back our health. And you're right exactly to your point. I'm sorry. I have to hand up. Money it doesn't matter if you're a millionaire. Well, obviously, if you're a millionaire, you did this, and you're part of the elite club. And you're gonna be fine because you didn't get the shot, and you can get through it. Right? But it's like you can't freaking fix this. You can't take away the pain, physical pain, suffering, the organ failure, the death. You can't bring these children back, our husbands back, our wives back. It's just you can't do it, but we we are not getting any kind of I just don't feel globally, we're getting no resolve. What and I'm not being negative. I'm being realistic because Mhmm. Is anyone hey. Do you know, Gail? Is anybody gotten any resolve? I'm fighting my hardest. I lost all my money. Well, I see. And here's the yeah. Here's and here's the hard part too is, I don't know how it is in Canada, but in a lot of states in America, it's a loser pace their loser pay states, and I'm just gonna speak real here. So so some of the widows or, you know, some of the the victims get hit with if they lose or their case gets dismissed, they get hit with a huge huge can be anywhere from 10,000 to a hundred thousand dollars depending on how long the case went. They're getting hit with that with that those legal fees of the other side. So it's a double we've seen that recently, and that's just a reality, guys. I'm not trying to be a downer. You you have to know all the all the facts. Right? Like, so, so we have these these victims. Their their loved 1 was murdered by the hospital, and then these bastards turn around and, and get a judgment or a a award against them for 10,000, 20 thousand. The 1 I heard about today was 45,000. Right? So it and I I I I I'm so angry about it, quite honestly, because I'm so angry about these these things, and I know that it's a part of the system, but we've got to get we've in America, we have a lot of work to do in every freaking state to get rid of some of this tort reform, and I say this every week, so that regular people like you and I who are harmed can access the freaking courts that are supposed to to bring us accountability against these big companies and these big, you know, that that have done harm to us. And so and so I I I'm thinking I'm going to contact a lot of people that in the media that I've done their show or, what whatever. I'm I'm this is how angry I am. I want them to have these people on who have been absolutely crucified by these freaking hospitals with the deep pockets and and, had their loved 1 murdered, and and then they have this debt now. I mean Name? Frick. 1 of the 1 of the guys Name and shame. Name and shame. Yeah. 1 of the guys is 18 years old. They killed his mama. I mean, they killed his mother when he was 16, and now he's got freaking debt because some liberal judge threw out his case because of the PERP Act. So it's like, I yeah. So, like, the I feel those losses. Whenever I feel those losses for anybody, everybody who knows me, they know, like I'm like I'm like, where's my sword? Where's the armor of God? I'm putting it on. And, you know, but then I step, you know, I step outside, like and we had 2 feet of snow here in Texas, and it shut down everything. So so, like but I I'm like, I'm so worked up about that, but I I know that there's there's a win there's other wins that are around the corner. And I don't have an expectation that we're gonna get justice in the in the because we don't have a justice system. We have a legal system. But I am encouraging and my goal always has been to encourage people to tell their stories everywhere that they can. We we need people to get on these podcasts. We need people to be every single I don't care how little or big the podcast is. Get on it. Tell your story. We should have hun we should have thousands of people writing the podcasters, writing the legislators, writing the you know? Gosh. Could you imagine if everybody who was injured by the shot or injured by the protocols all got together and would just, like, just, like, hounded these people, hounded our legislators, let them know how many of us are out there. You're talking about if 1500000.0 people were killed in the hospitals, got the protocol and were killed in the hospitals, which it's probably higher, I've heard. But if 1500000.0 people got the protocol and died, and then you count all the the the few survivors or whatever, if their family members rose up, multiple family members in every family, how much would that be how scary would that be? That's just in America. And then you add the people who are are shot injured to that, that this shit would end tomorrow. Amen. People need to speak loud and get loud. And the other thing is, yeah, get the truth out there, but also starve the beast. Get healthy. Get healthy. Don't don't be put back into the system, and don't comply. Between that with a 2 pronged attack like that, if everybody would do it, get loud, speak the truth, tell it everywhere, don't shut up, and then not not lend yourself to get sick or where you have to be in the hospital, they'd lose because we'll starve the system. We'll starve the beast. You you got the truth and starving the beast will do it. Yeah. And and not just starving that beast. Starve, you know, starve all the, you know, the the companies that hate us. The I mean, like, starve it all. The turn off the TV. Get you know, they don't call it programming for nothing. Don't don't this is not the time for entertainment. Yep. This is not the time to entertain yourself. Like, I tell myself like, I have the only time I take away from work and the fight you know, you gotta work to pay your bills, and then you got the fight. The only time I take for that is my grandchildren, is to spend that little bit of time with my grandkids. If if 1 of them says, you know, Nana, will you make bracelets with me? Nana, will you play a game with me? Nana, will you do whatever. You know? And and I and even sometimes that sometimes I'm on the spaces, you know, and I'm playing Candy Land. Right? Like, y'all have I've had that happen. But, it's because I I'm doing it for them, but I they can grow up very fast, so I I need to take those moments. But, otherwise, their entertainment? Screw that. I don't have time for that. I don't have time for the TV. I don't have time for stupid stupid, games on on a computer. I I don't have time to go out drinking. I don't have time to not that I ever did. But, you know, like, in the summertime, I'll spend some time in the sun in the pool, but that's that's it. Like, we'll we'll go out there and throw a football around for our health, but or swim. But, yeah, I'm That is so true. Everything you're saying. I mean, people need to understand. There's only 1 antidote to the lies and the crap that comes out of the system, and that's the truth. So you have to Yeah. You have to disengage from the lying system and engage in the battle. Period. Disengage from the lying system, engage in the battle, and make sure that you're fit and healthy for the battle because you don't want to be dragged into the secure system. Seriously. And on that Okay, Miriam. Okay, Miriam. I will work on my health. You've convinced me. I I know I gotta shed those pounds. I'm gonna work on it. You can be my accountability partner. Hey. I will tell you this. In in all transparency, people, there is a fine line between, you know, getting healthy and then getting to the point that you have no reserves. Honestly, if if you've never watched Naked and Afraid, the people who have a little body fat do better. Okay? So what I'm saying is that you can't you gotta have moderation in all things. Okay? You gotta be healthy. That's why But you can't be, oh, all about the superficial shallow. You know, I'm gonna be super thin because you won't make it in times of pain at that point. So there Yeah. And I jokingly say to my nurse practitioner, I've gained 25 to 30 pounds since my husband passed. And I and I have jokingly say, you know what? I'm not losing that because I was very, very thin at the point. I was 1 45 before he passed. And, I'm like, nope. I'm keeping it because there is actually utility in that. So if there's a fine balance in being you know, you gotta be focused on the right things, and healthy is not necessarily what the Hollywood image is, people. Man, when they tried to starve me, I was like a bear in hibernation. They would have never killed me. 12 days without food was nothing. And see? That and people think that, you know, Gail was joking, but this is the truth. Sometimes, you know, it that you can be better prepared than you think in in your health status, but, you know, you can always improve it. But like I said, make sure you stop swallowing the lies. Get out of the the lying bee system and get into the truth. Find the truth, seek it out, and then share it like crazy with everybody. And there's so much out there now. You can all you gotta do is hit a button to share it. It's so it's it's not hard. Okay? And you will you will feel empowered from that, and you'll feel it will it will inspire you to continue. So I I just can't encourage people enough to get in the battle even if it's just sharing information and sharing truth and relentlessly doing it. No matter how many times they take it down, put it back up. I mean, keep going at them. Exactly. I see Kyle's got his hand up, and I I think he has his hand up. I I'm having a little trouble now with hands, just so you guys know. And on the subject of being prepared, I just wanted to mention I threw the article, we did, derived from the the Monday night meeting where Scott Miller came on and educated everyone about how best to to be prepared for whatever it is they throw at us next. And, that is in the next. Kyle can you on. How are you doing? Hey, girls. Just wanted to come in. I was in a space last night. We're talking about a couple things with lawyers, and, I had this idea of a lawyer's coalition, and I did post it down there. I think I tagged Robert Barnes, Alexis Anderson, which she works under Robert Barnes. And, obviously, if you guys know, he's been huge into this stuff. He's a huge constitutional lawyer and, really pissed about what's happened. If anybody knows him in this space or that is listening, maybe Ernest or just anybody any anybody in here, we need to get a lawyer's coalition. We have the sheriff's coalition going with doc Pete Chambers. We need to get a lawyer's coalition I don't wanna I don't wanna cut you off, Kyle, but I think this does exist in the form of Freedom Counsel Okay. Which is, who we are referring everyone to at this point. If you Yeah. Somebody wants And so so yeah. And Freedom Council, that's Warner Mendenhall's group, and it's council, s e l, not so people always have a it's an s e l at the end. But, they do have I think when we were in Oklahoma, Warner said over over 200 attorneys that are now part of that, they, you know, they're working they're it's kinda like if you think about I remember when they formed it and I think it was Catherine or somebody that said, it's kinda like how the, excuse me, the frontline doctors formed frontline doctors and this coalition of doctors that shared information and and and work to help patients and, you know, all these things were formed out of it. It's the same thing with lawyers that are are, you know, working on these COVID related cases, whether it's they're just trying to find ways to penetrate the armor and get through the the corrupt court system, which and and actually get around a lot of the laws that We, the People, allowed to be passed. And, so they so there's a there's 3 sign ups on that website. There's 1 for, lawyers who want to be in the fight and wanna share information and want to learn. There's and and collaborate because not small law lawyers can't don't have all the deep pockets. And then so there's 1 for lawyers. There's 1 for victims who are looking for a lawyer, who would like to connect with a lawyer if there becomes 1. And then there's a third sign up for, expert witnesses who want to be in the fight. So Yeah. So if we can if we can just kindly post that, on on these at least down here, then I'm gonna re repost, and then, and I'll send that to as many people as I can DM. Yeah. Kyle And I and I am putting it in the purple pill right now along with a couple of screenshots of the 3 different areas that, Gail mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. And Warner and watch for follow them because they have spaces pretty frequently. I think they have them weekly, don't they? And and they answer questions. See new ones on their page, but I did pin a tweet from them to the Yeah. So, you can follow them from there. And yeah. Well well, God bless you, girls. And I just wanted to say that I'll make sure that I follow-up as well. And then we talked about that with T Bird. You know, she's in Canada, and, I'm trying to figure out who we can reach out there. And doctor O had said that he has a few doctor friends up there, and I DM ed him. And I'm I'm hope hoping to hear back because we need to figure out somebody up there in Canada that can talk to her. And if someone will at least look at her stuff from here, if they won't do it up there, And then however we have to do it, I'll go out of my way to do whatever I have to do, drive, whatever the hell it is. I've had it. I have had it with what I hear, and what she's going through up there. I've I've absolutely had it. So thank you. God bless y'all. Yeah. I you're the best, man. I I know. People who've been waiting, but I'd love to let t T Bird go after Kyle. Yeah. I just feel like I should adopt T Bird, and then she would be an American citizen and can come to Texas. Hey. What Trump what Trump wants, Trump gets. I think Trudeau went. I think 1 of the people that was working for Kennedy gave me a little birdie even though I t bird. Oh. I know there's a hand Scott, I'm so sorry. Youngblood, I'm so sorry. I don't wanna let him go first. But, truly, I do believe Trudeau went after he went on his little ski trip and didn't speak about his, you know, deputy, which is your vice president. She just quit. She went under the bus. Guess what? He ended up back at Mar A Lago after New Year's. Did anyone know that? Yeah. And then he stepped down a few days later. I bet you Trump has shit on him, and I bet you Trump already Oh, I do too. Yep. I do believe it. Big time. Big time. And I I bet it has to do with kids. Yep. Me too. Probably Amen. You probably gave them a spanking. Yep. And I'm actually looking forward to the to the time that we are, fellow citizens and Can America Yeah. From from Can America to Peru to Ameripuru, we shall be able to travel. I love you guys. Okay. No. Let him go. And then I I gotta tell you guys, it's huge, but let him go. I feel so bad. I I don't Alright. And and shame shame on me because I skipped that. Green Greenland America. Don't forget Greenland America. Don't forget Greenland. Forget Greenland America. Oh, yeah. Right. It's right on our plateau. It's the same latitude as, as all our, Aboriginal as my son, his best friends are, and he's very angry. If I say Indian, he gets very angry with me. You can't do that. The it's Aboriginal. So that's what I know now. I'm old. Right? I old. Mhmm. Okay. Sorry. I cut Matt off again. Shit. Sorry. Weird. It's okay. I keep skipping him. Go ahead, Matt. I'm so sorry. I'm starting to think Gail did that on purpose after, after what I said after what I said in my own space last night, but, I'll leave that there. Dude, go ahead. No. Seriously, I was I was I was I was, nurse Michelle Peterson said something in there, and I was like, that's a homily. I'm pretty sure if Gail hears this, she's probably gonna get a kick out of me saying that. But Yeah. But, but no. The the this is as I said earlier, the the the guys, the game has not even begun. You you think you think you think the fight's now you think the fight was getting Trump in there? No. No. No. No. No. That was a fight. But but now you gotta now you've gotta actually put the pedal to the metal. And, yeah, it's gonna be messy at times because you're gonna have different coalitions focused on different issues. But it but but the things the things gonna have to do be you've got to, for lack of a better term, wrangle all these people together and get them focused on the on the on the same issues at the same times. And sort of like John was talking about earlier, get them get them on these common objectives and and make sure we get them all done because that's that's how we're gonna move the needle. Remember and and Gail can speak to this. Anybody who's been involved in politics for any any number of time can speak to this. Politics is not a game of leverage. I'm I'm sorry. Politics is a game of leverage, not access. Meaning, your ability to get something done is not dependent upon you having access and having meetings with your favorite politicians. It's dependent on what can you leverage over them. Meaning, it's it's it's like what the unions would say to the say to Democrats that, hey. If you hey. We got a good memory. If you don't do what we want come November, we'll make sure you're out of office. It's that it's it's that it's that kind of leverage that that we need to have and say, hey, Trump, if your if you and your people don't do this, we'll we'll make sure your we'll we'll we'll make sure people know. We're gonna make sure people know. We're gonna embarrass the snot out of you if you if you don't. That that's that that's what that's what that's what needs to be done here is that we need to use the leverage that we have on on these people. And 1 and 1 more thing, I I I am also waiting for whatever dirt comes out about the whole, about the whole Trump and Obama thing at the at a card funeral. Did you see that, apparently, people reading lips were were trying to this is hilarious. They were trying to put together what the heck they were doing. That was hilarious. That. When when they were doing, like like, do they do do they do they all know my big Michelle's doing that 1? That was funny as hell. That was very funny. That was hilarious. I have said well, as soon as I heard Garth Brooks and What Their Face sing imagine, I had said the own the luckiest person at Jimmy Carter's funeral was Jimmy because he didn't have to endure any of that shit. But, yeah, I saw that. And I saw the big ice wall between Jill and Kamala and, you know, the and George Bush go in and and and, you know, slap a like, they were all, like, these these buddies and it was and Yeah. And Melania. Like, I I really felt like the the like, Trump between Trump and Obama, I I felt like it was a I know it was you, Frodo moment. Like, it was you did like, in just the way Melania looked, that's the way a woman looks when you go after her family. Because you want you wanna you wanna piss off a woman, you go after her family, and she will it she will she will find her mama bear, her wife bear, her inner Sarah Connor, her she will I mean, like, it that is how women are. You mess with their families, and they are gonna they that's why that's why you see the widows and the mamas who whose whose loved ones were killed. That's why you see them. They may cry Yeah. But they're fighting mad because that was their person. That was their loved 1. And a mother and a wife, they like, I know me. Like, some I am like, my my husband used to always they used to always joke that I had a nana chopper. You know, I was a helicopter mama and a helicopter nana, but my husband was like, it's not even a helicopter anymore. It's a fighter jet that I crawled into. Like, I am like like, I like, god help. Like, that's you know, like, even when they tried to kill me, that's why he said, you better hope she dies, man. You better hope she dies. I I remember you saying that, and now I think I think we all know why now. It's well, it's you know? The viewer is an absolute firecracker. And I I mean that as a term of endearment, not an insult. I mean, could you imagine? Like, could you imagine? Like, being No. These people like, I I look at these these women These women. And I know that there's some men in the fight too, but these women in the fight are, you know, not the people, like, you would expect to be the toughest p the toughest women in the world, but they are. I've been fighting alongside these women for, since the since early 2 early 20 22, and they you have like, you cannot imagine the number of women in former feds that are the most impressive. I I can't even you know, you you got all like, if I start naming names, I'm gonna leave somebody out. But, you know you know, Jenny and Lisa and Patty and Vanessa and Deborah and Sherry and all these people. All all 3 of you for that matter. I mean I mean, that's not that's not even mentioned those who aren't in former feds. How about the moms who've been who've been in this medical freedom fight for years before we knew before we knew what a RFK was, before we know not before then, but before we knew what a model was, before Exactly. And all and all that. I mean, they're finally getting some recognition. Their issues are at least finally getting talked about in a way that so this this is Exactly. Newnie earlier. This the the Overton window has now expanded to where it's okay now to talk about these things. It's okay to talk about vaccines and vaxx injuries. The the 1 it's not it's still not okay to talk about to talk about the protocol, Devin, but I think that will still be there. You guys will you guys will eventually get your justice, and by and by golly, I and I I wanna say this in in case I don't I don't I don't get a chance to say this before the names. I I I admire each of each of you, and I had and I had forgive me for repeating myself because I feel like I say this too often. Okay? Oh, no. I'm not gonna forgive you this time. No. Go ahead. Just kidding. Oh my gosh. You are trying to make me a Catholic, aren't you? Hey, dad here. But, I I I will no. I'm kidding. You don't need to apologize. No. It's it's like, I I I admire you. I have I I've admired you from the 2 times I saw you on with Taryn Gregson. And both times, I remember thinking, I would love to talk to this woman. I I want I wanna hear her out. I wanna know her. And not only not only have I gotten to know you, Gail, but so many of you. Mhmm. Was it every was it everything you dreamed? I'm just kidding. I love you, Matt. Seriously. Oh my god. You guys are you guys I'm I'm I'm I'm very blessed very blessed to to to know you and to and to come alongside you in this fight because it takes all of us. I see, I I see mister Ramirez is down there in the audience. Yeah. As if you don't if you don't stand up he he he said he says in the movie, in the film Shot Dead, that if you don't stand up for the kids, no 1 will. Yep. Okay. Well, you could easily say the same thing about about these widows Mhmm. About these women. If we if we if you don't stay if you don't stand up for them, if you don't support them, if you're not there to to to to console them and support them in their in their worst times and their best times, Who's gonna do it? Particularly, if you are a man. If you are a man in in this in the room tonight, what do you do what are you doing for these widows? And I I know we have some men some men in informal feds. I'm not talking about them. I'm not talking to them. Yeah. I'm talk I'm talk I'm talking to you you this this is I can I can tell you? This is a group of people you need to get to know. You need to hear their stories. They need to be heard. Because what was done to them and the vaxx injured, j sixers, the list goes on, is crimes against humanity. Never it can never be repeated again. And and I I wanna reiterate something I said earlier on in the space before that 1 crashed. Wink. Wink. The now we actually have an opportunity to to to do something. That's that's what that's what Newnay was trying to tell y'all earlier. There are there are reasons and mechanisms in place to where to where we can actually get this stuff done on day 1 no less. And and and so and so and so as I said, the game has not even begun. And I'm I'm I'm very blessed to be able to be in this fight alongside you guys. Even though at times, it feels like I'm not doing as much as y'all, I'm not as committed as y'all, but I I am doing I am doing my part in bringing together every, all all the all the people and and the and the connections I have and the and the different communities I have a foot in, including this 1, to to have spaces, to have conversations about about things. I mean, for good for goodness sakes, we had we had Kim from America Mission and Mick cohost, cohost me having John Davidson on. Ernest Ernest Ernest down there, he took a mic eventually. We like I said, we had nurse Michelle Peterson on. We had Brandy on who I don't I don't think you guys have met yet, but y'all eventually will. She she and why do I bring her why did I bring her up? She she fights sex trafficking. Now I'm not I'm not gonna tell you the the other reason. She, agreed to come in there, but it's gonna it's gonna take that kind of coalition building, that kind of networking to to meet to meet people who can who can make things happen, who are in the fight. In other fights is, different than yours, But but we're all we're all fighting the same thing. We're all fighting the same beast that Miriam was talking about how that we need to break away from. It is a beast system, pardon the eschatological pun there. And if you and that and there's you know, Christ says something about fleeing from the abomination of desolation. And that's not even to mention things like end times, like, you're gonna hear wars and rumors of wars. Everything that Christ talks about in Matthew 24 and 25, that must happen before the end. So I don't I don't I say all that to say, I don't know if it's gonna get better or if it's gonna get worse come Jan the day after January 20. I do know this. I do know the people I stand with. I do know the people I'm willing to fight with until the end. And that and that that list is long, but just know it includes you guys. There's more that I'd like to say, and you know I would I'd like to Yeah. But able to yield. Thank you, Matt. We'll come back to you later. And, yes, can you hear can you hear me, Chelsea? Yes. Can you hear me again? No. No. Yes. Of course, I can. I just answered the did you did you catch that? I'm so glad you can hear me. I'm never sure. This platform is so So wonky. Yeah. We should build our own with American workers. We totally could. Right. Like like, maybe maybe he should rethink that h 1 b visa thing, and, you know, soon he won't soon he won't have to worry about it because we'll have Canada all the way through Peru America. TBO. Well, and right past the Whatagolf or Gulf Of America, Texas wants to call it What A Golf. Golf. McGolf. Well, you know, we don't do Mc any we don't do McDonald's here. We do Whataburger. So it's what a it's either know how Trump is about his McDonald's. Oh, he loves his McDonald's. It'll be it'll be golf yeah. It'll be golf or but we don't we wouldn't we'd we'd have to secede from the union just based on that down here in Texas. We could probably settle on, Gulf Of Buc Ee's, and that's, as about as far as I'm willing to go. I wanted to just insert in here since peep since we are mentioning, you know, the, Canada, United States, Mexico, Greenland thing. I did write an interesting substack on that, and I don't know if anybody's aware of, Elon Musk's grandfather's history with, an actual movement called the Technocracy Movement, and it happened in the 19 thirties. And they actually had a map of exactly that union. And he was a ardent, member of that group. So I wrote a substack about that 1 if anybody's interested, and I do talk about how that will affect how that could potentially affect our medical freedoms, social and political freedoms. So, anyway, so it does tie into our subject tonight. If you guys are interested in reading it, I'll put it in the purple pill. Cool. You always have interesting substacks and things to put in the purple pill. And for the record, guys, I still do not understand why they call it the purple pill, but it could be because I'm shade blind. Are you? I I am. So I don't is it is the the little thing with the little wait. Is the is the thing where you put the comments in, is it purple? It's purple to me. Yes. I see I see it as purple. It's rare for, for it's more common in males to have colorblindness, but it is possible. I'm not well, I'm not color blind. I'm only shade blind. And it was a good yeah. It was I yeah. So it and it was from something a storm that caused some sand to go in my eye. Oh, wow. Many, many, many well, I was in my twenties, I guess, when it happened because I was stupid doing stupid. I was y'all don't need to know how the sand got in my eyes, but, you know, just that's where that's where that'll come out when I run for office. And I'm You must have you must have been riding some dangerous, UTV or ATV But you kicking up things of that nature. Dude, you wish it you wish it was that. You wish it was that. We were talking earlier about the the legal initiatives, so I'm really glad to see that Catherine is on. She can give us, an update from Freedom Council. Catherine, somebody was just saying Kyle was just saying it would be great if there was an alliance of lawyers joined together to fight this mission. And I was like, I think that already exists, and it's called Freedom Council. So maybe you can tell us a little bit about that and what you guys are doing right now. Oh, yeah. So I I would say that that my ears were burning, but that's not exactly true. I I just saw that there was whatever. I saw a notification meant that you reposted something off of Freedom Council, and I was like, wait. Oh, wait. It is Saturday. I should I should hop on for a little bit. But, yes. Yes. We actually do exist. It's been a it's been a crazy, crazy few months, lately. I mean, we've got about 250 attorneys nationwide, that are are in this fight in in various ways. Most of them are doing, employment mandate cases simply because, those are those are the simpler tasks, essentially. And these are these are solo small practice attorneys because the the big firm attorneys just didn't show up. There's there's actually quite a lot that's been going on. I'm sorry. I haven't been here very, very frequently. I've actually started law school too, so that's definitely added to my plate. It's definitely an interesting experience, seeing it from the outside perspective and now being on the inside perspective and being able to, know what kinds of things I need to keep my eyes open for and and cases. I know I I showed 1 of, the cases I had to look at, to Warner, today, actually, and he reposted it. That was a vaccination case from over a hundred years ago. But in any case, I'm obviously tired. But, no, the these these initiatives are starting to to kick into gear. We and Freedom Council do have some connections with the, the incoming administration, in different directions, very different directions, and and we're working at how do we actually, use those connections because, obviously, the trust is is not there. Yes. This is infinitely better than excuse me. It's infinitely better than if it were Kamala and whoever is behind her. But it's not magic that everything is going to be good. So we're we're definitely focused on how do we, how do we do things from the outside too and, keep following up on these cases. Let's see here. We've we've made some interesting connections with people who have significant amounts of money who suddenly are finding us too. And so we're we're doing the little dance there to to hopefully start getting some of these cases funded, specifically some of the bigger cases, the hospital focused cases, people, you know, who's lost your loved ones. You do know that, pretty much, almost universally, the statutes and limitations are up for, malpractice. Almost. I believe Michigan, there is very narrow, narrow, narrow possibility for people in Michigan to to still have those statutes. But we're looking at it from the fraud perspective, which, of course, they committed big time all across the country. So that that's still in the works. That's still not, vanished yet. So we're still working on it. I'm sorry I'm not particularly coherent tonight, but, I can stay on for for a few minutes here and if if you guys have some more specific question. Thanks. I do. Okay. And then and then and Kyle have their handset. Go ahead, Matt. So so so, Caroline, do you have any, yeah, do you have any updates or any since you do have some connections, how are you? And forgive me if you if you can't speak to that. I understand. But, what could what could you do, or what what would you like to do if you had, if if you had a connection to say, I don't know, HHS, the FDA. If you had the particular people you wanted in there, what would you do with the just hypothetical, but but still, I'd I don't I'm try I'm trying to trying to get you to answer that without disclosing the specific connections you do have. Oh, yeah. No. I mean, well, some of them are kind of obvious connections that we do have. But, the way I look at it in particular is, you know, it's nice to have people on the inside, but they're gonna have their hand tied in many ways. But what what we really need to work on is we need to figure out what information we need on the outside to actually take cases forward. We need to understand what the structure of the payments were. We need to understand, what the communications were. We need to have, documents that were heavily redacted, released in a inappropriately react redacted manner so that so that we know what actually happened, and we can take, action against it. The other thing, that I think would be good is to put in poison pills, you know, small changes in the regulations that would actually allow, outside, con you know, oversight, essentially. I mean, obviously, we're looking at it from from a litigation perspective because that's something that sticks around. It's not politically derived. It's it's a weapon that we can use, and they can't really stop us from using it except if the the regulations are such that we don't, have the ability to go after them. And I think that's a that's a big part of it right now is There's a lot of cases that it's obviously wrong, but we don't have, methods to actually hold them accountable for it. So, those are the 2 things, big things there. And, also, we would like to serve in an advisory role too because there's nobody else as good as this group of attorneys who's actually been in the trenches, actually been looking at the cases, knows the cases inside and out, been fighting the cases, and been be getting, stopped in really strange ways. So they'd be able to, you know, help inform them from the, from the outside there what needs changed specifically so that we can actually move forward. And who has the authority to declassify those things you guys would need, number 1? But number 2, what what advisory role capacity would you want? Who would you want to advise? Whoever needs our advice. I mean, the thing about it is is that this is so overarching. I mean, everything has been affected. Every possible part of life has been affected. So we're we're looking at, you know, whatever contacts we can get, and and, and the the breadth of the experience of the attorneys is is pretty impressive too. This is not a group of attorneys that's focused in 1 area. So there are their their their collective knowledge is all over the board. And you asked another question there too. Sorry. What what who has the authority to declassify some of that stuff? Who could bring some some of the stuff you guys would need to do your litigation to light? Well, so there's 2 parts there. So first of all, when we do FOIAs, having friendlies on the other side, not trying to to play games with us is already a huge positive. So even just directly asking for something and not just not being fought on it, and just use the system as it was. And we also have connections that, I I probably shouldn't talk about, but who who's who has directly reached out, believing that this this person with significant power does have the power to to pull out unredacted documents if we can identify specifically what they are. And I I can say that the connections are all over the government. It's not just in HHS or or things like that. But, I mean, more connections are always good, because everybody has, access to different things and and different abilities. So Kate Seberg. Hey. Oh, this is great. I'm glad that you're in here. I just cut that for you, sweetheart. So, yeah, I this obviously is a little bit off, but I wanted everyone just this is where I put my hand up a long time ago. So I am very connected with some corners. Someone, I think it was WhiteHat, brought up corners. I work with corners. I worked very high level, colonels in the military and, oncologists, etcetera. They didn't believe in vaccine injuries. And just this week alone, I just wanna give you good news because it's really hard to break older physicians, older professionals, even myself of, 35 years. I was an RN for 25, 10 years before that, medical. And it you you're so indoctrinated. I don't think that people talk about this enough. We are indoctrinated to take these shots, which were not mRNA. It was supposed to be RNA. We don't talk about that. I lived through the first SARS. I lived. So this 1 didn't scare me. No. I got this 1, sweetheart. Thank you. So, anyway, what I wanted to say was I finally got the 557 page document, and I emailed it to doctor Colonel Susan Aiken. You can look her up. A colleague of mine. And she's been telling me ever since day 1 when I got injured, it's not a vaccine injury. You have COVID. It's a you're right. Right? And so she kept getting her shots, and I kept saying, no. It's not. I know it's not. We worked on so many exclusive cases together in our careers. And finally, yesterday, I sent her this document from Pfizer, which is the 3 Pfizers I got. And she wrote me back and she said, stay strong, woman. She actually believed me, and she's going to start advocating. And she has a lot of colleagues. She's 80 years old. So you have to imagine in Canada how censored we are here. I wanted to share that good news that as much as we feel defeated every freaking day and as tired as we are and sick as we are, there's very few of us speaking out that or get spoken out to collaborate together. It finally hit a nerve for someone that's really integral, who's going to make things. I hope, I pray, change. Please pray for us. Also, on the news here in Canada, just right now, our country is now threatening to shut down your electricity because we provide most of your electricity because of the tariffs. I just wanted to let you guys know that. I don't know if it's gonna happen or not. We know it's all a big game. But, everyone's like, oh, we're just gonna take over Canada. Well, now they're saying, well, we own New York State. We own New York City. We we'll just shut down your power because we actually provide all of it. So I just wanna share that. Love you guys. Lawyers. Yeah. I had a lawyer. They took all my money, well over tens of thousands, and did nothing for me. Told me they spent it on reading my research that I provided for other vaccine injured, including my own case. And I would love to get a lawyer to fight this lawyer in Canada that is corrupt, but I don't have any money left. So, yeah, there's our there's lawyers, speaking of lawyers, and I would love your advice on that 1. When lawyers take all your money and you're already poor and dying and you have no money and you use your life savings, which is very minimal because you didn't think you were gonna be poisoned. How do you fight lawyers that are supposed to be reputable? And I will go after this mofo, as you know I will. Is there any advice? And anyone that I went to Erin's theory. He's like, no. We don't help Canada. So it's like it's we're we're really screwed up here in this massive landmass here. We don't have a lot of people, but we don't have a lot of help either. That's my question. Thank you so much for listening. Yeah. So the, the the the the fees and stuff, it it it is a complicated situation. So, I mean, Erin is is right. I mean, there's not much that, American attorneys can do in in Canada, against that. And, you know, I've been watching it from pretty much all directions. I mean, I I I consult on cases, so I I am part of the research that happens in in, in the lead up to taking a case. And, you know, I'm also on I I'm also on the outside too before all this too. I mean, I talked to, I don't know how many hundreds and thousands probably of victims of of various sorts. So I I know your side of things, and I'm also in the way of, like, yeah. This is expensive. What what do you guys want? But, with with attorneys being dirty, yeah. There is there there I know know in Canada. I know in in The US. There's there's malpractice, that you can go after the attorney for the malpractice. The issue you need to do in order to go after an attorney for malpractice, first of all, you need to find an attorney who does malpractice, legal malpractice. Those are few and far between, because attorneys don't like turning each other in at all. And, but the the general concept to keep in your head when understanding whether you have a legal malpractice case or not is the first step that they need, the attorney needs, the 1 that's going after the other attorney. They need to show that, but for the attorney's malpractice, you had a pretty decent chance at winning your case. It doesn't have to be, like, perfect. It doesn't have to be, like, you absolutely would win because and it doesn't need to be the the level of of, specificity and strength. Just a just a you know, I I don't know the specific term for it. I'm sure there is a specific legal term for it of, likelihood that you had a real case that really would have won and that you suffered damages, and then you can sue them for those damages. So that's that's that's what legal malpractice attorney so a a classic thing that people get, sue attorneys for, are screwing up, statutes of limitations. That's the biggest 1. This is another reason why attorneys tend to be very twitchy about things, giving giving any kind of, advice or anything like that is because, they can they can get a whole lot of trouble about that, and so they tend to be very nervous creatures. But, so so that's that's where it goes with the malpractice. With the research, it's not, I I hate saying it, but it's not unfair that there's some amount of money upfront, because there is a lot of, digging that needs to be done because well, this okay. So it does depend on the the way that the contract is set up. So, you know, is it going to be contingency? Is it going to be hourly? Is it going to be what what it what is it? And some of these things I've seen some of these things be very predatory in that way, and other ones be I mean, we we just we're looking at 1 too where where it's like there's some amount of money, to pay for the research into it, but the contract was very, very explicit about that. It's not it's not to take on the case, but needs to figure out, is this a case that can be taken on? And there were certain things that made it no, not because of what happened, to the person, but rather because of, statutes of limitations being screwed up by another attorney. But, yeah. So I I I hope that kind of answers the questions. I would say anybody who's getting an attorney, be very, very, very careful about looking at whatever contract they give you. Make sure they write it out in gory detail exactly what it is that they're going to do, how long they expect it to take, what do you get at the end of it, because there are there are definitely predatory ones, especially early on. And I Catherine, I would also ask them what to expect in terms of communication because that's something that you hear all the time. Yes. They didn't communicate enough or they didn't you know? So what what will I expect to hear from you? You know? Because you also if you're paying by the hour, you don't wanna bug your attorney, like, every week for a little crap because you're getting freaking billed. Like, some people drive their own bill up. That's true. Yeah. I mean and that is that is 1 of those things where I I do sit in this kind of strange position where I'm like, I'm with you guys in the way of, like, just just tell them. It doesn't have to be a big thing. It doesn't have to be, like, you don't have to feel guilty if if the answer is no. But you have to tell them and you have to tell them when you know it. So I'm working on that. But at the same time, on the other side, I'm like, I know just how unbelievably overwhelming, the contacts get, and it's just it's just it is really I mean, I do apologize to anybody who's reached out to me that I haven't gotten back to. I'm, woah, overwhelmed and stuff. So it is I sit kind of like, yeah. Yes. You're absolutely right. And, yes, oh my gosh. It's it's overwhelming at the same time. There was something else that that t bird that you said that I'm trying to like like I said, my brain is really frazzled. Oh, about, the change in people. So I think the last time I was on 1 of these calls, I think I talked about, the, mandate vaccine mandate cases, the employment mandate cases that are now coming to a completion, where they're actually going to trial, jury trial. There was there were a couple really big cases that happened in the last, you know, I think, month, month and a half. And, they're really interesting. Even though it's vaccine injury and and not vaccine injury, but rather, mandate related. It's it's, you know, it's the people who didn't take the shot. It's not the hospital stuff. But 1 of these cases was against BART, and BART is the Bay Area Rapid Transit. So that's San Francisco, their transit system. And, there was a jury trial in San Francisco where the judge did everything in his power to undercut the plaintiffs. Like, everything to the point where he had everybody sitting on the jury or in in the, when they were making jury selection. He asked every single jury member, you know, what? Are you vaccinated or not? And anybody who was unvaccinated, he kicked off the jury. So the entire jury in San Francisco, completely vaccinated, and they went for the plaintiffs in a big way on a jury decision. A couple weeks ago, Warner and I, you know, there was a we we met with a a malpractice attorney in Arizona. We were there for for different purposes, but we we took advantage of the situation, and talked to her had pretty brief talk, unfortunately, about, the the hospital protocol cases, the ones that are the ones that are very clearly just classic malpractice, have nothing to do with COVID, but rather that the the hospital just did something, you know, just didn't do something that they should have done or did something, very obvious that they they shouldn't have done. And she told us an interesting story. And she's she's not with us. She's not a COVID she doesn't I'm sure she took the shot and all that kind of stuff, but she's a regular malpract well, you know, well off malpractice attorney, full docket, the whole works. And, she was telling us in the malpractice world, it's always been a struggle because, you know, you always have people in the jury who work for a hospital system or related to medical professionals and all that. So it's always an uphill climb, to get, judgments. And, usually, the judgments are gonna be, you know, smaller. And what they has have started to experience is that the jury the juries are not so they're not big fans of medical professionals anymore. They don't trust what the medical professionals are saying and that all of their jury verdicts are coming back at much higher levels than ever before. And they and they were like I I she was saying that 1 of her friends got a new record, settlement. It's not COVID related, unfortunately, because there's there's still they they still all assume that COVID is is untouchable. But they've noticed the shift in how, juries view the medical system and and, medical, quote, unquote, experts and things like that. So, there is a huge, huge fundamental shift in how, how the general populace view views this. And also, you know, when I go out there, like I said, start starting law school in a in a place, obviously, it is a very heavily democrat kind of, area and and, profession and all that. And, you know, I'm not I'm not being shy at all about why I'm there. And, the reaction I'm getting is very, very, very interesting. There's been a huge shift in in how people, view this whole thing. And they're very interested, and and learning about a lot of this stuff. So, I I would echo the the hopefulness that there there's we've now reached a point where people are, opening their eyes and are becoming willing to hear what happened. Wow. It's there's good news there. So Catherine, that is just so encouraging because I really think, you know, we've all been waiting for that critical mass from the general populace because that's what it's gonna take, I think. Yep. Exactly. So we've I think we've got 2 more questions for you, and then we'll go to names probably. Kyle, is your question for Catherine? Yeah. I was just gonna say, hey. Thanks, Catherine, for coming in. Appreciate you. I've heard a lot about Robert Barnes and and, and then, obviously, the under the under lawyer, Alexis Anderson or Alexis Anderson, and she was pretty aggressive going after a lot of this stuff. Kinda have some hope there. So as far as just a quick the first question is the Canadian American thing, obviously, way different legal systems. So even if you have a lawyer down here that's willing to look at T Bird stuff just to look, it doesn't really do any good at all, I'm assuming, just because the 2 different systems. Is that correct? Just the first question. Yeah. I mean, the the there's there's nothing, that I mean, we do have contact with some, Canadian attorneys. But, again, with malpractice, it's just it's it's it's something that you you really have to have an attorney who's who's really willing to do that, and I'm assuming that's the same in in Canada. But, yeah, no no American attorney, unless they're also barred by some chance in in Canada too can can do anything about it, nor nor do American attorneys know what the the actual laws are up in Canada. Okay. And then the second question was a is a stem cell thing. And if if Tiber is still listening here and she has a mic, if she wants to go into a little bit more, but, you know, she had a company that sent her stem cells that she had taken when she gave birth in 02/2005, and they sent them to, the states in Arizona. And then they said that she can't get them back. She's going through so that's another 1 of these battles that she was trying to help herself, of course, from the injury, and this place sells for life. They won't do anything at all, And they're fighting and fighting and fighting, and they're talking about FDA approvals and all this stuff. Have you had any cases, regarding anything about stem cells or heard about these cases? And if T Bird wants to chime in at all just with any, you know, more information on kinda what she's going through, it's kind of a crazy situation because she's obviously in Canada. And the the cell should be there, but they said they weren't there. And so this is kinda like, you know, America, Canada here. It's kind of an interesting, it'd be a really interesting case for someone to look at, that wants to see something insane, you know. Anyway, thanks. Yeah. I have I have no idea. I mean, on that 1, I I I'm I'm I'm I'm very baby here, and and so that one's way out of my, way out of my, knowledge base. That's for sure. I haven't heard anything about things like that, though. Yeah. I like I said, I was on our end for 25 years. I still am, but I'm learning as I go too. I I'm still a baby. It's unbelievable how corrupt our global governments are, and they are all in bed together. And that's the end of the story. And I don't know how any lawyer could fight against what they are doing. I couldn't believe when I wanted my stem cells and we started to do our research, Kyle and I would start doing 3 way culling, and not in a naughty way, Gail. You've been making me laugh, Gail. I have to say this. I put face cream on my face to make my eyes look younger, and you've made me laugh so hard tonight that it's burning my eyeballs at it. I'm not I like, literally, you're on fire tonight. I have to say that, and so are my eyeballs. But you're like it's just nice. It's just nice to feel loved in a community, in a a family where, you know, we don't really know each other. Probably never will meet, let's be honest. But it's just sometimes on a Saturday night and you're lonely and bored and, you know, it's just nice to be with a bunch of gals, like, in our pajamas, which is that's what I live in. Sometimes I don't shower for a week, you know. But I don't wear pajamas. She didn't think She didn't think she was gonna meet me either, girl. So just remember that. Yeah. Exactly. Anyway Right. It's true. We were in a 3 way call and Kyle pushes. Right? Because I don't have the stamina. I try really hard. I put a good show on. But he started asking all these questions. He's like, why can't she get our cells? Where are they? Blah blah blah. And he was, like, pushing, and then they finally admitted they shipped our Canadian DNA, all our stem cells to Arizona. And I'm like, why would you do that? I live 2 hours away. Why? Oh, and they wanted me to go to Duke University to do an experimental stem cell. That was the only way I would get access to them. And I'm like, wait a minute. I remember Lindsay. Remember Lindsay talking about Chapel Hill, and that's where it all started. Well, Chapel Hill, Rothschild, and Duke University, it's all coordinated, and that's where our stem cells are being shot. Just so you know, just sharing that. And I I share that openly because that is the truth. We hey, Kyle. We go in these 3 way calls. You take the notes. You ask the questions. I listen. I ask the questions because of what I know, what I've been through now. And I'm just sharing this with you, Catherine, and I admire you as a young lawyer. You need to know this. So it's it's way more corrupt than you'll ever get your head around. I can't even. Oh, and and when we say we talk to these people, I mean, they literally were on the phone with us. 5 different phone calls, and they promised an email. They promised a callback. They are all so scared on this topic. This is why I always go back to the stem cells, guys. You hear so many people talking about stem cells. Oh, they don't work. Oh, they're dangerous. Oh, they're gonna kill you. Well, then why are we having such a hard time getting hers back? Right? Mel Gibson came on Joe Rogan's podcast. What was it? 10 years ago? And talked about his 97 year old dad getting stem cell therapy. He was dead on the he was on his death bed. He had 2 days left. They gave him stem cell therapy inter intravenously, saved his dad's life. He got another 3 years. He said he felt like he was 60. So you hear all this negative stuff about stem cell therapy. So then me and Tibur were like, okay. That's it. We're gonna figure this out because she did this. She had the instinct. In 02/2005, when she gave birth to her first son, she had the instinct to get those done from the from the from the, umbilical cord. And so we call these people and they're just they're they're so and and they're almost rude. Right? I mean, Tiber can tell you. Like, it it they're they were rude about it. Like, well, I just don't know what I can tell you. I I don't know what I can tell you anymore. Well well well, guys, I've paid a hundred thousand dollars to store my stem cells, and you're fighting me on getting my own DNA, my own bodily matter back. You're fighting me over it. They will not do it. They won't release them. They keep fighting her. Now now they're saying they're in The States, and that's why I brought that up, Catherine, about the fact that this is kind of a convoluted 1. The fact that if her if her DNA if her stem cells are in The States, that might be a matter of, an American lawyer, you know, mixed with a Canadian lawyer. It's just it's just such an interesting thing. And I really hope, Catherine, that you can DM either me or T Bird, and we can look into some of this stuff. We have been fighting tirelessly for the last 2 or 3 months, Catherine, trying to figure out any way in the world we can save her, that we can help her. And, and and she deserves it more than anybody. She has been the best nurse and the best mom, and and god bless y'all. Thanks. Do you guys have a contract? I mean, you must have some contract. The and if you find find that contract. Yeah. I have to find it. It was printed. I remember it was printed. It's a long time ago. I've gone. Yeah. I will try my best. Thank you, Catherine. You're in the god bless you. True. Yeah. That that would be where that would be where you would you would look at it since this is just a commercial thing, that, you know, there's there's a contract involved and and what was that path that the contract took. And, yeah, I mean, as far as I know, again, baby baby here, and not not in age. I'm deaf I'm I'm I'm older than than some of my professors, which is strange. But, yeah. That that there there would be, because they're in The US, I would imagine that you there you could actually bring an American lawyer into it. But I I know for a fact the thing that a lawyer would need is that contract. What what what did you what was what was the agreement? And what did they say they could do with it? And, I mean, that might be 1 of the reasons why they're being kinda nasty about it is because they might have actually violated the contract. I also I hope you can use this for other of yours, like, whatever Kyle just shared with you. Start looking into that because we know specifically that is the state. Right, Kyle? There was only 1 state that they shipped Canadian DNA to. Was that Yeah. Cells for life, and it's Tucson, Arizona. It's a lab in Tucson, Arizona, and it's definitely cells for life. Well, so so the things you can do on on on your own that that is unbelievably massively helpful is find contracts, do FOIAs where where possible or local, public records requests. Public records requests can can be done basically by anybody. I mean, you that you don't need to be a resident of whatever state in order to do it. You can you can be Canadian. And, it might be that I I mean, it sounds like this is a commercial company, which is interesting. But, I mean, if there's any contact with governmental entities, that's something that you can FOIA or whatever. So, I mean, if you can dig in and figure out who their contacts are, what contracts might exist, that kind of stuff. That's that's extremely useful because 1 of the other things, for for everybody dealing with the frustrations of dealing with lawyers, is, they are overwhelmed. The ones that are willing to do this are overwhelmed in every possible way, because this first of all, for the most part, most of these attorneys, this is not the kind of law that they ever thought they'd ever practice. They're so they're learning it as they go, essentially. I mean, they know how to, learn it, but it's it's complicated and, it's expensive a lot of the times, especially the the medical malpractice 1 is takes a lot of money up front and it's all contingency. It's all on them. And, it's it's just a huge amount of time, but that's where you guys can come in in a major way. Not all of that time needs to be spent by the attorneys. There's a lot, a huge amount that you guys can do, to to bring that information out, you know, the contracts, the connections, that kind of stuff can be extremely helpful. And just having your records for 1 thing, having all of the medical records, having, billing records. At this point in time, billing records, any movement of any money at all anywhere is is is a very good place to focus because we're we're in the realm of fraud now, and fraud is all about the money. So those are things that you can do to to, you know, help the attorneys along and and be able to do the kind of work and research, that only they can do. And, Catherine, just to finish this real quick here, I just wanna finish this. That's 1 thing that Tibird did do. She sent all of her medical records and all of her research to that lawyer in Canada. Yep. She literally paid 200 and some dollars to ship it to her lawyer. So not only did she, you know, give her the, you know, the the digital files, like, on online, but she also physically sent a whole box to the lawyer. And so I just think that she has such a solid case up there to get the money back that she put down because not only did they not contact her back, they wouldn't even, like, reply to emails. Right? And I just think her case is so outrageous, Catherine, that anybody should want to look at this. I understand everybody's busy, but this is such a monumental thing that they've done to her. And it's the most absolutely outrageous out of law thing that I think any lawyer that has any credential or spine or backbone would love to sink their teeth into. That's all. Kyle, I wanted to, ask you a question also and maybe, give you a maybe a a tip. I know that you said something along the lines that they were insisting that she needed to go to, University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, which is where Ralph Barrick is. So you might want to in the interest of pulling threads, you can actually research and see if there are any government grants that would give a trail of them actually. And I would look at the company in Arizona and see if both of them have any government grants, that where that they would be collaborating some overlap on stem cell related issues. You might be able to catch them, in some kind of collaborative effort to funnel stem cells, kind of like how, you know, children are trafficked and aborted fetuses parts are trafficked to make money. My my spidey sense antennas are going up that maybe her stem cells got got, trafficked to be used in some of the things that are happening at, North Carolina Chapel Hill. So I would look for government related grant trails and see if there's some commonalities there if you're gonna do some research. Thank you. Can we If there yep. If there was a medal we could give out on here, like a gold medal for medical tyranny fighting. I think you guys get it. Aw. Thank you. Aw. Thank you. Thank you. That's so sweet. And just before anybody gets their hopes up, we will not be getting medals. We're actually lucky that we are not in gulags. So Ain't that the truth? I figured I'm on several lists anyway. It's not in the Google log. I'm at least on a bunch of lists. You know what I always say? If you're not on a government watch list by now, you should be ashamed of yourself, y'all. So you need to you need to take a lesson from us. And, but, you know, we would still I think we would still hug each other in a gulag. I think we would still be, like, lifting each other up. I wanna go to in search of because he's waited so patiently, And then we're gonna we're gonna go to in search of because I'm sure they have a question for Catherine, and then we're gonna read the names before we do any other, questions. So go ahead in search of Thanks, Huckleberry. Nice to be on your side again. Hi, COVID. And Yes. Kathy appreciated your presentations. Say hi to Warren for me. This I'm James Henderson. I that's in search of history. I wanted to make a few comments. First of all, on frustration about, malpractice cases. And I think Catherine's response was quite appropriate. A legal malpractice, if it's based on failure to bring a medical case against a doctor, it's a trial within a trial. You have to prove that the attorney was negligent in his duties, and you also have to prove you could have won the underlying in medical case too. And, because of that, I've been advocating that we never bring a pure medical malpractice case against the people responsible for the job the COVID jabs because a pure medical malpractice case is often difficult to prove. You know? They they hide behind 2 barriers. 1 is community community standards. The doctor say, well, I did what the allopathic medicine, you know, standards are, and that's off my defense in court. And another 1 is the immunity. So I have advocated that, every COVID shot injury case, either injury for yourself or, a wrongful death of a loved 1 should always have a fraud component to it. It should never be plead on purely medical, misconduct. It should be based on fraud as well so that a jury can easily find that fraud was committed, even though there was no medical malpractice, proven. But fraud, you see, fraud would vitiate any protections that a doctor would have or the FISA or the, government would have under the 1986 act or the PREP Act and various immunity grants. I think Trump himself gave some limited immunity to them. And, you know, I I can list out a number of ways you can find fraud. But before I do that, I wanted to say that, Miriam had a good point for, TBird, and that is if there was a contraction relationship between her hospital and either the, the Chapel Hill group that they were working with on the cell stem cell, experimentation or cells for life, then I think she may have, that contract between them would give America jurisdiction in her case. So she can bring it, she might be able to bring an action in America, and not through Canada, which is more liberal and, of course, more biased, if you can imagine that. 1 of my frustrations with the American courts is that since 1923 when chief justice of the use US Supreme Court said that truth is no longer the goal in, legal proceedings, then that gave the courts and the judges just an open door to reject cases on the merits and to put up all sort of artificial roadblocks so that they never find the truth. Their their decisions are ideologically based or grifter based or something. As far as the fraud is concerned, I think our chances are very good that we can penetrate this veil of immunity because, number 1, to claim that there is a virus out there that's harmful to the public and make 1 third of the vaccines of saline solution, 1 third low toxicity, and and 1 third high potency, is itself fraud and the public. You say there's something out there ready to tell you, and you need a vaccine, but we'll give you saline solution. That just undermines the whole ferry behind the jabs, and, it's it's fraud on the public. It exposes you to a danger if in fact there was a danger out there. That's 1 that's 1 grounds of fraud. The other 1 is to exempt people. I think members of congress, the executives of the 3 letter agencies. I know the executives of, Pfizer and pharmaceutical companies. They all were exempted from the mandatory, need to have the shots. And that that's an admission. There is now a real danger out there. I mean, the virus doesn't know who's a congressman is and who a common person is, or who a Pfizer executive. They're not they don't discriminate as the status. So that's an admission. There was nothing out there, but it was all a trump trumped up, epidemic and emergency just to to attain their, death, their depopulation, agenda and and and financial gain agenda. And, you know, to exempt illegal immigrants is another declared a fraud against us. I mean, the virus wouldn't discriminate between an illegal alien. You know, a vein is a vein and a body is a body, and you can infect anyone. And then, you know, the way in which they got the emergency use authorization is clear criminal fraud. And if your complaint, has a kind for fraud in this grant, you know, you can penetrate that veil. There were you can only get emergency use authorization if there were no, available remedies for the so called epidemic or disease or whatever. And, clearly, ivermectin was used and was been was actually used to prevent COVID in 2020, and hydroxychloroquine quill. And, doctor Peter McCullen list about 13 different modalities, including off label drugs, that were effective against the, the COVID. And there was absolutely no reason for giving the emergency use authorization. It was obtained in fraud, and, therefore, that pierced the immunity veil, for Pfizer and the agencies, c CDC and FDA and so on. And then, you know, to classify, the mRNA shot as a gene therapy in 2017, '20 '18, '20 '19. And after taking, some public opinion, you know, sounding, they realized that the majority of Americans will refuse the shot, so they switched and started calling it a vaccine. That was clear mischief and fraud and deception. And even classifying it as a vaccine itself was fraudulent because they first said, well, what's the role of a vaccine to give you immunity from some disease, right, to prevent you from catching the disease? And they said, well, this fact this shot will, will give you immunity. And then a year late later, soon they admitted, oh, no. It doesn't give immunity. It just may make the cause of the disease less stressful. And even then, it doesn't it didn't help. And that that that that was clear fraud because they knew going in it was not a vaccine, and they had to change the definition of vaccine to have some semblance of legality. Another brand would be, to use a, a test probe made in China that was impregnated with toxins, and then they put that up in the nostrils near the the brain and and nasal, area, that gave you the the the the, contamination with the toxin and then claim a a positive, test, was patently fraud. And not only that, it was battery, his medical battery against the person. And to use a a fraudulent PCR test, something that was never designed to diagnose a virus or or, or toxin, and to use it to generate false positives so that, you know, you can then be forced to take the shot. Again, it's clear fraud, for for them to claim that Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson and others and, others participated in a warp speed production of this vaccine, and it was something they created, was is now being demonstrated as clear fraud and misrepresentation. We now know that the vaccine was created in Chapel Hill by DARPA, and they sold it to the public under the label of Pfizer and, Moderna and others. And, and they had nothing to do in its production. Again, that's evidence of criminal intent, that will, pierce the, immunity shield. And I what what bothers me and boggles the mind is, you know, to distribute a blank ingredients insert with a vaccine? I mean, that's that's not that that that's fraud, and it's medical malpractice, and it's to remove a person's informed consent. I mean, a jury will just go to town on any 1 of these, showings evidence of fraud and, you know, to use gain of function to alter the virus. They call it the virus or the toxin, so that it's more transmittable, and then deny that you use, you know, gain of function a function. Again, it's it's medical fraud, and it's it's, pro jury, before congress. And, you know, these just the tip of of the iceberg of the iceberg of crimes that Fauci and Ralph Beric and others perpetuated throughout, this whole epidemic. Another thing is to, to claim that it does not alter your DNA. When they knew years before that they were doing scripts, what's it, crypts or, gene splicing using the synthetic snake venom. They knew it was splicing the gene and altering certain gene functions. Okay. You Yeah. You you've broached so many, different topics. Do you have, a a can you paraphrase a succinct question that Catherine can address out of all of that? Well, it wasn't really a question for Carrie. Just, Catherine would just, agreeing and supporting what she was saying, and, and maybe, asking her whether, Warren and and your team is appending, criminal fraud counts with any malpractice claims you may be handling because I think that's a sure bet for winning more of these cases. What's the protocol at the firm, Catherine? Do you have any thoughts about that, Catherine? Well, again, so Freedom Council is not a firm. You know, we're we're here to support other attorneys in in their firms. I consult with, Warner who in in his law firm, and so and and I am involved in a lot of a lot of the cases. Well, with the criminal, obviously, we can't really do anything with that, except for set it up. But with the Grace, Sherra case, 1 of the elements in there, is is battery. Is is, so and the then the judge let that go through. And that Good. Yeah. That trial it is a trial because, Scott, Shera, her her dad is is on an absolute warpath and will absolutely not settle. So that that trial is scheduled for June, of this year. So we'll see if it works. Hopefully It it set a good precedent. And, hopefully, when Trump comes in, he could replace a lot of these federal judges and on many grounds and give you a better opportunity to stream these cases through the courts successfully. Yeah. I mean, it's the interesting thing over time, and I don't know if it's an overtime thing or or going up the chain of the the cases, you know, up the up the courts. But, you know, early on, there were a lot of, you know, district courts determining bad things for our side on all all levels. And as as those get appealed, there's just 1 after the other after the other that that goes our way. I mean, the where where the, where there are the most cases are in, employment law, you know, the mandates people who who refuse to take the shot and and, were fired and all that. I think the last I remember Warner talking about it, he was up to 14 appellate court decisions that went very, very favorably for, our side of things. But that's that's mainly in in employment simply because those were the first ones filed and and so they're coming to their conclusions now and they're making their way up the court systems and all that. But, I mean, fraud is very high. I mean, like I said, I I was meeting with Warner just earlier tonight and that was the topic of part 1 of the things that we were talking about is, the how how to actually manage the scale of it, and specifically focusing on, fraud aspects. How how do we do it? How do how do how do you take a whole bunch of solo small practice attorneys and get them to work together in a way that on on massively complex cases with massive, amounts of, information and, you know, just just the requirements of the motions and the briefing and the day and the and the evidence and just it's just it's just a huge undertaking. How how do we I agree. I agree with that. I did some medical malpractice myself during my 40 years of law. And, but, I I always associated, high profile firms, to direct and stay and take over the, fraud and malpractice cases. And so maybe some mechanism could be set up where you have these, seasoned firms in fraud and medical malpractice that can mix the 2 because it's a criminal action and a and a medical mal negligence action. But they've got to be done to get jointly, and you can do it in 1 complaint. You have these firm agreed to act as steering committees to guide the the the other firms. I mean, I was guided when I did medical malpractice by more seasoned attorneys because I was, you know, a new attorney myself. But I know it's a big job, and the material is vast. But if you set up the right, structure, it's feasible. But don't shy away don't shy away, Catherine, from the fact that fraud is a high bar. It's a high bar. But if the facts are in your cases, if the facts are in your side, it's a sure bet. Oh, well, he so so Warner, he I mean, his his favorite I mean, he he he does everything, but his his favorite law is the False Claims Act, is fraud. And so, yeah, right actually, in the next 2 weeks, there are he's got 2, briefings due on False Claims Act, cases. So, I mean, yes, of of all he is really the perfect person for for guiding on on on, false claims act level fraud. The biggest difficulties with the the medical malpractice is that that has been in in his head. He's done medical malpractice too, previously, but minimal amounts of it. He has tried every I mean, I I said earlier in the evening here where we talked to a malpractice attorney, and I I mean, I've talked with several malpractice attorneys with him, and he's talked to other ones beyond what I've heard too. And they just won't touch it. I mean, they've been they they start out interested, and then they just they they just they won't touch COVID related even when they're not dying from COVID. They're just they just won't step in. It's it's very, very frustrating because they're so interested. Exactly what you're saying, Karen. I reached out a few minutes. Yeah. Can I break in just for a second? Because I know you wanna go to names, and Catherine doesn't have a lot of times. And we're kinda going we're kind of this is turning into, like, a conversation versus but because I do have, I do have something I just wanna bring up with you, Catherine. There's you know, we can talk legal theories all day and all the ifs and whats and ifs and buts for candies and nuts, what a wonderful world this would be. But the reality is there are cases that people have, you know, taken a shot at these hospitals, no pun intended, and the cases got dismissed or the or they lost. And these widows are looking at and and family members got hit with, you know, tens of thousands of dollars in, having to pay the hospital fees. And, that is a huge risk that they've been taking. And so, you know, we've got you know, Jenny got hit with 16,000. Somebody had to sign a agreement not to speak about her case really anymore just to not be sued by the hospital or have to pay fees their fees. Somebody got hit just hit with a $45,000, they because they lost. So, it's, you know, it's great if if you have lots of money and you can go on a tear and try to hold these hospitals accountable and you and you've got it in the bank to pay a hundred thousand dollars. I I think it's a trap a travesty that they're that courts are making widows pay for trying to sue, and then the courts are corrupt and the freaking judges don't, you know, don't act right. But, so what do you what's how do you balance that? How do you protect somebody who wants to sue, but if they lose, it is the client or the widow who or the loved 1 who is, kinda left holding the bag. Right? Most of them can barely make their mortgage because their their primary breadwinner was murdered by a hospital. And I you know? If I may answer that. No. I I wanna hear it from Catherine because they're these widows, some of these people are gonna lose freaking everything, and they didn't have access to the to the courts. I personally wouldn't sue. I'd rather talk about them because it's not worth it. It's not worth the risk. But in saying that, they also will get away with it and keep killing because they're untouchable, and average people can no longer access the legal system because of ridiculous tort reform. So how how much of a risk is it? Are you seeing those same types of cases? Well, I mean, in search is probably more knowledgeable on that stuff. I mean, the the particulars of of of that. I mean, from but from what I've watched, again, I didn't have any any contact with the lawyers up until this whole mess, and now I'm deep in Oh, no. Process. Mhmm. But, 1 thing that I've seen is that some attorneys that have been doing this, the it's it's malpractice, that they they they did not inform, they didn't you know, they screwed up statutes, they dismissed things when they shouldn't have, not understanding that it's gone when they do it. They they were not careful. Yeah. And and and the lack of communication and then just disappearing. No. And and some I know had had were were trying to do the right thing or are trying to do the right thing, but are getting themselves into some trouble. But, I mean, when I'm sitting on the side watching what's involved in a medical malpractice case versus a a false claims act case in particular, you know, the medical malpractice is just it's so brutal. It's just so expensive, so brutal, and and it's I I I mean, it's it makes sense to me why why attorneys would look at it that way and and and all of that because that that's logical. But from the perspective of what you guys are going through, exactly that. You guys don't have the money to to to go through 1 of these cases. It's not certain if if you'll succeed. The courts are against you very much, the the judges are. And then you'd need to appeal if anything happens because that's what's been going on lately. And and that's just a horribly expensive, difficult process. And Well, and, like, the the the California cases you can't appeal, you you can't appeal those because they're arbitration. Right? Well, did Christina's ever get did they ever No. No. That'll be, this week. The judge said that she, so the judge, it's interesting because the judge I guess, was like, it'll be next week. It'll be this week. It'll be this week. She's running late. She had there was a lot to look through. Legit. She's legit running. You know? She she the judge has been good in terms of communication. It's just, you know, sometimes there's a mountain of stuff to to look through. And so it's good that she's taken her her her time, but, it should be this week. Joanna Luna's case somehow got escalated and moved faster, and, she had a very liberal judge, though. Oh, something was decided? Yes. And Joanna Luna, she lost, and then they hit her with a $45,000 Well, can you can you send the the information on that case? Because we don't we haven't heard about it. I mean, I mean, we're we're not aware of it. So I don't I don't have it. It was about 2 weeks ago that Joanna, had, had told us, but she had also announced it on Facebook that, they were that she lost. And then today or recently, she got hit with with, you know, that she has to pay. I mean, I'm sure they they can fight it, but only to a point. Tyson case? Yep. Okay. So it's it's it's another 1 of his cases. Okay. Yep. And so there's I mean, I yeah. And then there's all the cases in, of course, Fresno that got hit. They all have bills. Right? They're all paying the attorney's bills even even the the 1 that even, you know, Mateo who was, I don't know, what, 16 or 17 at the time that and he's 18 now, but, yep, he's he's got a bill. They all got hit with attorney's fees, and it's kinda it's it's disgusting because the hospitals killed their their loved ones. You know? I mean, Mateo was 16. They killed his mother. They killed his only parent. And, and then and now he's gotta he's gotta he's gotta pay the killers for killing his mama. That that's disgusting to me. Yeah. 1 of the things we're we're trying to figure out, and we're we're we're absolutely not there yet because it's complicated, is how we we have now come across a a situation where we can actually crowdfund for for, litigation. And and that's what and and it's something that can actually, you know, be repaid to the people who who give the money. But, I mean, something something to cover both that outcome and also attorney's fees upfront for the attorneys doing the work because we wanna make we wanna lower the barriers to to attorneys taking it on and also not doing it alone and and having as much support as they possibly can. Yeah. That's all on it. That's all good. But Now they're saying they're being they're they're having to pay the doctor's legal fees. So so somebody kills your family member. I mean, it it's it's great that the that the lawyer's taking on cases with the victims won't be out of pocket, but the victims, if they lose, will still lose everything. Right? No. We we need to set up exact exactly that system. We need to have it so that that you guys, the ones that actually went out and actually did the fighting and and and did their best, I mean, you guys should not be Yeah. We need to find some support system to actually, you know, to to help with that. And and we're yeah. That's that's definitely in that that that was the topic of discussion tonight, actually, where it's like, oh, it can't just be focused on an individual case here or an individual case there. It's gotta be something that that, can grow on itself and is is not leaving anybody. Yeah. You know, because because I look at, you know, like, Joanna is a what she's she now she's, you know, she she's got 4 kids. Her husband was young. She she's a single mother of 4 kids trying to raise 4 kids. And now and now now these doctors that murdered this young man that was her husband, she has to she has to lose everything. Could could we write the hospitals on on behalf of those victims? They don't care. These hospitals aren't they don't they don't give a damn. These these they care about either. It's a drop in the bucket for them. Could they just let it go? These lawyers are these lawyers that represent they are I'm not even kidding. These Kaiser Kaiser's attorneys are the most vicious MFers I've ever seen. I I have never seen like, they are nasty. Nasty. The way they went after these these widows and depositions, how often did you have sex? How often did you like, the things that they tried to humiliate them with? These people are these are when when when lawyers do get a bad name and they talk about the slithering ones, these are the ones that slither into the courtroom. They don't There are a lot of slithering ones. There are a lot of slithering ones. Yep. Yeah. They may they may reduce it, and and they probably will reduce it. I mean, Matthew Tyson is a really good lawyer. He's a great lawyer, actually. He's very brilliant. But you can't you know, the the courts are what the courts are. The laws are what the laws are. We all have to do our part. The lawyers can't do it all. But, so he'll probably get it reduced. But the fact remains that even to many of these people, $10,000, 15 thousand dollars, 5 thousand dollars, I I actually would be pissed off if a widow had to pay a killer a dollar. But when it comes to 5,000, 10 thousand, you know, things that they can't afford, There has to be something, and these there are too many people right now left out. They're they're they're actually some of these victims are in such a state of despair that I'm concerned for their their well-being. Can you imagine being a point on that. Can can you imagine being an 18 year old kid and your your mom is murdered at 16? And you're 18 and you find out that you have this unbelievable debt now that you have to pay your mom's killer? Go ahead. Take go ahead in search of Yes. Just 2 quick points here. Attorneys are reluctant to bring these cases because the media is in the side of the, wrongdoers, and it's all a propaganda, sleight of hand now. But help is on the way. Number 1, we have to move into new strategy. As Catherine pointed out, we have to start crowdfunding. I know some firms I've worked with have created war chests that they build up to protect their clients and themselves if they lose in court. You know, you you lose, you pay. But the the biggest relief on the horizon is to bring mass tort cases where the individual plaintiff is not at risk. And when RFK hopefully reveals the criminal expose exposes the criminal conduct of the CDD, Fosse, and, DARPA and so forth. It will change public opinion, and it will then everyone will have the right to sign up for mass tort case. So it's not the individual suing anymore. It's a whole class classification of injured people, being certified as a group that have a right of an action against Pfizer, DARPA, and and individual doctors and hospitals and so on. And that will protect us. I think we we've gotta move into that arena to achieve success, and thank god Trump won. And we have a shot at that. Thank you. Yeah. I mean and I I agree. I I mean, I agree with you, but we've gotta come up with something to help these victims that are in despair right now that already are getting hounded. I mean, Jenny's getting hounded by these, by these guys to pay the attorney fees, pay the attorney fees, pay the attorney fees, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay. And, it's not And they just call relentlessly. But they they yeah. They're it they are punished. It's it's a punishment for how dare you go against the most elitist hospital, these these heroes of the pandemic. Right? Like, how dare you little person? Would probably tell them, Gail. I would probably tell them just just so I could. I would just say, you know what? I'll be happy to pay pay you whenever you give me back my husband that you murdered. Don't ever call me again. Yeah. And you can say that. I mean, like, yeah. It's great to say that, but when you lose your house Oh, I know. I'm just saying that I would want to get a pound of water. Exactly. I know. So angry. Makes me mad too. Oh my god. Makes me And I also would make a point of telling them, you know what? You better get the money while you can because when you're burning in hell, you're not gonna have any. I mean, oh, I'm sorry. It just makes me absolutely livid. They're soulless. Deborah, I I see you got your hand up, and I know you probably got something to say about this. Sorry. Well, I just wanted to ask, Catherine a question on the on the fraud thing. Like, is there any way that and you might have already told us this before. I just can't think of you doing it at any point. But, like, each state collectively taking the cases for fraud, you know, I know it'd have to be each state because they're each state's laws are different. But, you know what I mean? Each like, Texas and the cases there and collectively going for fraud that way, or do we all have to do it? You know? Why does it have to be all individual? We're doing the same thing. So so there's different versions of fraud. The 1 that I'm most familiar with because of because of Warner is the False Claims Act. The False Claims Act is a federal statute, which means that it's it's just the 1 law. And so that that applies across the country. What we're looking at, because it it will give us the strongest, evidence, first of all, and, and, focus here is to find and I think we've we've actually found a system, a single system with a large number of of, cases within it and, really, really bad, and figure out what was the structure of the fraud because it happened everywhere, just as you said. I mean, it's it's all across the country. It's the same thing over and over and over again. And when you have something like that, that means there was something instigating it in the same way all across the country. So if we can dismantle in 1 place what was the fraud that happened or what were the what were the manipulations that the hospital did to to maximize their bottom line, fraudulently, then we can take that knowledge and apply it all across the country. So those would not be individual cases. Also, False Claims Act cases do not require, the expensive, medical expert testimony that malpractice does, stun on contingency. It's it's 1 of those things where, you know, people who are the the attorneys and and, consultants and and all of that need to feed our families while we're doing it. So there's there's a desire for upfront funding, but it's nothing like a malpractice. Can I ask you 1 more question? Sure. The way that you were saying, like, with t word about collecting information, is there a way that each of us can help you get the information? You know what I mean? So that you're not looking for all the information. You're telling us what you need, and we go back in our records or what and find that stuff for you. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. So the the first thing to do is make sure you have all of the medical, sorry, medical, the the billing records and the medical records and your your, the the MAR, which is the the the medications administered record because that's 1 way to to go about it. What what, what medications were administered? What were the prices? How much they charge for it? Was it necessary? Was it medically necessary? What they were doing? Because if they were giving things that were not medically necessary and they got paid for it, that's that's fraud. And especially for people who were on Medicare, Medicaid, or or other, federal, insurances, that's that's very powerful. Also, we know the the I mean, I suppose if somebody really wants to go digging in into the to the policy issues, that's another thing that would be very helpful is understanding where the money was coming from. Because the Medicare, Medicaid payments to the hospital is is very that that's relatively more straightforward. You know, the government pays the bill. Again, False Claims Act requires that it's fraud against the government. So, you know, if it's a if it's a private insurance, that's not fraud against the government directly, but the money came from the government. There were other there was CARES Act funding. I know that there were other, you know, bunches of money that were just poured out everywhere. And if we can find how that federal money found its way into the hospitals, that's where we'll be looking for the fraud. So, yes, there's there's stuff that people can do if somebody really wants to go digging in deep into the where the money went. I know that that AJ De Priest did a a good chunk of this too. But then we need to find the the connection between the money that was given to the hospitals and then your individual records and and how much, was paid to the hospital in that way and what of what the hospital was paid was unnecessary. Okay. But all government insurance all government insurance, TRICARE, veterans benefits, DOD, Medicare, Medicaid, is all managed through an insurance company that won that bid for the business. So and and it and it's always been the the thing that they hid all this this crap in was the government's own, reinvention of those groups of, the codes, the, you know, the the the treatment codes. Right? The groupings of them. So this is this is where we need to so 1 1 angle is the medically unnecessary. So, or or, you contraindicated. So 1 of the 1 of the ones that Werner's been eyeballing for a while are are situations where a person comes in and they have, you know, already, acute kidney injury or liver problems or something like that, and, they received remdesivir early on when when it was contraindicated to have it. Or if it was outside the the range of effectiveness of of remdesivir, that's another 1. And I'm sure similar situations exist for other medications that they gave, where they were giving medications inappropriately, where they were not necessary, and so that that does fall under fraud. And it doesn't matter if it's administrated by, a pass through company. The money itself came from, the federal government. And so that's that's fraud against the government. So those are some of the the concepts there. But when it comes to people who didn't have, you know, Medicare, Medicaid, there was still money coming from the government and and being able to directly, track exactly how it moved is extremely, extremely important. But how could this kind of I'm I'm just curious how how you can get like, I think it will be difficult to get to fraud when the government dictated you did a protocol, and then you did that protocol because the government was dictating that you do the protocol and telling you they would give you extra money for doing the protocol, and then you did what the government told you and they the government gave you the money. Like, I don't how would that that I'm not sure how that would be fraud against the government. That would be like me telling you, I want I'm gonna sell you this thingamabob for $10, and you give me $10, and you take the thingamabob, and then it's fraud. So, I mean, I'm I'm I'm I've been around it a long enough time that I've I've picked up some stuff, but I'm definitely not, you know, totally solid on everything. But, yes, there are things that that, that actually does kinda work as fraud. But, more specifically, it's think of it in terms of, like, with with remdesivir when it was not being used as as the, the the insert was saying. So, yes, if they used remdesivir within the range and, quote, unquote, appropriately, then, yes, what you're saying is that's what the the government was paying them to do. Another another big, big, big part is, calling everybody COVID. We can't turn have COVID because they got money for it. And especially if you have a situation, which we do, have lots of situations where a person has no symptoms and they go in for something completely different, and then the hospital keeps testing them and testing them and testing them. That'll be good. And they're still negative, and then they get, you know, the protocol and they're called COVID. Right. And they they they went, and then they they, put in a claim for money for treatment for a COVID patient, and they have no proof that this person ever COVID. That that that is that is fraud. Well, I'll give you a, so I won't say where I worked, but, at the time, but because I I worked there for 12 years, and it was insurance and was a big health insurance company. And in 2021, they did an audit, and all the insurance companies did an audit because they had been paying these COVID claims for the treatments 100% like the government told them to for a long time. And so in in 2021, mid I think it was, like, July or August of 20 21, right before the mandates came down, they decided to do an audit of all of their COVID cases and asked the hospitals to provide positive tests. And only only about 60 percent of the cases could they prove a test. So you I don't know if there's a way to get that information, that those statistics from the insurance companies, but, I do know that those audits happened at the same time that the mandates were coming. And part of that was because the TRICARE and the Medicare bids or business was out for bids, that it was it was in it was there for the taking, and that's how they may that's how they got the the the medical insurance companies to put the mandates in because they put it in the contracts. That that's why I know it was in the contracts, and then the audit happened because everybody wanted to position themselves in the best light to get the business. Gail, can I ask you for clarification on something you said? Mhmm. Yeah. Am I understanding you to say that in the contracts, it said specifically what term when you were saying they had to have it in there to get the money? Were they was there a a in the contract, was it you have to have a positive PC? What were you referring to? No. No. No. No. I mean, the contracts that that that the companies were bidding for, the the government contracts that that everybody was bid that was out for bid, the TRICARE and the DOD stuff. That that had in the in those contracts, they had built in the the mandate to take the shot. Right? And and, that's why that's why you saw all these insurance companies bending over backwards to be the first 1 to put the mandate in before the government did. Right? Oh, okay. It it it was but but they at the same time, they were trying to, they you know, because they're gonna audit your books and things. They're gonna audit things, and a lot of claims are automated. They're they're electronic. Right? Mhmm. And so the insurance companies that were bidding for the business and including the 1 I worked for did a, an audit of the COVID cases. Because up till then, they they had so much money from the government. They were just, like, pay they were they were instructed to just, like, pay whatever. Right? It doesn't matter what's what comes through. If it's COVID, they're just gonna pay it because that's what they were told to do. Just pay it, and the government will cover it. We just have to pay it. I understood. Part on the arm. Yeah. No. What I didn't understand was are you talking about the insurance company had a contract with CMMS that they had to mandate shots to the employees in order to No. No. No. No. Get the most I mean, I'm trying to clarify what you're talking about on that, on the mandate part. No. I'm just I'm just for times for time reference for a time reference. Right? So they the the when when there's a bid, right, when you're bidding for the business and you're putting your your stuff together, so there was a clause you had to mandate the shot, and everybody was up in arms about that. But at this when you're bid when you're when you're putting in your when you're bidding for the business and you're trying to win the business, there's a there's questionnaires you have to fill out. There's there they look at how your you know, how are your claims being processed? How is all of that? 1 of the What what is the condition of your claims? And so so they so everybody went to go clean up their claims, right, to to be able to back up the the claims and the things that they paid paid out for when because they would come they're gonna come and audit before they give you the business. Right? Right. And so but but up until that point, it was just a free for all. Right? The the hospital didn't ever have to worry about a COVID claim getting denied. The Wild West. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It it was and the the the people who are getting contract, let's say, for instance, TRICARE, who would or let's say Blue Cross Blue Shield. Whatever. And they're getting a contract with with with CMMS, which is effectively the government. If they will mandate their employees to take the shot, that that's 1 thing they had to put in the contract is what you're saying in order to be eligible to potentially get the contract with the government. Or Yeah. You you yeah. You couldn't even yeah, you couldn't even you couldn't even it was part of the contract. Right? Like, you had to So, basically, they they forced the mandate by saying, well, we're not gonna give you the contract for the unless Yeah. But that wasn't my, yeah, that wasn't the point I was making about the billing, though. Like, you were trying to the billing. State yeah. When you when she was saying that, you know, they've they marked people as COVID that weren't COVID, it it it it's interesting because they could only produce Right. That 60 percent of proof And I that anybody even tested. So so so, basically That was a CMS thing too. You know? They said that they could they could they could treat them as if they were COVID. That was that was 1 of the regulations that if they they could treat them, they could be presumed to be COVID and treat them as such. That is Yeah. And that regulations. Right. And so so you don't even know, like, they just came up. You could I think it's I think it's very telling that they could only and even I mean, the tests don't the tests were faulty, but that they could that they could only produce such a I I mean, it's 60 per it's more than 50%, but it's still there's a there that's a huge amount of It sure is. That that you just got paid and without any proof that a test ever happened. And and this was these were acute care these were hospitals. Right? So Yeah. I mean, the the HHS regulations actually stated that they could treat on a presumption of of it being COVID in the case of a negative that they could do that, which which tells me that, you know, there you go. The the government who's paying is setting up the rules. So if that's the rule, then it's not fraud. I mean, that's just it's so sad that they can just arbitrarily set up the kill box like that, and that's what it is is a kill box. So, anyway, it's just a quick to that? Yeah. Kinda quickly, and then we gotta get to names. I think Yeah. To get to a lot of times. Paper trying to find a paper trail you after Hark, whether the the insurance company on its own initiative paid the hospitals and therefore got more insurance money from the government. In a case like that, what we would do as attorneys is sue everybody. You sue the government officials. You sue the government itself. You sue you sue the insurance company, and you sue the hospital, and you subpoena all the records. And it's not a FYI. You subpoena everyone. Depending on your complaint, you can subpoena records from every level, and that would set up give you the information you want. Yeah. I think that's a great I mean, I I I think that at some point has to happen because you need that information. Like, I, you know, I I even reported fraud to the to my insurance company because that's what we're told to do as far as ethics training. Right? If you suspect fraud, you, and and I there was fraud in in my case. I was, you know, I survived, and I I was billed for you know, it's $23,000 for tesilizumab that I I rejected and didn't get. But, but I you know, like, there was fraud, so I because I got my detailed billing and all my records and all that. They didn't wanna hear it because the when it came to COVID, they didn't want any reported fraud Mhmm. Because they would have to the government didn't wanna hear it. The insurance companies don't wanna hear it. I think that that in in suing everybody and letting, the lawyer sort it out, you know, was kinda like, there's there's so much hidden. Yeah. There's a lot of complicity there. Nobody wants to Yeah. Yeah. There there's a paper there's paper trail upon paper trail. It's just getting to it, and that I don't know. I would love to see, how we get to that freaking paper trail. But that's that's I just, you know, thought of that when you said COVID making every you know, making everybody COVID. I I I agree with you that I don't think they they were. But I do I wanna get to we wanna get to names. Right, Chelsea? Because otherwise say speaking of getting to it, people are waiting for the names. Yeah. I'm I'd like to introduce Sherry. But, Catherine, I'm so grateful for all of your time tonight and for coming on. Thank you so much. We really appreciate you and all the work that Freedom Council is doing. And in search of we appreciate you too. Let's get let's get to the names. Can you hear me, Gail? Yep. We can hear you. Okay. Just making sure before I start just rambling on. Just to remind everyone, the names that I'll read tonight are dated from January 11 through January 17, which would be next Friday. And they go back obviously to 2020. And I wanna apologize to any family members who are listening, and I mispronounced names. It's not my intention to do that, but in some cases, I'm just trying to do the best I can with my English pronunciation. Barbara James was killed on 01/11/2020. Her story was told by her son and daughter-in-law, Chris and Blaine Johnson. Vasquez Matataian was killed on 01/11/2021. His story was told by his daughter, Anna Van Hoek. Margaret Rebus was killed on 01/11/2021. Her story was told by her daughters, Trish and Doreen. David Williamson was killed on 01/11/2022. His story was told by his wife, Stephanie Williamson. Scott Keith was killed on 01/11/2022. His story was told by his wife, Lori Keith. Nicole Palma Nee Bedol was killed on 01/11/2022. Her story was told by her daughter, Helene Bedou Palma. Dara Darryl Carlson was killed on 01/11/2022. His story was told by his son, Jason Carson. Gary Phillips was killed on 01/11/2022. His story was told by his daughter, Lindsay Frangie. Rutherford Penrod was killed on 01/12/2022. His story was told by his daughter, Shannon Rhodes. Renolfo Nies was killed on 01/12/2022. His story was told by his daughter, Jane Nies. Brian Pickle was killed on 01/12/2022. His story was told by his sister, Carrie McKissick. Ron was killed on 01/13/2022. His story was told by his wife and daughter, Joe and Sandy. Anthony Mueller junior was killed on 01/13/2022. His story was told by his wife, Kaye Mueller. Tan Tanny Booth Vines was killed on 01/14/2022. Her story was told by her sister, Lainie Buthe. Danny Simmons was killed on 01/14/2021. His story was told by his wife, Cindy Simmons. Claire Hoffman was killed on 01/15/2022. His story was told by his wife, Deborah Hoffman. Malik Majub was killed on 01/15/2022. His story was told by his wife, Melvina Majub. David Hale was killed on 01/15/2022. His wife his story was told by his wife, Christina Hale. Brian Robbins was killed on 01/15/2022. His story was told by his wife, Stephanie Robbins. Mister Matos was killed on 01/15/2021. His story was told by his son, Jose Matos. Cheryl Coursey was killed on 01/16/2022. Her story was told by her husband, Keith Coursey. Sammy Hosch was killed on 01/16/2022. His story was told by his wife, Janice Hosch. Charles Shepherd was killed on 01/16/2022. His story was told by his wife, Marie Shepherd. Christopher Colossa was killed on 01/16/2022. His story was told by his wife, Dawn Gavers Colossa. Thomas Retseck was killed on 01/16/2022. His story was told by his daughter, Alana Retzick Colter. Ruth McGill was killed on 01/17/2022. Her story was told by her daughter, Christy Savage. James was killed on 01/17/2022. His story was told by his daughter, Gina. Connie Moore was killed on 01/17/2022. Her story was told by her daughter, Michelle Shadley. Adrian Horn was killed on 01/17/2021. His story was told by his mother, Heather Horn. The members of the former Feds Group Freedom Foundation and the COVID 19 Humanity Betrayal Memory Project want to extend our deepest sympathies to all of our families for these horrific crimes. And as a side note, that last young man was 21 years old. Yep. And he didn't even go in the I did the interview. He didn't even go in the hospital for COVID. He had a he had a mini stroke, and they don't even she said his mom doesn't even know if he truly passed a positive for COVID. But they gave him the protocol, and they killed him. Yep. And most of these a lot of these names were all from 2022, which was the end of the winter of death that the Biden administration sicked on The United States citizens by making sure that they had vaccinated as many people as they could, which led to vaccine injuries that were treated as COVID. Yeah. It led to shedding injuries that also did the same thing, and then then they made sure that the monoclonal antibodies were not available to particularly to red states, there is nothing that was not on purpose here. I'd like to share, a tweet that's pinned on justice for mom's profile, and it's also pinned in the next. And I encourage everyone to give that a retweet. She says, on 01/11/2021, my beautiful, kind, life of the party, loving mother was murdered by FDA, NIH, CDC mandate hospital protocols Mhmm. Just like thousands of other loved ones. She was isolated, overdosed, paralyzed, put in restraints, starved, and suffocated. And that's representative of the stories of hundreds of people that we've documented and thousands or millions more that are still out there who don't even know. And something that Chelsea says quite frequently that has been put into kind of a sterile not by Chelsea, but by the industry, a kind of a sterile description that they restrain or they sedate the patient because of exit seeking behaviors, which means they were trying to freaking escape their murderers. Let that sink in. This cuts me particularly deeply because, they did this to my my family member. They, they they put her on antipsychotics to control exit seeking behavior, and and then they killed her. And then they changed the dialogue to make it sound just as sterile as they can to excuse their brutality and their inhumanity. And then they let you take them to court, and they charge you back. And I can't wait for the day, if we ever get it, to sit in a senate or house hearing and remind every 1 of those assholes that we hired, that they paid for this, and they did not stop it even though they knew and they still know that it's been going on because this particular group has been out here pushing this out with everything they've had since at least early 20 22, if not before that. They know. They've actually been contacted by their constituents, so there's no arguments. It wasn't hidden. It's not a secret. And there's no excuse for this to still be going on today? Absolutely none. It goes on because now for everyone here who is sitting here listening to this, but they are not really involved in the hospital situation, all of the staff that is in the hospitals right now, they are all permanently retrained to chemically restrain every patient. They will hold down a patient, and they will make sure they get that swab because you will not enter that hospital no matter what your diagnosis might end up being without that COVID test. And then they will restrain you with drugs if you're coming in under an emergency circumstance. But if you're coming in and you're getting some kind of planned treatment or procedure, be prepared. Have your paperwork in order and have your POA available. You do not enter these hospitals unless you you understand. You are about to go to war. Yep. And and, you know, when have your POA papers, but make sure your pay POA your POA has a backbone. Don't pick the weakest link in your family because you pick the weakest link in your family, you're dead. You're dead. Yep. And I will tell you this too. There is churning pending case out there. I can't remember the law firm, but, there's, lots of reported cases of people being sedated and injected with the COVID vaccines while they're unconscious. Yep. So I'm telling you, hospitals are seriously dangerous. The people who remain there are the ones who will do exactly what they're told because the people who objected got fired and pushed out. So hospice you don't wanna go there. You want to be healthy. You want to stay away from hospitals. Yep. And the other thing I would like someone to explain to me is when the restraint laws change. Yeah. Because The restraint laws there's always been restraint law. You could not chemically or physically restrain anyone. And if you did, there were strict guidelines. And I want I have never seen where that changed. So I don't know why they got away with it so badly. That my husband always asked that as a nurse too, like, because there's there's rules around restraints. There there's things that you have to do before you put somebody in any type of physical or chemical restraint. There's things that you have to have to to, you know, to mitigate. There's things that you have to do during. There's things that you have to do after. There's things that you have to check on them every 15 minutes. You have to do all of these things to be legally compliant with the rules around restraints, and none of it was done. He's looked through lots of medical records. When you have people who are in restraints and they're not checked for, you know, over a day, it's crazy. Yep. That that crap's criminal. And, like, I mean And that, Gail, the other thing is is that and I in case after case after case, you've read it, I've seen it where I've looked they're looking through a glass. Yeah. They're not even near the patient so that they're right there. They've already they broke the law right there. I I can say I can tell you the entire time I was in the hospital, the 12 days I was in the hospital, not 1 doctor the only time a doctor touched me was that first day when doctor Quach asked me if I was vaccinated. And when I said no, he patted me on the hand and said, I'm sorry, missus Seiler. You're gonna die. That's the only time a doctor touched me. When my husband stormed the ICU to get me out, he even told the doctor, you nobody's even asked he asked me. He said that has any doctor listened to your lungs? I said no. And he he he was like, those doctors would even come near me. And he was like, I don't even see a stethoscope on you. How you he like, it was just like, it's insane. And I've heard The other thing too is, you know, even when we when we were when it was considered, like, a restraint let's say a patient's having a major seizure. Okay? You didn't, number 1, and and I've had a seizure and they did tie me down and it did not go well for them. But what I'm saying is you never did that. There was a way you you patted the bed. We had you know what I mean? We had things that Yep. You did so many other things. Never did we do this. It just it doesn't make it's like every rule fell out the window. And why why is that not something right there that people can go on? I don't get it. I don't either. I I don't either. And I I quite honestly, I don't really even understand all the and why other than the fact that so much tort reform's been and so we've let we've let laws get out of out of control in the country and our courts get out of control, but I I don't even understand why people are not any other time. If COVID had never happened and these things happened in the hospitals, people would be being purp walked out of the freaking hospitals. Like, you'd see nurses, doctors, administrators being arrested for some of the acts that and some of the condition of the patients, some of the ways that they they treated patients that in any other time that would happen, charges would be filed. I you know, like, every You know what my other favorite 1 is, Gail? 2 is how many of these patients? Oh, mind you, I was an oncology hospice nurse most of my career. I did everything, but most of it was that. But never did we ever I've never, in my whole career, had been our team anybody in a hospital. And how many of these patients, my husband included, were Narcan? Yep. Yeah. They were routinely overdosing them with respiratory suppressants, and they didn't care. And so then they would Narcan them if they hadn't got all the bed dates bed days But that makes absolutely no freaking common sense of a hospital. None. 0. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Yep. If you get paid for the Narcan, you know, hey. You get paid for the respiratory depressants, then you get paid for the Narcan once you overdose them. And if you keep the bed in there for all the bed days, you keep them in there just enough to get paid, then, you know, then you can overdose them again like I did mine. My question is what happened to medical error? What happened to when you made a medical error, you had to report it? You had to report it. Right? I I think a lot of the Narcan use if you look at the records too is, like so, like, you know, like, fentanyl has its place in the medical field, like, long surgeries and, you know, being administered by a, you know, anesthesiologist. Right. They they they they But a nurse only use. Yeah. But when it's when it's at the bedside, that's that's where you you do see a lot of, you know, they don't they don't even know these people that were were giving fentanyl to patients, they this isn't something that you would normally give at the bedside. Absolutely not. I've never seen that done. Especially IV Yeah. Amount. Yeah. They And I don't think they knew what they were I mean, I know that those nurses couldn't have known, and then they overdose them. They use the oh, shit. I gotta use the Narcan because I gave them this and that. And it's a nasty cycle. You know? And the the Yep. And they're getting paid for that cycle. It's criminal. Yeah. It's absolutely criminal what what what was done to you guys. And y'all y'all got y'all got me fired up, which is bad because I'm about to hop off of here. But, No. I'm near as fired up as we are, Matt. I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't care. As as as a man, it it it hurt it hurts me to hear your stories and to hear I I wish I could help you more than I could more than I am, honestly. But, you know Well those are just what it is. That means the world to us to hear you say that. It really does. Because nobody can go back and fix it, but knowing that someone actually cares and wants to is bigger than you can know, and I thank you for it. Thank y'all. I've I've only known you guys for a few for 3 months. It'll be 3 months this month. And, and y'all are just y'all are inspirations to me. The fact that you all keep going and despite your grief, despite everything you feel, I I pray that whenever tragedy strikes my home or something hits close to home, I pray that I'm gonna do the same thing because the if the stake you know? It's it's like I told Nooney the other night, If the stakes are what we think they are, then we really don't have the luxury of giving up. We we don't we don't have the luxury of just digging in our heels, and we we have to keep going. We we have to we have to press on together. We have to link arms. We have to we have to support each other. We have to pray for each other. We have to lift each other up. We can't, we we can't just we can't not do this. We can't tap out. Yeah. You can, yeah, you can go back as Gail referenced earlier. Yeah. You, yeah, you can go back and tend to your wounds or whatever, but you gotta get back in the fight. And I I can't I can't offer you guys much, but what I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna do what I can for y'all. And, no no matter how how big or how little it is, but just I I I think it it it hurt it hurt it it both hurts me. It hurts it hurts my heart. And to to hear to hear the because you can almost hear the pain in Sherry's voice when she reads the names. And and it's it's just I say this every time because the feeling never it's it's new every time. It it comes back to me how the the hurt the hurt off. I'm and I'm not a very empathetic person. Okay? It takes a and I'm not a crier either. It takes a lot to make me cry. But it's it's it's just it it it never gets old. And but at the same time, it it it meant hearing these names, actually being able to put names, especially especially when it's someone I've met and talked to and interacted with either on the calls or here. It makes me wanna keep going and wanna keep doing what I do, no matter how big or small it is. But, I'm I'm gonna get off of here, guys. I love y'all. Thank you, Matt. We appreciate your time and, and all you do. Heidi, I'm I'm I'm really grateful for your patience. I know you wanted to say a few words about Lupe. Yes. Thank you. So in honor of my best friend, Lupe Espinosa, who was killed in Clovis, California on 09/28/2021, She fought for her life for 57 days. She was given the toxic drug remdesivir, varsenodib, midazolam, high levels of morphine that ultimate and the remdesivir which ultimately took her life. She was denied therapeutics known to heal such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. She upon arrival, she was PCR tested. She was positive. They isolated her. They drugged her. And it's been 3 years now. She was only 48 years old. She was older than me by 6 months. I'm now 51, and there still has been no accountability and no justice. And I just pray with this, new administration coming in and with Kennedy, you know, heading up HHS. I pray that this dark time in our US history is brought to light, and it stops, and it never happens again. And, Heidi, tell Mateo Mateo is the so y'all that when I was doing all fireballs and, you know, wrecking balls, and all the kind of balls, it was, Mateo, Lupe's son, is 1 of them that now has debt. He has to pay the doctor's bills Yes. Or the doctor's lawyer fee. He has to pay because of the attempt to sue and it get the case getting dismissed. And he so he now now he has to pay his mother's killer's money. Yep. Yep. So where yeah. Where's the justice of that? He was 16 years old, and he had a front row seat. The hospital made sure of it for his mother's murder, and now he owes money. How how killers. Is in that. Yeah. There there are no words. None. It's it's it's heartbreaking to say the least. Heartbreaking. Yep. Hi, Dan. So so broken over that. I mean, I lost my husband, but a 16 year old child all I can say is I pray that those people because they are gonna get some justice that they wish they never got in the next life. I mean, I would I would love it if every single if every single victim every single victim who tried to sue a hospital and ended up with a legal ended up with, having to pay the killers of their loved ones would, contact me so we can, start working with some of these podcasts and sending, some kind of message out to get these people on. Because I I don't know what is more outrageous. I I just don't I don't know how and I'm not really sure how to explain to I've been trying to explain to people for 10 freaking years now how dangerous tort reform is, how it's a how much of a double sword it is. And if this doesn't illustrate the problems with these, lawsuit reform packs and all this crap lawsuit lawsuit reform legislation. I don't know what does. You you you they always sell it. Well, you don't want frivolous lawsuits, right raising up prices and all this crap. They've been it's always been it's always been a Trojan horse to to make sure that We The People could not get accountability or justice in that we did not have access to the to the legal system in an easy way. It's always been about that. And it was a poison pill when it started, and it and it it has proved out during COVID. Catherine, you got your hand up. I think you have your hand up. Yeah. I mean, I I was going to, and this conversation moved on from there. Oh, okay. We No. No. It but it's you guys are definitely not forgotten even though, you know, we're we're not on the spaces particularly frequently. I mean, this, especially the hospital protocols is constantly, being talked about and how to address it and how to bring it to light because that really is fundamentally what needs to happen. Is that people need to be held accountable for it. People need to understand what's going on. Like I said before, I mean, I was I'm not I'm not being shy. I mean, I'm I am quite literally going to law school over this stuff. And, you know, I start I just start up conversations with people and just I think it was last yeah. It was just a week ago. You know, I start a conversation with this woman not knowing at all, how I'm going to be received at all. And it turns out she starts just getting excited about it because she's just like she's been holding it in all this time about her her father, being being killed in a in a nursing home situation. Almost the same kind of thing where this, you know, he had gotten 3 shots by that point and then got quote unquote COVID listed on his death certificate. And they talked to him about talked to her about, giving him morphine and she said no absolutely not. And then she's pretty convinced that, yes, indeed, they did. I mean, this is not just in the hospitals. It's everywhere. It's all the time. And a lot of people don't they have feelings that it might have happened, but they don't know how to express it. And so what you guys are doing is so incredibly important, and it really does drive a lot of stuff out in in the real world too. And and what you're doing here is not for nothing. I mean, and it's it is not gonna be forgotten or or or I mean, it's it's just not. So even if you don't hear from us all the time, things are happening. We're trying to figure it out, figure out how we can get that going. So thanks. Yeah. We know you are. I I mean, I get a little bit passionate, but I'm more mad I'm not the even you know, the lawyers can only do what they can do within the system that exists. And we have it's a fight from all angle folks. Like like, if we if we don't want laws or regulations or things being put in place that block us from having access to the courts or being able to sue or being able to get damages, then we have to stand up against those, and we we have to, like, hound the crap out of our legislators. And we have to be louder than the than the lobbyists that do want those, laws put in place because they're all they'll they're so bought and paid for. You know? I you've heard me talk about it in Texas. It's the Texan it's Dick Weekly's money. He throws it around Texans for lawsuit reform. He owns if you look at every politician's, finance report when they he he I will not vote for anybody who takes Dick Weekley's, money. And I have heard many of a rep many of Republicans say, I would take money from Satan and then use it against it if I have to, and it's so BS because they they will always be bought and paid for. It's just a bunch of crap. So I go on a tear during election season when I will put out sign I will pay for signs to be made to to point out which politicians take take Texas Texans for lawsuit reform money and just like I am just, like, the worst. So we have to do our part too and get rid of these stand up against these horrendous the the legislation and the, you know, the rules, and then we gotta you gotta we gotta pay better attention to who we vote for for judge. Nobody ever researches most of the judges don't even run a nobody opposes them. The big law firms, they pick the judges. You know? You know what, Gail? It's pie in the sky. It'll never happen. But wouldn't it be wonderful if if the lobbying industry was just made illegal? You can't you can't give money to politicians at all. Wouldn't that just be beautiful? Yeah. It would be. I mean, yeah. Wouldn't it be? And and I've, like yeah. It would be. And it'll never happen because the It'll never happen. The people who make the laws to outlaw that benefit directly from that. So Yeah. I mean It'll never happen. Even like like, you you you have to look at look at your judge elections. Right? Like, we've tried to pass legislation to stop big law firms from basically selecting the judges. Right? So, like, you don't get to be the best at some the best at drunk driving cases or the best by not paying your way. When you see these these big law firms that puts they sink so much money into a judge's race. And I I I'm always like and and you you can't get anyone to run against the judge because everybody's afraid. We actually had, we actually there was a race where, the we found somebody to run against this corrupt judge that we he's still he's still a corrupt judge, but we found somebody to run against him, a lawyer that said he he said he'd think about it, and he went and he talked to the judge. And he said, I'm thinking of throwing my hat in the ring. And, the judge told him, if you run against me, I will ruin your law career. I will ruin your your your law practice. You will never he said you will never win another case in my courtroom. That's a corrupt judge. And he's still a corrupt judge, and he did ruin the guy's the guy went back into corporate law because he did ruin his law practice. He he did he did destroy him. But when to my credit to my friend who's the the lawyer, he said when he heard that, he knew he had to throw his his hat in the ring even if it destroyed him. But that's what's that's what you have, and he's a Republican. Yeah. That's that's exactly why my son, who has his JD, isn't practicing. He doesn't want to deal with that. Because, generally, you have people who want to use their law degrees for good and who are lawyers Mhmm. And you have those that don't. And that's and but that's like that in every profession, sadly. It is. And and where you see the separation is people who who want money and power and prestige tend to be corrupted, and people who are there to actually serve others and use their gifts and talents aren't on that side. And it's just really sad, but that's what it comes down to. Do you care about your fellow human beings, or do you care to use your fellow human beings for for your own personal gain? That's the truth. But if we don't if we don't have a or if we don't clean up our our courts and they've been dirty for let me tell you. Decades. Decades. How do you how do you think Tom Fenton started, and why he started? Been decade. I remember when when his organization, you could call on them to just send a watcher, you know, just somebody to watch a judge. You know, that was that was being way back then, but it it if we don't clean it up, We're in big we're in bigger trouble with our courts than we are with our congressmen. Well, I mean yeah. Because you can't you can't fix if there's no consequences and no, you know, accountability, you can't change anything inside the system. That's the problem. You know? Right. Exactly. And and then what happens is it's so corrupt, and then and then the the lawyers just become so used to the way it works that they start they start using language like, oh, this is just customary and usual. This is just the way it works down here. Hey. You know what? The Did you hear that? Customary and usual? Kinda like the standard of care. It's not Yeah. It's not about whether the standard of care is appropriate. It's about the fact that that's the standard. They set the standard. They follow the standard, and it doesn't matter if it's harmful or not because the government and the payers got what they paid for. The standard of care that they bought and structured and made that way. It's a kill box. Yep. I I mean and and then every once in a while, you have this brave attorney that goes in and shakes up a courtroom and does everything that's not he, you know, refuses to accept customary and usual. And and it that you're kinda seeing that with, you know, Matthew Tyson and some of the stuff, like, in some of the stuff in Scott Share's case. Like, you know, Scott Share can afford to thank god he can afford to pay for it. Like, thank god he can, you know, like, because Literally. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's going to like, he he win or lose, he's gonna it's gonna be a fight to the death. But then I think, like, Christina as well, like, she she has been her and Matthew have been been, you know, fighting it to the death. Right? Yep. And and it she's taking a huge risk, and we all need to be praying. You may not know Christina, but her the decisions we need to be praying that this woman wins out in California against the giant Kaiser. We need to pray that she wins. I think I am very hopeful. I am very hopeful that she will, and we need to be praying every day. I don't if you can fast for her, if you can give her something, sacrifice something, and pray that she wins. Whether you know her or not, Christina Baroneys, we need her to win. And and it and she is not she is 1 of the most selfless women. I I know she she's fighting this for all the freaking right reasons. Yep. She has 5 5 sons, I believe. And, you can see 1 daughter. And 1 daughter. And you could just see that she's she's fighting for all the right reasons. So, yeah, we do need to pray for her. We need to, you know, definitely do anything you can to help because anybody who wins 1 of these cases, we all win. If if we can win, you know, Sharra, Briones, anybody else, it it it's a win for the rest of us because it sets a it sets a precedent. It sets a precedent, and it gets truth out there. And it it makes ripples, and that's what we need. Absolutely. I just want to agree with all of that. I think Christina is, she's 1 of the victims who's been in this, with us almost from from the start. Yep. And, and I I adore her, and I I really I just really hope really hope I'm just so grateful for this or for this group for each and everyone because, we have learned to love and support each other no matter what, and I just wouldn't be here without y'all. So thank you. Thanks, Deborah. Thanks, Chelsea. I I mean well, I think this is a great place to wrap up, you know, not just because it's, you know, almost 01:30 in the morning, but it's just it's a good note to end on. It is. I agree. And, yeah. And, you know, while I love spending time with y'all, Sometimes even good things must come to an end. No. I'm just kidding. We we sometimes we gotta do it. So I don't know if John has been closing. Miriam? Yeah. I was just gonna say if, if people wish the space were going on, I think Ben Marble is hosting, a stop the shot space. You can just hop over there and, listen in because they've they've always got a good good conversation going. So yeah. And he's doing those daily now. Right? So Mhmm. Yes. He is. He is. Yep. And, yeah, he's a fearless fearless warrior there too. You don't have to wonder about how he feels or what he thinks, and he's been after the COVID agenda and the perps the perpetrators, the, since the beginning. So yeah. Yeah. So do you mind if, take us all out in prayer, and we lift Christina Yeah. Up in prayer. And, Thank you so much, Deborah. Yeah. So Deborah wants to take us out in prayer. Deborah, you wanna do it, or you want me to we could just do just we could do it in our father. That's the perfect prayer, and everybody knows it. What do you think? Absolutely. Let's just give her give her an our father, our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen. Lord, please protect and give Christina peace and, help everyone endure what they need to endure, and we pray for justice to be served in that in that case. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Gail. You're welcome. Anytime. Alright. Bye. Thank you so much, Gail and and Miriam, for cohosting. There are lots of good links to Miriam's substack up in the nest and in the purple pill. I encourage everyone to check those out. Go to takeastandmerch.net Yeah. To to find some awesome medical freedom merchandise, including former feds and CHBMP items. More coming soon. Yep. Join our task force at ffctf.org. Document your story@betrayalproject.org. We've got so much going on this year, and, we're gonna be reaching out and, firing up those task force meetings again soon. And we hope to see everyone there. Thank you so much everybody for listening and for coming and for sharing those stories. We really appreciate it, and we appreciate all you do. Alright. Any final words? No. Thanks thanks a lot. Thanks, everyone. We'll see you next Saturday or before that if we do a special spaces. You never know. Just, you know, if you see us pop up, join us. Yep. If you go to our profile and click the little notifications bell, you'll get a notification whenever we pop this out and and watch for those because we're gonna start trying to do more and more of these. Alright. Later. Bye. Bye y'all. Bye, everyone. Good night, everyone.

Space Audio: